@xSaWx325x jus strikers for me im good if someone blows my head off wit a spas or a ksg but tht fuckin striker pisses me off so much lettin a nigga pull the trigger as fast as he can wit a shotgun wit tht high of damage thts jus fuckin absurd to me
Shotguns are underpowered in this game..not to mention THAT ITS TOTALLY GAY THAT U CAN'T HVE ATTACHMENTS ON THE MODEL AND THERES NO AKIMBO WHICH IS SUPER GAY!
most weapons in this game increase the damage your weapon does when it strikes a your enemies' head, but shotguns dont increase damage at all whether you shoot your enemies' foot or head. so since your shot had little contact with his head, he barely got hurt. :)
um blame it on lag i get killed plenty from shotguns especially the striker . this was just an unlucky shot . but i can kinda see how the other shot guns kinda suck
The shotguns in this game would even make terrible secondaries, never mind primarys.
I have been using shotguns non-stop since cod 4 and i can honestly say i have never seen so much horse shit from any of the shotguns throughout the franchise.
everyone tweet to fourzerotwo to buff the shotguns, they need it and all hes doing to shotguns is taking the ex mags glitch away:( if done it so many times but if everyone does it we have more of a chance, personally i think all the shotguns should be liek the Pre-patch mw2 1887's but thats not gonna happen. Every body tweet
i knwo the shotguns are useless( except the striker) trust iv got about 1500 kills with all except the 1887 and they are fucking awful, they have no place in this game, why would anyone pick a shotgun over and assault rifle or an smg or a sniper when they are all effective and ANY range where as the shotguns are limited to short range and cant even kill at that, the KSG 12 without damage is pretty much only a OHK at knife range, which renders it useless
Heres what i hear all the time wich is fucking ridiculous:
FMG9, Type 95, ACR6.8, Striker, UMP45, PP90, and so on..
if you cant handle getting owned by these guys that are "overpowered" then this game is just going to turn out like black ops.. NOTHING BUT FUCKING HIT MARKERS
stop the fucking patching of guns you are just going to make the game worse it will be black ops all over again where all the guns fell like they have the same power and it doesnt matter what gun they use..
more n00bs headshots dont multiply damage for shotguns meaning headshots do the same damage and not as much pellets are hitting you because the head is smaller DUH!
That was bullshit!!! He didnt even get a headshot with that Type95. It normally takes me 2 direct burst with that gun for me to get a kill like that. Something isnt right. That shotgun should have gotten the kill. They messed up on all of the shotguns in this game. Thats it im gettin BF3!!! >:(
Iw give us the option to change cartrige as a weapon mod e.g slug for range buck for spread etc when i get no scoped in cqb against a fucking shotgun you know it needs sortin
@spycrabify not forgetting that it can kill quicker than a shotgun thus rendering a shotgun useless :D
basically all rockets n00b tubes & shotguns are rarely used because they are extremely under powered so they are useless in the game... the new IW devs are incredibly stupid if they cant even balance these weapons.
@MasterFProductions And that's because idiots like you complained the fuck out of them in previous games. Thanks to you the next game will have 3-round burst weapons that'll take like 5 bursts to kill at close range. Are you shitheads ever satisfied? You want the grenades to be weaker after MW2, but now you want them better in MW3... -.- Hypocrites.
@MasterFProductions the RPG is still the RPG and you feel like a champ when you snipe someone with it. and many times, idk why, but if you hip fire the shot gun it does more damage/accuracy.
@MasterFProductions Bitch they are already balanced! no fucking way in hell would irl would you ever fucking see a sotgun shot straight to the head kill someone!the only way you can kill someone irl is by quickscoping! IW was begging for me and my buddies at sledge hammer, treyarch and activision to increase shotgun and explosive damage, but the community at my twitter account stood up and owned their unbalanced asses!
@MasterFProductions this was not as bullshit than this story, mw2 Spas 12, stopping power point blank back of the head, hit marker, i was standing behind him and a hit marker, i switched to PC after that, less hacks
This is why i dont play cod.. LMAO.. Fuck can somone please make a good game nowadays.. Holy shit..l The only good game in the world right now is minecraft
the thing is ur bullet spread would have barely hit him if his head was right in the middle of the iron sight it would have been a kill. It doesn't matter how close range it is if the bullets don't hit
use steady aim and fire from the hip 100% of the time and shottys in mw3 become much better.....problem is everyone is used to ADS all the time with the spas in mw2....
