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  • This is just a dispute between the parents. Divorce brings out the worst in people. The child is Jewish and shouldn't be forced into a different religion against the wishes of it's primary carer. As Cenk said - would the reaction have been different if it was being forced into a Mosque?

  • God has no religion.

  • @SuperAktol You shouldn't be so hard on the judge he was just trying to do his job.

  • If this case is brought before a jury I would predict the odds of conviction at somewhere between 0 and -1. If this case is brought before a judge I would put the odds of a conviction at 1 in 4. If there is a conviction I would put the odds of being overturned on appeal at 99%.

    Judge Goldfarb said,

    "he can take Ela to church during his visitation time if he so chooses"

    This was a family court that unconstitutionally encroached on religious freedom, and the public was outraged. That's all.

  • In my opinion. Religion is a waste of time. It's horrible and causes many problems.  God is good. Love God but destroy the man made religion.

  • this kind of thing happens every day in the corrupt family courts.  That judge should be drawn and quartered.

  • @eyallev

    They never signed a contract, it was based on a promise, and you can't prove that the father gave up something big. Mabye he just didn't care at the time. There was no legal document, you're just making assumptions and jumping to conclusion

  • wrong his time.

    the mother and father had an agreement. you don't know what the mother gave up for that agreement, but obviuosly it had to be something big, for the father to give up his religion from his kid (could be something like a reduced monthly pay, or maybe she gave up her rights for the house, or something).

    that is why the jugde rulled in her favour, because the father was breaking the contract they signed.

    the father USED his kid to attack the mother.

  • kids, in my opinion, should not be baptized until 16-18. this way they have a choice, and nobody can get pissed off.

  • @HopeAngel777 yes, but what if they die before they reach that age? they might burn in hell forever, can you live with yourself knowing that you could have saved them?

    jk, ofcourse, you are right. however, baptizing your kids is part of the culture/religion, so in a way, you are telling someone that he can't practise his religion, because ..... baptizing doesn't really hurt the kid, so why not (or at least, it doesn't hurt them, any more than having thier ears pirced).

  • @eyallev lol ok, i can give you that one :) instead of jumping down my neck, you made a good point

  • Arrest any and all parents who take or allow their children to go to church until they are 18.

  • Religion, dividing people for 3000 years.

  • See how much nonsensical bullshit religion can start? 

  • lets remember that the catholic church has been killing jews for the thousand years and fucking children for as long as anyone can remember..

    mother did carry child in her womb for the first nine months so should have some say.. especially if father agreed jewish thing...

  • the mom said they said they agreed to raise her under one faith and now she is prosecuting him for breaking the promise ? didnt she promise til death do us part ? every marriage ceremony i have been to both bride and groom say that.. but she now says no its ok to break that promise , but not the other ? get real ..either honor what you said or leave the guy alone..you broke your promise and THAT is OK ?..but the other is not ?

  • In a just world NO ONE would take children to ANY form of church.

    But you know what I hope?

    That that girl grows up to be an atheist. XD

  • More proof that religious people are fucking stupid!

  • @Daisy4Loka go fuck yourself

  • neither of the parents should be pushing their religion on their child. they should let her decide wen shes old enough.

  • they need an atheist judge for the new case clearly. the only person who will be objective.

  • Why should it be legal to baptize a minor anyway?

  • That judge should be fired. What country does that judge think he lives in?

  • @urantivirus what does the country have to do with anything?

  • unff, the way her boobs jiggle, please dont hate me for this.

  • The wife won the case because she "had a big ol' beautiful jewish nose, and it's there two minutes early, wherever she goes."

  • Baptism doesn't leave permanent water marks on the child.

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  • What the freaking crap! This shouldn't be possible in America. I don't agree with the catholic faith at all, but DUDE! A restraining order?! Whoever made that needs to goto jail and also deserves to be smacked in the face. With a stop sign.

  • What idiot set up the restraining order? What a ridiculous case.

  • We will have paradise when Atheists take over! China, USSR, Cuba, Mexico, and Venezuela were Socialist paradise until religion messed everything up!

    Revolutionary Holocaust!!!!

  • Be ready for His time draws near! Find salvation from Jesus Christ!!!

  • This has nothing to do with freedom of religion. This is a family dispute. period. It should be decided in court. What would happen if a Catholic married a Muslim and they separate. Same fucking shit. Who gets custody? It is only that, an argument of who gets custody, and not bullshit idiots screaming "Freedom of Religion". Does Freedom of Religion only apply to Catholics or Protestants? What crapola.

