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  • Hey J-Smoove and all the "conscious" heads? Islamic fundamentalists can make videos announcing their intentions and make it clear that they are doing it in the name of Allah, carry out those plans effectively, and then take credit and rejoice in the streets over 9/11 and the "conscious" hiphop community's response: Bush knocked down the towers. - - - But Obama can be nominated for the f%#cking Nobel peace prize while he's still a newbie Senator and you think that people are too hard on him. LOL!

  • @d0y0uwantm0re

    Oh gosh, another tea bagger. Do yourself a favor and get educated.

  • @d0y0uwantm0re the phrase "bush knocked down the towers" is not meant to be taken literally. its more about blowback; the consequences of our cutthroat, backstabbing foreign policy is more cut throats and stabbed backs. our leaders didn't crash any planes in any towers; we just provided people across the world with good reasons to hate us and the means and motivation to finally do something about it. Like how we fucked with Japan's economy, then Pearl Harbor happened. Our leaders provoked 9/11.

  • Stats are great when you're sure you're right but you don't want to follow a thought to its logical conclusion. Instead, you just google some anti-Bush-isms and get all the prefabricated ideological pablum you want. I could google stats back at you that prove the opposite of your stats. But why bother? BTW, did you know Obama was nominated for the Nobel peace prize BEFORE he became President? (His name was chosen about the time it was clear he would be the democratic nominee)

  • Look what savior Obama has done. He maxed out America's credit card and then took all our stuff to a pawn shop to buy scratch and wins. Meanwhile the Tea Party are the only people who have been saying "Hey we're broke" but they disagree with Obama so they're racist. EVERY media outlet but one has the same message, but the one, lone, single conservative network is "evil" because they disagree with the savior who can't pay the rent. Surely you can see that there's truth in what I'm saying.

  • Here are some interesting stats that were released by the U.S. Government Printing Office (GPO):

    - Bush increased government spending by 88%, Obama only by 7%.

    - Under Bush, 850,000 private payroll jobs were lost. Obama's stimulus package created 1.8 million jobs in the private sector so far.

    - Clinton's last budget: a $128 million surplus. Bush's last budget: a $1.4 trillion deficit. Obama brought it back down to 1.3 trillion in 2010. The 2013 estimate is 0.8 trillion.

    Interesting, huh?

  • HAHAHA hindsight is 20/20 isn't it? Gimme a break. J-Smooth I'm a hiphop artist, radio host, etc. etc. I'm not some ignorant hillbilly, and I know that North America and Western culture overall is about 75% past racism. There's still the legitimate 2% that are redneck hillbilly scumbags, (and they are not Sarah Palin and every Christian as MTV has commanded you to believe) and then there are the other 23% of urban "social activists" who are the real racists. You just project and discriminate.

  • Capitalism is destroying our country? What built our country? A person has a right to the money they earn. If somebody can earn more money, there is no reason they should be forced to give it to people who can't earn as much. I believe in charity, but I don't think it is ok for the government to take huge amounts of people's money, and give it to other people.

    Also, this video makes it seem like the only reason somebody would vote against Obama is that he's black

  • this comment is not meant to be racist in any way shape or form so do not construe it that way. but the main reason (not the only reason but the main reason) that Obama got elected president is because he is black. I say this because if you saw, almost all the black artists (from rappers to singers to actors) got behind him, even the ones who truly have no business in politics, got behind obama and told their fan base to vote for him.

  • you can win over racism in other ways rather than just voting for a "black" man , some people just don't agree with obama , and i think people hoped a lot , obama needs to take that hope and actually do something with it

  • too bad we got obama in office and hes hardly doing anything because of all the opposition... capitalism is destroying our country it's time we move on to a better system.

  • OBAMA '08 i voted for him

  • I wonder if this is what happened *after* Obama got elected. We carried it through the election, and then we (and President Obama) had to face up to the reality that we and our country is in some pretty deep shit. And when we as a country were forced to stare that shit in the face and realize that intelligence and idealism weren't going to make it go away and we were gonna have to shovel it, THAT'S when this tolerance fatigue starting setting in. Thoughts?

  • I love this brother. I'm so glad he was mostly wrong about the election, but I know that there were some folks who did experience that "tolerance fatigue." I'm just glad that enough people did follow through. Yeah, historically America (migrant Europeans who have been here for a few generations) has had a pretty rough track record of dealing with the original Americans, and everyone else. I didn't have a whole bunch of faith in America either, but insha'llah over time things are changing.

  • You realize that he made the video in January...of 2008, right?