You think this is bad? I have proof of getting 3 hitmarks with this gun at less than half the distance shown here. 4 shots were needed. All to the head and aimed in properly.
I've just released a MW3 Shotgun Guide, a lot of people are really disappointed with the shotguns so i thought i would give a few tips and setup guide to help you guys out, please check that out <3
@iiDied ok if you're so confident that this wouldn't kill you in real life the how about i shoot you in the head in real life with a shotgun at close range... let's see if the spread will make you survive or see if your head gets blown away.
@MasterFProductions Well Mr. Ragemuch, no one was debating whether or not a REAL LIFE shotgun would kill at that range. In a game that the longet distance is still lethal range for a real life shotgun, you have to nerf it down a bit. Spread for a shotgun the way it is in a game means that you have to hit center mass to make sure most of your shot hit (since that is the way damage is calculated) since only 3 at best hit him, he is only looking at BEST CASE SCENARIO 50 damage. Only half his health
@Blackc47ears not raging, i'm just saying at the range i shot at, his teeth shouldn't be the only thing he should be worried about.. it makes you think that what is the point in using a shotgun if every other gun can kill someone quicker than a shotgun at close range?
@MasterFProductions I agree. While leveling it up, Ive ADS and hit a guy running at me in a straight line CENTER MASS and it didnt kill him. It put him critical mind you, but I died. Dont know if he had bullet proof vest on or what, but I get allot of fuckery like that which that gun.
@MasterFProductions idiot in the game head shots for shotguns do not have a multiplyer if you aim for the body directly and hit them with every pellet w/ damage or not you will score a garrenteed 1 hit kill :)
Dude, look at the wall behind him. Half the shot missed him completely, if not more. I'm not saying that shotguns are good in this (the spaz is atrocious at best) but this is anything but proof.
@iiDied No... the fact that the buck went all over mean he is using a SHOTGUN. Even in real life (and especially in a game) shot from a SG has major spread. And from what I have seen it also likes to spread out fanlike and not paintlike (flat a opposed to radial). So it is fully possible he dragged up to much when going for a headhot (as opposed to just going for the easy body shot) and the spread fanned out over the enemies head. Something that WOULD have killed if it was a chest shot.
@Blackc47ears No, in real life, shotguns have a kill range of about 30 feet. This would be OP in a game like CoD, so it should be around 13 feet. The spread is huge, yes, but if the damage and range of a shotgun should be reduced, the spread should be concentrated to increase the one shot kill range. For a start, look at the damage it did. The guy barely flinched, no matter where that's hitting, it's not even close to a good amount of damage.
@iiDied Like I said they can't make SGs like IRL, BUT if you were to, say, make the spread the same as a shotgun that has shot from 40-50 feet away (30 feet even a .22 round can kill so lets but more range on that) the n yes it WOULD spread out like that, and being that the individual shot is what creats the damage, if only a few hit than that what damages him. Counting the shot that hit the wall behind him its like 5-6, an a spaz shoots 8 shot (mw2 stats) so that means only 3 at best hit.
@iiDied lol you don't even know what your talking about. I OWN two shotguns, a Winchester 780 Pump with a 22 in barrel with no choke which i use for bear protection and the other a Lamber O/U with a 1/2 choke which I use for trap shooting. Let me tell you, that with any ounce size of buckshot which is what they use in COD, it would kill you at any range as long as the pellets hit the target. They don't have a killing range of "30 ft." If they did, what would be the point of them?
@shagingmaster35 I have a gameplay on my fileshare. 4 and 5 hit kills weren't uncommon, from the hip w/ steady aim at 3-5 yards, ADS at similar ranges... can't lie, they suck and you denying it because you prefer your do-all rapid fire SMG or Silenced AR doesn't change a thing.