  • Only few American try to bring America away from GOD and way more American love GOD and American DO NOTHING that makes America now!

  • I'd don't personally beleive in any religion, but agree that freedom of religion applies equally to all Americans.

    Let the kid decide whether or not she wants to be Jewish, Catholic, or Buddhist. Exposing a child to different religious beliefs can lead to tolerance for those who believe differently than you do and an open mind.

  • little kids/children have rights to be baptized! i am christian and my 2 year old cousin was baptized it dosnt matter gosh!

  • @buddie1489 Little kids have the right to not be Christian too. Look at the situation, this has nothing to do with the child being Christian or Jewish. It is just a Family dispute that should be resolved in the court. Custody of the Child is on the line here. And what if the Courts decide that the girl should be in the custody of the Mother?

  • soo...where is this america that people call?...people keep saying it's in the united states....though...the 1st amendment FREEdom of Religion......well obama is destroying this so called us of a

  • well i am catholic and proud of it i may not got to mass evry single sunday but most sundays and i think that she should be aloud to go anywhere the child wants whaen she is under the parents care then they take her there its up to the child she will eventually make here mind up but i live in ireland which has like no jews so since i dont meet them i dont like them or prodestants

  • @frankq751 well u shouldnt dislike them because of thier religion

  • @aurkomaitra well thats wat i think i dont like them

  • @frankq751 I mean u shouldnt dislike them coz of thier religion coz like u said u havent met any

  • @aurkomaitra yea suppose ur right

  • she should have married a jewish man then

  • You can be as set in your ways all you want. Judaism allows for the person to find their own path. The girl can easily choose her own religion later on. Not if she is baptized though thats a brand of that religion.

    We do have freedom of religion but, they had a verbal contract. No matter what you say they agreed on the raising of that child in that manor. They would both have to agree on any other path. This is like saying the mother should run of with the daughter and not be sought after.

  • @cameronmullins So if a verbal contract is binding, how much more a written contract like Marriage. If the written contract can be broken why not the verbal. It is a weak double standard. Baptizing a child does not make a follower of Christ let alone a follower of God through Judiasm. I am sure the child in years to come will make her own choice. Rather than living and let live for the well being of the child, these two people hate each other and are using the child to club the other.

  • @Halvey8 Yes but to null a contractual marriage you need to go to a court and actually have a judge dissolve the relationship. The wife should have done the same but she did not. So in fact she could be held for damages for the fucking up of the child. Hell I think all religion should be tossed out of the county but it will not ever be done. So instead of saying live and let live you have basically argued for what has sparked many wars over the past well existence of religions.

  • @cameronmullins Trying to connect the dots here!? Parents hating each other using belief systems imposed upon their child to beat on each other..to..toss all religion out & I am arguing for wars!! Wow! Quite the leap! The freedom you have today through our laws is founded in, comes from Judeo-Christian philosophy and belief. Not all truth is equal. Perhaps the suppression of Islam or Hitlerism would be the better choice or for you just "a law unto yourself". "Toss all out" sounds like hatred

  • You don't convert to Judaism.

  • @ScaryEskimo if you can judge all Christians by one man or things that happend long ago I can judge you by Joseph Stalin or king Henry who persecuted Jews and raised taxes unreasonably high I can judge you by all the idiot athiests I met

  • This is ridiculous... This is why children of christian parents shouldnt be called christian, or why children of jewish parents shouldnt be call jewish. Children are CHILDREN!! And when they are old enough to make the decision of their faith, THEY WILL MAKE THE DECISION! Labeling children as such is simply unethical.

  • "can you imagine if he was muslim? ha, he'd be in Guantanamo bay right now"

    I fucking LOLed, the whole library I am in now heard me!!

  • replace catholic and jewish with republican or socialist, if you think this is different and that you're crossing the line now, you're making a double standard and you're a bigot. but, (freedom of religion), so LET HIM GOOOOOO

  • Didn't All in the Family do an episode like this?

  • @coolipy

    Yawn.

  • @coolipy It's okay, I'm sure most atheists would think you were a cunt too.

  • @coolipy ditto

  • @coolipy by that I mean I am an atheist and you disguse me

  • @coolipy how long do we have to wait til that happens.

  • @coolipy fist "Christianity Is The Way Forward." lol google the dark ages please!!

    You say wait for judgment day, im not sure if your talking about the end of the world or just each of our deaths is our own judgment day. I say wait until your death, there is going to be a moment right before the end were you will realize there is nothing and that you have wasted your life, I just hope your last moments are not filled with panic because you were to afraid to face the true, there is no afterlife.

