Hey J-Smoove and all the "conscious" heads? Islamic fundamentalists can make videos announcing their intentions and make it clear that they are doing it in the name of Allah, carry out those plans effectively, and then take credit and rejoice in the streets over 9/11 and the "conscious" hiphop community's response: Bush knocked down the towers. - - - But Obama can be nominated for the f%#cking Nobel peace prize while he's still a newbie Senator and you think that people are too hard on him. LOL!
@d0y0uwantm0re the phrase "bush knocked down the towers" is not meant to be taken literally. its more about blowback; the consequences of our cutthroat, backstabbing foreign policy is more cut throats and stabbed backs. our leaders didn't crash any planes in any towers; we just provided people across the world with good reasons to hate us and the means and motivation to finally do something about it. Like how we fucked with Japan's economy, then Pearl Harbor happened. Our leaders provoked 9/11.
Stats are great when you're sure you're right but you don't want to follow a thought to its logical conclusion. Instead, you just google some anti-Bush-isms and get all the prefabricated ideological pablum you want. I could google stats back at you that prove the opposite of your stats. But why bother? BTW, did you know Obama was nominated for the Nobel peace prize BEFORE he became President? (His name was chosen about the time it was clear he would be the democratic nominee)
Look what savior Obama has done. He maxed out America's credit card and then took all our stuff to a pawn shop to buy scratch and wins. Meanwhile the Tea Party are the only people who have been saying "Hey we're broke" but they disagree with Obama so they're racist. EVERY media outlet but one has the same message, but the one, lone, single conservative network is "evil" because they disagree with the savior who can't pay the rent. Surely you can see that there's truth in what I'm saying.
Here are some interesting stats that were released by the U.S. Government Printing Office (GPO):
- Bush increased government spending by 88%, Obama only by 7%.
- Under Bush, 850,000 private payroll jobs were lost. Obama's stimulus package created 1.8 million jobs in the private sector so far.
- Clinton's last budget: a $128 million surplus. Bush's last budget: a $1.4 trillion deficit. Obama brought it back down to 1.3 trillion in 2010. The 2013 estimate is 0.8 trillion.
HAHAHA hindsight is 20/20 isn't it? Gimme a break. J-Smooth I'm a hiphop artist, radio host, etc. etc. I'm not some ignorant hillbilly, and I know that North America and Western culture overall is about 75% past racism. There's still the legitimate 2% that are redneck hillbilly scumbags, (and they are not Sarah Palin and every Christian as MTV has commanded you to believe) and then there are the other 23% of urban "social activists" who are the real racists. You just project and discriminate.
Capitalism is destroying our country? What built our country? A person has a right to the money they earn. If somebody can earn more money, there is no reason they should be forced to give it to people who can't earn as much. I believe in charity, but I don't think it is ok for the government to take huge amounts of people's money, and give it to other people.
Also, this video makes it seem like the only reason somebody would vote against Obama is that he's black
this comment is not meant to be racist in any way shape or form so do not construe it that way. but the main reason (not the only reason but the main reason) that Obama got elected president is because he is black. I say this because if you saw, almost all the black artists (from rappers to singers to actors) got behind him, even the ones who truly have no business in politics, got behind obama and told their fan base to vote for him.
you can win over racism in other ways rather than just voting for a "black" man , some people just don't agree with obama , and i think people hoped a lot , obama needs to take that hope and actually do something with it
too bad we got obama in office and hes hardly doing anything because of all the opposition... capitalism is destroying our country it's time we move on to a better system.
I wonder if this is what happened *after* Obama got elected. We carried it through the election, and then we (and President Obama) had to face up to the reality that we and our country is in some pretty deep shit. And when we as a country were forced to stare that shit in the face and realize that intelligence and idealism weren't going to make it go away and we were gonna have to shovel it, THAT'S when this tolerance fatigue starting setting in. Thoughts?
I love this brother. I'm so glad he was mostly wrong about the election, but I know that there were some folks who did experience that "tolerance fatigue." I'm just glad that enough people did follow through. Yeah, historically America (migrant Europeans who have been here for a few generations) has had a pretty rough track record of dealing with the original Americans, and everyone else. I didn't have a whole bunch of faith in America either, but insha'llah over time things are changing.
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I HATE this guy! Obama won by a lot so you can shut up now! "Most white people are really racist inside but can't admit it to themselves" is basically what he just said. Aren't you half white?
and P.S. you're corny as hell and too dorky to talk about rap.
That was probably the least coherent argument I have ever read under an illdoc1 video. Everything he said has not only been documented, but studied. It has been a trend in this country that people say they will vote for one candidate based on some need to sound tolerant or socially-adjusted and then do something completely opposite. In this last election Obama was the person most likely to be victimized by this trend.
MIT1963: LOL! Wow, you still can't manage to string together a sentence without resorting to some kind of quasi-racist soundbite about Middle Eastern food.
@MIT1369: Hope and change is working out great, actually. The economy is on the upswing and the United States has a better standing in the global community. If the Republicans would get out of the way and let Obama do some real work, we might even have affordable health care soon.
why someone black, latino, asian says someone maybe prejudice...ppl always throws their hands in the air and says, "why is it always about race".
*shaking head* you'll never really get it...right?!
take a person who is clearly qualified, talented, etc. but in your mind you devalue him, then turn around and make excuses for the inadequacy of his WHITE counterpart...what the hell would you call that?
It's about RACE because many people have already made it about race in their minds...
Yeah, It's always about race and race only isn't it?
It couldn't have anything to do with Obama not knowing the difference between a profit and a profit margin. Private payrolls are shrinking. Government payrolls are expanding. The government sector, which can use deadly force to achieve its goals, is growing stronger. The private sector, which cannot, is growing weaker. For those who believe that America's greatness comes from government, this would be a good thing.
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How about these people didn't vote for Obama because they could tell the man has never accomplished anything except making the media fall in love with him. Which them of course makes us fall in love with him. OHHHHH come on. Remember how you like to sit around and talk about how dumb America is getting and how stupid we are all getting. Or how the media is really the front man for the evil man. Except for when they want you to vote Obama right?
i feel bad for Obama! i don't see eye to eye with his polotics but i see a good man and a good leader. what i feel bad for him about is that he will never be seen as having won the presidentsy on his own merits but that he won it becous he is black, and that he will not go down in history as the 44th prez but as the FIRST BLACK PREZ!!!!!!!!!
