@ZENX49 Yes I c ur point now. I don't want a remake. Look what Square Enix did to Chrono Trigger for the DS. They changed it. And they'll do the same to Xenogears if given the chance.
I would love for them to keep all the same gameplay, dialogue and anime sequences and MOST definitely the music...but if they completely updated the graphics...How cool would that be? I'd love it, but I still love the original so much.
No story of any game has pulled me in like this game did with this song. It almost transitioned perfectly when the first time you were with Bart and you fell through the floor and talked with Balthazar.
Xenogears' translation is better than most. Be happy with it. As far as the second disc and the lack of a remake, blame squaresoft. Greedy bastards wouldn't fund it to completion and won't sell the rights to the game to its original creators. Because of that and the absence of some key figures from the original team, Xenosaga didn't have the same magic that Xenogears did.
The problem is that they have different rhythms and structures. That being said, the translators of the games and anime could honestly do a much better job. Just look at the fansubbers. Their work, on average, is a level higher than that of the translators hired by the companies who license japanese products in north america. Even so, if you tried to read the fansubs outloud without the japanese voices, it still feels awkward in english, but much less so than most "professional" dubs.
As far as the tranlsation goes, I'm fluent in both japanese and english, and I can tell you that the translations for games and anime are almost always second rate. Getting a comparable level of acting from english voice actors is impossible. English is a cumbersome language to begin with and is very hard to inject emotion into. Going from japanese to english, you lose a lot of the feeling of the dialogue. Going from english to japanese usually feels over the top or longwinded.
@SedoKai 100% agree. going from a subbed original seiyuu to a dubbed voice over sometimes is a rocky process. A lot of the original emotion (which is sometimes wonderfully eccentric) portrayed by the seiyuu is lost in the dub.
@TheAngelvictus yea ur right. Wonder what happened to the guys that worked on it? Maybe if they remade the game for the PSP it might work. I mean the first two Starocean games got remade for it. What do u think?
@Kuroneko388 The people responsible for making Xenogears migrated to a company named Monolith Soft, where they made the poorly-received, prematurely-terminated spiritual successor Xenosaga series. They've also made Xenoblade, a Japan-only RPG for the Wii that was not (and will never be) licensed for release in North America.
Xeno and RPG fans, August 19 is a big day for both U.S. and European gamers: The critically acclaimed Xenoblade will hit Europe's shelves. I'm trying to spread the word to get sales higher, because these sales will determine whether or not the game will hit U.S. shelves too. At the same time on that day, it is important that all those who have not pre-ordered Xenoblade, or Monado: Beginning of the World, in the U.S. do so then and attempt to push it back to number 1! oprainfall.blogspot.com.
@theburningattack especially at the beginning of disk 2 where you are forced to fight continously without a place to upgrade or heal, until know i cannot belive i passed that part of the game lol
@theburningattack what i found good about this game is even when you levelled up like crazy, the gear battles didn't get any easier :P Other than getting all the deathblows which then transfer to the gears also, human battling and levelling was in no way connected with gear battles...which made the really tough gear boss battles, like opiomorph and even grahf's alpha weltall, (which beside popular opinion - can be beat!) ridiculously difficult!
@Kuroneko388 no way. they (sqenix) would fuk that up too, like they did FF. the game is awesome the way it is. why try and perfect something that is perfect?
@Kuroneko388 But if they remake it, they need to bring it up to Xenosaga quality, and add voices. In fact, go beyond that... do whatever you can to make this a visceral masterpiece, because it already IS a story masterpiece. And for the love of god, flesh out the events in disc 2! So sadly short...
OMG i miss this game. I remember beign so obsessed I had literally EVERYTHING, and still tons and tons of GIL, laying around. X triangle X FTW with FEI
This is one of my favorite tracks. It made me so frustrated with random battles just to cut from this music that I'd just sit there not moving or stay on the non-combat areas as long as possible.
Fuck I can go forever !! Jewish Text ... Kabbalah Zohar Engineering Biotech World Dominations New world order!! Archaeology Ancient books--- soo interested in them now! cant stop researching them So much in this game It change my life Lmfao LOL!. It was because of the story and the character dialogue!!!!!! that made me like this..
Also one important thing people have no fucking clue about this game! Everything almost everything is taking from our world. Every source of knowledge to technological to the inquisitions and aliens!! 1998!!! First time hearing about Nanotechnology.. Now it famous Never knew the pope had assassins well now I know!(inquisitions) Fist time here about secret society.. Well now I do ( German Stasi, to other) Drugs Robots Martial Arts Books!! now I read 1 book a month! Nietzsche (lets kill god) ETC!