  • @coolipy Christianity disgusts us. Wars in the name of a god that doesn't exist. A pope that covers for his priests that sexually molest and rape little boys. Not to mention circumcision! You're a fuckin retard. Go educate yourself you mongoloid.

  • Talmud

    When a Jew murders Gentile, there is no death penalty. What a Jew steals from Gentile he may keep (Sanhedrin 57a)

    All Gentile children are animals (Yebamoth 98a)

    If Jew is tempted to do evil, he should do evil (Moed Kattan 17a)

    If Gentile hits Jew, Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is same as hitting God (Sanhedrin 58b)

    Jews may use lies to circumvent a Gentile (Baba Kamma 113a)

    Jew need not pay a Gentile any wages (Sanhedrin 57a)

    Goyim are boiled in hot excrement in hell (Erubin 21b)

  • Religion. It makes people freak out about dribbling water on a kid's head.

  • How bout this... shes fucking 3 she has no concept of what faith she is going to be

    Her dumb ass parents shouldnt be trying to decide for her

    Just another reason why I hate religion..

  • @boricuamm707 Plus, if shes taught religion all through her childhood, shes never going to be able to make her own choice in what she believes in, because subconsiously, its always there.

  • @boricuamm707 I agree. My parents are both Christian but raised me and my older sister without religion- I am now an atheist and my sister is agnostic. Really, I think religious people who know how illogical religion is are the ones who force it on children at a young age- now that I'm 15 there's no way I could ever believe in the fallacies of religion, if I was taught it at 3 I'd probably be believing in the tooth fairy by now.

  • @JermzzzyFTW

    So now your parents are both illogical believing in a illogical religion, you must be very proud of yourself and know this

    Philippians 2:10-12

    10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

    11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    this my dear lost friend incl. you and your sister, you can do it now or later but bow you will

  • Hmm, I can see why some people might think taking your kid to a Catholic Priest might be considered child abuse, just the same as letting a Mohel visit your child.

  • Athiesm ≠ the answer to conflict.

    I hope she grows up to what she TRULY believes.

  • @F14Shado And what does a 3 year old girl believe about the origin of the universe?

  • And all the while he's in jail he will still be obligated to pay child support. If he fails to do so he will be further punished. And, consider the consequences should the wife prevail...could he be arrested for buying his daughter a Christmas gift? What are be becoming as a society where two parents cannot raise a little girl without government &/or judicial intervention. I have not seen my sons in almost four years because of the lies and legal manipulations of my hyper religious ex wife.

  • A restraining order!!!!

    Yet more proof that fathers have no rights any more.

  • All the guy did was let some dude in a robe sprinkle some water on the kid's head. How is that, at all, a crime?

  • wasnt there something a long time ago about how the gov. wanted to seperate church and state wtf

  • @Duaney211987 You're alluding to something Jefferson said in a letter to some Danbury Baptists. The same guy who as a legislator and then as President did everything from support laws against witchcraft, sodomy, and Sabbath breaking, to designating government funds to support building Catholic churches and schools for Native American Indians.

  • you people suck

  • LOL I can see the divorce settlement. She took my car my kids my house and my church! Barkeep keep that jagermeister coming.

  • oh he went to afghanistan did he?? hmm, what does the bible say about killing people.... let me think....

  • @SingHouse the Bible says to kill those who fall away, worship other gods, or just piss god off.

  • Her parents can take her to any form of religious organisation. In the end she is the one who is going to make the decision to follow a particular faith or no-faith at all. It is as simple as that! Parents should tell their kids what they believe. But they should also allow them to be exposed to the information of other faiths as well which they are inevitably going to when they grow up!

  • That's why traditionally you don't marry or even breed with those outside your faith. And here is one example.

  • its not the parents choice what the kid believes in they should make there own choice and not be told how things are but shown the different options so they can eventually make there own decision

  • @konabiker9 Go to a daycare or a park and tell that to the kids parents and come back and see what they will tell you.

  • Both parents should be i n jail for infecting their kid with this mind virus

  • 3.19 LOL

  • Religion aside, he did violate a court order. The arrest is just.

  • I assume their marriage had also a verbal contract for life, but that Jew women was ok with breaking that one.

  • let the child be exposed to both religons then let her make the choice when she is older she may not even have either of those views

  • if i'm honest i'm with dawkins, you cant make a child have any faith

    still

    lett'im go

  • fubar

  • The Constitution guarantees freedom of religion. So by forcing your children to convert to your religion, you're denying them that freedom.

  • @MetalSmasherGaming contradiction.

