But if you look at it in another way, HUMANS really rule over all other races in federation, I mean they serve on our ships, in general they serve under our captains, in our uniforms, earth is center of federation, I mean cammon, it's obvious that WE RULE WITH THEM, one way or another.
@CroPETROforever Hence why in Star Trek 6, the Klingons called the Federation a Homo Sapiens only club. Still, we united the founding races of the Federation together in the 22nd century as we became the glue that binded them together plus we tended to colonize worlds the most frequently of the founding races so of course the UFP is going to be filled with humans. At least we humans treat our fellow UFP races as equals and don't oppress them.
We bascially pay off (or con them) other alien cultures to get their strag resources and use their solar sys as a base of expansive operations of Star Fleet!
Of course, the guy talking just sounds like your typical career-diplomat hack sitting in a musty bureaucrat's office in Foggy Bottom, in his pinstriped suit with Italian-leather buckle shoes, decrying the loss of intelligence in American Foreign Policy, sipping his Green Tea Latte, and arguing over whether the Russians should have 5,000 nukes or 4,999 nukes at their disposal -- without realizing in the end, the DOD is winning the war & now Postwar environment.
Playing the Federation is somehow like playing with France. This Eiffel tower really bugs me. Also this diplomacy crap: you can't declare wars without a morale punishment, your press is bitching around if you attack planetary systems and you get kicked in the ass by your ppl. when a minor race declares war. At least you're allowed to defend yourself in space battles...
I like how he said "Last Resort" instead of " only in Self Defense", but the part before that is slightly misleading. The Federation was forced to start a war against the Dominion (even though the Dominion fired the first shots), or risk losing the Alpha Quadrant in the peace as the Dominion brought more and more ships through the Bajoran Wormhole.
Don't get me wrong, though. I rather like the idea of Starfleet finding a way to return to their ideals after the dark days of the Dominion War.
Fuck you the Starfleets dawn ass hole, the humans of the only planet Earth abuse me too much, i work so hard to be Superflash a Human Space Warrior Immortal, the stupie Bastard Starfleets The Humans won't accept my Superflash Culture and my Space Culture of my people of space nation!
"We may be few, and our enemies many. Yet so long as there remains one of us still fighting, one who still rages in the name of justice and truth, than by the All Father, the galaxy shell yet know hope!" - Ragnar Blackmane, Wolf Lord.
I must admit in Star Trek empires seem to end very easily.
For Star Trek, they could easily expand more on the alternative mirror universe. It would be a great way to bring in more fans.
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Sad to know that in the 23rd and 24th centuries, mankind has lost its balls and plays bitch to an entire host of hostile species. How about Starfleet ended this Federation crap and proclaimed the Terran Empire? Now that would make Star Trek 10x better.
You really have no idea how the Federation operates, do you? The Federation is nobody's bitch... Sure the Federation prefers peace and is always quick to offer it and accept it over war, but try to attack the Federation and you'll get as good as you give... The Dominion War proved that much...
And indeed, the Federation and the Klingons were on the verge of war in Errand of Mercy untill the Organians forcibly stopped them... Kirk even tried to DEFEND the Federation's right to war with the Klingons. "We have the right..." he started to say... "To wage war, captain?" the Organian interupted him...
@SirBroadsword yeah as did the many attacks the Borg made on the Federation even the FRomulan's knew the Feds were no pushovers that's why they agreed to a neuteral zone between their borders
They agreed to the Neutral Zone arrangement because United Earth (this was prior to the founding of the Federation) and its allies kicked their asses during the Earth-Romulan war.
@SirBroadsword I know I've got the whole TV series on DVD so I know the story as I've seen it after all that's what I wassaying isn't it even then we weren't afraid of a fight if we thought it necessary
It never ceases to amaze me at how seemingly non-political, non-abrasive, even pleasant videos have a way of invoking charged, juvenile responses and outright verbal fights from youtubers.
@JoshuaH688 It's because we have PC gamers and console gamers, and if you go to console game video's they are all nice to each other and you never see a PC gamer starting a flame war, but with PC game video's like this, you always get console gamers with their low IQ's coming and posting something stupid that starts a flame war. Pc gamers are mature enough to leave well alone. Console gamers are so juvenile they have to jump in and cause problems.
@HardWarUK Are we? having been to many, many forums and discussions rooms while i wont deny that some console gamers have.... issues (but they generally dont attack unless you provoke them) PC gamers (and i am a pc gamer) also have there fair share of issues, like going out of there way to insult console gamers whenever possible or blaming console gamers for every single little issue that the PC is having in the current generation.