@j0hn78121 Nope, there's ALOT of gameplay of shotguns sucking ass in this game. Even with the Range or Damage proficiency. NO reason to use them, just like Black Ops. Fuck IW. They weaken Shotguns, make them Primaries, and other bullshit like keeping Deathstreaks in. It COULD have been the best CoD yet, but nope, IW is run by retards or something.
Shotguns don't have increased multipliers to the head (unlike other types of guns) so it's better off just shooting them straight at the chest.
UltimateiHacker94 2 days ago
Shotguns on this game are too inconsistent.
I.e they fucking suck!
CADMANtheCODmaster 5 days ago
the faggot panic bursting his faggot 95 makes this video all the better
osp80 2 weeks ago
Wait wasn't this 2 days before the official release?
ilinnuc 2 weeks ago
more or less the reason why i did not buy it, same bs as all the other cod's
only 2 and 4 were good
bob119911 3 weeks ago
atleast they just buffed all of the shotguns and nerfed the striker
legend123432 1 month ago
lmfao the fact that he is using a type95 just makes it that much worse
DaManBearPig 1 month ago
Shotguns only have 1x damage multiplier for the head so your better off aiming for centre mass.
RaqibMH 1 month ago
if you get damage for shotguns they are really good
xXselfstarXx 1 month ago
lolwut
MrMaRyMaS 1 month ago
i hate bitches that run around with shotguns. espically strikers
xSaWx325x 1 month ago
@xSaWx325x jus strikers for me im good if someone blows my head off wit a spas or a ksg but tht fuckin striker pisses me off so much lettin a nigga pull the trigger as fast as he can wit a shotgun wit tht high of damage thts jus fuckin absurd to me
JUSTBEYOU22984 1 month ago
he hit the neck not the head
shadow12786 1 month ago
*ragequit
0wexfaron 1 month ago
first of all IW needs to make or fix the spawns! then they need to balance weapons, patching even akimbo weapons like the fmg9's!
SilentEliteZ 1 month ago
Shotguns are underpowered in this game..not to mention THAT ITS TOTALLY GAY THAT U CAN'T HVE ATTACHMENTS ON THE MODEL AND THERES NO AKIMBO WHICH IS SUPER GAY!
Son0fBinladen 1 month ago
mw3? or mw2.5?
hellmakerization 1 month ago
@hellmakerization wtf xD
Son0fBinladen 1 month ago
@hellmakerization This is MW3...
BeTheDream123 1 month ago
Shotguns have a 1.0x multiplier to the head.
In other words, you have a better chance aiming at someone's crotch and kill him then shoot him point-blank to the fucking head.
starsixsix 1 month ago
......It takes 2 Type 95 bullets to the foot to kill a person and it takes 3 shotgun shells to the head to kill? Seriously Infinity?
ultramegachicken1001 1 month ago
most weapons in this game increase the damage your weapon does when it strikes a your enemies' head, but shotguns dont increase damage at all whether you shoot your enemies' foot or head. so since your shot had little contact with his head, he barely got hurt. :)
TheKatoProductions 2 months ago
wouldnt have happened in mw2...
TheNextDoorGamer 2 months ago
um blame it on lag i get killed plenty from shotguns especially the striker . this was just an unlucky shot . but i can kinda see how the other shot guns kinda suck
th0mez 2 months ago
I know games aren't supposed to be realistic, but this is fucking ridiculous.
Make Shotguns better, Infinity Ward.
5Branden5 2 months ago
Headshots give no damage bonus in MW3. It sucks.
blackbelt1066 2 months ago
The shotguns in this game would even make terrible secondaries, never mind primarys.
I have been using shotguns non-stop since cod 4 and i can honestly say i have never seen so much horse shit from any of the shotguns throughout the franchise.
Craigles4X4 2 months ago
This clip is the best example of how much shotguns suck in mw3.
TomTrix99 2 months ago
"Type 95 has been nerfed."
Apparently, 15% less hipfire accuracy is a nerf.
