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  • This Ain't Even Something Y'all Should Think Of ...IKON THE VERBAL HOLOGRAM THE GREATEST OF ALL RAPPAS

    A.K.A VINNIE PAZ

  • there is no competition stay up vinnie paz

  • Vinnie takes his hyper-aggressive rhymes to levels of absurdity, while Tech always has a concise message. Tech>Vinnie

  • they're both my fav rappers of all time, and one of my role models haha, it's hard to decide, but vinnie and JMT have been around longer, and Immortal Tech reaches out to the world because of his political lyrics. Hard to decide

  • Why would you put a picture of Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell... If you're playing songs that aren't from that album?

  • Immortal Technique - Black Vikings ft. Vinnie Paz ... BEAST !!!

  • whats the name of the songs that start in 8:27 and 8:50

  • PAZ

  • they are as good as eachother lyrically but both have a unique spark that makes them as sick as they are and vinnies flow and straight up mad content clicks with me more cos matches ma fuked up mind but immortal is flawless to...... put it this way tho both beat lil wayne lol

  • M tech all day..!

  • @Jfye101 JMT - Exertions Remix ft Virtuoso and Esoteric

  • I'm curious what comments that lil wayne has on these to monsters!

  • I wish they could record a cd together, my life wouldve been completed

  • Fucc yall comments if u think Vinnie Paz is better than tech., tech is always better niggaz!!

  • los 2 son mui buenos no hai conparacion pero me qedo con immortal technique

  • i who have nothing is on psycho social... ?

  • Immotal Tech !!!! but i got mad Love for both

  • You cant compare them. Immortal technique is deeper with lyrics and more mellow, but also aggressive at the same time. Vinnie, is deep but a lot more aggressive and has grittier with lyrics. Its more preference, because both are amazing.

  • Immortal technique fuckin rapes vinnie paz. comparing vinnie to tech is like comparing a landfill of shit to a garden of roses

  • @swifer616 they are both great

  • @tattoocream It would be bad ass to see them both man

  • @swifer616 dude watch your mouth both of them are bad asses respect vinnie paz man

  • @1992Bombardero he's overrated.... reef the lost cauze, apathy, celph, and planetary fucking smash him on every aotp album. and IT is in top 5 of all time in my opinion so ya comparing both of them together is a joke

  • @swifer616 sure man

  • @1992Bombardero somebody hasnt heard VBD eh..

  • @itchin4scratches what do mean?

    

  • @1992Bombardero oh i meant the person you were talking to probably hasnt heard the violent by design album by jedi mind tricks

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  • @MegaMarsh13 what?

  • They are both great rappers and I guess it just comes down to a matter or personal opinion. I give it to Vinnie Paz i like his flow, delivery, content, etc. Plus I don't feel that Immortal Technique can rap on par with Vinnie's The Psycho-Social, Chemical, Biological & Electro-Magnetic Manipulation of Human Consciousness shit. Bigs ups to both of them though.

  • WRONG TITLE, fail

  • Vinnie Paz all the way, Tech is good but Vinnie Paz gots sicker beats and deeper Lyrics.

  • @ssteigler

    ur a fucking idiot. paz is too repeatative.. anyone who's been listening to ikon since the 90's would agree.

  • @12sBiCePs ikon the verbal hologram stomps immortal technique, in my opinion heh

  • i came and commented because these 2 guys are completely 2 different rappers its kind of insane to even try to put these niggas against each other itd be like a lion vs an eagle

  • whats the first song by vinnie?

  • this video would be a lot better if you tagged the name of each song for people that don't know who either rapper is or new fans that don't know anything about the emcee's i know all the songs just saying

  • vinnie paz puts more heart in, got that raw shit! immortal vs iron soloman, immortal sounded like a 3year old amateur! no comparing..

  • vinnie is better

  • How about we get these two on an actual song together. Then the battle

  • They're both sick as fuck but i have to go for Technique

  • he said it, " I RAP LIKE NO ONE OUT THERE COULD FUCK WITH ME!"

  • vinnie all day man

  • They're both ill, but i go with Immortal Technique. Don't be biased, and think. Vinnie Paz has the rest of JMT and AOTP, that makes him sound so good.

