They both came hard...But let's Break it down. Jay-z Forced Joe's hand when he said, ya'll rhyme words just to match, and adjust the facts.
Joe said: I'm nowitzki (years later its proven he was soft and joe got slapped up by Rae's man, he too was soft)
Joe said: "toys pop and spit, I'm not from around these parts, Stojakavich"....Joe was never in the streets like that, so he's putting words just to match.
As far as facts Jay got em. As far as rap it depends on who you like. Good battle though
@ChimaTheKilla I wouldn't have replied if you hadn't told me not to. And not to worry, I don't argue with people about Jay-Z. And you suck your moms clit. Go figure. Now don't respond back ok?
@zuneloader oooo I just found out something but don't cry ok I found out that if you didn't say anything to my first comment this crap wouldn't be happening. Ooo I get you because I don't have the same opinion I should kill myself or because I feel like Jay-Z did horrible on this I should kill myself. You can reply if you want but you know just as well as I do that this crap is crap and dam I wrote a paragraph can you read all that
jay ripped it too bad he passed on this song just blaze had originally made it for him but he passed on the beat so just blaze gave it to joe budden!!!
@dponly1 rofl trust i respect jay and what he has done, and is still doing.. but his personality is 0.... and he is not the same... he was the nicest on Reasonable Doubt then corporate america got to him
Most of that Ether track is flawed cuz most of that stuff Nas talks about is stuff he got from Jaz-O who is Jay-Z's former friend so as far as that is concerned I lost a lot of respect for that track.....what do you mean Super Ugly isn't about Nas....Jay said this is not beef this is rap so basically both of them are just rapping not truly beefing.....I think Nas is a great artist but that Ether track is a little to overrated for its own good
What up Officer sean carter. You forgot you was in the street before success. the past can come back to haunt you. how you got hundred of millions and hatin.
Almost all rappers used the word nigga and flow. Those are very common words in the rap game dumbass, vehicular homicide isnt. GZA is a far greater emcee than Jay-z. Jay also bites so much of biggies rhymes, hes just a biter.
It's kinda sad what Jay-Z did to Joe Budden at the time. I know how much Jay says he loves his mom, but I think he'd kill her if it helped his career.
But the thing that gets me is how all of Jay's old "friends" and labelmates all seem to hate him. Beanie Sigel just told a radio show that State Property guys were making $1250 a show. That's not bad money, but it's nothing compared to what a hip-hop act on a major label should do. Also keep in mind that they only tour for a little part of the year. They're not making money every day.
that's the downside of having a crew or group that size. it's pro-rated. each individual can't make what one sole artist would make a show that don't even make sense. state property was like 8-10 dudes. multiply 1250 x 10 $12,500 a show which prob sounds fair to you.
and em... but ppl say it isnt biting, they say its showin respect... my opinion is that he wants to make a hit like the hit he copped that steeze from. it's just easy to do that, so thats what he does. and its wack
I knew he bit off Biggie which made me lose a bunch of respect. Which line on this did he bite off GZA and what GZA song is it on. Jay is still a great rapper (old albums). Peace.
At :56 when he says vehicular and homicide. He didnt take a whole line from him, but GZA uses the same words in "Duel of the Iron Mic". Just listen to that song and you will understand what im talking about.
I agree. I'm only 17 yrs old and have only been listening to hip-hop for 3 years, but Nas is my favorite rapper and I think has been ever since I heard Illmatic.
you said nas is nasty but nit best. did you mean he's not the best rapper. i never said he was the best, but I did say he is my favorite rapper. who's your favorite rapper? and you said listen to more tracks, whose tracks are you saying I should listen to?
Ya the best to ever do it. Its obvious. He has like 5 really good albums and some of his lines are unbelievable. And dont say biggie is the best. He was really good but more of a punchline rapper.
In a rap song yep. The majority of the mainstream rappers that have loads of money basically bit off the good rappers that don't get all the attention. So ya suck on that bitch.
