@combatninja313 There are expensive( 500$), but they are only has to make for a 454 for the g-body. Here is the link number from summit or you may have in napa also .(Hooker Headers 2241HKR )
@MrCharles1669 I had a 3.8 before my big block.c 454 is a very good little engine, but that is not very powerful. But it is very economical and very reliable
why a 454? in a gran prix are you the cops or something 454 engine's are the biggest gas guzzler's they drink gas chevy usually put's them in dually pickup's
No A/C. That makes the swap much easier. I had an `81 and an`83. Both had 350SBC. On the `83, it had A/C and I had 4249 valve covers that barely fit. You definitely couldn't have that with a BBC without swapping the box or doing away with heat altogether.
ok whats the parts list i will need to drop in an olds 455 rocket? i might be able to get one ready to rock! i plan on doing chrome side pipes (thank fuck MN has no real emmissions laws) and ive got a lead on a TH 400 trans. keep in mind im a broke ass so the cheaper the better. (cost not quality wise) granted i'm willing to spend a few bucks and do it right. i just dont want my wife to divorce me over it. lol
Just out of curiousity why did you put such a nice setup in a 84 grand prix, I'm not hating on the gp but that looks like a super clean high dollar build.
that was fucking beautiful!!! i have a 84 grand prix t tops its a v8 its my baby...been in my family for years i gotta get work done on it though it runs and all just needs fixing up!!
@Hatebot123 in the 1980's chevrolet produced V-8's for GM, buick produced V-6's for GM and olds produced 4 poppers for GM the only division that kept its own motors in GM back in the 80's and 90's was cadillac. look it up. its a well known fact. so if you have a 86 pontiac grand prix with a stock V-8 ITS A FREAKIN CHEVY MOTOR!!! starting in the 80's there where no more pontiac V-8 engines produced. they where chevy motors put into pontiacs by pontiac.
i have an 81 GP LJ with t-tops in good shape, the bad parts are its got that wheeze V6 and it just crapped its tranny. i want to do a 350 with a TH350 trans but my big worry is that the motor mounts will be hard to find. somone said i can just relocate my v6 motor mounts if i do a small block but i want to be damn shure before i start tearing the car apart. what id love to get is a GM g body with a v8 thats a rust bucket from hell just to have all the parts i need but i dont think i'll get lucky
@cadddy1871 You will not misery has put a 350 in it. You only have to remove the old bracket on the cross member. Go to a retail auto parts, and seek support for g-body V8, 1978 a1987 and that you screwed it in place.The support costs about $ 10 each new! The holes are already drilled in the cross member of origin. A child's play!
@tasmanie28 thank you very much. i have done motor swaps befor but it was always stock motor for stock motor. never gone from a 6 to an 8 so i was wondering if it would be a problem. once again thanks. and perhapps i will have to make a vidoe of the project and post it once it is complete
@tasmanie28 oh i have another question. where did you get that cowl hood and what did it set you back? its a nice edition to your car. ive consiterd putting the shaker hood cowl from a 77 trans am that has been hanging in my garage for over 4 years now just waiting for somthing like this. (thank god i have an auto body education. lol i looked for a cowl hood like yours and i have had trouble finding one that wassent "pin style" only.
@cadddy1871 In terms of th 350, it is absolutely identical to the transmission you have with your v6. The only thing that differs is what is most toff! Its bolt has exactly the same place.
@crammage I want to say that the car has changed a lot since this video, Posed buckets seat and a shiffter b & m and is mounted on the 255/60r15 Mickey Thompson. My best fan time is 5.32 sec 0-60 mph. next summer I'll make a new video with all what I said and also a new paint on the car is to plan for next spring
what kind of gears do you got in the rear? my 350 (chevy) gets 10-12 mpg period. no better, no worse unless i have the pedal on the floor all the time. I got 3.73 gears in the back so my mileage aint great. 18 highway is good.
i have the same size motor in the same model car and need to replace my camshaft. is it possible to do this with the engine still in the car? i already know the easier ways but don't have the proper equipment to lift the engine up more for convenience. very nice setup
First of all , dont you just love how interchangable GM products are?
I really like your choice , those 81-87 Grand Prix's are in my opinion, great cars to hotrod. And hard to find in good shape too. I put a 454 in my 85 Sierra Classic and it fit right in , bolted to the small block tranny and motor mounts and she was perfect. I have a very small bit of it on here under ( 500 horse 454 ) its the black truck. Good job
i love it man! the ultimate sleeper car, you should leave it the way it looks with those stock looking rims, pull up beside a new mustang or challenger and roast it!