  • @MetalSmasherGaming

    Parents "force" thier child to do many things that would/could be considered illgal if they were adults...crazy thing is they are not adults, the parent is in charge, and the parents are responsible for them and their well being.

  • @mlking213 You cannot force faith onto anyone. They arent dogs. Kids should have their freedom of religious discovery. Just because they are kids doesnt mean they should be 100% controlled on a leash with a muzzle and forced to believe what everyone else does.

  • @AmusingYeti

    The world doesnt work that way...and never will. Children do what their parents say even if you or I believe in what they're making them do is right or not. For the most part as long it isn't considered emotional abuse or physical parents are allowed to do what they want.

    And at 18 if you hate the way your parents treat you you have the full option to leave but, most people do not so....

  • @AmusingYeti Well, like I told the other guy, go to a park, school and tell that to the kids parents and see what they tell you. They have the right to how they want to raise the child to the best of their abilities and is their responsibility not yours! this is not Communist China on telling you how to raise a family. Are you going to complaint on why a parent is being over protective with their child's curfew, who they hang with and were they go?

  • @cartel0025 You clearly misread my post. Im solely talking about religious beliefs. Since when did curfews come into this? Parents obviously should control their kids curfew time etc... but they cannot force a child to believe in a religion just because they do. They should give the child the choice to believe in what they wish to. You cannot force faith onto people its rediculous. Say if i came over to you and said "Im forcing you to believe in this" You would tell me to get lost.

  • @AmusingYeti Yes, I may have mistook it for something else. But regardless parents will continue to do so complicating matters whether be religion, political and customs when the parents split.

  • Gotta love religious compromise. Good thing the pope now says there is no Limbo for un-babtised babies.

  • I think deciding a child's religion for him or her is absurd in a country that presses the importance of religious freedom, but he went against a court order. A particularly iffy court order which infringed upon an inalienable right or two, but he went against it.

  • he violated a restraining order, that's why he was arrested. it has nothing to do with the church, though no child should be allowed to go to church, they're too young to make a logical decision and may not understand the violent thins that churches like to preach about, + most religious leaders are absolutely insane and like touching young children....

  • nobody should be allowed to force thier children to go to church. or a synagogue. or a mosque. or temples or shrines. or get baptised, circumsized, or have thier thetan levels tested. wait until the kids are old enough to make thier own decisions. wait till you kids don't believe in santa and then see if they want to believe in satan.

  • Atheist power!!!

  • @mephesh If I wanted to hear from a sphincter, I would have farted.

  • @mephesh SO THAT THEY CAN THEN BE BIASED AGAINST ALL RELGIONS

  • Looks like keanu :P

  • luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul

  • This father has the same rights as the anti-God mother!

    This shows why mixing religions in a marriage should be illegal because it makes both parents hypocrites.

    Baptising babies is NOT supported by the Bible and is more catholic superstition!

  • @jimbritttn right on man damn catholics. when will they learn. thier way of worshiping a 2000 year old carpenter is wrong and they are gonna go straight to hell.

  • This father has the same rights as the anti-God mother!

    This shows why mixing religions in a marriage should be illegal because it makes both parents hypocrites.

  • It's water on a babies head for &*$# sake! How is the law system even allowed to choose which religion a baby will be growing up with?

    What's wrong with Americans, just ditch religion. We Europeans have ditched for 30 years already.

  • @crimron Ha most of your population is going Muslim.

  • Kids these days are too smart and have WAY too many resources to keep believing these bronze age myths. The internet killed god. 

  • Wouldn't it be nice is all judges were athiests, that way we can be sure they view the laws of our country above all.

  • @WesSideCali Not really; you never know how a person would act when they've been given some sort of power.

  • @lukegreen37 corruption through power is universal

  • @WesSideCali Exactly; everyone is suspect unless proven otherwise. 

  • @lukegreen37 dontyou mean innocent until proven guilty? because thats kinda the law :\

  • @WesSideCali amen to that! (scuze the pun)

  • @WesSideCali no it wouldnt be at all almost every religion has some bad seeds that made the whole religion look bad but their are a few good ones and just like religions there are some bad atheist who really dont care and probably wouldnt think twice about sending him to jail just so they could say wheres your God now

  • Keep all the kids out of church. That's cruel and unusal punishment.

    Besides, kids know the emperor is buck naked. There is no boogie man in the sky.

  • separation of church and state. the judge had no right to say weather or not a man can bring his own child to church. Thats horseshit!!!!!!!