@XXXXNanoXXXxxx i have nintendo 8 and 16 bit,sega 8 and 16 bit . sony playstation and playstation 2 and Xbox 360 and i say there ARE 70+ RPG`s out there
@XXXXNanoXXXxxx This game has awesome music. The story can't even touch a lot of visual novels/books though. The concept is cool and interesting events happen, but overall I thought the character dialogue was terrible and it made me laugh all the time when it was trying to be serious. Disappointing that even the games with the best writing still have almost bad writing.
@eviltube1111 Are you serious? Lets do a 101.. This game is the best Rpg ever made hands down! Best music, 3d polygon around 1998 was amazing. Gameplay was flawless. And the main part the story.. The story was thee greatest story with character plot development in gaming history! The story derives all sources from ancient mystical myths etc. The characters were amazing!. Lets pick Fei. Fei feeling and nature of him can be trace from Sigmud Freud to Wong Fei-hung a famous martial artist! part 1
@eviltube1111 Part 2 ... Fei Fong Wong.... Had so much character development in him its almost insane to think twice. Look up Wong Fei-hung that fei there with freuds traits and issues amazing. Also having aviators with a body is also great. Allmost all the chacaters were well developed. The story cant be touch like u sad. even hollywood movies cant compare to the depth of this game. I did not find the dialogue cheezy or terrible. It was superb!! part 2
@eviltube1111 Part 3 When u say the talking was terrible I feel sad for u. The game was never stalling always going. Trying to solve problems. And the most important was trying to give ideas or examples of the hardest questions. What is Love, religion,politics, etc etc.. I played this game over 10 times never found it cheezy here or there. The story drives it self from old jewish text and the kabbalah also with tuff philosophical ideas and thought and u say the dialogue was bad LMFAO!!
@eviltube1111 I sort of can understand your point about the dialogue (feeling preachy at times) but that's always relevant in JRPGs so it doesn't really bother me. What probably made the dialogue seem unbearable and bothered me the most was the bad translation (and it was bad). It felt so lazy. It's one thing to translate it, it's another to translate in a proper sense to fit the English language.
@deadpisser88 if you knew anything about linguistics or the Japanese language, you would know that its impossible to get a direct translation from Japanese to English. Direct translations wouldnt make any sense which is why companies paid to translate games from Japanese to English have to change it up a little bit. you might want to rethink about how hard it is to provide translations before you call it "lazy"
@eclipsed1001 hahahaha i couldnt have said it better my self :) best RPG ever made, period. no game even gets close to being as deep as this game. and the music just makes it that much better. its only rival in my opinion is FF7 and even it cant come close to the greatness of Xenogears.
i bet you ten times outa ten Id will kick sephiroths ass.
@AkumetsuLord Yea I thank god for that.
Kuroneko388 3 weeks ago
This game was so complex and detailed with regards to the story and the characters; yet the sequels pale horribly by comparison.
TheLurker101 3 weeks ago
@ZENX49 Yes I c ur point now. I don't want a remake. Look what Square Enix did to Chrono Trigger for the DS. They changed it. And they'll do the same to Xenogears if given the chance.
Kuroneko388 1 month ago
@Kuroneko388 that wasn't much of a REMAKE but just a port, besides they don't even own the rights to the game anymore
AkumetsuLord 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
deus is like a maze
Msuits5 2 months ago
@Bushido21XX Yea I don't think they'll remake it. Too much work would have to b done with it to make it work.
Kuroneko388 2 months ago
@Kuroneko388 It is because this game was such a masterpiece, that remaking it could never do it justice.
ZENX49 1 month ago
Tower of Babel... best level in the game
MurakamiTenshi 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
the first memory It cane to me was when all the people of the town turned into monsters that was so sad...
Chronozeal2469 2 months ago in playlist Xenogears soundtrack
I would love for them to keep all the same gameplay, dialogue and anime sequences and MOST definitely the music...but if they completely updated the graphics...How cool would that be? I'd love it, but I still love the original so much.
dontreallycare122 4 months ago in playlist Game Music
this song if I remember it plays when you hear the story of the slayer of god gear from the old man.