The camshaft is enginetech Es1224r or speed pro cs-1224r is the same identique.duration is 230/230, ovelap is 72 and valve lift is .544. Lobe center 107/111. Is very good cam for street. rougt and idle. Moderate performance.Usage good mid-range torque and hp, mild bracket racing, auto trans w/2500 + converter, 3400-3800 cruise RPM, 9.5 to11.0 compression ratio advised. Basic rpm 300-6000 rpm
thanx allot bro. bcuz im gettin paid and i wan a good cam to put in my baby. i have the same car but different model. i have an 85 pontiac gp. 305 hooker huggers, 7bb edelbrock carb, nice edelbrock intake, rebuilt heads, new push rods, dual w/ 44 s flowmasters, posi rear end comin 2morror. sounds good. now i gotta get the cam and im all set, thanx 4 the help
one other question. if u have your engine in timing when u take out the old cam do u put the new cam in and then spin the cam til the cam pin is facing the 3 o'clock position bcuz i dont want to mess up a valve with my new comp cam. please help.
I have purchase exhaust race pro muffler for g-body . Manufacturer (pypes performance exhaust).Part numbers (Pypes Performance Exhaust 78-88 SS G-Body 2.5" Header-Back Exhaust System with X-Pipe, Race Pro Mufflers ((# sgg12r))
Great start. Love what you got cooking here. Please tell me you're going to make upgrades with the safety items inside the car?It looks like a shit load of power with a stock looking interior, and wheels and tires. I do like the recipe you're using though.
Seriously dude? Safety is where you take precautions to save your own life despite the dangerous conditions around you. Your humor is about as funny as a bad case of hemroids. Do you even have a clue what torque is?
it makes around 550 ft lbs. of torque give or take a bit ... why would he go and rollcage and 5 point a street car (unless he plans on running it at a track) do you see guys with the new 6.7 cummins "taking safty percautions"?? dont think so
Well, the way I see it is if you have an engine with as much power as this one appears to make, you need to make safety improvements in order to keep it from hitting a wall. Otherwise, what's the point of having that power if you don't put a foot in it? Also, with huge amounts of power and no upgrades in braking, suspension,....you're almost assuring yourself of disaster. When you wreck, I'll say I told you so.
Why a roll cage? Because who has a car with that kind of power and doesn't ever put a foot in it? Be honest. Odds are he will too. That kind of power always has a percentage of unpredictability about it. In other words, the potential is always there to lose control and smash the car. I hope that never happens. I love tons and tons of power like that, but safety with me is number one.
yeah to each their own .. the trans am i just built wont see a roll cage ... got a built big block pontiac but i dont ever plan on getting on the car ... i lit it up once about a month ago to see what it had and thats it ... i dont even like driving the car to be honest with you LOL
I have no clue about the new 6.7L Cummins engines. I can't make an informed opinion on them. But anytime you boost power you need to be sure things are safe.
can u please tell me where u got your headers from i have looked everwhere and cant find any that fit a 454 and my 86 grand prix
combatninja313 1 week ago
@combatninja313 There are expensive( 500$), but they are only has to make for a 454 for the g-body. Here is the link number from summit or you may have in napa also .(Hooker Headers 2241HKR )
tasmanie28 1 week ago
i just got a 1986 grandprix le and im wondering if the 3.8l was a good engine i got it for 400$ mint 85 00 km on it and i need a upper tabel
MrCharles1669 3 months ago
@MrCharles1669 I had a 3.8 before my big block.c 454 is a very good little engine, but that is not very powerful. But it is very economical and very reliable
tasmanie28 3 months ago
i just got a 1986 grandprix le and im wondering if the 3.8l was a good engine
MrCharles1669 3 months ago
Nice I'm thinking about pitting a 455 in my grand prix..... Where did u get ur radiator?
cedzone3 3 months ago
i love it keep those pontiacs alive looks great f the haterssssssssssss
pontiacman3 3 months ago
why a 454? in a gran prix are you the cops or something 454 engine's are the biggest gas guzzler's they drink gas chevy usually put's them in dually pickup's
KF6LIL 3 months ago
cèst bon ! lol, holla at french america, k-beck :)
CHUUMPASS 6 months ago
@CHUUMPASS
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IBroLLyISePhIrOtH 6 months ago
No A/C. That makes the swap much easier. I had an `81 and an`83. Both had 350SBC. On the `83, it had A/C and I had 4249 valve covers that barely fit. You definitely couldn't have that with a BBC without swapping the box or doing away with heat altogether.
gwm666 7 months ago
is that a one piece fiber glass hood or was the scoop mounted on the hood?
