However, this part of Zeitgeist is also BULLSHIT, all their "evidence" is wrong and the whole Sun and Son thing is so fucking stupid I feel like shooting the narrator for trying to make it sound like a viable piece of evidence.
Im so glad that there is no god. I cant imagine living with a being that burns people forever, and lets billions of people die in disasters. I am absolutely terrified of death and do not want to die, but Im not about to cling to some crazy afterlife fantasy as a placebo.
@VeeelzHD the word you are looking for is symbolism. I studied Art history and pre history in university... the word is symbolism or alternately iconography.
How strange, absolutely no where in the Bible does it say that Jesus was born on Dec 25th, so the comparison is now completely meaningless. Horus is said to rise in the morning every single day of the year, not just on 12/25. Horus was not born a virgin. Orion's belt was not called "The 3 Kings" in antiquity, only recently. They also align with Sirius and the sun that way for many months, not just on Dec 25th. Son and Sun do not sound the same in Latin, Greek and countless other languages.
@TorontoBoi True, it doesn't say in the bible that jesus was born on december 25th, but the christian church, hundreds of years after jesus died, decided to place his birth on december 25th because of the celestial symbolism. They basically changed his date of birth to his date of death. So the video still maintains some validity about the december 25th phenomenon. The beliefs of the church are not always the same as the bible. Actually, most beliefs of the church do not align with the bible.
@tiggerny88 you're a little off, it was actually Roman Emperor, Constantinus Augustus, who decided it's best to celebrate Christ's birthday on top of the existing winter solstice celebrations to appease both the PAGAN majority AND this new emerging minority who call themselves "Christians." Religions such as Catholicism are extremely pagan in nature, and ask that you worship the "Holy Catholic Church" and the Pope first, Jesus second. This is blasphemous and wrong on so many levels.
This video is laughable. Isis was not a virgin; Horus was born of Isis and Osiris. There are NOT similarities between christianity and the ancient egyptian religion. The ancient egyptian religion was polytheist, while the ancient religion of the Hebrews was monotheist. Sargon has NO parallel with Moses. Sargon was a king, not a prophet, his laws were only civil, not divinely given.
@StAugustine79 Horus was born to Isis and concieved by Osiris BUT Osiris didn't have a penis (it was cut off by Set). So Horus has a father, but he was concieved without sex.
You are wrong. Christianity's trinity is nothing more but a knock off the egyptian trinity, and the babylonian trinity. The Bible does not support a trinity. Never has, never will.
@TheIsraelite7777 - The real Trinity ruled the world during the conception of Christianity. Vespasian (the father), Titus (the good son) and Domitian.
Titus fulfilled a few prophesies of Jesus too. According to the Jewish War he destroyed Jerusalem a generation after Jesus, just as Jesus predicted. And Titus also had Simon killed in Rome and spared the life of John.
Very odd.
Also, Luke & Acts are dedicated to Theophilus (look him up) and that was Vespasians brother Sabinus.
This is absurd. The number twelve had NOTHING to do with the zodiac. The zodiac derived from the babylonian traditions. The theme of "twelve" in the Bible stems from the twelve tribes of Israel emerging from the sons of Jacob. The maker of this video is ignorant. Confusing causation with correlation. The Jews condemned astrology, thus rendering any astrological connection to the Old Covenant invalid. The Ram's horn was derived from the sacrifice put in the place of Isaac on Mt. Moriah.
This guy is wrong about one thing. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the generation that sees those signs he describes shall NOT pass away till the end comes. The fake Jewish people became a nation on May 14, 1948. The generation that saw this will not pass away till all things be fulfilled. Look around you people.. Look around at what's going on in the world. How do you expect we survive another 10 years? or even another year for that matter before all hell breaks loose?
I will post this message on all 3 parts of this documentary.
User name: "Digital Age" posed the question of "Who was the Egyptian Mises?"
User name: "Pirate AM" answered, "While I think "Zeitgeist" is a good attempt, it misses a ton of real facts and tries to make facts where none exist."
how is what they are saying wrong, first of all its all real things, how they lay it out may differ, but the facts are plain and simple, THERE ISN"T A HEAVEN OR GOD, we are all fucking made up of the same shit, just like the planets, stars, asteroids, everything, look up facts you morons. anything in the universe is made up of the same basis, get god to come tell me where everything came before hand and if he somehow prooves it than I will believe in him but until the facts are shown your dumb
It is a fact that Jesus had 12 disciples and was crucified on a cross historically.....Even if you don't believe the miracles in the bible, u can't deny those facts....Now if what is guy is saying is historical or fiction, idk...but if it is than it makes me praise God all the more cause God made the stars accordingly to his Son.