Err, incorrect. Jaresh Inyo was the President of the Federation period, the government of Earth is seperate. There was actually a scene that was supposed to show him using his position as Federation President to override the Earth government in declaring Martial Law, but it was cut for time.
Though I think this is miss- cannon between the spin off's and films. Its probably to give American audiences a position of supreme authority they can identify with in a plot line. Rather than another extras cast admiral.
In the DS9 Episode he certainly does not have any powers like a president of a council. Imagine Kofi Anan telling a USN Admiral to do anything....lol never mind putting even just NYC state under marshal law!
This game certainly manages to illustrate the hypocritical nature of the Federation. Always attacking, taking out colony ships, extortionate demands, etc.
That depends on your politics, I have played the game and managed to keep a balanced peace in the quadrant by being peaceful, as in...always giving money to the empires to keep them happy! Up until the Cardassians allied themselves with the Romulans against me and i was forced to ally with the Klingons! Good game but somewhat limited in choice making!
You can also play the Terran Empire and just set people on fire. There is a morale penalty if you bombard planets but if you have enough ships to nail a 300 population solar system in 3 turns, it's not too bad.
That's just because the AI was virtually copy-pasted from faction-to-faction... I had a Romulan campaign where 500 turns in the Feds and Klinks were heaving absolutely identically (I.E. Flying massive fleets of ships around the galaxy with seemingly no purpose in mind, getting blown to Hell by me whenever I ran into them)...
Sounds like this is what the United States tells the world.
Amar7605 2 months ago
ha! have you noticed that all the other intros are based on war, conquering and power?
and then of course theres the federation
nerfwarrior6349 6 months ago
@nerfwarrior6349
You know, I always feel like I'm playing the game wrong when I play as the federation because I always end up going to war with races.
CynicalVision 3 months ago
Best Star Trek game ever! ^^
25tommY85 7 months ago
Clearly Maire83, you have no interest in the game or the series, so just don't watch the videos.
CelticVictory 8 months ago 2
Just watched the ones on Romulans and Cardassians. I knew this one was going to be LAME
maire83 9 months ago 6
We are making a successor to this game.
It's called Star Trek Supremacy.
vjeko1701 11 months ago
But if you look at it in another way, HUMANS really rule over all other races in federation, I mean they serve on our ships, in general they serve under our captains, in our uniforms, earth is center of federation, I mean cammon, it's obvious that WE RULE WITH THEM, one way or another.
CroPETROforever 1 year ago
@CroPETROforever I agree it seems to me in some ways that the United Federation of Planets was just an Human Empire.
mayena 11 months ago
@CroPETROforever Even though the federation president is an alien? There are alien captains, hell one ship's crew is entirely Vulcan.
Earth is the first planet of the Federation, but aliens live there too/
rossco010 10 months ago
@CroPETROforever Hence why in Star Trek 6, the Klingons called the Federation a Homo Sapiens only club. Still, we united the founding races of the Federation together in the 22nd century as we became the glue that binded them together plus we tended to colonize worlds the most frequently of the founding races so of course the UFP is going to be filled with humans. At least we humans treat our fellow UFP races as equals and don't oppress them.
girlgarde 5 months ago
We bascially pay off (or con them) other alien cultures to get their strag resources and use their solar sys as a base of expansive operations of Star Fleet!
rangeclerk 1 year ago
Of course, the guy talking just sounds like your typical career-diplomat hack sitting in a musty bureaucrat's office in Foggy Bottom, in his pinstriped suit with Italian-leather buckle shoes, decrying the loss of intelligence in American Foreign Policy, sipping his Green Tea Latte, and arguing over whether the Russians should have 5,000 nukes or 4,999 nukes at their disposal -- without realizing in the end, the DOD is winning the war & now Postwar environment.
FOLD THE STATE DEPT INTO THE DOD!
AllTerroristsMustDie 1 year ago
@AllTerroristsMustDie In this game, I just like to KILL THINGs. "Make me mad in this game, and I'll kill you!" is my policy XD
I would make a terrible diplomat XD
GreenEarth28 1 year ago
@GreenEarth28 but an excellent klingon
kane5000 10 months ago
the game works for me in vista, but the movies don't play :(
Ironzealot7531 1 year ago
Playing the Federation is somehow like playing with France. This Eiffel tower really bugs me. Also this diplomacy crap: you can't declare wars without a morale punishment, your press is bitching around if you attack planetary systems and you get kicked in the ass by your ppl. when a minor race declares war. At least you're allowed to defend yourself in space battles...
bluerisk 1 year ago
I like how he said "Last Resort" instead of " only in Self Defense", but the part before that is slightly misleading. The Federation was forced to start a war against the Dominion (even though the Dominion fired the first shots), or risk losing the Alpha Quadrant in the peace as the Dominion brought more and more ships through the Bajoran Wormhole.