THEANTIPLAYER 8 months ago
@THEANTIPLAYER Yes is fiber hood scoop
tasmanie28 8 months ago
@tasmanie28 where did U get it through and how much was it?
THEANTIPLAYER 8 months ago
is that a one peice fiber glass hood or was the scoop mounted on the hood?
THEANTIPLAYER 8 months ago
@81caminoss your a fucking moron pontiac never used a gm v8 they were allways buick v8s
Hatebot123 9 months ago
ok whats the parts list i will need to drop in an olds 455 rocket? i might be able to get one ready to rock! i plan on doing chrome side pipes (thank fuck MN has no real emmissions laws) and ive got a lead on a TH 400 trans. keep in mind im a broke ass so the cheaper the better. (cost not quality wise) granted i'm willing to spend a few bucks and do it right. i just dont want my wife to divorce me over it. lol
cadddy1871 10 months ago
Holy shit !!!! Thats so cool man ! Bet you fool alot of people on the street with that 454 under there haha !!
NoForRice 11 months ago
Just out of curiousity why did you put such a nice setup in a 84 grand prix, I'm not hating on the gp but that looks like a super clean high dollar build.
TroubleDouble123 11 months ago
that was fucking beautiful!!! i have a 84 grand prix t tops its a v8 its my baby...been in my family for years i gotta get work done on it though it runs and all just needs fixing up!!
AmbzMo21 11 months ago
@Hatebot123 in the 1980's chevrolet produced V-8's for GM, buick produced V-6's for GM and olds produced 4 poppers for GM the only division that kept its own motors in GM back in the 80's and 90's was cadillac. look it up. its a well known fact. so if you have a 86 pontiac grand prix with a stock V-8 ITS A FREAKIN CHEVY MOTOR!!! starting in the 80's there where no more pontiac V-8 engines produced. they where chevy motors put into pontiacs by pontiac.
cadddy1871 11 months ago
@cadddy1871
Oldsmobile made their own V8's. People like those because they apparently put out more torque than a chevy.
ilshwak 10 months ago
@ilshwak i had an olds tornado with the 307 olds engine and that thing hauled some serious ass.
cadddy1871 10 months ago
@ilshwak olds used buicks v8s.
Hatebot123 9 months ago
@Hatebot123
olds used buick V6's. Olds made their own V8's.
ilshwak 9 months ago
i have an 81 GP LJ with t-tops in good shape, the bad parts are its got that wheeze V6 and it just crapped its tranny. i want to do a 350 with a TH350 trans but my big worry is that the motor mounts will be hard to find. somone said i can just relocate my v6 motor mounts if i do a small block but i want to be damn shure before i start tearing the car apart. what id love to get is a GM g body with a v8 thats a rust bucket from hell just to have all the parts i need but i dont think i'll get lucky
cadddy1871 11 months ago
@cadddy1871 You will not misery has put a 350 in it. You only have to remove the old bracket on the cross member. Go to a retail auto parts, and seek support for g-body V8, 1978 a1987 and that you screwed it in place.The support costs about $ 10 each new! The holes are already drilled in the cross member of origin. A child's play!
tasmanie28 11 months ago
@tasmanie28 thank you very much. i have done motor swaps befor but it was always stock motor for stock motor. never gone from a 6 to an 8 so i was wondering if it would be a problem. once again thanks. and perhapps i will have to make a vidoe of the project and post it once it is complete
cadddy1871 11 months ago
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cadddy1871 11 months ago
@tasmanie28 oh i have another question. where did you get that cowl hood and what did it set you back? its a nice edition to your car. ive consiterd putting the shaker hood cowl from a 77 trans am that has been hanging in my garage for over 4 years now just waiting for somthing like this. (thank god i have an auto body education. lol i looked for a cowl hood like yours and i have had trouble finding one that wassent "pin style" only.
cadddy1871 11 months ago
@cadddy1871 In terms of th 350, it is absolutely identical to the transmission you have with your v6. The only thing that differs is what is most toff! Its bolt has exactly the same place.