I don't think people should vote based on race. I'm glad Obama won, not because of his race, but because of his political stance. If we vote just based on race, religion, orientation, etc, and start losing focus on the political side of... politics, then our country will be in a pile of trouble.
i agree...i mean how negative are we? here you have one the only candidates NOT get himself involved in the madraking...and we fail to compliment him.
here's a guy that had the nerve to hope for better things for the states...and we say he's unrealistic.
here's a president thats doing weekly addresses, town halls, and f**** fireside chats...and you say NOT GOOD enough.
AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR. YOU FOOLS COMMITTED US TO BUSH FOR 8 f*** years! HOW DARE YOU!
At this point, I don't see a difference in the wide scope of the area. I truly believe there is something else up with the world. The citizens of the U.S. are going down. Down as in the presidential seat doesn't mean a whole lot. Really it hasn't for ages.
Its interesting that people are assuming that you are suggesting that tolerance fatique is going to set in with the White populace only... There are plenty of Black people and others of colour who also deep down may not be ready for a President of colour. There are plenty of us who get caught up in race to the finish line and then when its down to the wire - we trip. While I hope we keep it together in the voting booth I dont reasonably expect that we will based on our history...
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As a New Yorker who lived thru Dinkins, I can tell you all...it's not tolerance fatigue. It's the realization the blacks in Power look to ONLY better each other. Apperantly blacks are the only poor people and all whites are born into money. He never did anything for poor or middleclass unless they looked like him.We thought there would be CHANGE when Dinkins came in, and all of us TOLERANT people wher dead wrong.If Obama is prez, it will be the same thing.
What do you mean "us" tolerant people? Let's assume that Dinkins was racially biased. That's unfortunate. But to assume that if a man in power will act a certain way because he is black, is to be a bigot. But you're right, it can't be tolerance fatigue if you never had tolerance to begin with.
Some of the responses you recieved were realy nasty. My only comment is that I respect the fact that you simply replayed and old vlog that is very specific and not openly predudicial as most of the commentary has been on this issue. Your commentary is right on the mark by the way. Hopefully we will get where we need to be in my lifetime. We need more people like you to get it done.
The point I got from this is that the man understands that racism still exists but he aproaches it in a way that is not inflamatory. Those of us that ARE attemting to get past it do not perpetuate it. we "believe in Amerca" to quote his final word on the subject. I truly wish he were my next door neighbor so I could talk to him daily.
Why make history just for the sake of making history! Thats a messed up rationale. I agree with you on people lying to themselves, but not in the same way you do. I've become polarized by Obama's association with a racist, and consequently have decided not to vote for him. It's not that i'm more comfortable with a white man its that I vote based on rationality not just for making histories sake.
and Obama is getting fried now cause this preacher is anti-zionist...puppets go to preachers like this? So many Americans, particularly on this board, go into conspiracy theories, lunatic fringe theories...and people should really take this kind of stuff seriously?
I thought so, and in his last speech he as much stated so. Still saying so pisses off people whom support him. I wonder why saying the truth the he is a mix is considered so offensive.
Its usually considered offensive because its a prelude to some attack. For example, are you implying that blacks like him simply because of his race?
Obama is White and Black, and as a Black person, I find that comforting. That he is what, 80% of America? The man even has Asian relatives. I cannot think of a Candidate in the history of our country more reflective of its population.
Truth is many blacks in america are of mix linage. I guess what offends me is those whom do vote for him soully because of his race. One would hope that would not matter.
It should be about the issues and not his race black/white/or mixed. Now on the issues I disagree with him and most democrats. But his latest speech for me gave me more respect for him they I had hope for... but still the issues block me voting for him.
Think of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, both of them were Black, and much more "black" then Barack Obama. Both barely got ANY black people to vote for them, particularly outside of the South. blacks are voting for Barack because they like more then the colour of his skin.
As for race based voting, look, my parents were immigrants, not slave descendants, so I cannot relate completely to the slave descendant complex.
Still, I can "get it". I dont blame them for being particularly excited.
I just wish the breaking ground doesnt occur soully to break the ground.
You mades some good points on Sharpton and Jackson, I had not considered that. I just remember conversations I have had with a few supporters of Obama and how they remarked that race was a major reason they were voting for him.
I really liked in his speech how he recognized that many white were never decendant of slave owners & how they are offend by "your to blame" attatude of some in liberal circles.
Thanks but on the issues important to me he is on the polar opposite side. Granted of the three people I disagree with that are running he is the only one yet to insult my interest group, it is highly likely due to our resistance that he will insult us one day.
I am a Conservative Christian, small government, social conservative, spending limiting and low taxes guy. He is a polar opposite.
But I am happy with many things he said in this speech.
"The Real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."
- Felix Frankfurter -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count votes decide everything."
- Josef Stalin --
do u really think by voteing your electing your next president? the next prez is already chosen, and we the sheeple go along for the ride, driven by none other than the bankers that rule this world..
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I'm afraid I'm hideously prejudice.... against idiots, thats why I'm not voting for obama or voting for ANY democratic candidate. Didn't you people learn enough about the democratic party from George bush?
Whites are so spoiled and deluded. Tom Jefferson's 'Notes on Virginia' have filled you with so much misinfo. Centuries of being coddled have produced very fearful, unjust beings. Take your tolerance and stick it. How pathetic. Who do you think you're fooling?
