Rejection of Narra Haidari by Pir Allaudin Siddiquie

[farhan1215]

ya ali madad as

[farhan1215]

jeo peer naserudeen

[mirpur1978]

iam a sunni and i will 100 times say YA ALI YA ALI., the prophet himself said ya ali,, but hazrat umar, hazrat usman and hazrat abu bakr do have a status but they cant reach maula ali. u cant ask help from the other 3.

[5tan1214]

Imam Ali (as) has a bigger status than any of the other companions in every way possible. No competition sorry to say.

[farhan1215]

ya ali madad as



[chishty786]

than the 4 khulafa rashida...only the one who is higher can judge status...these peers mullah are a lower maqam than sahaba, tabaeen etc so they in no position to make BIG statements like this..look in the world the silsilas majority are originating from ali r,a...look at saints like data gunj bahsh, ghause azam, khawaja moinuddin, ahmed rifai etc rehmat on all of them..these are all ali r.a nasl...naqshbandi will always have more love for abu bakr ra naturally and qadiri, chishty, with ali r.a

[TheMrsunni]

@chishty786 excellent

[chishty786]

i personally dont believe this as abu bakr siddique is very high rank sahabi....and hadith of afzalul bashr is in their favour...but how is umar, or usman r.a with all due respect higher in status than ali r.a?? hazrat ali are always tried to put at a lowest level or a nobody...and abu bakr r.a is always bigged up...which is good but its not justice to ali r.a..any ways who are these molvis to decide who is afzal?? allah swt and nabi muhammad saw know better because they have higher maqam than

[chishty786]

he can stop his own murids from saying nara haydari...but sorry to say he cant stop us sunnis from saying yaa ali...he is forgeting hazrat ali r.a is also part of panj tan paak...i am over a time seeing that constantly within sunnis theres a afzaliat of the 4 khulafa rashida challenge going on....one group constantly keeps saying abu bakr r.a is next after prophet saw in maqam...others say the sequence of khilafat is the sequence of afzaliat and maqam...ie abu bakr, umar, usman, ali...

[PAK1Dynamite]

Naraaaa e HAIDARIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YA 'ALI !!!!!!!!

PUKAAR HAI PUKAAR HAI

SHER KI PUKAAR HAI !!!!

[proofsplasher]

@baig102 The video you have tried to promote has two sides,Hashmi Mian never says Haq Chaar Yaar in real life at home and outside always Ya Ali.Ask those who live close to him.On every grave of his parents the chadors cloth coverings and upon every Urs the chadors have the names Allah Muhammad Ali Fatima Hassan Hussain written upon them not a single one with Chaar Yaar. The same goes for the inscriptions written upon the graves and Mizaars, need I say more? He knows well the Nara of his fathers!

[mithooize]

yaar pir siddiqe saab ki taqreer zaman-e-jehalit ki hai , listen to him after September 2009 ,but now he is say NAR-E-HAIDRY - YAA ALI

[terytube]

welldone proofsplasher NARRA HAIDRI IS NARRA OF RASOOL ALLAH AND SUHABA KARAM new naqashabandi has prob with nara haidri YA ALI

[israrzari]

im not a mureed of this person, but i will argue with your comment, in naarey tahqeeq hazrat Ali is mentioned. WE who love narey haideri and claim to be sunni (lovers of the sahaba) should not have a problem with narey haidri or naray tahqeeq. we accept all

[proofsplasher]

@israrzari The problem is that some want to replace the Nara Haidari with the Haq Chaar Yaar which is wrong like if someone was to replace Nara Taqbir or Risaala with one they invent. As the first three naras are centuries old they should never be replaced. If some wishes to say Nara Tahqeeq yes by all means say it after Nara Haidari. Ali (as) name is NOT mentioned as haq chaar yaar answer does not contain the name of Ali (as) to the Nasibi the fourth yaar is Muawiyya ibn Abu Sufyaan !.

[proofsplasher]

@israrzari It is most important for the Ummah to say YA ALI loudly for it eats away munafqat and gives great strength to Iman and it was the Nara of the Sahaba e Iqraam. Hz Rizwaan (as) will ask people about Hz Ali (as) before they enter the gates of Jannat. He will say "may I ask you how did you love Imam Ali (as) ?"