@GhostDeini09 well if your stupid ass feel that way u gotta find out who is the first person to ever say the word "nigga" or "flow" in a rap. Every rapper is a biter because they say the word "nigga" and "flow"! Right?
Thats weird because im 17 also and been listening to hip-hop for about 3 years also. But ya illmatic is the best hip-hop album ever made. NaS shits on alot of other rappers.
Thats cool your youtube profile says your 23 though. Whatever. Do alot of people listen to real hip-hop at your school, because nobody really does at my school. I've got in a bunch of stupid arguments with people, because they say Wayne is better than my favorite rappers like Nas and Lupe. One guy told me he doesn't like rappers with deep voices. WTF. I play him Gangstarr's mass appeal and he said its boring. WTF, I don't get it? Peace.
Nah the majority of kids at my school dont know real hip-hop. They think wayne is the best which he is definitely not and not even close. Hes a studio gangster and his whole style is wack as hell. Wayne will never NEVER reach NaS's level, he shits on wayne. Mass Appeal is a good song and who ever said it isnt is stupid as fuck.
the whole so. which is why jay-z references it so much, on top of that getting "ethered" is feared in hiphop. nobody is scared of getting "superugly" which jayz apologized for
You can't pick just one bar in Ether. There are so many. Half of the Super Ugly song isn't even about Nas. He's just rhyming words and the other half all he talks about is Nas' baby moms. Ether addresses a number of funny shit about Jay.
Jay-Z fans always try to flip things around. You know damn well there is no war. It was a rap battle and Nas won it, point blank period. Stop trying to bring irrelevant non-rap shit into a lyrical rap battle.
Ok well he's still the best alive no doubt about it. He already killed jay-z with ether.The only rappers that could compete with him is a few Wu members.
2 people should kill themselves.
selenafedrick 1 year ago
im not a big jay fan, but this is one of the few things from jay i like
90mv 1 year ago
Whos the nicest life or lifeless
on the mic devices and i dont write this
Classic Hov Lyricism
gio1764 1 year ago
They both came hard...But let's Break it down. Jay-z Forced Joe's hand when he said, ya'll rhyme words just to match, and adjust the facts.
Joe said: I'm nowitzki (years later its proven he was soft and joe got slapped up by Rae's man, he too was soft)
Joe said: "toys pop and spit, I'm not from around these parts, Stojakavich"....Joe was never in the streets like that, so he's putting words just to match.
As far as facts Jay got em. As far as rap it depends on who you like. Good battle though
catonic 1 year ago
oooo I like Joe Budden a lot but Jay Z really didn't kill this beat wow
ChimaTheKilla 1 year ago
@ChimaTheKilla kill yourself
zuneloader 1 year ago
@zuneloader this sucks and you suck jay z's ball and don't reply youtube beef is as retard as you taste in rappers
ChimaTheKilla 1 year ago
@ChimaTheKilla I wouldn't have replied if you hadn't told me not to. And not to worry, I don't argue with people about Jay-Z. And you suck your moms clit. Go figure. Now don't respond back ok?
zuneloader 1 year ago
@zuneloader oooo I just found out something but don't cry ok I found out that if you didn't say anything to my first comment this crap wouldn't be happening. Ooo I get you because I don't have the same opinion I should kill myself or because I feel like Jay-Z did horrible on this I should kill myself. You can reply if you want but you know just as well as I do that this crap is crap and dam I wrote a paragraph can you read all that
ChimaTheKilla 1 year ago
You aint no athlete, you Shawn Bradley..HHAHAHAAHAH
kobdog360 1 year ago
jay ripped it too bad he passed on this song just blaze had originally made it for him but he passed on the beat so just blaze gave it to joe budden!!!