  • @ 6:37 he says that the devil follows him everywhere that he goes, then look at the lower left corner

  • @ThePhundumentalz thats fucking sketchy

  • @ThePhundumentalz wtf im telling you man we all got them jinns who haunt us

  • yoo please someone tell me whats the name the fuckin track at 8:39 the beat kill my speaker loll tanks

  • @Velozogabriel JMT - heavenly divine.

  • @Velozogabriel jmt heavenly divine

  • im sorry i m and necro cant rap VINNIE PAZ kills it

  • 8:34 who is that between paz and tech?

  • the 2 best rappers alive. this is like when people say "who do you love more your mom or your dad"

  • This battle would be an immovable object against an unstoppable force.

    I'd pay to see that shit

  • man don't force me to choose....... love them both

    real rap at work here

  • where can i buy a guerilla republik shirt

  • you should do tech vs tech..n9ne

  • they should battle for real

  • Gotta go with tech cuz u can't shoot a house with a Paz!!

  • I GOT TO GIVE IT TO TECH

    but damn theyre both the best rappers ive ever heard

  • U dumb mumba buckas baratsos de mielda...how can u schmucks put brothers against each other u puts de le gumbres...... u ever fall in stain faith cus this clorox oxes fake knocks. MAX RESPETO FOR BOTH THEESE GGGSS

  • Respect for both but im a PAZ fan..

  • ALL OF THE ABOVE.

  • Fucks sake I thought this was actually a rap battle video.

  • @Kullg4r same hereee ! 

  • They do need to make a fkn track together already...

  • @vapors420 they have bro called angels of demons i do believe

  • @vapors420 its angels of death sorry but yeah search immortal technique ft jedi and itll pop up

  • Yeah I know about angels of death but we both know we want more...

  • @vapors420 for sure bro vinnie paz and immortal are totally underated emcees

  • They are both sick. Paz has a bigger selection of classic rhymes (in my opinion) than Tech, who I find gets boring outside of his best songs. Tech's delivery is cleaner which makes understanding him easier. Paz has that voice and delivery that you hear once and never forget, with hype only matched by DMX off the top of my head. Their rhyme topics fit in the same category, but give Paz the nod for broader spectrum. On top of that Stoupe is like being dealt pocket aces almost every hand.

  • GOD VS. GOD if this battle actually happened there lyrics would destroy the earth

  • @NessTherapSolo you really believe that

  • @NessTherapSolo haahhaha your right!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @NessTherapSolo Hahaha!

  • Paz has a lot more agression in his lyrics. Shit just psyc's you up.

    

  • hard to decide who's iller, both r sick

  • Vinnie Paz. <3

  • Vinnie paz has the better lyrical skill...plus his shit never gets old, never boring.

  • @GhostLyrical Think so? I would've said the opposite.. Immortal Tech seems to have slightly more lyrical ability and Vinnie seems to have slightly more flow.

  • holy shit, vinnie paz, ill bill and immortal technique would be the sickest thing ever

  • Should of just played dance with the devil against uncommon valor

  • they are both il

  • Its all preference... I'm IT but thats just me

  • immortal technique is the shit that people listen to when theyre bearly gettin into real hip hop. ahaha fuck that nigga

  • @KidBazer naa man.. your just too stupid to comprehend what tech spits

  • @RealizeAndRecognise lol thats what everyone says. i know what hes saying. he just doesn't do it well.

  • @KidBazer doesnt do it 'well' ? not many cats alive these days have such story telling abilities through rapping.. ill flow - and actual messages with actual facts - but well - theres ppl that prefer intelligent shit to their ears and those that prefer blingbling/money music - i guess 'everyone' is wrong about techs music or then you are.. 1 fact i know - you cant relate to his music hence the hate

  • @RealizeAndRecognise lol just shut up. you already sound pretty stupid acting like you know me. I dont like immortal tech so i must listen to bling/money music and can't relate to his words. hahaha. fuckin retard.

  • and the song that starts at 5:32?

  • what's the song that starts at 1:05?

  • vinnie p, no doubt!

  • Vinnie kills the mic .. Prolly one of the best .. Better then any main stream clown..

  • Vinnie Paz by far.

    Immortal Technique is pretty terrible, he's ridiculously overrated in the underground.

  • Both are two of my favorite rappers!

  • paz no doubt.