I truly hope that everyone votes for the person that speaks for their own political beliefs, and is the most genuine, race and sex aside. For this to happen people would have to know what their own beliefs are, and many just don't think. I hope that we can all progress.
well said i suppose. but obama hasnt described exactly what hes going to do for change or why his change will work. in fact not one democrat has stuck to their guns and consistently explained anything, nor republicans. Theres only two candidates I've seen who DO EXPLAIN how they will institute change and make it work and thats Kucinich and Ron Paul. and Ron Paul has more support. you should look into the guy before jumping on the "change" bandwagon. just a thought. peace
HILARY!,HILARY!,HILARY! you got my ASIAN vote...Bill was president for 8years and USA was 13trilion above deficit. AND Now the canadian dollar is higher(Stupid Bush)???? Now "Who" was there influencing her hubby... That's right Hillary, for 8 years and even before that(since they met)...Do you bunch of assholes even care for you're country.!!!! ???Why are you really voting, if OBAMA wasn't black would you vote for him...????sexist assholes,why gang-up on a girl, bunch of scared clowns...
Oh my God! "black man black man" This is not a black thing...HELLO!, he's the best candidate running, that's why those people voted for him. What I have is "Race card" fatigue...
There are plenty of people who see A PERSON when they look at someone and NOT A COLOR.
Regardless who wins, the real winner, China, takes it all. None of the candidates, maybe Ron Paul excluded, understands that US economy is falling apart and war spending is driving the country south like migrant birds, but with little chance to ever go up. Americans will wake up when their bellies are empty, but then with obesity the way it is there, it will take years before they feel hungry.
I like your video but I think strongly that you are wrong. The whitest, most christian redneck will vote for barack WAY before they would support hillary. This isn't my position, just my opinion. It doesn't make sense, but the "comfort zone" wins hands down with Obama. He has eaten "tolerance fatigue" every day for breakfast since he was born. And he was made to be president.
Hillary is not Bill Clinton, that is exactly why she is bringing her husband around...trying to convince people she is just like her husband. They are not the same type of people. Bill will sit in a restaurant, and talk to the average person for hours, Hillary will make it very brief. She can not connect to an audience. Hillary is a very polarizing figure.
I'm with Obama all the way! I believe...I believe in hope.
This is great and I agree--we can do it. I'm 65 and white and will not change my mind. Just give me a chance to vote for him. I haven't been this excited since I went clean for Gene, and you are too young to get that reference.
If Obama OR Clinton wins the Democratic presidential nomination, the republicans will be ecstatic! You Americans are too bloody racist to vote for someone named BARACK Obama and to sexist to vote for a woman -- no matter how pale /butch she is.
The republicans are counting on that racism and sexism to win the election. Don't forget that the red 'neck' states put your current President into office.
I'm sorry but this is not true. I'm a Republican and I'm neither racist or sexist. I wouldn't belong to a party that was sexist or racist. I wish people would stop throwing hideous labels at others because it fits their political agenda.
And please spare me the "that's the past" rhetoric you Americans love to throw around. That type of attitude never remains in the past--it's pasted on from generation to generation.
Some may choose to hide their feelings underneath a heavy quilt but once water is thrown, it rears it's ugly head.
Just ask America's new target of hatred-- The Middle Easterners( Muslims) and the Mexicans.
There are people who harbour "ill feelings" towards their fellow citizens in every country. Again I just don't like when throw labels to a whole group people. As a whole I don't think Americans are racist or sexist.
All I have to say as a Hispanic female in America and have never been treated bad because of my gender or my ethnicity. I can only talk about my experience.
I don't think that all Americans judge racism and sexism the same way so its easy for those who don't experience overt racism or sexism (such as violent hate crime) to ignore the more subtle forms of bigotry that pervade not only our society but the world at large.
While you may not have personally experienced ill treatment, that's not the case for millions of other people treated unjustly by a prejudiced socio-economic and governmental system due to their race/sex/gender identity/etc.
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I didn't listen to this guy (I've heard this type of crap b4) but agree with your 'past' statement. America (Europe too ie. (1876 Leopold Belgium + slave trade) was built on the back of Africans (riches, industry, culture)and haven't paid for any of it yet - historical tradition (Israel). Hispanics don't get it (most are illegal). It's about blacks, not hispanics, asians, jews, etc. Of course he wants us to forget about it all. Americans are stupid and uninformed.
Your title said it all - I listened afterwards. Look up the definition of tolerate, no equality at all in tolerate. Most of your simpleminded posters don't have my level of understanding.
You condescendingly pointed out that America was founded on racist/sexist/classist ideals, but what place wasn't? Please tell me, where is the land that prejudice forgot?
Your separation of the terms Middle Eastern, Mexican and American show no understanding that these terms overlap for a great many of us along with terms like African and Asian. America is not some great white block where everyone's identity is clear cut along color lines, so when you say "you Americans", be more specific.
Forgive my french, but how do you explain that the Iowans somehow didn't "panick" as you say. Isn't Obama american? Hasn't he shown his dedication to serving this country and making our nation a better place throughout his private and political career? Then all this is just some divisive, self-hating crap... with all respect.
I sent you a longer reply, but briefly: I don't think it's divisive at all to acknowledge that prejudice and race are still major issues, and encourage people to confront/transcend them. If anything, AVOIDING such frank discussion is what perpetuates division, in the long term. It is precisely BECAUSE Obama is a great American that we need to have this conversation.
So if Obama loses...it's because white america chickened out? - and not Obama may have said or done something that -most judged not Ok-- for instance - should he get all pro bombing runs or something.... Don't get me wrong I always think this stuff needs discussing and lots of it...but his race is not the only reason he could lose. That said I got interested in him after reading his positions...I hope folks go to his site and put the focus on the man's comittments and positions...
Me? I don't think it's possible to 'leave race out ofhte election' because it is 2007 and we may well elect our first mixed race president...that is TREMENDOUS NEWS. That is earth shaking, that is HUGE. "Leaving race out" is damn near impossible when you have all these rich white men saying "America is not ready for a black or female president"
...AND THEN you have the likes of Fox saying "Obama is so well spoken, so articulate (for a black man) He's not playing the race card--- He's not like Sharpton- He is and acceptable black man" I mean get real. "Leaving race out of it" is not possible in America. For good and bad...(I do understand the idealism from which your sentiment comes from...)
Right, I share the idealism, but I think the true mark of progress is when there's no impulse to "leave race out of it" because we are comfortable with having race in it. If we need to avoid talking about it, that in itself proves we're not over it.