jayb1411 1 year ago
jigga went off!!. fuck anyone who hates on jay. but he do bite alot but not as much as wayne
RIPhiphop00sly 1 year ago
the nicest mike devices line was the best in the song, nd better than of notorious PIGs gay lines jigga GOAT
HipHopIsDeadMohsin 1 year ago
@HipHopIsDeadMohsin you snapped with your life you fagget. never call BIG a pig. without him paving the way you wouldnt have jay z dick to suck on
Sportingista18 1 year ago
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Nas
jay z
reneperez50 1 year ago
jay-z didnt wanna do a remix with buddens... but then dropped a freestyle to the beat.. bitchmade hova
ThisIsDynamic 1 year ago
@ThisIsDynamic bitchmade hova?........ its always a dickhead on here i guess, don't you agree? lol
dponly1 1 year ago
@dponly1 rofl trust i respect jay and what he has done, and is still doing.. but his personality is 0.... and he is not the same... he was the nicest on Reasonable Doubt then corporate america got to him
loaerl 1 year ago
Most of that Ether track is flawed cuz most of that stuff Nas talks about is stuff he got from Jaz-O who is Jay-Z's former friend so as far as that is concerned I lost a lot of respect for that track.....what do you mean Super Ugly isn't about Nas....Jay said this is not beef this is rap so basically both of them are just rapping not truly beefing.....I think Nas is a great artist but that Ether track is a little to overrated for its own good
datboykidkraze 1 year ago
@datboykidkraze Nas murdered Jay on Ether. End off
BlueMagicVaults 1 year ago
@BlueMagicVaults Ether was a bunch of childish insults and bullshit.
zuneloader 1 year ago
Who's the nicest? Life or lifeless, on these mic devices? And I don't write this!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn! Jay-z Is the G.O.A.T face it haters!!!!!!!!
bettaman11 1 year ago
u aint no ahtlete u shawn bradely hahaha damnnn nigga what?????
queens4life 2 years ago
What up Officer sean carter. You forgot you was in the street before success. the past can come back to haunt you. how you got hundred of millions and hatin.
falodun 2 years ago
@akl3g EXACTLY!!!!
songassassin 2 years ago
Almost all rappers used the word nigga and flow. Those are very common words in the rap game dumbass, vehicular homicide isnt. GZA is a far greater emcee than Jay-z. Jay also bites so much of biggies rhymes, hes just a biter.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
@GhostDeini09 Maybe its not common to u stupid people! Oh well, no big deal.
songassassin 2 years ago
wayne is a fad/
jay is a lifestyle
rasco27 2 years ago
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FastMoney1x 2 years ago
It's kinda sad what Jay-Z did to Joe Budden at the time. I know how much Jay says he loves his mom, but I think he'd kill her if it helped his career.
shogunofyellow 2 years ago
shut up you dumb fuck.
hiphopsavior101 2 years ago
You mad?
shogunofyellow 2 years ago
nope.
hiphopsavior101 2 years ago
then move along
shogunofyellow 2 years ago
For some reason ppl think they know the lives of celebs
If you didn't witness him steppin' on toes than take him for what he is on the surface.
yungenfant 2 years ago 2
But the thing that gets me is how all of Jay's old "friends" and labelmates all seem to hate him. Beanie Sigel just told a radio show that State Property guys were making $1250 a show. That's not bad money, but it's nothing compared to what a hip-hop act on a major label should do. Also keep in mind that they only tour for a little part of the year. They're not making money every day.
shogunofyellow 2 years ago
that's the downside of having a crew or group that size. it's pro-rated. each individual can't make what one sole artist would make a show that don't even make sense. state property was like 8-10 dudes. multiply 1250 x 10 $12,500 a show which prob sounds fair to you.
warbucks82 2 years ago
Considering this song was aimed at Joe Budden and not Nas the below argument about Nas and Jay is irrelevant.
robbiemo10 2 years ago
HOV'S DA BEST EVER!!!!