[israrzari]

@proofsplasher Agreed I have no problem with that im just saying we shouldnt have a problem with naare tahqeeq!

[proofsplasher]

@israrzari Like I said we do not have a problem with Nara Tahqeeq only that it should be stated after Nara Haidari and the answer should be "Haq Sab Yaar" This would include all the companions not just four !. Jazak Allah

[mithooize]

PIR SIDDIQI IS DO NOT HAVY ANY EDUCATION LIKE ULMAA

[mahrzaheersial]

o my bros. actually nara haidri was invented by shias. who don't recognize any other khalifa i.e hazrat abubakar r.a, hazrat umar r.a. hazrat usman r.a. . y don't u understand. the real nara of a sunni must be nara tehqiq as we, sunnies are the followers of all four companions of nabi-e-pak s.a.w.w.. think about it all.

[proofsplasher]

@mahrzaheersial Nara Haidari existed long before Shias ever existed go and learn truth about Nara Tahqeeq which was a Ahle Hadieeth Nara who invented it to replace Nara Haidari as Nara Haidari was disliked by them because it mentioned the name of Moula Ali. The Ahle Hadieeth think that Yazeed would be forgiven and would be sent to Jannat !. The Ahe Hadeeith are in truth Ahle Yazeed. How can the Ahle Sunnah accept something invented by Ahle Yazeed to replace what was accepted by Ahle Muhammad !

[shahroseabbas]

SHAH AST HUSSAIN BAD SHAH AST HUSSAIN DEEN AST HUSSAIN DEEN PANA AST HUSSAIN SARDAD NA DAD DAR DASTE YAZID HAKA KE BINAYE LA ILLAH HA AST HUSSAIN! HAZRAT KHAWAJA GHARIB NAWAZ(RA) Ruler is Hussain, Emperor is Hussain, Faith is Hussain , guardian of faith is Hussain . Offered his head and not the hand to Yazid. Indeed, Hussain is the foundation of La-ilah (the declaration that none but God is Absolute and Almighty

[Northstar2811]

Erm Pir Siddiqui's so wrong....Even the Yaar said Maula Ali (kaw) is THEIR Maula lol!

[bilal824]

PIR SAHIB JITNA MERA ILM NAI HAI LAIKIN PIR SAHIB NARRA E HAIDERI TO SUNNIO KI PECHAAN HAI

[Northstar2811]

This guy's just trying to promote his own ancestor (Hazrat Abu Bakr As-Siddiq r.a.) which is embarassing. He is quite wrong when he alledges they all say 'Chaar'...Pir Nasirudin destroys this point lol

[sumkh3]

Ya ALI MADAD.

JO ALI KA WAFADAR NAI. WO ASAL BAP KI AULAD NAI.

[gali69]

That is bad. If he got problems with Narra Haidari then hes going to go towards hell man!

[bashgeo]

Ya Allah Ya rasool Allah ya Ali

[SoLdiEr786x]

lanat on those who are trying to stop nara Haideri as

nara tehqiq is not sunni nara its been invented by wahabis

Ali is afzal after Nabi saw and this is true aqeeda

[baig102]

@SoLdiEr786x negative brother, Abu Bakr Siddique (ra) is Afzal after Rasul Allah (saw). This is a fact and is confirmed by Ijma.

[proofsplasher]

@baig102 Again what is ment by Afzal ? According to All the Holy Prophet (saw-a) blessed blood is more afzal than any created being. This places the Children of Rasulullah (saw-a) the Ahle Bait through the blood as the highest as per saying of Bibi Ayesha (ra) who said that Bibi Fatima Al Zahra (as) are the highest after the Holy Prophet (saw-a). Fazilat (elevation high status) can be attained though blood and through good deeds and lastly fazal of Allah (swt) The Ahle Baiet (as) had all three!

[baig102]

@SoLdiEr786x The naara Tehqiq was not invented by wahhabis, there is no proof of this. Only the people og ghalt aqeeda forward this claim.