  • Immortal Technique

  • Paz gets my vote. Both good, but i find that i listen to more of Paz. He just dominates the beats. I find tech a bit repetitive.

  • PAZ is wayyyyyy doper!!

  • Respect to my italian motherfucka Vincenzo Luvineri! And personal i hate immortal fagnique becuse he dont know shit. He just raps about politic he dont have no clue of. feel me

  • Immortal Technique is the truth......i dont thnk i can realli compare him 2 nebody.........but props 2 vinnie paz too

  • @Lancearodriguez The illest and Bin Laden Remix

  • technique's rhymes are smarter, but talent-wise it's vinny hands-down.

  • = :) 

  • im listening more of vinnie paz ,seriously...I think ,,but every got his taste of music and lyrics//but vinnie is dope ..he got that truth of his life and the life around him..and maybe i mistake,,but i havent heard a song from him that he said i love bitches,,,thats unique..and much much more..flow and words he making,are pure art for me,,,I.T. is artist to but vinnie got something special,,peaca out

  • Vinnie Paz Knocks you out with Philosophical thoughts and perfect lines and tricks and Immortal Technique uses crazy Metaphors and Revolutionary Facts either way there is no who's better it's the message these rappers are trying to send out to people thats the primary reason the music industry doesn't accept them because half the rappers out there can only rap about certain things because the government has control over any rapper who is signed to their agenda and thats what happened to Tupac

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  • you probably couldnt have said that any better

  • this vid is total bullshit, immortal and vinnie are on a different level from each other, different rhymes, background, lines ect.

  • Both are absolute tho immortal technique are on another level....But vinnie is amazing seriously...

  • What is the song at 03:38 Please ?? Message back or Reply to comment , Thanks .

  • @hellosips On the Eve of War

  • Vinnie!

  • Vinie Paz FTW

  • I wanna see these two on track together.

  • immortal technique 1!!!!!!!!!

    

  • whats the song that starts at 1:04?

  • Respect both rappers like crazy.

    They are both lyrically insane.

    But vinnie takes the cake.

    Vinnie pazienzia!

  • YO BUST A MOTHERFUCKING GAT TO THIS!

    gotta type ikon lines in all caps.

    tech is great and i think hes a genius, but in straight rapping I gotta give it to the pazmanian devil. his flow is just too sick

  • PAZ

  • immortal technique all the way

  • both legends of the underground but tech really gets to you

  • None of them, you fags should stop making hip hop a contest and just enjoy the fucking music...

  • They are both dope!!! End of story

  • fuck I hate lil wayne

  • @majskolven3

    lil wayne is just a fake rapper

  • Both are boss

    But Vinnie Paz id have to say

  • what a stupid comparison, vinnie is doing this for 10 years +, has inspired tons of other artists,and people generaly.Go check out exertions of jedi mind tricks and rethink of deleting this video cause its 100% immature.

    immortal tech is just good.

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  • @ihaveallseeingeyes

    Tech is one of the baddest battle emcees in the game. Tech is one of the top lyricist in the game. Tech is world historic putting out albums that spark political consciousness. whereas Paz is just looking to shock you . . . No son, your mom's pussy was just good. . .

  • @HeronimousPhunk Paz would be considered as his musical "dad". You really cant compare someone whose been doing this since 1995 with a newbie (whose actually doing pretty good) but when it comes to critisize those 2 musicians paz has a better flow, better band, and also way better lyrics.He has been reading all kinds of books, relegious political,mythological and what not, while on the other hand Tech just GOOGLES conspiracy theories at home. As about the insult, sorry i dont do youtube fights

  • @ihaveallseeingeyes this completly shows you have no Idea of what technique is talking about since he talks bout historical facts as much as conspiracy or more, you can claim that you dont feel tech's music, but dont begin to make statements about what his rhymes revolves around, thats utter bullshit...

  • @GrimmjowProduction Still, your not prooving that he is better than paz.

  • @ihaveallseeingeyes Im not trying to, if you have heard most tracks by both MC's and you lean over to Paz, then its your choice, as long you repping underground music im cool, I personally enjoy both their music, both legendary in Underground no doubt... I dont prefer either their music.