jlocsta606 2 years ago 2
i aint talkin to nobody in particular my flo is just vehicular
callmejayz 2 years ago
Jay's a biter he bit off GZA and biggie.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
and em... but ppl say it isnt biting, they say its showin respect... my opinion is that he wants to make a hit like the hit he copped that steeze from. it's just easy to do that, so thats what he does. and its wack
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boozaaa 2 years ago
I knew he bit off Biggie which made me lose a bunch of respect. Which line on this did he bite off GZA and what GZA song is it on. Jay is still a great rapper (old albums). Peace.
boozaaa 2 years ago
At :56 when he says vehicular and homicide. He didnt take a whole line from him, but GZA uses the same words in "Duel of the Iron Mic". Just listen to that song and you will understand what im talking about.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
thanks. But he did bit plenty of bars from biggie.
boozaaa 2 years ago
Ya....Biggie was one of the best but NaS is the best ever.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
I agree. I'm only 17 yrs old and have only been listening to hip-hop for 3 years, but Nas is my favorite rapper and I think has been ever since I heard Illmatic.
boozaaa 2 years ago
listen to more tracks. Nas is nasty but nit best
kellyoc73 2 years ago
you said nas is nasty but nit best. did you mean he's not the best rapper. i never said he was the best, but I did say he is my favorite rapper. who's your favorite rapper? and you said listen to more tracks, whose tracks are you saying I should listen to?
boozaaa 2 years ago
Check my favs. Enjoy!!
kellyoc73 2 years ago
ever????
kellyoc73 2 years ago
Ya the best to ever do it. Its obvious. He has like 5 really good albums and some of his lines are unbelievable. And dont say biggie is the best. He was really good but more of a punchline rapper.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
@GhostDeini09 Yeah i guess gza is the first person to ever say vehicular homicide huh? STFU!!
songassassin 2 years ago
In a rap song yep. The majority of the mainstream rappers that have loads of money basically bit off the good rappers that don't get all the attention. So ya suck on that bitch.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
@GhostDeini09 well if your stupid ass feel that way u gotta find out who is the first person to ever say the word "nigga" or "flow" in a rap. Every rapper is a biter because they say the word "nigga" and "flow"! Right?
songassassin 2 years ago
Thats weird because im 17 also and been listening to hip-hop for about 3 years also. But ya illmatic is the best hip-hop album ever made. NaS shits on alot of other rappers.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
Thats cool your youtube profile says your 23 though. Whatever. Do alot of people listen to real hip-hop at your school, because nobody really does at my school. I've got in a bunch of stupid arguments with people, because they say Wayne is better than my favorite rappers like Nas and Lupe. One guy told me he doesn't like rappers with deep voices. WTF. I play him Gangstarr's mass appeal and he said its boring. WTF, I don't get it? Peace.
boozaaa 2 years ago
Nah the majority of kids at my school dont know real hip-hop. They think wayne is the best which he is definitely not and not even close. Hes a studio gangster and his whole style is wack as hell. Wayne will never NEVER reach NaS's level, he shits on wayne. Mass Appeal is a good song and who ever said it isnt is stupid as fuck.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
jay z went fukin hard on this
hes greatest alive
nas second
whoizitwhoizit 2 years ago 2
Hahaha no nas is the best. Jay stole a line from GZA in this freestyle.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
@GhostDeini09 damn, he did? what line he steal? destroyed my mood. how come every good jay verse has to have some biting in it? this sucks.
tyreesemj1 1 year ago
@tyreesemj1 The line where he says vehicular homicide. Jay bites soo much of biggies shit....he sucks.
GhostDeini09 1 year ago
@tyreesemj1 The line where he says vehicular homicide. Jay bites soo much of biggies shit....he sucks.
GhostDeini09 1 year ago
@GhostDeini09 Y DID U LOOK UP HIS NAME U MUST LIKE SOMETHING DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!
KidQuest4Money 1 year ago
@KidQuest4Money Cause i heard that he stole a line from the Genius in this freestyle.
GhostDeini09 1 year ago
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@tyreesemj1 The line where he says vehicular homicide. Jay bites soo much of biggies shit....he sucks.