The irony in the whole "race card" is that a white man played it first. I stumbled across a political cartoon circa 1860 something that depicts Abe Lincolin albeit with a Wolverine-esque devil horn hair look, playing a card with with looks like a stereotypical sambo style face on it. Which basically reinforces what Dr. Cress Welsing said ages ago "if race had not been an issue with the white man foremost it would not be an issue with the coloured man today".
@Aadonis219 played the race card? - man it was the house's deck, the house was white and the house always won... It galls me the way some butthurt pasty face dough boys (cough) Karl Rove(cough) toss that term around without shame....because it's bloody shameful.
I think the majority of America would have no problem voting for a black man. The only problem is that Obama is not the best candidate, Ron Paul is the best candidate. Obama is more presidential, and probably second best, but not the best.
@rrrconserve Ron Paul doesn't 'believe in evolution' last I heard and though we've elected many stupid people before...I hope we are past doing that thing about wanting to have beers with people.
amen brotha. hes right people. dont let another white redneck candidate from a southern state that looks like GOMER PILE(FULL METAL JACKET) win this election..imagine how different our country could have been if JFK and his brother were never murdered. Obama has a chance ppl, dnt be afraid of change..unless u want another monarch dictatorship like we have had due to BUSH for the past 8 years..
Hey J-Smoove and all the "conscious" heads? Islamic fundamentalists can make videos announcing their intentions and make it clear that they are doing it in the name of Allah, carry out those plans effectively, and then take credit and rejoice in the streets over 9/11 and the "conscious" hiphop community's response: Bush knocked down the towers. - - - But Obama can be nominated for the f%#cking Nobel peace prize while he's still a newbie Senator and you think that people are too hard on him. LOL!
d0y0uwantm0re 4 months ago
@d0y0uwantm0re
Oh gosh, another tea bagger. Do yourself a favor and get educated.
QuixoticUkulele 3 months ago
@d0y0uwantm0re the phrase "bush knocked down the towers" is not meant to be taken literally. its more about blowback; the consequences of our cutthroat, backstabbing foreign policy is more cut throats and stabbed backs. our leaders didn't crash any planes in any towers; we just provided people across the world with good reasons to hate us and the means and motivation to finally do something about it. Like how we fucked with Japan's economy, then Pearl Harbor happened. Our leaders provoked 9/11.
theoryofeverything90 2 weeks ago
Stats are great when you're sure you're right but you don't want to follow a thought to its logical conclusion. Instead, you just google some anti-Bush-isms and get all the prefabricated ideological pablum you want. I could google stats back at you that prove the opposite of your stats. But why bother? BTW, did you know Obama was nominated for the Nobel peace prize BEFORE he became President? (His name was chosen about the time it was clear he would be the democratic nominee)
d0y0uwantm0re 4 months ago
Look what savior Obama has done. He maxed out America's credit card and then took all our stuff to a pawn shop to buy scratch and wins. Meanwhile the Tea Party are the only people who have been saying "Hey we're broke" but they disagree with Obama so they're racist. EVERY media outlet but one has the same message, but the one, lone, single conservative network is "evil" because they disagree with the savior who can't pay the rent. Surely you can see that there's truth in what I'm saying.
d0y0uwantm0re 5 months ago
Here are some interesting stats that were released by the U.S. Government Printing Office (GPO):
- Bush increased government spending by 88%, Obama only by 7%.
- Under Bush, 850,000 private payroll jobs were lost. Obama's stimulus package created 1.8 million jobs in the private sector so far.
- Clinton's last budget: a $128 million surplus. Bush's last budget: a $1.4 trillion deficit. Obama brought it back down to 1.3 trillion in 2010. The 2013 estimate is 0.8 trillion.
Interesting, huh?
Tastentier 4 months ago
HAHAHA hindsight is 20/20 isn't it? Gimme a break. J-Smooth I'm a hiphop artist, radio host, etc. etc. I'm not some ignorant hillbilly, and I know that North America and Western culture overall is about 75% past racism. There's still the legitimate 2% that are redneck hillbilly scumbags, (and they are not Sarah Palin and every Christian as MTV has commanded you to believe) and then there are the other 23% of urban "social activists" who are the real racists. You just project and discriminate.
d0y0uwantm0re 5 months ago
Capitalism is destroying our country? What built our country? A person has a right to the money they earn. If somebody can earn more money, there is no reason they should be forced to give it to people who can't earn as much. I believe in charity, but I don't think it is ok for the government to take huge amounts of people's money, and give it to other people.
Also, this video makes it seem like the only reason somebody would vote against Obama is that he's black
Fashur 7 months ago
this comment is not meant to be racist in any way shape or form so do not construe it that way. but the main reason (not the only reason but the main reason) that Obama got elected president is because he is black. I say this because if you saw, almost all the black artists (from rappers to singers to actors) got behind him, even the ones who truly have no business in politics, got behind obama and told their fan base to vote for him.
busscherj 10 months ago
you can win over racism in other ways rather than just voting for a "black" man , some people just don't agree with obama , and i think people hoped a lot , obama needs to take that hope and actually do something with it
MrGoldStandard09 1 year ago
too bad we got obama in office and hes hardly doing anything because of all the opposition... capitalism is destroying our country it's time we move on to a better system.
try2openyoureyes 1 year ago
OBAMA '08 i voted for him
robbieswain 1 year ago
I wonder if this is what happened *after* Obama got elected. We carried it through the election, and then we (and President Obama) had to face up to the reality that we and our country is in some pretty deep shit. And when we as a country were forced to stare that shit in the face and realize that intelligence and idealism weren't going to make it go away and we were gonna have to shovel it, THAT'S when this tolerance fatigue starting setting in. Thoughts?
latestranger 1 year ago
I love this brother. I'm so glad he was mostly wrong about the election, but I know that there were some folks who did experience that "tolerance fatigue." I'm just glad that enough people did follow through. Yeah, historically America (migrant Europeans who have been here for a few generations) has had a pretty rough track record of dealing with the original Americans, and everyone else. I didn't have a whole bunch of faith in America either, but insha'llah over time things are changing.