  • drsnapple

    That was probably the least coherent argument I have ever read under an illdoc1 video. Everything he said has not only been documented, but studied. It has been a trend in this country that people say they will vote for one candidate based on some need to sound tolerant or socially-adjusted and then do something completely opposite. In this last election Obama was the person most likely to be victimized by this trend.

    "so you can shut up now!" LOL

  • So how's that "hope and change" working out for you?

    Everyone I know at work is "Hopeing" there's going to be more than "Change" in our pockets.

  • MIT1369: So, I take it you've been in a coma for 9 years? Man, that must suck.

  • @yerk3

    Sorry kid. I slipped the blinders off decades ago. Try it some time. This is the administration of "Hoax and Chains".

  • MIT1369: Talking in clichéd sound bites does not a sketpic make.

  • @yerk3

    Time to wake up and smell the humus.

  • MIT1963: LOL! Wow, you still can't manage to string together a sentence without resorting to some kind of quasi-racist soundbite about Middle Eastern food.

  • @MIT1369: Hope and change is working out great, actually. The economy is on the upswing and the United States has a better standing in the global community. If the Republicans would get out of the way and let Obama do some real work, we might even have affordable health care soon.

  • Your voice sounds like Vin Diesel.. Sexy

  • why someone black, latino, asian says someone maybe prejudice...ppl always throws their hands in the air and says, "why is it always about race".

    *shaking head* you'll never really get it...right?! 

    take a person who is clearly qualified, talented, etc. but in your mind you devalue him, then turn around and make excuses for the inadequacy of his WHITE counterpart...what the hell would you call that?

    It's about RACE because many people have already made it about race in their minds...

  • Yeah, It's always about race and race only isn't it?

    It couldn't have anything to do with Obama not knowing the difference between a profit and a profit margin. Private payrolls are shrinking. Government payrolls are expanding. The government sector, which can use deadly force to achieve its goals, is growing stronger. The private sector, which cannot, is growing weaker. For those who believe that America's greatness comes from government, this would be a good thing.

  • Cold as hell?

    Nice irony. ;)

  • he what was the song in the back

    it sounded like k-os?

  • its the beatnuts

  • cold as hell?

    i thought hell was hot

  • read Dantes inferno the (i think) 8th or 9 th ring of hell is freazing.

    hence where we get the term "cold as hell"

  • i feel bad for Obama! i don't see eye to eye with his polotics but i see a good man and a good leader. what i feel bad for him about is that he will never be seen as having won the presidentsy on his own merits but that he won it becous he is black, and that he will not go down in history as the 44th prez but as the FIRST BLACK PREZ!!!!!!!!!

  • I don't think people should vote based on race. I'm glad Obama won, not because of his race, but because of his political stance. If we vote just based on race, religion, orientation, etc, and start losing focus on the political side of... politics, then our country will be in a pile of trouble.

  • i agree...i mean how negative are we? here you have one the only candidates NOT get himself involved in the madraking...and we fail to compliment him.

    here's a guy that had the nerve to hope for better things for the states...and we say he's unrealistic.

    here's a president thats doing weekly addresses, town halls, and f**** fireside chats...and you say NOT GOOD enough.

    AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR. YOU FOOLS COMMITTED US TO BUSH FOR 8 f*** years! HOW DARE YOU!

  • nearer the beggining u sounded and looked liek Vin Diesel

  • Surprise!

    WE DID IT!

  • 9 months later, Obama hasn't won yet, but it looks like we're ready to live up to your hopes, Jay.

  • At this point, I don't see a difference in the wide scope of the area. I truly believe there is something else up with the world. The citizens of the U.S. are going down. Down as in the presidential seat doesn't mean a whole lot. Really it hasn't for ages.

  • Its interesting that people are assuming that you are suggesting that tolerance fatique is going to set in with the White populace only... There are plenty of Black people and others of colour who also deep down may not be ready for a President of colour. There are plenty of us who get caught up in race to the finish line and then when its down to the wire - we trip. While I hope we keep it together in the voting booth I dont reasonably expect that we will based on our history...

  • What do you mean "us" tolerant people? Let's assume that Dinkins was racially biased. That's unfortunate. But to assume that if a man in power will act a certain way because he is black, is to be a bigot. But you're right, it can't be tolerance fatigue if you never had tolerance to begin with.

  • Most ignorant statement I've read. You sir should never be taken serious again.

  • and you were fucking wrong racist tax cuts for the middle class

  • well said

  • Some of the responses you recieved were realy nasty. My only comment is that I respect the fact that you simply replayed and old vlog that is very specific and not openly predudicial as most of the commentary has been on this issue. Your commentary is right on the mark by the way. Hopefully we will get where we need to be in my lifetime. We need more people like you to get it done.