GhostDeini09 1 year ago
@GhostDeini09 im glad you caught that lmao
i had to backspace my comment cause i read what u said
fuck jayz. he steals his whole rhyme book from other mc's
THIS IS A JOE BUDDEN SONG. PERIOD
badLuckrapp 1 year ago
@badLuckrapp seriously? One allusion means he steals his rhymes? hahaha
thetompenney1 1 year ago
How the fuck is Nas after Jay if Nas beat dude in a battle? Think.
busymike 2 years ago
Thats a matter of opinion.
I think that Nas lyrics on ether was lite. The beat was fire
Jay went in on Blueprint 2
yungenfant 2 years ago
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wat the fuck u talkin about? jay z far greater than nas
whoizitwhoizit 2 years ago
Jay is richer because he sold his soul, but Nas is the better emcee. No debating that.
busymike 2 years ago
Man Get Serious.... SuperUgly Killed that Battle... Put 1 Bar down from ether that was hard...Just ONE.... I DARE YOU
krj0829 2 years ago
the whole so. which is why jay-z references it so much, on top of that getting "ethered" is feared in hiphop. nobody is scared of getting "superugly" which jayz apologized for
hiphopsavior101 2 years ago 2
You can't pick just one bar in Ether. There are so many. Half of the Super Ugly song isn't even about Nas. He's just rhyming words and the other half all he talks about is Nas' baby moms. Ether addresses a number of funny shit about Jay.
busymike 2 years ago
who won the war my dude?
mcriner1385 2 years ago
Jay-Z fans always try to flip things around. You know damn well there is no war. It was a rap battle and Nas won it, point blank period. Stop trying to bring irrelevant non-rap shit into a lyrical rap battle.
busymike 2 years ago
Are you fucking serious? Nas is the best no doubt. Nas doesn't bite other rappers rhymes, jay-z does.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
@GhostDeini09 Listen to the song Nas did on the 8 mile soundtrack. He bit MC Lytes verse in that song. I dont mean to break ur heart but its true.
songassassin 2 years ago
Ok well he's still the best alive no doubt about it. He already killed jay-z with ether.The only rappers that could compete with him is a few Wu members.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
fuck off, nas does bite and jay z is better
whoizitwhoizit 2 years ago
You're an idiot nas doesnt bite, and how is jay better if nas already killed him with ether?
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
Hahaha ya thats why NaS whooped his ass with ether, jay tried to come back at him with 2 tracks after ether and failed haha that sucks.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
that his best freestyle to me damn
juve4life5 2 years ago
"I aint talking to nobody in parTICULAR, my flows just veHICULAR homicide when i'm PICKING UP dust"
That caught the freaking attention out of me!
Jay-z been my fav. NOw i'm 100000% certain that he holds down songs lik this that I don't always happen to hear
use29 2 years ago 16
Same.
LuffyGears2 2 years ago
Hahaha he stole from GZA in that line hahaha listen to "duel of the iron mic" and you'll know what im talkin about.
GhostDeini09 2 years ago
@use29 Ima Jay fan too but that nigga Buddens got in that ass after this... Jay backed off quick as hell lol
MrPhresh87 1 year ago
@use29 explain that line
jesseclifton 1 year ago
@use29 gza
Quake2815 1 year ago
Joey did his thing though
kellyoc73 2 years ago
One of jays nicest bars...Sorry Joey
kellyoc73 2 years ago
"whose the nicest? life or lifeless..." WTF
greatest dead or alive
940016192 2 years ago 2
jay murdered this damn
ray8507 2 years ago
NUF SAID!!!!
pheights410 2 years ago
Budden did his thing though. Dont sleep on him
kellyoc73 2 years ago
He bit the GZA.......
UrbanEsta 2 years ago
that's they call em HOV
hydrohydro44 2 years ago
holy shit... O.O
disrespect 2 years ago
lol @ joe buddens getting owned on his own track
Godlikesjuice 3 years ago 10