Don't get me wrong, though. I rather like the idea of Starfleet finding a way to return to their ideals after the dark days of the Dominion War.
AlchemistiD 1 year ago
i tell ya the intros to each factions were actually genius
straight to the point on what the faction is about and good advice on how to advance and play each one in the campaign
crackshack2 1 year ago
There should have been a borg intro to this game.
pytko3 1 year ago
JoshuaH688, you took the words right off my mouth
Rash7904 1 year ago
Fuck you the Starfleets dawn ass hole, the humans of the only planet Earth abuse me too much, i work so hard to be Superflash a Human Space Warrior Immortal, the stupie Bastard Starfleets The Humans won't accept my Superflash Culture and my Space Culture of my people of space nation!
sanathesuperflash 2 years ago
Every empire but one.
The Imperium of Man endures for all eternity!
"We may be few, and our enemies many. Yet so long as there remains one of us still fighting, one who still rages in the name of justice and truth, than by the All Father, the galaxy shell yet know hope!" - Ragnar Blackmane, Wolf Lord.
I must admit in Star Trek empires seem to end very easily.
For Star Trek, they could easily expand more on the alternative mirror universe. It would be a great way to bring in more fans.
BrotherTanthius 2 years ago
@BrotherTanthius That would be because in history, all empires have ended. They all fall eventually.
EmperorofCartoons 11 months ago
Because it would share the fate of every empire: it will fal l- sooner or later
ClemensIII 2 years ago 3
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Sad to know that in the 23rd and 24th centuries, mankind has lost its balls and plays bitch to an entire host of hostile species. How about Starfleet ended this Federation crap and proclaimed the Terran Empire? Now that would make Star Trek 10x better.
ImperatorDerGalaxis 2 years ago
@ImperatorDerGalaxis
You really have no idea how the Federation operates, do you? The Federation is nobody's bitch... Sure the Federation prefers peace and is always quick to offer it and accept it over war, but try to attack the Federation and you'll get as good as you give... The Dominion War proved that much...
SirBroadsword 1 year ago
@SirBroadsword
And indeed, the Federation and the Klingons were on the verge of war in Errand of Mercy untill the Organians forcibly stopped them... Kirk even tried to DEFEND the Federation's right to war with the Klingons. "We have the right..." he started to say... "To wage war, captain?" the Organian interupted him...
SirBroadsword 1 year ago
@SirBroadsword yeah as did the many attacks the Borg made on the Federation even the FRomulan's knew the Feds were no pushovers that's why they agreed to a neuteral zone between their borders
sjsharp2007 1 year ago
@sjsharp2007
They agreed to the Neutral Zone arrangement because United Earth (this was prior to the founding of the Federation) and its allies kicked their asses during the Earth-Romulan war.
SirBroadsword 1 year ago
@SirBroadsword I know I've got the whole TV series on DVD so I know the story as I've seen it after all that's what I wassaying isn't it even then we weren't afraid of a fight if we thought it necessary
sjsharp2007 1 year ago
While I like the Romulans the best as far as their morals and decisions, whenever I play a game, I always act most like the federation.
vidgami46 2 years ago
It never ceases to amaze me at how seemingly non-political, non-abrasive, even pleasant videos have a way of invoking charged, juvenile responses and outright verbal fights from youtubers.
JoshuaH688 2 years ago 52
@JoshuaH688 Because it is the human nature: it will destroy us, or it will let us conquer the universe.
bluerisk 1 year ago
@JoshuaH688 It's because we have PC gamers and console gamers, and if you go to console game video's they are all nice to each other and you never see a PC gamer starting a flame war, but with PC game video's like this, you always get console gamers with their low IQ's coming and posting something stupid that starts a flame war. Pc gamers are mature enough to leave well alone. Console gamers are so juvenile they have to jump in and cause problems.
HardWarUK 1 year ago
@HardWarUK Are we? having been to many, many forums and discussions rooms while i wont deny that some console gamers have.... issues (but they generally dont attack unless you provoke them) PC gamers (and i am a pc gamer) also have there fair share of issues, like going out of there way to insult console gamers whenever possible or blaming console gamers for every single little issue that the PC is having in the current generation.