Jenntasnim 1 year ago
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I HATE this guy! Obama won by a lot so you can shut up now! "Most white people are really racist inside but can't admit it to themselves" is basically what he just said. Aren't you half white?
and P.S. you're corny as hell and too dorky to talk about rap.
drsnapple 2 years ago
You realize that he made the video in January...of 2008, right?
sasmall1986 2 years ago
drsnapple
That was probably the least coherent argument I have ever read under an illdoc1 video. Everything he said has not only been documented, but studied. It has been a trend in this country that people say they will vote for one candidate based on some need to sound tolerant or socially-adjusted and then do something completely opposite. In this last election Obama was the person most likely to be victimized by this trend.
"so you can shut up now!" LOL
shubbiebaby 2 years ago
So how's that "hope and change" working out for you?
Everyone I know at work is "Hopeing" there's going to be more than "Change" in our pockets.
MIT1369 2 years ago
MIT1369: So, I take it you've been in a coma for 9 years? Man, that must suck.
yerk3 2 years ago
@yerk3
Sorry kid. I slipped the blinders off decades ago. Try it some time. This is the administration of "Hoax and Chains".
MIT1369 2 years ago
MIT1369: Talking in clichéd sound bites does not a sketpic make.
yerk3 2 years ago
@yerk3
Time to wake up and smell the humus.
MIT1369 2 years ago
MIT1963: LOL! Wow, you still can't manage to string together a sentence without resorting to some kind of quasi-racist soundbite about Middle Eastern food.
yerk3 2 years ago
@MIT1369: Hope and change is working out great, actually. The economy is on the upswing and the United States has a better standing in the global community. If the Republicans would get out of the way and let Obama do some real work, we might even have affordable health care soon.
jono11 1 year ago
Your voice sounds like Vin Diesel.. Sexy
SillyKittyKat 2 years ago
why someone black, latino, asian says someone maybe prejudice...ppl always throws their hands in the air and says, "why is it always about race".
*shaking head* you'll never really get it...right?!
take a person who is clearly qualified, talented, etc. but in your mind you devalue him, then turn around and make excuses for the inadequacy of his WHITE counterpart...what the hell would you call that?
It's about RACE because many people have already made it about race in their minds...
doctorsizzle 2 years ago
Yeah, It's always about race and race only isn't it?
It couldn't have anything to do with Obama not knowing the difference between a profit and a profit margin. Private payrolls are shrinking. Government payrolls are expanding. The government sector, which can use deadly force to achieve its goals, is growing stronger. The private sector, which cannot, is growing weaker. For those who believe that America's greatness comes from government, this would be a good thing.
BroadcastAds 2 years ago
Cold as hell?
Nice irony. ;)
snappedariana 2 years ago
he what was the song in the back
it sounded like k-os?
Shadowbrave 2 years ago
its the beatnuts
djskizmarkey 2 years ago
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How about these people didn't vote for Obama because they could tell the man has never accomplished anything except making the media fall in love with him. Which them of course makes us fall in love with him. OHHHHH come on. Remember how you like to sit around and talk about how dumb America is getting and how stupid we are all getting. Or how the media is really the front man for the evil man. Except for when they want you to vote Obama right?
Closetscholar 2 years ago
cold as hell?
i thought hell was hot
theamazingjesse 2 years ago
read Dantes inferno the (i think) 8th or 9 th ring of hell is freazing.
hence where we get the term "cold as hell"
broadkil 2 years ago
i feel bad for Obama! i don't see eye to eye with his polotics but i see a good man and a good leader. what i feel bad for him about is that he will never be seen as having won the presidentsy on his own merits but that he won it becous he is black, and that he will not go down in history as the 44th prez but as the FIRST BLACK PREZ!!!!!!!!!
jieubanks 2 years ago 2
I don't think people should vote based on race. I'm glad Obama won, not because of his race, but because of his political stance. If we vote just based on race, religion, orientation, etc, and start losing focus on the political side of... politics, then our country will be in a pile of trouble.
dulcicantor 2 years ago 2
i agree...i mean how negative are we? here you have one the only candidates NOT get himself involved in the madraking...and we fail to compliment him.
here's a guy that had the nerve to hope for better things for the states...and we say he's unrealistic.
here's a president thats doing weekly addresses, town halls, and f**** fireside chats...and you say NOT GOOD enough.
AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR. YOU FOOLS COMMITTED US TO BUSH FOR 8 f*** years! HOW DARE YOU!
doctorsizzle 2 years ago 3
nearer the beggining u sounded and looked liek Vin Diesel
MazingMafyuu 2 years ago 2
Surprise!
WE DID IT!
ijamsville97 3 years ago 10
9 months later, Obama hasn't won yet, but it looks like we're ready to live up to your hopes, Jay.
eirefrance 3 years ago
At this point, I don't see a difference in the wide scope of the area. I truly believe there is something else up with the world. The citizens of the U.S. are going down. Down as in the presidential seat doesn't mean a whole lot. Really it hasn't for ages.
silentthriller 3 years ago
Its interesting that people are assuming that you are suggesting that tolerance fatique is going to set in with the White populace only... There are plenty of Black people and others of colour who also deep down may not be ready for a President of colour. There are plenty of us who get caught up in race to the finish line and then when its down to the wire - we trip. While I hope we keep it together in the voting booth I dont reasonably expect that we will based on our history...
NativeMoon 3 years ago
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Will you let me vote for the best guy? Or do I have to vote for the black guy if I'm white?
buickgn1897 3 years ago
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As a New Yorker who lived thru Dinkins, I can tell you all...it's not tolerance fatigue. It's the realization the blacks in Power look to ONLY better each other. Apperantly blacks are the only poor people and all whites are born into money. He never did anything for poor or middleclass unless they looked like him.We thought there would be CHANGE when Dinkins came in, and all of us TOLERANT people wher dead wrong.If Obama is prez, it will be the same thing.
Curlycue138 3 years ago
What do you mean "us" tolerant people? Let's assume that Dinkins was racially biased. That's unfortunate. But to assume that if a man in power will act a certain way because he is black, is to be a bigot. But you're right, it can't be tolerance fatigue if you never had tolerance to begin with.