  • Don't appreciate the tagged-on annotation at the end for "Christians praying for people to die." Nothing to do with this clip besides the word "Christian." I'd like to see a little more balance toward Christians in the future. Just saying "not all Christians are like this" just isn't enough when this is your only clip that even remotely seems neutral toward Christians.

  • Fathers have no rights at all anymore, even to expose a kid to their religion. Religion is not passed mitochondrially.

  • she looks amazing in that tank top!!!!!!

  • @boxerjeep

    The tank top needs a baptism like in a wet T-shirt contest, but maybe the Jewish judge would rule against the baptism of tank tops..! =)

  • ;;;;;

  • Religion is the best comidy.

  • why the fuck would you pour water on your baby in the first place? dont raise your child using religion. raise them teaching them right from wrong. seriously. my father brought me to church when i was 9 (he was christian) but my mom told me beforehand to try to think for myself and not to follow it blindly and if i had questions about things i could ask her (she was an atheist). my brother hid every sunday. from then on i hid with him. church scared me.

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  • where is all the stupid comments about arabs, muslims, asian or other immigrant groups???

    if this was anyone of the above groups there would be so much attention to it and saying they are keeping kids away from Church and Jeaus.

  • u cant force what u feel on ur kids...

  • @ryanspire but you can teach them what you know

  • @genevite33 how is it what u know if its not a fact??? then its just what u think u know

  • @ryanspire, well whats your fact? you must believe something.

  • @genevite33 no facts, just opinions

  • @ryanspire do you believe that your opinions are true relative to your personal perspective?

  • i think he dad was just being a jerk.

    .

    he just mad because his wife left him. at the being of the relationship he agree that he will raise their children to be jewish..

    .

    and to the jewish faith it is important for their children to be jewish.

    .

    she would not had marry him if he did not agree..

    .

    he is being an ass hole! he is not even a religious person. he need to be jail!!

    and no i am not jewish.

  • If you go ahead with this ruling, you should keep all children from going to any kind of church, mosque, synagogue, etc., until they turn 18, in order to protect them from being indoctrinated until they can choose to do it by themselves.

  • My thoughts are that the judge overstepped the seperation of church and state by ruling on the matter at all.

  • This is why religion is pointless

  • @Ktwonnn I dont think religion is pointless

  • @xboxanditouchpro

    There is no point to believe in stupid fairy tales I'm atheist and im perfectly happy 24/7 i dont need a god do make me happy.

  • @Ktwonnn they are not fairy tales

  • @Ktwonnn i mean religion is not fairy tales

  • @xboxanditouchpro so true... its more like a syfy original series

  • Maybe she should choose her own religion when she grows up, and is old enough to understand religion......

    Not have it forced on her by her parents.

    I thought religion was something you chose not something you got court ordered into doing.

  • He should go to jail, here's y. While the judgment may have been wrong it was still made and insteed of getting it repealed he chose to break this restraining order illegally knowing it was illegal he even brought a camera crew. So I think the judgment at first was wrong but I think this guy needs to realize that u can't just brake laws if u don't like them.

  • honestly i don't know why they want her to be exposed to any religion at 3, when she clearly doesn't understand or care about any religion.

    do you remember having a connection to god when you were a toddler?

  • assault?!

    next ur gonna tell me some1's gonna sue god

    (already done)

    a woman sued god for 100k for not being careful when lightning struck her house she won cuz god failed to show up in court

  • was court rly nessicary???

  • @propertyofBigG4ever

    nah i say if every 1 sues some1 else cuz of religion the whole world will b ded in a few days or something

  • @youssef25600 exactly!!

    they shouldve just talked it out instead of makin such a huge deal about it=/

  • Why not let the daughter grow up and make her own choices pertaining to religion?

  • Okay, here's the thing: There was no contract on whether or not the daughter was to be Jewish or Catholic, correct? Why was the restraining order even set to begin with? What, exactly, is the harm in have your daughter baptized? Was the restraining order set by the same Jewish Judge? If so, then yes, I do believe there to be some sort of predisposition from the start.

  • i agree with ana. there was no contract signed saying the daughter must be raised Jewish. let him bring her to church

  • PEOPLE ARE STUUUUUUUPPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII­IIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • The kids three you could tell her the cookie monster created the world out of chocolate chips and she'd believe it let the ki make up her own mind when shes old enough to have developed a b/s detector

  • Great. Another couple fucking up the life of their kid. What's wrong with you idiot reliigous nuts?

  • @BoyintheMachine There's wrong also with idiots who aren't religious.

    There are excesses with both. Let's not make blanket statements.

  • we should raise all kids atheist until they can have the right to choose there own religion, if they want