What a bigot; judging an entire class of people to be evil.
In other news -- monks are some of the purest and noblest people on earth. I personally know an entire monastery of Bendictines. How many do you know?
@PapalFist Sorry, but wether they are nice or not, they are part of the Catholic Church. Considering the Papal Inquisition, the Spanish Inquisition, the Portugese Inquisition, the Mideval Inquisition..... I don't know. Some monks certainly went to Hell. The Dominican order were trained as Inquisitors including torture and death. They might well be some place toasty warm even today.
Lollipopfop, do you even know whose authority it was to establish Inquisitions? The *secular* head of state's. Only a temporal authority could ask such a thing of the Pope. The Pope would then allow religious brothers to investigate the presumed adherents to heresy, which was considered a danger to both the State and the Church, man's body and soul (many countries outlaw cults and polygamy, don't they?) and while some monks oversaw torture and execution, they didn't participate.
That much is is just plain fact. Since the Church had no authority in any country *ever* to execute men or women. If someone was found guilty of heresy, they were by definition 'relaxed into the secular arm.' Now, does this mean that Churchmen weren't responsible for the executions? No, undoubtedly these were abuses, but it does make it painfully obvious that the State desired the removal of heretics and dissidents from the commonwealth. Even if the Church was as corrupt as you wish to say...
...none of the Inquisitions could have *been* without being initiated by the secular powers. That's history. It is also plain from reading the annals of those ages that most of the Cardinals and primates of the countries mentioned were against the Inquisitions, and the Popes who sanctioned them quickly became thorns in the sides of the monarchs (who looked to the Inquisitions to restore political stability), in their complaints that the permission given for these trials was being abused.
I really love your Cadfael videos and only wish you would make more!!! Trobar de Morte is wonderful (also because they are Spanish, as my exams are in Spanish and about Spanish culture). Could you maybe only indicate from which CD you took the song? Thanks a lot!
thanks a lot for a wonderful music video!!! The song really fits in with the atmosphere it creates and the lyrics have a soothing quality - at least for me!!! I used to watch it in between preparations for my final exams at uni (friday is the last).
Thanks so much for your post! I'm glad you liked the vid. I also find Trobar De Morte very soothing. If you like them, I'd also suggest checking out the Mediaeval Baebes. Their albums have a bit more variety, but their voices are just as hauntingly beautiful. I'm actually not sure what cd I got this song from; I got these tracks from a friend! Thanks again though, and I'll look into making another video as soon as school starts winding down!
Nice work! :)
rosapurpurea 1 year ago 3
Thats Christian Slater in "The Name of the Rose" its not from Cadfael. Talk about monks who went to Hell.
lollipopfop 1 year ago 2
The good and worthy are going to Heavan.
And the Monks are going to hell.
QueenieLizzie 2 years ago
What a bigot; judging an entire class of people to be evil.
In other news -- monks are some of the purest and noblest people on earth. I personally know an entire monastery of Bendictines. How many do you know?
PapalFist 2 years ago 18
@PapalFist Sorry, but wether they are nice or not, they are part of the Catholic Church. Considering the Papal Inquisition, the Spanish Inquisition, the Portugese Inquisition, the Mideval Inquisition..... I don't know. Some monks certainly went to Hell. The Dominican order were trained as Inquisitors including torture and death. They might well be some place toasty warm even today.
lollipopfop 1 year ago
Lollipopfop, do you even know whose authority it was to establish Inquisitions? The *secular* head of state's. Only a temporal authority could ask such a thing of the Pope. The Pope would then allow religious brothers to investigate the presumed adherents to heresy, which was considered a danger to both the State and the Church, man's body and soul (many countries outlaw cults and polygamy, don't they?) and while some monks oversaw torture and execution, they didn't participate.
Jacobitess 1 year ago 3
That much is is just plain fact. Since the Church had no authority in any country *ever* to execute men or women. If someone was found guilty of heresy, they were by definition 'relaxed into the secular arm.' Now, does this mean that Churchmen weren't responsible for the executions? No, undoubtedly these were abuses, but it does make it painfully obvious that the State desired the removal of heretics and dissidents from the commonwealth. Even if the Church was as corrupt as you wish to say...
Jacobitess 1 year ago 3
...none of the Inquisitions could have *been* without being initiated by the secular powers. That's history. It is also plain from reading the annals of those ages that most of the Cardinals and primates of the countries mentioned were against the Inquisitions, and the Popes who sanctioned them quickly became thorns in the sides of the monarchs (who looked to the Inquisitions to restore political stability), in their complaints that the permission given for these trials was being abused.
Jacobitess 1 year ago 3
Life before Henry VIII.
QueenieLizzie 2 years ago 2
Whats the song called plz?
ADyingFaith 2 years ago 42
Beautiful, thank you so much!
Jacobitess 4 years ago 51
The comments should be the other way round, sorry!
Greenleafsdaughter 4 years ago 49
I really love your Cadfael videos and only wish you would make more!!! Trobar de Morte is wonderful (also because they are Spanish, as my exams are in Spanish and about Spanish culture). Could you maybe only indicate from which CD you took the song? Thanks a lot!
Best wishes,
Greenie
Greenleafsdaughter 4 years ago 53
Hi RectaPete,
thanks a lot for a wonderful music video!!! The song really fits in with the atmosphere it creates and the lyrics have a soothing quality - at least for me!!! I used to watch it in between preparations for my final exams at uni (friday is the last).
Greenleafsdaughter 4 years ago 53
Thanks so much for your post! I'm glad you liked the vid. I also find Trobar De Morte very soothing. If you like them, I'd also suggest checking out the Mediaeval Baebes. Their albums have a bit more variety, but their voices are just as hauntingly beautiful. I'm actually not sure what cd I got this song from; I got these tracks from a friend! Thanks again though, and I'll look into making another video as soon as school starts winding down!
RectaPete 4 years ago 4
@Greenleafsdaughter
Henry VIII and Cromwell dissolved the monteries, Shrewsburys
monterys was the weakest links in chain.
QueenieLizzie 1 year ago