Takuthecheese 2 months ago
Did anybody know that the Type 95 is the main official NOOB GUN of MW3?
ultramegachicken1001 2 months ago
yeah i know im trying 2 use the model and get it good that BS happens all the time
TICTACFLAC 2 months ago
everyone tweet to fourzerotwo to buff the shotguns, they need it and all hes doing to shotguns is taking the ex mags glitch away:( if done it so many times but if everyone does it we have more of a chance, personally i think all the shotguns should be liek the Pre-patch mw2 1887's but thats not gonna happen. Every body tweet
Tweet: BUFF THE SHOTGUNS!
panteraboosh 2 months ago
i knwo the shotguns are useless( except the striker) trust iv got about 1500 kills with all except the 1887 and they are fucking awful, they have no place in this game, why would anyone pick a shotgun over and assault rifle or an smg or a sniper when they are all effective and ANY range where as the shotguns are limited to short range and cant even kill at that, the KSG 12 without damage is pretty much only a OHK at knife range, which renders it useless
panteraboosh 2 months ago
the models just suck lol dont use it
Ex0214 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Heres what i hear all the time wich is fucking ridiculous:
FMG9, Type 95, ACR6.8, Striker, UMP45, PP90, and so on..
if you cant handle getting owned by these guys that are "overpowered" then this game is just going to turn out like black ops.. NOTHING BUT FUCKING HIT MARKERS
stop the fucking patching of guns you are just going to make the game worse it will be black ops all over again where all the guns fell like they have the same power and it doesnt matter what gun they use..
DaBuGzLiFe 2 months ago
more n00bs headshots dont multiply damage for shotguns meaning headshots do the same damage and not as much pellets are hitting you because the head is smaller DUH!
TheEasyc 2 months ago
That was bullshit!!! He didnt even get a headshot with that Type95. It normally takes me 2 direct burst with that gun for me to get a kill like that. Something isnt right. That shotgun should have gotten the kill. They messed up on all of the shotguns in this game. Thats it im gettin BF3!!! >:(
MrHenry757 2 months ago 3
Iw give us the option to change cartrige as a weapon mod e.g slug for range buck for spread etc when i get no scoped in cqb against a fucking shotgun you know it needs sortin
spenceriow 2 months ago
It was a pain in the ass, but I got everything for my SPAS12. Getting Damage proficiency and extended magazines on the SPAS12 are just worth it.
5Branden5 2 months ago
This is one of the few reasons why I hate MW3. They made the shotguns as primary weapons but they are pieces of SHIT. Except for the Striker.
marcusduck 2 months ago
Type 95 is a sniper,submachine,and rifle all in one, Massive damage, High fire rate, and that bullcrap no recoil 55 point damage shot.
spycrabify 2 months ago 8
@spycrabify not forgetting that it can kill quicker than a shotgun thus rendering a shotgun useless :D
basically all rockets n00b tubes & shotguns are rarely used because they are extremely under powered so they are useless in the game... the new IW devs are incredibly stupid if they cant even balance these weapons.
MasterFProductions 2 months ago 15
@MasterFProductions um, RPG still owns enough though, definitely because you can shoot 2 of them
3628800258 2 months ago
@MasterFProductions And that's because idiots like you complained the fuck out of them in previous games. Thanks to you the next game will have 3-round burst weapons that'll take like 5 bursts to kill at close range. Are you shitheads ever satisfied? You want the grenades to be weaker after MW2, but now you want them better in MW3... -.- Hypocrites.
iKazedGames 1 month ago
@MasterFProductions Holy fuck. If that happens to me I swear my nipples are gunna get so hard that I will fucking explode.
ThatWhiteGuy97 1 month ago
@MasterFProductions the RPG is still the RPG and you feel like a champ when you snipe someone with it. and many times, idk why, but if you hip fire the shot gun it does more damage/accuracy.
frankophonee 1 month ago
@MasterFProductions Bitch they are already balanced! no fucking way in hell would irl would you ever fucking see a sotgun shot straight to the head kill someone!the only way you can kill someone irl is by quickscoping! IW was begging for me and my buddies at sledge hammer, treyarch and activision to increase shotgun and explosive damage, but the community at my twitter account stood up and owned their unbalanced asses!
402Robertbowling 3 weeks ago
@MasterFProductions this was not as bullshit than this story, mw2 Spas 12, stopping power point blank back of the head, hit marker, i was standing behind him and a hit marker, i switched to PC after that, less hacks
FSXflyer12 1 hour ago
you have be noobed here
MetaleiroTurret 2 months ago
Its not a muskettoon, kids these days... sorry for the mass messaging
TheDDAnderson 2 months ago
And the second thing is, u cant blame on the spread, in that range, bullets from pellet are very tight!