FrostFireCarbine 1 year ago
K thnx 4 the warning.
bentbob09 2 years ago
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Hey fucktard i only wanted to find out what u meant by the that.
bentbob09 2 years ago
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U didn't pay attention did ya "we attack only as a LAST RESORT" DUH.
bentbob09 2 years ago
In what way?
bentbob09 2 years ago
come on...Red Foreman is the President of the United Federation of Planets
altec633a 2 years ago 3
it is true that the UFP has a president don`t it?
2226153 3 years ago
Yes and he is not necessarily human
Wraith23 3 years ago
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Wrong. Federation council works just like the UN even the logo is similar. There is no president of the UN? There is no president of the federation.
I think you are getting confused with those episodes of DS9 on earth which showed the president of earth and he was a alien.
CmdrTobs 3 years ago
There is a president of the UN, its called "President of the United Nations General Assembly".
The UFP does have a president, his title is "President of the United Federation of Planets", the one we saw in DS9 was Jaresh-Inyo.
There have been many more UFP presidents in the canon star trek novels.
Wraith23 3 years ago 3
I don't know about the novels so I guess there is:) Just be clear the guy in the DS9 episode was only the president of earth only.
The UNA is only part of the UN. The position you mention is not the same thing as the tile "President" on it's own.
And it's DEFINITELY not the sort of President 2226153 was talking about.
In fact if anyone is "President" as most people understand the political title it's gonna be the Secretary General, the position Kofi Anan had.
CmdrTobs 3 years ago
Err, incorrect. Jaresh Inyo was the President of the Federation period, the government of Earth is seperate. There was actually a scene that was supposed to show him using his position as Federation President to override the Earth government in declaring Martial Law, but it was cut for time.
olbyr 2 years ago 2
Well there you go.
Though I think this is miss- cannon between the spin off's and films. Its probably to give American audiences a position of supreme authority they can identify with in a plot line. Rather than another extras cast admiral.
In the DS9 Episode he certainly does not have any powers like a president of a council. Imagine Kofi Anan telling a USN Admiral to do anything....lol never mind putting even just NYC state under marshal law!
CmdrTobs 2 years ago
Yeah, the Seal behind his desk even says the "Office of the President - United Federation of Planets"
Plus there was a president shown in the 6th movie.
Tuskin38 2 years ago 3
The things writers do for the American audience.
CmdrTobs 2 years ago
Yes elected from the Federation council .. (similar to a senate of the member races)
horusrage 2 years ago
This game certainly manages to illustrate the hypocritical nature of the Federation. Always attacking, taking out colony ships, extortionate demands, etc.
BromidicCompound 3 years ago 5
That depends on your politics, I have played the game and managed to keep a balanced peace in the quadrant by being peaceful, as in...always giving money to the empires to keep them happy! Up until the Cardassians allied themselves with the Romulans against me and i was forced to ally with the Klingons! Good game but somewhat limited in choice making!
brav0wing 3 years ago
...just like in reality.
How many options do we really have, for instance, on the Iran?
You can't live in peace if your neighbour don't let you.
bluerisk 3 years ago
You can also play the Terran Empire and just set people on fire. There is a morale penalty if you bombard planets but if you have enough ships to nail a 300 population solar system in 3 turns, it's not too bad.
Taospark 2 years ago
@BromidicCompound
That's just because the AI was virtually copy-pasted from faction-to-faction... I had a Romulan campaign where 500 turns in the Feds and Klinks were heaving absolutely identically (I.E. Flying massive fleets of ships around the galaxy with seemingly no purpose in mind, getting blown to Hell by me whenever I ran into them)...
SirBroadsword 1 year ago
our ship's not intended to STAR WARS
Jafuet 3 years ago 6
Well.. i'm win of the borgs on the impossible mode, just make 150 scients vessels! Hahaha too funny
USSCessna 3 years ago
too bad it dont let you play as the borg :D
aarshaar 3 years ago 2
SEQUEL, SEQUEL, SEQUEL, SEQUEL!
RichGilly 4 years ago 35
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I hope there is more!
mandrake2273 4 years ago 4
botf was such a great game
interfilly 4 years ago 8
Is!
I'm still playing it. It's aged, but I love the fighting modus.
In reality no admiral is doing micro-mangament, like in the game he/she is giving out orders.
It's time for a sequel.
bluerisk 4 years ago 5
Sequels are already in progress. They're called Star Trek: Allegiance, Star Trek: Supremacy and Birth of the empires.
FekLeyrTarg 3 years ago 3
nice
archersangel1 4 years ago