VioletDrow 3 years ago 3
Most ignorant statement I've read. You sir should never be taken serious again.
cupocity303 3 years ago
and you were fucking wrong racist tax cuts for the middle class
TOXIC00L 2 years ago
well said
Ebonyhime2 3 years ago 3
Some of the responses you recieved were realy nasty. My only comment is that I respect the fact that you simply replayed and old vlog that is very specific and not openly predudicial as most of the commentary has been on this issue. Your commentary is right on the mark by the way. Hopefully we will get where we need to be in my lifetime. We need more people like you to get it done.
Signed
A proud white republican
rhosey001 3 years ago 2
I think you missed the point...
shabbykins 3 years ago 2
The point I got from this is that the man understands that racism still exists but he aproaches it in a way that is not inflamatory. Those of us that ARE attemting to get past it do not perpetuate it. we "believe in Amerca" to quote his final word on the subject. I truly wish he were my next door neighbor so I could talk to him daily.
rhosey001 3 years ago 10
True. and I wish that I could talk to him too!
shabbykins 3 years ago 3
RIGHT ON!
Stay strong!
dharam108 3 years ago
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You video make no sence, fatigue of what, of you?, Well then my answer is yes, it took me just one video to realize the you're a moron!!!
palou411 3 years ago
What Rev. Wright Eats....
Doesn't Make Obama Shit!
If you Voted For Bush,
Are you Guilty By Association for all the Unnecessary Blood on His Hands????
LECLARA 3 years ago 3
Why make history just for the sake of making history! Thats a messed up rationale. I agree with you on people lying to themselves, but not in the same way you do. I've become polarized by Obama's association with a racist, and consequently have decided not to vote for him. It's not that i'm more comfortable with a white man its that I vote based on rationality not just for making histories sake.
T33T5 3 years ago
well said lol we really need to be real with our selves
broadikus 3 years ago
how he was doing the same thing to black people. "He was riding dirty."
God may forgive and forget but it seems that the good Rev. still hasn't forgiven Bill Clinton.
andmoreagain777 3 years ago
Clinton lives in Fairytale Land,
Who the Hell Believes in That?
LECLARA 3 years ago
After looking at the pictureof Bill Clinton and Rev. Wright I am reminded why these two men were meeting.
Bill Clinton was publicly repenting of his sin with Monica.
I am sure each man of the cloth recieved his repentence.
Rev. Wright obviously recieved it because it was still in his memory years later.
He even reinacted what Bill was doing and
andmoreagain777 3 years ago
Tolerance fatigue?
Tolerance of what?
SeekerNLife 3 years ago
Really liked your views, insightful and true.
Phidian 3 years ago
The comment about gomer pyle is so FUNNY.
computerpurple 3 years ago
Obama is a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Another zionist puppet in the service of israel.
Just look at his mainstream support.
Wake up ppl!!!
StrangeFroot 3 years ago
and Obama is getting fried now cause this preacher is anti-zionist...puppets go to preachers like this? So many Americans, particularly on this board, go into conspiracy theories, lunatic fringe theories...and people should really take this kind of stuff seriously?
Phidian 3 years ago
You are real and right. Thank you.
mandan949 3 years ago
Fabulous video, illdoc.
Loving criticism, man. Well done.
I'm a Canadian, so I don't get to vote for your President, but I still have to live next door to him.
I hope you vote for Obama, and I hope Diebolt doesn't change your vote.
Good luck you guys.
bruisehand 3 years ago
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I like Obama because he is a White man.
Hunterkirk 3 years ago
Well, he's as White as he is Black, so thats a fair comment.
awgu 3 years ago
I thought so, and in his last speech he as much stated so. Still saying so pisses off people whom support him. I wonder why saying the truth the he is a mix is considered so offensive.
Hunterkirk 3 years ago
Its usually considered offensive because its a prelude to some attack. For example, are you implying that blacks like him simply because of his race?
Obama is White and Black, and as a Black person, I find that comforting. That he is what, 80% of America? The man even has Asian relatives. I cannot think of a Candidate in the history of our country more reflective of its population.
awgu 3 years ago
Truth is many blacks in america are of mix linage. I guess what offends me is those whom do vote for him soully because of his race. One would hope that would not matter.
It should be about the issues and not his race black/white/or mixed. Now on the issues I disagree with him and most democrats. But his latest speech for me gave me more respect for him they I had hope for... but still the issues block me voting for him.
Hunterkirk 3 years ago
Think of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, both of them were Black, and much more "black" then Barack Obama. Both barely got ANY black people to vote for them, particularly outside of the South. blacks are voting for Barack because they like more then the colour of his skin.
As for race based voting, look, my parents were immigrants, not slave descendants, so I cannot relate completely to the slave descendant complex.
Still, I can "get it". I dont blame them for being particularly excited.
awgu 3 years ago
I just wish the breaking ground doesnt occur soully to break the ground.
You mades some good points on Sharpton and Jackson, I had not considered that. I just remember conversations I have had with a few supporters of Obama and how they remarked that race was a major reason they were voting for him.
I really liked in his speech how he recognized that many white were never decendant of slave owners & how they are offend by "your to blame" attatude of some in liberal circles.
Hunterkirk 3 years ago
I sincerly hope you change your mind and vote for Obama.
I am telling you, he will make millions of Americans more proud to be American then ever, ever, before.
awgu 3 years ago
Thanks but on the issues important to me he is on the polar opposite side. Granted of the three people I disagree with that are running he is the only one yet to insult my interest group, it is highly likely due to our resistance that he will insult us one day.
I am a Conservative Christian, small government, social conservative, spending limiting and low taxes guy. He is a polar opposite.
But I am happy with many things he said in this speech.
Hunterkirk 3 years ago
"The Real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."
- Felix Frankfurter -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count votes decide everything."
- Josef Stalin --
do u really think by voteing your electing your next president? the next prez is already chosen, and we the sheeple go along for the ride, driven by none other than the bankers that rule this world..