tasmanie28 11 months ago
dont be a asshole its a gm product in a gm car idiot
ihatefords1000 11 months ago
@Hatebot123 Honestly? I put a GM engine in a GM car? It's not like I put a ford engine in a GM!!
tasmanie28 1 year ago 5
whats your gas mileage?
dont sell that car keep good care of it!
crammage 1 year ago
@crammage approx 18 mpg for the best good condition.
tasmanie28 1 year ago
@tasmanie28 highway or combined?
crammage 1 year ago
@crammage Highway only, In the city aprrox 10 or 12 MPG
tasmanie28 1 year ago
@tasmanie28 yeah but how fast is it 0-60?
crammage 1 year ago
@crammage I want to say that the car has changed a lot since this video, Posed buckets seat and a shiffter b & m and is mounted on the 255/60r15 Mickey Thompson. My best fan time is 5.32 sec 0-60 mph. next summer I'll make a new video with all what I said and also a new paint on the car is to plan for next spring
tasmanie28 1 year ago
@tasmanie28 damn but do you really need a big block?
id do a 327 if not 400 small block
crammage 1 year ago
@crammage no replacement for displacement!
32middlelinebacker 1 year ago
@tasmanie28
what kind of gears do you got in the rear? my 350 (chevy) gets 10-12 mpg period. no better, no worse unless i have the pedal on the floor all the time. I got 3.73 gears in the back so my mileage aint great. 18 highway is good.
ilshwak 10 months ago
@ilshwak I have a Gear 3.18. I madeprobably 15 to 18 mpg
tasmanie28 9 months ago
@crammage 5.25 0-100 km/H or 0-60 MPH
tasmanie28 2 months ago
That's a bad ass 454. Nice work.......I likes!
Mersadies07 1 year ago
Thats fuckin nice my dad had a 74 corvette stingray but this thing is nice! thaks for uploading this
MultiShooter123 1 year ago
Awesome!
BogusBoy2121 1 year ago
i have the same size motor in the same model car and need to replace my camshaft. is it possible to do this with the engine still in the car? i already know the easier ways but don't have the proper equipment to lift the engine up more for convenience. very nice setup
601primetime 1 year ago
EXCELENT MUSCLE CAR
SLAVERFROMHELL 1 year ago
First of all , dont you just love how interchangable GM products are?
I really like your choice , those 81-87 Grand Prix's are in my opinion, great cars to hotrod. And hard to find in good shape too. I put a 454 in my 85 Sierra Classic and it fit right in , bolted to the small block tranny and motor mounts and she was perfect. I have a very small bit of it on here under ( 500 horse 454 ) its the black truck. Good job
havinfun42 1 year ago
he used reasonable thinking when matching his parts, that's why it has good throttle response. nice job
TrackingPerformance 1 year ago
Nice
your engine response very good
al3id 1 year ago
thanx anyway man. i had mine made at my school so im all good now :) come look at my 85 gp
LPATRON19 1 year ago
i cant find the brace for the power steering. can u tell me where u got yours from bcuz i need it bad.
LPATRON19 1 year ago
@LPATRON19 I even make my suport for the power steering. I did not find the part.
tasmanie28 1 year ago
what kind of engine mounts did u use?
jjb19814 1 year ago
@jjb19814 the original motor mount for grand-prix V8 motors
tasmanie28 1 year ago
@tasmanie28 man nice attention 2 detail under the hood!!!!!greatjob id keep the body lookin stock awsome sleeper!!!!!
jkcamperspecial 1 year ago
i wish i had that in my 79 grand prix
grafftodatrack 1 year ago
i love it man! the ultimate sleeper car, you should leave it the way it looks with those stock looking rims, pull up beside a new mustang or challenger and roast it!
krisduboy 2 years ago
please give me the cam specs. duration and all on this badass
LPATRON19 2 years ago
The camshaft is enginetech Es1224r or speed pro cs-1224r is the same identique.duration is 230/230, ovelap is 72 and valve lift is .544. Lobe center 107/111. Is very good cam for street. rougt and idle. Moderate performance.Usage good mid-range torque and hp, mild bracket racing, auto trans w/2500 + converter, 3400-3800 cruise RPM, 9.5 to11.0 compression ratio advised. Basic rpm 300-6000 rpm
tasmanie28 2 years ago
thanx allot bro. bcuz im gettin paid and i wan a good cam to put in my baby. i have the same car but different model. i have an 85 pontiac gp. 305 hooker huggers, 7bb edelbrock carb, nice edelbrock intake, rebuilt heads, new push rods, dual w/ 44 s flowmasters, posi rear end comin 2morror. sounds good. now i gotta get the cam and im all set, thanx 4 the help
LPATRON19 2 years ago
one other question. if u have your engine in timing when u take out the old cam do u put the new cam in and then spin the cam til the cam pin is facing the 3 o'clock position bcuz i dont want to mess up a valve with my new comp cam. please help.