its not a fact at all, literally show me where in the history that he was even a real person at all, and show me this proof, oh wait you cant, your only answer is a book that was written BY MAN, not by a fucking god, open your eyes you fucking moron, even people in B.C didnt believe in this trash, its quite clear there is no god , jesus was a myth of more than anything, and the bible is a TOOL to teach good morals, NOT what happens to us when we die, we die and rott, DEAL WITH FACTS NOT RELIGION
Tacitus, a Roman historian (55-120 A.D.): "Christus (Christ),... suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilate." (Annals 15:44)
-Josephus (38-97 A.D.) wrote, "Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. His disciples reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive." (James H. Charlesworth, Jesus Within Judaism (Garden City: Doubleday, 1988), p. 95)
wow you can read the bible, somethng wrote for joy, and to keep rebels in tact, your so smart, you can be fooled as easily as primative romans, congrats you get a bunch of words written from OTHER humans, I and many others would believe in god and jesus if they right now came down and spoke to me, in other words, these god and jesus sightings and feelings, are all HUMAN emotions, and HUMAN thoughts, grow up you morons its 2010 for fuck sakes
This guy is wrong about one thing. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the generation that sees those signs he describes shall NOT pass away till the end comes. The fake Jewish people became a nation on May 14, 1948. The generation that saw this will not pass away till all things be fulfilled. Look around you people.. Look around at what's going on in the world. How do you expect we survive another 10 years? or even another year for that matter before all hell breaks loose?
@420AnimeLove too bad said tool "to teach good morals" only became a tool to justify every wrong you do. You killed someone, raped a child, robbed a bank? no problem, confess and you're going to heaven, where the most beautiful angels will greet you with gifts beyond your wildest dreams
because god (IF he is real) wud make it so that it seems (and it is) like jesus is just a myth like all the others out ther rather then have people actualy document the existance of jesus in another place then the bible
i wud really like to think that a man who is the "god", died, and was resurected wud be in sum sort of historical document
This guy is wrong about one thing. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the generation that sees those signs he describes shall NOT pass away till the end comes. The fake Jewish people became a nation on May 14, 1948. The generation that saw this will not pass away till all things be fulfilled. Look around you people.. Look around at what's going on in the world. How do you expect we survive another 10 years? or even another year for that matter before all hell breaks loose?
Everyday that happens is a blessed day. that is for sure. Be thankful for it, and cherish it. Because when the end comes, you will not see another day like it until everything is finished.
@TheIsraelite7777.. when the end comes i will not see another day like it, ...well yea...thats obvious...else it wouldnt be the end...thats just the cycle of things...even things that dont believe in heaven n hell n god and the devil...
Bret, more people should cease being gullible Acharya Ass groupies and investigate her claims and those of Zeitgeist. DOROTHY MURDOCK, the non-scholar who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of crap. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10.
DOROTHY MURDOCK, the non-scholar who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of methane gas. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10. UNLESS YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE IGNORANT 'MY MIND IS MADE UP DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH THE FACTS' MORONS.
#1 ALL Religion is BULLSHIT!!!
However, this part of Zeitgeist is also BULLSHIT, all their "evidence" is wrong and the whole Sun and Son thing is so fucking stupid I feel like shooting the narrator for trying to make it sound like a viable piece of evidence.
boxbreaker2011 2 months ago
Im so glad that there is no god. I cant imagine living with a being that burns people forever, and lets billions of people die in disasters. I am absolutely terrified of death and do not want to die, but Im not about to cling to some crazy afterlife fantasy as a placebo.
bigredphenom 3 months ago
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I hate it when people use the word "symbology", not a word guys. You mean symbolism or ideology not a combination of both.
That being said, I like this film.
LACYV1 3 months ago
I hate it when people use the word "symbology", not a word guys. You mean symbolism or idiology not a combination of both.
That being said, I like this film.
LACYV1 3 months ago
@LACYV1
sym·bol·o·gy (sm-bl-j)
n.
1. The study or interpretation of symbols or symbolism.
2. The use of symbols.
VeeelzHD 4 weeks ago
@VeeelzHD the word you are looking for is symbolism. I studied Art history and pre history in university... the word is symbolism or alternately iconography.