    Signed

    A proud white republican

  • I think you missed the point...

  • The point I got from this is that the man understands that racism still exists but he aproaches it in a way that is not inflamatory. Those of us that ARE attemting to get past it do not perpetuate it. we "believe in Amerca" to quote his final word on the subject. I truly wish he were my next door neighbor so I could talk to him daily.

  • True. and I wish that I could talk to him too!

  • RIGHT ON!

    Stay strong!

  • What Rev. Wright Eats....

    Doesn't Make Obama Shit!

    If you Voted For Bush,

    Are you Guilty By Association for all the Unnecessary Blood on His Hands????

  • Why make history just for the sake of making history! Thats a messed up rationale. I agree with you on people lying to themselves, but not in the same way you do. I've become polarized by Obama's association with a racist, and consequently have decided not to vote for him. It's not that i'm more comfortable with a white man its that I vote based on rationality not just for making histories sake.

  • well said lol we really need to be real with our selves

  • how he was doing the same thing to black people. "He was riding dirty."

    God may forgive and forget but it seems that the good Rev. still hasn't forgiven Bill Clinton.

  • Clinton lives in Fairytale Land,

    Who the Hell Believes in That?

  • After looking at the pictureof Bill Clinton and Rev. Wright I am reminded why these two men were meeting.

    Bill Clinton was publicly repenting of his sin with Monica.

    I am sure each man of the cloth recieved his repentence.

    Rev. Wright obviously recieved it because it was still in his memory years later.

    He even reinacted what Bill was doing and

  • Tolerance fatigue?

    Tolerance of what?

  • Really liked your views, insightful and true.

  • The comment about gomer pyle is so FUNNY.

  • Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

    Another zionist puppet in the service of israel.

    Just look at his mainstream support.

    Wake up ppl!!!

  • and Obama is getting fried now cause this preacher is anti-zionist...puppets go to preachers like this? So many Americans, particularly on this board, go into conspiracy theories, lunatic fringe theories...and people should really take this kind of stuff seriously?

  • You are real and right. Thank you.

  • Fabulous video, illdoc.

    Loving criticism, man. Well done.

    I'm a Canadian, so I don't get to vote for your President, but I still have to live next door to him.

    I hope you vote for Obama, and I hope Diebolt doesn't change your vote.

    Good luck you guys.

  • Well, he's as White as he is Black, so thats a fair comment.

  • I thought so, and in his last speech he as much stated so. Still saying so pisses off people whom support him. I wonder why saying the truth the he is a mix is considered so offensive.

  • Its usually considered offensive because its a prelude to some attack. For example, are you implying that blacks like him simply because of his race?

    Obama is White and Black, and as a Black person, I find that comforting. That he is what, 80% of America? The man even has Asian relatives. I cannot think of a Candidate in the history of our country more reflective of its population.

  • Truth is many blacks in america are of mix linage. I guess what offends me is those whom do vote for him soully because of his race. One would hope that would not matter.

    It should be about the issues and not his race black/white/or mixed. Now on the issues I disagree with him and most democrats. But his latest speech for me gave me more respect for him they I had hope for... but still the issues block me voting for him.

  • Think of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, both of them were Black, and much more "black" then Barack Obama. Both barely got ANY black people to vote for them, particularly outside of the South. blacks are voting for Barack because they like more then the colour of his skin.

    As for race based voting, look, my parents were immigrants, not slave descendants, so I cannot relate completely to the slave descendant complex.

    Still, I can "get it". I dont blame them for being particularly excited.

  • I just wish the breaking ground doesnt occur soully to break the ground.

    You mades some good points on Sharpton and Jackson, I had not considered that. I just remember conversations I have had with a few supporters of Obama and how they remarked that race was a major reason they were voting for him.

    I really liked in his speech how he recognized that many white were never decendant of slave owners & how they are offend by "your to blame" attatude of some in liberal circles.

  • I sincerly hope you change your mind and vote for Obama.

    I am telling you, he will make millions of Americans more proud to be American then ever, ever, before.

  • Thanks but on the issues important to me he is on the polar opposite side. Granted of the three people I disagree with that are running he is the only one yet to insult my interest group, it is highly likely due to our resistance that he will insult us one day.

    I am a Conservative Christian, small government, social conservative, spending limiting and low taxes guy. He is a polar opposite.

    But I am happy with many things he said in this speech.

  • "The Real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."

    - Felix Frankfurter -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice

    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count votes decide everything."

    - Josef Stalin --

    do u really think by voteing your electing your next president? the next prez is already chosen, and we the sheeple go along for the ride, driven by none other than the bankers that rule this world..