TheDDAnderson 2 months ago
i Totaly agree, A headshot with shotgun better do Pumpkin Puree!
The rang could be longer too, h would have died anyway!
TheDDAnderson 2 months ago
This is why i dont play cod.. LMAO.. Fuck can somone please make a good game nowadays.. Holy shit..l The only good game in the world right now is minecraft
AbleDreamz 2 months ago
the thing is ur bullet spread would have barely hit him if his head was right in the middle of the iron sight it would have been a kill. It doesn't matter how close range it is if the bullets don't hit
The55Guy1 2 months ago
well he was wearing a helmet...
stryderzer0 2 months ago
use steady aim and fire from the hip 100% of the time and shottys in mw3 become much better.....problem is everyone is used to ADS all the time with the spas in mw2....
spyderxtra777 2 months ago
I have to say that, you do need to hit the center of player. Buuuut, also Type 95 is pretty riddicilous gun! Look at that! Hipfire 2 shot kill!
Arppis 2 months ago
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I'm just surprised he killed you with two bullets
DarCetusFilmsss 2 months ago
they nerfed shotguns??
....why?
brainwasher9876 3 months ago
You think this is bad? I have proof of getting 3 hitmarks with this gun at less than half the distance shown here. 4 shots were needed. All to the head and aimed in properly.
MajinArenahappypants 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I've just released a MW3 Shotgun Guide, a lot of people are really disappointed with the shotguns so i thought i would give a few tips and setup guide to help you guys out, please check that out <3
MARV3LPRODUCTIONS 3 months ago
God damn rate of fire! XD
Emptyssify 3 months ago 6
@iiDied ok if you're so confident that this wouldn't kill you in real life the how about i shoot you in the head in real life with a shotgun at close range... let's see if the spread will make you survive or see if your head gets blown away.
MasterFProductions 3 months ago 14
@MasterFProductions Well Mr. Ragemuch, no one was debating whether or not a REAL LIFE shotgun would kill at that range. In a game that the longet distance is still lethal range for a real life shotgun, you have to nerf it down a bit. Spread for a shotgun the way it is in a game means that you have to hit center mass to make sure most of your shot hit (since that is the way damage is calculated) since only 3 at best hit him, he is only looking at BEST CASE SCENARIO 50 damage. Only half his health
Blackc47ears 3 months ago 5
@Blackc47ears not raging, i'm just saying at the range i shot at, his teeth shouldn't be the only thing he should be worried about.. it makes you think that what is the point in using a shotgun if every other gun can kill someone quicker than a shotgun at close range?
MasterFProductions 3 months ago 2
@MasterFProductions I agree. While leveling it up, Ive ADS and hit a guy running at me in a straight line CENTER MASS and it didnt kill him. It put him critical mind you, but I died. Dont know if he had bullet proof vest on or what, but I get allot of fuckery like that which that gun.
vamtheanomaly 2 months ago
@MasterFProductions haha of course this wil kill you in real life lool
HOWZZ3 2 months ago
@MasterFProductions idiot in the game head shots for shotguns do not have a multiplyer if you aim for the body directly and hit them with every pellet w/ damage or not you will score a garrenteed 1 hit kill :)
psyenergy1 2 months ago
@psyenergy1 who needs a fucking multiplier at that range u idiot!
MasterFProductions 2 months ago
@MasterFProductions but that would be unbalanced! only infinity ward would believe that! sledgehammer games knows how to handle shotgun.
stryderzer0 1 month ago
@MasterFProductions Snap!
keithdyah 3 weeks ago
this is why i stopped playing call of duty
N1NJ4F15H 3 months ago
That clip just pissed me off
BBoy710 3 months ago
Dude, look at the wall behind him. Half the shot missed him completely, if not more. I'm not saying that shotguns are good in this (the spaz is atrocious at best) but this is anything but proof.