QuinnCassidy 3 years ago
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I'm afraid I'm hideously prejudice.... against idiots, thats why I'm not voting for obama or voting for ANY democratic candidate. Didn't you people learn enough about the democratic party from George bush?
SnowBlind853 3 years ago
Whites are so spoiled and deluded. Tom Jefferson's 'Notes on Virginia' have filled you with so much misinfo. Centuries of being coddled have produced very fearful, unjust beings. Take your tolerance and stick it. How pathetic. Who do you think you're fooling?
wrldgornd 4 years ago
I truly hope that everyone votes for the person that speaks for their own political beliefs, and is the most genuine, race and sex aside. For this to happen people would have to know what their own beliefs are, and many just don't think. I hope that we can all progress.
JesusHChristofLDS 4 years ago
Speak the truth!
rhythmsearch 4 years ago
That was great! Thanks.
reiyariele 4 years ago
Obama NOW!
Xone7 4 years ago
well said i suppose. but obama hasnt described exactly what hes going to do for change or why his change will work. in fact not one democrat has stuck to their guns and consistently explained anything, nor republicans. Theres only two candidates I've seen who DO EXPLAIN how they will institute change and make it work and thats Kucinich and Ron Paul. and Ron Paul has more support. you should look into the guy before jumping on the "change" bandwagon. just a thought. peace
nonamist 4 years ago
......well you just summed up what everyone's thinking, respect.
Xman231 4 years ago
Damn, I WAS gonna start my own blog about this, but you hit the nail on the head.
5 stars.
your awsomeness has ruined my internet blogging career.... in a good way
xdarkwing104x 4 years ago
See mine for Obama
DaddieIsh 4 years ago
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HILARY!,HILARY!,HILARY! you got my ASIAN vote...Bill was president for 8years and USA was 13trilion above deficit. AND Now the canadian dollar is higher(Stupid Bush)???? Now "Who" was there influencing her hubby... That's right Hillary, for 8 years and even before that(since they met)...Do you bunch of assholes even care for you're country.!!!! ???Why are you really voting, if OBAMA wasn't black would you vote for him...????sexist assholes,why gang-up on a girl, bunch of scared clowns...
flipside0025 4 years ago
Oh my God! "black man black man" This is not a black thing...HELLO!, he's the best candidate running, that's why those people voted for him. What I have is "Race card" fatigue...
There are plenty of people who see A PERSON when they look at someone and NOT A COLOR.
Denisehealthnut 4 years ago
Regardless who wins, the real winner, China, takes it all. None of the candidates, maybe Ron Paul excluded, understands that US economy is falling apart and war spending is driving the country south like migrant birds, but with little chance to ever go up. Americans will wake up when their bellies are empty, but then with obesity the way it is there, it will take years before they feel hungry.
flyingbird0214 4 years ago
I have Tax fatigue. Or tax and spend fatigue.
kazoobeans 4 years ago
Im not ready to vote for a man who isnt strong on positions, its KUCINICH or 3rd party for me
velcroFathoms 4 years ago
I like your video but I think strongly that you are wrong. The whitest, most christian redneck will vote for barack WAY before they would support hillary. This isn't my position, just my opinion. It doesn't make sense, but the "comfort zone" wins hands down with Obama. He has eaten "tolerance fatigue" every day for breakfast since he was born. And he was made to be president.
Flintknappingtips 4 years ago
Absolutely!
Denisehealthnut 4 years ago
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Hillary is not Bill Clinton, that is exactly why she is bringing her husband around...trying to convince people she is just like her husband. They are not the same type of people. Bill will sit in a restaurant, and talk to the average person for hours, Hillary will make it very brief. She can not connect to an audience. Hillary is a very polarizing figure.
I'm with Obama all the way! I believe...I believe in hope.
When there is no vision, there is no hope.
jennanov77 4 years ago
This is great and I agree--we can do it. I'm 65 and white and will not change my mind. Just give me a chance to vote for him. I haven't been this excited since I went clean for Gene, and you are too young to get that reference.
zendekker 4 years ago
If Obama OR Clinton wins the Democratic presidential nomination, the republicans will be ecstatic! You Americans are too bloody racist to vote for someone named BARACK Obama and to sexist to vote for a woman -- no matter how pale /butch she is.
The republicans are counting on that racism and sexism to win the election. Don't forget that the red 'neck' states put your current President into office.
MaddyMill 4 years ago
this is sad but true. although i hope that you are wrong. we need a change.
ruconscious 4 years ago
I'm sorry but this is not true. I'm a Republican and I'm neither racist or sexist. I wouldn't belong to a party that was sexist or racist. I wish people would stop throwing hideous labels at others because it fits their political agenda.
TerryAnnOnline 4 years ago
So , you're saying that no one in the Republican party or America for that matter, harbours any ill feelings towards their fellow citizens?
Surely, You Jest??!
Just because YOU'RE not a racists doesn't mean others aren't.
Gosh, your nation, lest you forget, was founded on racist, sexist, and classist ideologies.
MaddyMill 4 years ago
And please spare me the "that's the past" rhetoric you Americans love to throw around. That type of attitude never remains in the past--it's pasted on from generation to generation.
Some may choose to hide their feelings underneath a heavy quilt but once water is thrown, it rears it's ugly head.
Just ask America's new target of hatred-- The Middle Easterners( Muslims) and the Mexicans.
MaddyMill 4 years ago
There are people who harbour "ill feelings" towards their fellow citizens in every country. Again I just don't like when throw labels to a whole group people. As a whole I don't think Americans are racist or sexist.
All I have to say as a Hispanic female in America and have never been treated bad because of my gender or my ethnicity. I can only talk about my experience.
TerryAnnOnline 4 years ago
I don't think that all Americans judge racism and sexism the same way so its easy for those who don't experience overt racism or sexism (such as violent hate crime) to ignore the more subtle forms of bigotry that pervade not only our society but the world at large.
While you may not have personally experienced ill treatment, that's not the case for millions of other people treated unjustly by a prejudiced socio-economic and governmental system due to their race/sex/gender identity/etc.