  • Whites are so spoiled and deluded. Tom Jefferson's 'Notes on Virginia' have filled you with so much misinfo. Centuries of being coddled have produced very fearful, unjust beings. Take your tolerance and stick it. How pathetic. Who do you think you're fooling?

  • I truly hope that everyone votes for the person that speaks for their own political beliefs, and is the most genuine, race and sex aside. For this to happen people would have to know what their own beliefs are, and many just don't think. I hope that we can all progress.

  • Speak the truth!

  • That was great! Thanks.

  • Obama NOW!

  • well said i suppose. but obama hasnt described exactly what hes going to do for change or why his change will work. in fact not one democrat has stuck to their guns and consistently explained anything, nor republicans. Theres only two candidates I've seen who DO EXPLAIN how they will institute change and make it work and thats Kucinich and Ron Paul. and Ron Paul has more support. you should look into the guy before jumping on the "change" bandwagon. just a thought. peace

  • ......well you just summed up what everyone's thinking, respect.

  • Damn, I WAS gonna start my own blog about this, but you hit the nail on the head.

    5 stars.

    your awsomeness has ruined my internet blogging career.... in a good way

  • See mine for Obama

  • Oh my God! "black man black man" This is not a black thing...HELLO!, he's the best candidate running, that's why those people voted for him. What I have is "Race card" fatigue...

    There are plenty of people who see A PERSON when they look at someone and NOT A COLOR.

  • Regardless who wins, the real winner, China, takes it all. None of the candidates, maybe Ron Paul excluded, understands that US economy is falling apart and war spending is driving the country south like migrant birds, but with little chance to ever go up. Americans will wake up when their bellies are empty, but then with obesity the way it is there, it will take years before they feel hungry.

  • I have Tax fatigue. Or tax and spend fatigue.

  • Im not ready to vote for a man who isnt strong on positions, its KUCINICH or 3rd party for me

  • I like your video but I think strongly that you are wrong. The whitest, most christian redneck will vote for barack WAY before they would support hillary. This isn't my position, just my opinion. It doesn't make sense, but the "comfort zone" wins hands down with Obama. He has eaten "tolerance fatigue" every day for breakfast since he was born. And he was made to be president.

  • Absolutely!

  • This is great and I agree--we can do it. I'm 65 and white and will not change my mind. Just give me a chance to vote for him. I haven't been this excited since I went clean for Gene, and you are too young to get that reference.

  • If Obama OR Clinton wins the Democratic presidential nomination, the republicans will be ecstatic! You Americans are too bloody racist to vote for someone named BARACK Obama and to sexist to vote for a woman -- no matter how pale /butch she is.

    The republicans are counting on that racism and sexism to win the election. Don't forget that the red 'neck' states put your current President into office.

  • this is sad but true. although i hope that you are wrong. we need a change.

  • I'm sorry but this is not true. I'm a Republican and I'm neither racist or sexist. I wouldn't belong to a party that was sexist or racist. I wish people would stop throwing hideous labels at others because it fits their political agenda.

  • So , you're saying that no one in the Republican party or America for that matter, harbours any ill feelings towards their fellow citizens?

    Surely, You Jest??!

    Just because YOU'RE not a racists doesn't mean others aren't.

    Gosh, your nation, lest you forget, was founded on racist, sexist, and classist ideologies.

  • And please spare me the "that's the past" rhetoric you Americans love to throw around. That type of attitude never remains in the past--it's pasted on from generation to generation.

    Some may choose to hide their feelings underneath a heavy quilt but once water is thrown, it rears it's ugly head.

    Just ask America's new target of hatred-- The Middle Easterners( Muslims) and the Mexicans.

  • There are people who harbour "ill feelings" towards their fellow citizens in every country. Again I just don't like when throw labels to a whole group people. As a whole I don't think Americans are racist or sexist.

    All I have to say as a Hispanic female in America and have never been treated bad because of my gender or my ethnicity. I can only talk about my experience.

  • I don't think that all Americans judge racism and sexism the same way so its easy for those who don't experience overt racism or sexism (such as violent hate crime) to ignore the more subtle forms of bigotry that pervade not only our society but the world at large.

    While you may not have personally experienced ill treatment, that's not the case for millions of other people treated unjustly by a prejudiced socio-economic and governmental system due to their race/sex/gender identity/etc.

  • "I didn't listen to this guy (I've heard this type of crap b4)"

    Do I need to point out what is wrong with this sentence?

  • Your title said it all - I listened afterwards. Look up the definition of tolerate, no equality at all in tolerate. Most of your simpleminded posters don't have my level of understanding.