There is nothing wrong wih this naara, and only good can come of it.

[proofsplasher]

@baig102 Wrong what SoLdiEr786x is trying to say is that it was invented by Ahle Hadith Molvi Mazhar of Jang in Pakistan. Can you proof by name which Sunni Ulama ever invented it ? So using a fake narra which has never been used in Muslim lands is no use to Islam or the Muslims !. Highest medal of bravery in Pakstan and many Muslim countries is Nashaan e Haider !. Haq Sab Yaar makes more sense than Chaar as all Sahaba are HAQ ! and lastly Imam Hassan (as) are the fifth Khalifah e Rashid !.....

[baig102]

@proofsplasher (continued)...For example: Jews of Madinah used to fast on the 10th day of Muharram. They said that it was the day on which the Holy Prophet Musa (Moses), alayhis salam, and his followers crossed the Red Sea miraculously and the Pharaoh was drowned in its waters. On hearing this from the Jews, the Holy Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "We are more closely rotated to Musa, alayhi salam, than you," and directed the Muslims to fast on the day of 'Ashura'. (Abu Dawood)

[proofsplasher]

@baig102 Then the same argument applies that we should not go for replacing Nara Haidari with Tahqeeq just because people might call us Shias !. Yes take whatever is good but the motives behind the creation of Nara Tahqeeq were to create a Nara in place of Nara Haidari secondly it does not make any sense to just call four companions Haq ! Also because the word "Ya" is not there its the favourite of the Ahle Hadieeth. K. Rashideen are 5 not four who gave them the right to exclude Imam Hassan (as)

[baig102]

@proofsplasher people of wrong aqeeda put this forward, stated before. All narre were invented/created and for a specific purpose, and all help Ahlus Sunnah defend true aqeeda against transgressors. Naare Haideri is and will always be part of Ahlus Sunnah as will narre Tehqiq.

Your Opposition should be based on the content of the narra and not the inventor (no matter how dubious). Good deeds and acts should always be promoted especially if they induce love and respect for the Sahaba (ra)

[proofsplasher]

@baig102 The purpose of Nara Tahqeeq was to show the Shias that Not just Moula Ali (as) are Haq but all four are Haq but why exclude Imam Hassan as stated there are five Khulafah e Rashideen not four. Now looking closely at the inventers of Nara Tahqeeq it seems that the Ahle Hadieeth do not give any attention to the Khalafat of Imam Hassan (as) as it castes a shadow of doubt on the authority of the rulership Sultanat e Muawiyya please note that Hz Muawiyya was not a Khalifah but a King Sultan.

[proofsplasher]

@baig102 I continue, as stated that Hz Muawiyya was a Sultan not a Khalifah for the Ahle Hadieeth to accept Hz Imam Hassan (AS) as part of the Khulafaa e Rashideen it would amount to the rejection of Hz Muawiyya's rule. They have to accept Hz Muawiyya as a rightful ruler in order to justify him choosing Yazeed as his successor and their Amir ul momineen !. Do you know that the title of Amir ul Momineen was being used for Yazeed ? Who made him Amir of the momineen ? Yes Hz Muawiyya !. Why ???

[proofsplasher]

@baig102 It is easy to think that Nara Tahqeeq with its simple answer promotes the goodness of the first four Khalifahs but castes a shadow on the the rightful Khalafat of Imam Hassan Al Mutaba (as) who was called Imam (leader) by no other than the Holy Prophet (saw-a) himself. Also the leader of the youth of Paradise as was his younger brother Hussain (as) While Imam Hassan and Hussain (as) are alive how could anyonee call themselves or anyone else as Amir ul Momineen ?. The title of Moula Ali!

[proofsplasher]

@baig102 It would be seen as gross amount of injustice that Yazeed be promoted to the title of Amir ul Momineen at the same time while Imam Hussain (as) lived. The main reason behind it was to give religious spiritual authority to Yazeed. Hence he made laws to change what was haraam into halaal. Yazeed was a son of a Christian mother who taught him nothing but the hatred of Islam and the love of dogs and monkeys. As the Ahle Ba'ait were the reps of Islam they became his favourite targets. ...