  • @ihaveallseeingeyes

    The insult was not intended to insult, it was actually just a quoting of the lyrics on the video this is about. You are wrong about not being able to compare two emcees because of how they might be related. That's like saying you can't compare Michael Jordon to his son, well you can and MJ is much better at basketball than his son. In this case if I granted your analysis that Tech is Paz's son then the son is far greater than the father. Let the father be proud.

  • @ihaveallseeingeyes

    As for the googling. I don't know if that is true either, but I'm not elitist. I don't judge how people come to insights. I find Tech far more insightful, accurate, and clever.

  • ok this is a hard question with no answer lyrically Vinnie Paz any day. On rawness Technique. On a ill underground hip-hop artist BOTH!!!!! But Ima have to go with Vinnie. I been on Jedi Mind Tricks before the beginning of time.

  • both ill out killing it love both but put vinne and jmt on repet to much to pick tech

  • None, it's no point putting these against each other, try putting one of them against Jay-Z or Lil Wayne, that would be really entertaining, to see a mainstream artist getting burned!

  • vinnie won !

  • Who gives a fuck whose better.

    Both of them are fucken good. so just enjoy what they gota offer, dont compare.

  • @89mxg

    agree

  • listen to both and you win at the end of the day =)

  • Both are amazing, styles almost identical socio-political consciuos Hip Hop. Have they done a collab yet. Tracks are off the chain too. Tech, I know has given back in a big way to the community. Not sure if Paz has, maybe somebody out there can correct me on that. But until then beause of that alone Tech gets a slight edge in my book.

  • thumbs up if u dont give a fock

    cause both are fockin amazing

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  • TRUE THAT!!!! PEOPLE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE MESSAGE OF THESE LYRICAL GENIUSES AND SPREAD IT TO THE MASSES NOT THE BULL SHIT OF WHOS BETTER!!!!!!!! THERE BOTH SOME OF THE MANY GREAT TRUE HIP-HOP MC"S!!!!!!!!!

  • Both are fucking Legends.

  • its a tie for me, they both are raw as hell. n the dude tha said diabolic is better then both go listen to frontline Tech killed it not even close n i been a diabolic fan fa a while

  • Respect to both are mad dope amazinging lyrically...damn cant even choose, but i like vinnie paz flow as ikon the hologram plus he spits on dope beats because of Stoupe. Immoratal technique lyrics are are amazing and raw education...Cant judge this is class of my two favourite rappers

  • vinnie! all day!

  • JMT 2nd version of Fat Joe. Just saying.....

  • technique

  • immortal technique and vinnie paz are 2 of my 3 favourite rappers. And I wouldn't say anything bad about anyone of them but still kinglevy7 saying that tech doesn't have a message in his lyrics is dead wrong man ...

  • "Squads find it hard to establish a working rhythm, my esoteric mysticism makes me a mathematician, like Apollonious phoniest enemies receive lobotomies, get caught up in my harsh canopy of unhappy rhapsodies, fragments that stagment, we whirl with ultramagnets, my reverberations crush men to microfragments, I get physical in the forest of absolute malnutrition, my complex disposition forces crews into submission." -Vinnie Paz

  • Vinnie paz raps about killing you, government/society and life where as Immortal technique raps about how bad America is and how the government is supposedly trying to kill us all, and once in awhile about children raping their mothers.

  • @Kinglevy7 u just dont get it

  • Vinnie 100%

  • @ontheprowl1000 nolifer

  • this is hard.. vinnie gots flow and the sickest beats ive ever heard but immortal technique's lyrics are crazy as hell and when he battles he knows how to diss a nigga sick wit it aha ..leaves me speechless.. so ill go for a tie

    there both amazing rappers no doubt hands down

    UNDERGROUND ALL DAY

    FUCK THE MAINSTREAM TRASH!!!

  • Immortal technique hands down!!!!!

  • I'm a fan of both Vinnie and Technique. They are both similar emcees. I think Vinnie and Technique both have mind blowing lyrics and are some hardcore motherfuckers. Why does everybody have to hate?

  • technique all the way.

  • lolld

  • I can't say who's better.

    i like both of them they both the biggest rap legends alive to me.

  • @ontheprowl1000 BOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • vinnie wack

  • @ontheprowl1000 <Boo this faggot.

  • starting at 0:05 aut song is that

  • @MINIMAKAV3LI oh nevamind :)

  • each one is the best!

  • fuck you fag