  • Most Hispanics are not illegal. I live in what was once Mexico. I do find some truth in your last sentence though.

  • You condescendingly pointed out that America was founded on racist/sexist/classist ideals, but what place wasn't? Please tell me, where is the land that prejudice forgot?

    Your separation of the terms Middle Eastern, Mexican and American show no understanding that these terms overlap for a great many of us along with terms like African and Asian. America is not some great white block where everyone's identity is clear cut along color lines, so when you say "you Americans", be more specific.

  • That comment was aimed at MaddyMill even though it ended up on top for some reason.

  • Forgive my french, but how do you explain that the Iowans somehow didn't "panick" as you say. Isn't Obama american? Hasn't he shown his dedication to serving this country and making our nation a better place throughout his private and political career? Then all this is just some divisive, self-hating crap... with all respect.

  • I sent you a longer reply, but briefly: I don't think it's divisive at all to acknowledge that prejudice and race are still major issues, and encourage people to confront/transcend them. If anything, AVOIDING such frank discussion is what perpetuates division, in the long term. It is precisely BECAUSE Obama is a great American that we need to have this conversation.

  • So if Obama loses...it's because white america chickened out? - and not Obama may have said or done something that -most judged not Ok-- for instance - should he get all pro bombing runs or something.... Don't get me wrong I always think this stuff needs discussing and lots of it...but his race is not the only reason he could lose. That said I got interested in him after reading his positions...I hope folks go to his site and put the focus on the man's comittments and positions...

  • I agree with you, I think we should leave race out of this election, this is not 1907.

    Obama for President!

  • Me? I don't think it's possible to 'leave race out ofhte election' because it is 2007 and we may well elect our first mixed race president...that is TREMENDOUS NEWS. That is earth shaking, that is HUGE. "Leaving race out" is damn near impossible when you have all these rich white men saying "America is not ready for a black or female president"

  • ...AND THEN you have the likes of Fox saying "Obama is so well spoken, so articulate (for a black man) He's not playing the race card--- He's not like Sharpton- He is and acceptable black man" I mean get real. "Leaving race out of it" is not possible in America. For good and bad...(I do understand the idealism from which your sentiment comes from...)

  • Right, I share the idealism, but I think the true mark of progress is when there's no impulse to "leave race out of it" because we are comfortable with having race in it. If we need to avoid talking about it, that in itself proves we're not over it.

  • dead on :)

  • @CityzenJane

    The irony in the whole "race card" is that a white man played it first. I stumbled across a political cartoon circa 1860 something that depicts Abe Lincolin albeit with a Wolverine-esque devil horn hair look, playing a card with with looks like a stereotypical sambo style face on it. Which basically reinforces what Dr. Cress Welsing said ages ago "if race had not been an issue with the white man foremost it would not be an issue with the coloured man today".

  • @Aadonis219 played the race card? - man it was the house's deck, the house was white and the house always won... It galls me the way some butthurt pasty face dough boys (cough) Karl Rove(cough) toss that term around without shame....because it's bloody shameful.

  • I think the majority of America would have no problem voting for a black man. The only problem is that Obama is not the best candidate, Ron Paul is the best candidate. Obama is more presidential, and probably second best, but not the best.

  • Dude stop the Ron Paul aka Dr No,the guy is not electable! All i have to say is Obama 08. Fire up and i know you're ready to go!

  • Why stop? Take a moment and go compare Pauls positions directly to Obamas. Be honest with yourself and tell me who you think is the best candidate.

  • Is he the guy who wants to abolish the Income tax, No thank you!

  • @rrrconserve Ron Paul doesn't 'believe in evolution' last I heard and though we've elected many stupid people before...I hope we are past doing that thing about wanting to have beers with people.

  • amen brotha. hes right people. dont let another white redneck candidate from a southern state that looks like GOMER PILE(FULL METAL JACKET) win this election..imagine how different our country could have been if JFK and his brother were never murdered. Obama has a chance ppl, dnt be afraid of change..unless u want another monarch dictatorship like we have had due to BUSH for the past 8 years..

  • What's with the COAT

  • nigga its like 0 degrees in NY

  • werd n on monday its goin to 60 again

  • Lol...I like you, I'd vote for you for President.

  • Good stuff, Jay.

  • Brilliant! Drop that Science! :D

  • lol...what? u ain't pay your gas bill ? lol... but yea i hear u on the election

  • Nice vid. Best moment was at the end - the face you made after saying, "I believe in America."

  • Thanks for keeping our heads screwed on as we go into this election, man. Another great vid. :-)

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