Blackc47ears 3 months ago
@Blackc47ears Look at where he AIMED and the damage it did. The fact that the buck went elsewhere IS proof- gj buddy.
iiDied 3 months ago
@iiDied No... the fact that the buck went all over mean he is using a SHOTGUN. Even in real life (and especially in a game) shot from a SG has major spread. And from what I have seen it also likes to spread out fanlike and not paintlike (flat a opposed to radial). So it is fully possible he dragged up to much when going for a headhot (as opposed to just going for the easy body shot) and the spread fanned out over the enemies head. Something that WOULD have killed if it was a chest shot.
Blackc47ears 3 months ago
@Blackc47ears No, in real life, shotguns have a kill range of about 30 feet. This would be OP in a game like CoD, so it should be around 13 feet. The spread is huge, yes, but if the damage and range of a shotgun should be reduced, the spread should be concentrated to increase the one shot kill range. For a start, look at the damage it did. The guy barely flinched, no matter where that's hitting, it's not even close to a good amount of damage.
iiDied 3 months ago
@iiDied Like I said they can't make SGs like IRL, BUT if you were to, say, make the spread the same as a shotgun that has shot from 40-50 feet away (30 feet even a .22 round can kill so lets but more range on that) the n yes it WOULD spread out like that, and being that the individual shot is what creats the damage, if only a few hit than that what damages him. Counting the shot that hit the wall behind him its like 5-6, an a spaz shoots 8 shot (mw2 stats) so that means only 3 at best hit.
Blackc47ears 3 months ago
@iiDied lol you don't even know what your talking about. I OWN two shotguns, a Winchester 780 Pump with a 22 in barrel with no choke which i use for bear protection and the other a Lamber O/U with a 1/2 choke which I use for trap shooting. Let me tell you, that with any ounce size of buckshot which is what they use in COD, it would kill you at any range as long as the pellets hit the target. They don't have a killing range of "30 ft." If they did, what would be the point of them?
Ketchikanful 3 months ago
@iiDied shot guns in real life have very varied range...the effective range of the AA-12 for example is 200 freaking yards.
brainwasher9876 3 months ago
sent it mw3 forum
jacck123 3 months ago
send this to IW.. they need to patch it ASAP..
GetSheezOn 3 months ago
did you have the damage proficiency?
CookieMonsta1610 3 months ago 2
@CookieMonsta1610 no but at that range, & it was a headshot, it shouldn't be necessary
MasterFProductions 3 months ago 3
That wasn't fair, or realistic in the least.
joblo1978 3 months ago
give more example not just this one derpwad
shagingmaster35 3 months ago
@shagingmaster35 I have a gameplay on my fileshare. 4 and 5 hit kills weren't uncommon, from the hip w/ steady aim at 3-5 yards, ADS at similar ranges... can't lie, they suck and you denying it because you prefer your do-all rapid fire SMG or Silenced AR doesn't change a thing.
iiDied 3 months ago
mw3 just sucks thats why...
MAYBE12FLY 3 months ago
is this the free theatre mode?
XxGRuBxPuNiSHeRxX 3 months ago
pathetic
another game made for fags with no skill using cheap spray guns
2 hits to kill with a spray gun on a normal mod?!
and 1887 looked great in mw2,here they look like shit
and no aikimbo? lol fuck you
also bolt snipers look like shit
TheSUBGAMER 3 months ago
Snipers next plox!
xXxReplicatexXx 3 months ago
so this is the proof? lol a slowed down to 30 second clip of you getting one hitmarker?
j0hn78121 3 months ago
@j0hn78121 it might of just been one of the many BS moments CoD loves to deliver to us.
j0hn78121 3 months ago
@j0hn78121 Nope, there's ALOT of gameplay of shotguns sucking ass in this game. Even with the Range or Damage proficiency. NO reason to use them, just like Black Ops. Fuck IW. They weaken Shotguns, make them Primaries, and other bullshit like keeping Deathstreaks in. It COULD have been the best CoD yet, but nope, IW is run by retards or something.
IPwnAllAndLeaveNone 3 months ago
DAMNIT!
They ruined the model in this game too...
Just because akimbo was overpowered doesn't mean you have to make the single version of it the worst gun ever.
OhMyParry 3 months ago