LPATRON19 2 years ago
@tasmanie28 Really Nice install and great little sleeper you got there. it ought to run Mid to low 12's with EASE..
85olds442 1 year ago
PLEASE tell how much does a new 454hp big block COST, i need to know so i can save up for it and put it in my 1985 BUICK LESABRE
taecamperva 2 years ago
Everyone knows if you want a fast Pontiac, you gotta put a Chevy motor in it.
OneThousandWatts 2 years ago
There are more pieces available to change an engine big block chevrolet, for a 455 pontiac engine. And I love the big block chevy!
tasmanie28 2 years ago
NICE! looks just like my old grand prix, other then the 454 in it. lol i had a little 305 V8 5.0
beinebeine01 2 years ago
NICE CAR NOT MANY BIGBLOCK GRANDPRIXS
lou420666 2 years ago
what gas mileage do you get?
FordDiesel512 2 years ago
I have not really count, but about 12 to 14mpg I would say
tasmanie28 2 years ago
what's your exhaust set up?
Camo 2 years ago
I have purchase exhaust race pro muffler for g-body . Manufacturer (pypes performance exhaust).Part numbers (Pypes Performance Exhaust 78-88 SS G-Body 2.5" Header-Back Exhaust System with X-Pipe, Race Pro Mufflers ((# sgg12r))
tasmanie28 2 years ago
Nice gp. sounds great! wish mine sounded good haha. eventually in time. check mine out.
madeincanada1990 2 years ago
dude this is awesome, the ultimate sleeper, roll up in a grand prix at a light cla cla cla cla cla cla. thats sick
FoX0777 2 years ago
Great start. Love what you got cooking here. Please tell me you're going to make upgrades with the safety items inside the car?It looks like a shit load of power with a stock looking interior, and wheels and tires. I do like the recipe you're using though.
chevydually454 2 years ago
Yes it is only a beginning! And the interior is a remake I know! But its takes time and money!
tasmanie28 2 years ago
sayyyyftee??? wtf is that LOL safty is how heavy his foot is =-) only thing id recomend is stiffer rear susp to take some of that torque twist
bradlee101 2 years ago
Seriously dude? Safety is where you take precautions to save your own life despite the dangerous conditions around you. Your humor is about as funny as a bad case of hemroids. Do you even have a clue what torque is?
chevydually454 2 years ago
it makes around 550 ft lbs. of torque give or take a bit ... why would he go and rollcage and 5 point a street car (unless he plans on running it at a track) do you see guys with the new 6.7 cummins "taking safty percautions"?? dont think so
bradlee101 2 years ago
Well, the way I see it is if you have an engine with as much power as this one appears to make, you need to make safety improvements in order to keep it from hitting a wall. Otherwise, what's the point of having that power if you don't put a foot in it? Also, with huge amounts of power and no upgrades in braking, suspension,....you're almost assuring yourself of disaster. When you wreck, I'll say I told you so.
chevydually454 2 years ago
Why a roll cage? Because who has a car with that kind of power and doesn't ever put a foot in it? Be honest. Odds are he will too. That kind of power always has a percentage of unpredictability about it. In other words, the potential is always there to lose control and smash the car. I hope that never happens. I love tons and tons of power like that, but safety with me is number one.
chevydually454 2 years ago
yeah to each their own .. the trans am i just built wont see a roll cage ... got a built big block pontiac but i dont ever plan on getting on the car ... i lit it up once about a month ago to see what it had and thats it ... i dont even like driving the car to be honest with you LOL
bradlee101 2 years ago
I have no clue about the new 6.7L Cummins engines. I can't make an informed opinion on them. But anytime you boost power you need to be sure things are safe.
chevydually454 2 years ago
NICE JOB SOUNDS GREAT
camaro1979a 2 years ago
nice man! what are your other plans?
fabiolas4 2 years ago
I need to work the suspenssion and I do make a nice paint job. But if the worst is not wrong!
tasmanie28 2 years ago