LACYV1 3 weeks ago
This is not on religion, it's on Christianity. And Zeitgeist titled it that way, but the videos title isn't.
sinojtjej 3 months ago
How strange, absolutely no where in the Bible does it say that Jesus was born on Dec 25th, so the comparison is now completely meaningless. Horus is said to rise in the morning every single day of the year, not just on 12/25. Horus was not born a virgin. Orion's belt was not called "The 3 Kings" in antiquity, only recently. They also align with Sirius and the sun that way for many months, not just on Dec 25th. Son and Sun do not sound the same in Latin, Greek and countless other languages.
TorontoBoi 4 months ago 4
@TorontoBoi True, it doesn't say in the bible that jesus was born on december 25th, but the christian church, hundreds of years after jesus died, decided to place his birth on december 25th because of the celestial symbolism. They basically changed his date of birth to his date of death. So the video still maintains some validity about the december 25th phenomenon. The beliefs of the church are not always the same as the bible. Actually, most beliefs of the church do not align with the bible.
tiggerny88 3 months ago
@tiggerny88 you're a little off, it was actually Roman Emperor, Constantinus Augustus, who decided it's best to celebrate Christ's birthday on top of the existing winter solstice celebrations to appease both the PAGAN majority AND this new emerging minority who call themselves "Christians." Religions such as Catholicism are extremely pagan in nature, and ask that you worship the "Holy Catholic Church" and the Pope first, Jesus second. This is blasphemous and wrong on so many levels.
TorontoBoi 3 months ago
@TorontoBoi I agree with the "sun" and "son" thing though. That's just a bunch of rubbish that some atheist thought was smart to point out.
tiggerny88 3 months ago
This video is laughable. Isis was not a virgin; Horus was born of Isis and Osiris. There are NOT similarities between christianity and the ancient egyptian religion. The ancient egyptian religion was polytheist, while the ancient religion of the Hebrews was monotheist. Sargon has NO parallel with Moses. Sargon was a king, not a prophet, his laws were only civil, not divinely given.
StAugustine79 10 months ago
@StAugustine79 Horus was born to Isis and concieved by Osiris BUT Osiris didn't have a penis (it was cut off by Set). So Horus has a father, but he was concieved without sex.
autaturk 7 months ago
@StAugustine79 She declares herself a virgin in the temple of isis...o_0
christsgirlfriend 7 months ago
@StAugustine79 Believe me ... I used to be a christian.. but i researched the claims...
christsgirlfriend 7 months ago
@StAugustine79
You are wrong. Christianity's trinity is nothing more but a knock off the egyptian trinity, and the babylonian trinity. The Bible does not support a trinity. Never has, never will.
TheIsraelite7777 5 months ago
@TheIsraelite7777 - The real Trinity ruled the world during the conception of Christianity. Vespasian (the father), Titus (the good son) and Domitian.
Titus fulfilled a few prophesies of Jesus too. According to the Jewish War he destroyed Jerusalem a generation after Jesus, just as Jesus predicted. And Titus also had Simon killed in Rome and spared the life of John.
Very odd.
Also, Luke & Acts are dedicated to Theophilus (look him up) and that was Vespasians brother Sabinus.
Franknarfable 4 months ago
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@Franknarfable
Whatever, as long as you know there is no biblical trinity.
TheIsraelite7777 4 months ago
This is absurd. The number twelve had NOTHING to do with the zodiac. The zodiac derived from the babylonian traditions. The theme of "twelve" in the Bible stems from the twelve tribes of Israel emerging from the sons of Jacob. The maker of this video is ignorant. Confusing causation with correlation. The Jews condemned astrology, thus rendering any astrological connection to the Old Covenant invalid. The Ram's horn was derived from the sacrifice put in the place of Isaac on Mt. Moriah.
StAugustine79 10 months ago
ware in the bibel say he was born on des 25 ?????
geiruhl 11 months ago
Great vid... let's do Islam next!!
snogger64 1 year ago
This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The old testament has been around for nearly 6000 years.
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
This guy is wrong about one thing. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the generation that sees those signs he describes shall NOT pass away till the end comes. The fake Jewish people became a nation on May 14, 1948. The generation that saw this will not pass away till all things be fulfilled. Look around you people.. Look around at what's going on in the world. How do you expect we survive another 10 years? or even another year for that matter before all hell breaks loose?
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
I will post this message on all 3 parts of this documentary.
User name: "Digital Age" posed the question of "Who was the Egyptian Mises?"
User name: "Pirate AM" answered, "While I think "Zeitgeist" is a good attempt, it misses a ton of real facts and tries to make facts where none exist."