CA2112 4 years ago
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I didn't listen to this guy (I've heard this type of crap b4) but agree with your 'past' statement. America (Europe too ie. (1876 Leopold Belgium + slave trade) was built on the back of Africans (riches, industry, culture)and haven't paid for any of it yet - historical tradition (Israel). Hispanics don't get it (most are illegal). It's about blacks, not hispanics, asians, jews, etc. Of course he wants us to forget about it all. Americans are stupid and uninformed.
wrldgornd 4 years ago
"I didn't listen to this guy (I've heard this type of crap b4)"
Do I need to point out what is wrong with this sentence?
illdoc1 4 years ago 2
Your title said it all - I listened afterwards. Look up the definition of tolerate, no equality at all in tolerate. Most of your simpleminded posters don't have my level of understanding.
wrldgornd 4 years ago
Most Hispanics are not illegal. I live in what was once Mexico. I do find some truth in your last sentence though.
JesusHChristofLDS 4 years ago
You condescendingly pointed out that America was founded on racist/sexist/classist ideals, but what place wasn't? Please tell me, where is the land that prejudice forgot?
Your separation of the terms Middle Eastern, Mexican and American show no understanding that these terms overlap for a great many of us along with terms like African and Asian. America is not some great white block where everyone's identity is clear cut along color lines, so when you say "you Americans", be more specific.
CA2112 4 years ago
That comment was aimed at MaddyMill even though it ended up on top for some reason.
CA2112 4 years ago
Forgive my french, but how do you explain that the Iowans somehow didn't "panick" as you say. Isn't Obama american? Hasn't he shown his dedication to serving this country and making our nation a better place throughout his private and political career? Then all this is just some divisive, self-hating crap... with all respect.
magatte 4 years ago
I sent you a longer reply, but briefly: I don't think it's divisive at all to acknowledge that prejudice and race are still major issues, and encourage people to confront/transcend them. If anything, AVOIDING such frank discussion is what perpetuates division, in the long term. It is precisely BECAUSE Obama is a great American that we need to have this conversation.
illdoc1 4 years ago
So if Obama loses...it's because white america chickened out? - and not Obama may have said or done something that -most judged not Ok-- for instance - should he get all pro bombing runs or something.... Don't get me wrong I always think this stuff needs discussing and lots of it...but his race is not the only reason he could lose. That said I got interested in him after reading his positions...I hope folks go to his site and put the focus on the man's comittments and positions...
CityzenJane 4 years ago
I agree with you, I think we should leave race out of this election, this is not 1907.
Obama for President!
Denisehealthnut 4 years ago
Me? I don't think it's possible to 'leave race out ofhte election' because it is 2007 and we may well elect our first mixed race president...that is TREMENDOUS NEWS. That is earth shaking, that is HUGE. "Leaving race out" is damn near impossible when you have all these rich white men saying "America is not ready for a black or female president"
CityzenJane 4 years ago 2
...AND THEN you have the likes of Fox saying "Obama is so well spoken, so articulate (for a black man) He's not playing the race card--- He's not like Sharpton- He is and acceptable black man" I mean get real. "Leaving race out of it" is not possible in America. For good and bad...(I do understand the idealism from which your sentiment comes from...)
CityzenJane 4 years ago 2
Right, I share the idealism, but I think the true mark of progress is when there's no impulse to "leave race out of it" because we are comfortable with having race in it. If we need to avoid talking about it, that in itself proves we're not over it.
illdoc1 4 years ago
dead on :)
CityzenJane 4 years ago
@CityzenJane
The irony in the whole "race card" is that a white man played it first. I stumbled across a political cartoon circa 1860 something that depicts Abe Lincolin albeit with a Wolverine-esque devil horn hair look, playing a card with with looks like a stereotypical sambo style face on it. Which basically reinforces what Dr. Cress Welsing said ages ago "if race had not been an issue with the white man foremost it would not be an issue with the coloured man today".
Aadonis219 1 year ago
@Aadonis219 played the race card? - man it was the house's deck, the house was white and the house always won... It galls me the way some butthurt pasty face dough boys (cough) Karl Rove(cough) toss that term around without shame....because it's bloody shameful.
CityzenJane 1 year ago
I think the majority of America would have no problem voting for a black man. The only problem is that Obama is not the best candidate, Ron Paul is the best candidate. Obama is more presidential, and probably second best, but not the best.
rrrconserve 4 years ago
Dude stop the Ron Paul aka Dr No,the guy is not electable! All i have to say is Obama 08. Fire up and i know you're ready to go!
nytquil1 4 years ago
Why stop? Take a moment and go compare Pauls positions directly to Obamas. Be honest with yourself and tell me who you think is the best candidate.
eNJayCarlos 4 years ago
Is he the guy who wants to abolish the Income tax, No thank you!
Denisehealthnut 4 years ago
@rrrconserve Ron Paul doesn't 'believe in evolution' last I heard and though we've elected many stupid people before...I hope we are past doing that thing about wanting to have beers with people.
CityzenJane 1 year ago
amen brotha. hes right people. dont let another white redneck candidate from a southern state that looks like GOMER PILE(FULL METAL JACKET) win this election..imagine how different our country could have been if JFK and his brother were never murdered. Obama has a chance ppl, dnt be afraid of change..unless u want another monarch dictatorship like we have had due to BUSH for the past 8 years..
slap2thecrib 4 years ago 2
What's with the COAT
Sickles197 4 years ago
nigga its like 0 degrees in NY
NYFinest9 4 years ago
werd n on monday its goin to 60 again
xXthaXx 4 years ago
Lol...I like you, I'd vote for you for President.
firefly4tori 4 years ago
Good stuff, Jay.
kawright55 4 years ago
Brilliant! Drop that Science! :D
ReelSolidTV 4 years ago
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why this guy always use monochromatic shading in his videos, rhis dudes white as hell, tolerance fatigue will propbably hit him first.
streetsweeper06 4 years ago
lol...what? u ain't pay your gas bill ? lol... but yea i hear u on the election
Lebanks3 4 years ago
Nice vid. Best moment was at the end - the face you made after saying, "I believe in America."
kingblast333 4 years ago 2
Thanks for keeping our heads screwed on as we go into this election, man. Another great vid. :-)
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