I agree with Pirate AM.
mcrevis 1 year ago
how is what they are saying wrong, first of all its all real things, how they lay it out may differ, but the facts are plain and simple, THERE ISN"T A HEAVEN OR GOD, we are all fucking made up of the same shit, just like the planets, stars, asteroids, everything, look up facts you morons. anything in the universe is made up of the same basis, get god to come tell me where everything came before hand and if he somehow prooves it than I will believe in him but until the facts are shown your dumb
420AnimeLove 2 years ago
It is a fact that Jesus had 12 disciples and was crucified on a cross historically.....Even if you don't believe the miracles in the bible, u can't deny those facts....Now if what is guy is saying is historical or fiction, idk...but if it is than it makes me praise God all the more cause God made the stars accordingly to his Son.
truebman100 2 years ago
@truebman100 you're brainwashed
aldfjak 2 years ago 11
its not a fact at all, literally show me where in the history that he was even a real person at all, and show me this proof, oh wait you cant, your only answer is a book that was written BY MAN, not by a fucking god, open your eyes you fucking moron, even people in B.C didnt believe in this trash, its quite clear there is no god , jesus was a myth of more than anything, and the bible is a TOOL to teach good morals, NOT what happens to us when we die, we die and rott, DEAL WITH FACTS NOT RELIGION
420AnimeLove 2 years ago 8
Tacitus, a Roman historian (55-120 A.D.): "Christus (Christ),... suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilate." (Annals 15:44)
-Josephus (38-97 A.D.) wrote, "Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. His disciples reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive." (James H. Charlesworth, Jesus Within Judaism (Garden City: Doubleday, 1988), p. 95)
truebman100 2 years ago
wow you can read the bible, somethng wrote for joy, and to keep rebels in tact, your so smart, you can be fooled as easily as primative romans, congrats you get a bunch of words written from OTHER humans, I and many others would believe in god and jesus if they right now came down and spoke to me, in other words, these god and jesus sightings and feelings, are all HUMAN emotions, and HUMAN thoughts, grow up you morons its 2010 for fuck sakes
420AnimeLove 2 years ago
dude even the bible is just to fool us and seperated from all others with other religions
all religions are a load
MrSir98 1 year ago
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@MrSir98
This guy is wrong about one thing. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the generation that sees those signs he describes shall NOT pass away till the end comes. The fake Jewish people became a nation on May 14, 1948. The generation that saw this will not pass away till all things be fulfilled. Look around you people.. Look around at what's going on in the world. How do you expect we survive another 10 years? or even another year for that matter before all hell breaks loose?
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@420AnimeLove too bad said tool "to teach good morals" only became a tool to justify every wrong you do. You killed someone, raped a child, robbed a bank? no problem, confess and you're going to heaven, where the most beautiful angels will greet you with gifts beyond your wildest dreams
rkzb 4 months ago
yes
because god (IF he is real) wud make it so that it seems (and it is) like jesus is just a myth like all the others out ther rather then have people actualy document the existance of jesus in another place then the bible
i wud really like to think that a man who is the "god", died, and was resurected wud be in sum sort of historical document
MrSir98 1 year ago
@truebman100
This guy is wrong about one thing. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the generation that sees those signs he describes shall NOT pass away till the end comes. The fake Jewish people became a nation on May 14, 1948. The generation that saw this will not pass away till all things be fulfilled. Look around you people.. Look around at what's going on in the world. How do you expect we survive another 10 years? or even another year for that matter before all hell breaks loose?
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@TheIsraelite7777 ...well that was 7mths ago...and im still here.......whos with me..
HOMEnHIGH 5 months ago
@HOMEnHIGH
Everyday that happens is a blessed day. that is for sure. Be thankful for it, and cherish it. Because when the end comes, you will not see another day like it until everything is finished.
TheIsraelite7777 5 months ago
@TheIsraelite7777.. when the end comes i will not see another day like it, ...well yea...thats obvious...else it wouldnt be the end...thats just the cycle of things...even things that dont believe in heaven n hell n god and the devil...
HOMEnHIGH 5 months ago
@truebman100 hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha oh dear god you gave me the laugh of a lifetime
rkzb 4 months ago
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rockpianoguy 2 years ago
more people should watch this documentary.
BretReinald 3 years ago 3
Bret, more people should cease being gullible Acharya Ass groupies and investigate her claims and those of Zeitgeist. DOROTHY MURDOCK, the non-scholar who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of crap. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10.
MagusSolitudo 3 years ago
Well said sir!
VoteHarveyDent 2 years ago
DOROTHY MURDOCK, the non-scholar who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of methane gas. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10. UNLESS YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE IGNORANT 'MY MIND IS MADE UP DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH THE FACTS' MORONS.
MagusSolitudo 3 years ago
entertaining but super far fetched!
marsaili44 3 years ago