It also plays in the tower of Babel and also when you raise the sunken ship where Deus is dormant if Im correct.
mechaart 4 months ago
No story of any game has pulled me in like this game did with this song. It almost transitioned perfectly when the first time you were with Bart and you fell through the floor and talked with Balthazar.
McScreamo 5 months ago
Xenogears' translation is better than most. Be happy with it. As far as the second disc and the lack of a remake, blame squaresoft. Greedy bastards wouldn't fund it to completion and won't sell the rights to the game to its original creators. Because of that and the absence of some key figures from the original team, Xenosaga didn't have the same magic that Xenogears did.
SedoKai 5 months ago
The problem is that they have different rhythms and structures. That being said, the translators of the games and anime could honestly do a much better job. Just look at the fansubbers. Their work, on average, is a level higher than that of the translators hired by the companies who license japanese products in north america. Even so, if you tried to read the fansubs outloud without the japanese voices, it still feels awkward in english, but much less so than most "professional" dubs.
SedoKai 5 months ago
As far as the tranlsation goes, I'm fluent in both japanese and english, and I can tell you that the translations for games and anime are almost always second rate. Getting a comparable level of acting from english voice actors is impossible. English is a cumbersome language to begin with and is very hard to inject emotion into. Going from japanese to english, you lose a lot of the feeling of the dialogue. Going from english to japanese usually feels over the top or longwinded.
SedoKai 5 months ago
@SedoKai 100% agree. going from a subbed original seiyuu to a dubbed voice over sometimes is a rocky process. A lot of the original emotion (which is sometimes wonderfully eccentric) portrayed by the seiyuu is lost in the dub.
MurakamiTenshi 4 months ago
@TheAngelvictus yea ur right. Wonder what happened to the guys that worked on it? Maybe if they remade the game for the PSP it might work. I mean the first two Starocean games got remade for it. What do u think?
Kuroneko388 6 months ago
@Kuroneko388 The people responsible for making Xenogears migrated to a company named Monolith Soft, where they made the poorly-received, prematurely-terminated spiritual successor Xenosaga series. They've also made Xenoblade, a Japan-only RPG for the Wii that was not (and will never be) licensed for release in North America.
ExoditeDragon 6 months ago
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Xeno and RPG fans, August 19 is a big day for both U.S. and European gamers: The critically acclaimed Xenoblade will hit Europe's shelves. I'm trying to spread the word to get sales higher, because these sales will determine whether or not the game will hit U.S. shelves too. At the same time on that day, it is important that all those who have not pre-ordered Xenoblade, or Monado: Beginning of the World, in the U.S. do so then and attempt to push it back to number 1! oprainfall.blogspot.com.
FireEmblemForevah 6 months ago
@isop9021 Amen to that ^_^
Kuroneko388 7 months ago
@theburningattack especially at the beginning of disk 2 where you are forced to fight continously without a place to upgrade or heal, until know i cannot belive i passed that part of the game lol
abulrezq 7 months ago
@theburningattack what i found good about this game is even when you levelled up like crazy, the gear battles didn't get any easier :P Other than getting all the deathblows which then transfer to the gears also, human battling and levelling was in no way connected with gear battles...which made the really tough gear boss battles, like opiomorph and even grahf's alpha weltall, (which beside popular opinion - can be beat!) ridiculously difficult!
zwady 8 months ago
Horrid rope swinging/platforming in the Tower of Babel. Did not want.
VeryBoring 8 months ago 18
@theburningattack Fuckin' Opiomorph.
BrimstoneLandscapes 9 months ago
There will never b a game as great as Xenogears. They should remake it.
Kuroneko388 9 months ago 31
@Kuroneko388 or just finish making disk 2 ;)
isop9021 7 months ago
@Kuroneko388 no way. they (sqenix) would fuk that up too, like they did FF. the game is awesome the way it is. why try and perfect something that is perfect?
TheAngelvictus 6 months ago
@Kuroneko388 No thank you, I don't want it ruined. It's a masterpiece as it is.
moonflash007 5 months ago
@moonflash007 an incomplete masterpiece... this was part 5 of 6. and they shafted us on disc 2. I love the game, but would love a remake.
unsupa 5 months ago
@Kuroneko388 But if they remake it, they need to bring it up to Xenosaga quality, and add voices. In fact, go beyond that... do whatever you can to make this a visceral masterpiece, because it already IS a story masterpiece. And for the love of god, flesh out the events in disc 2! So sadly short...
Bushido21XX 2 months ago
OMG i miss this game. I remember beign so obsessed I had literally EVERYTHING, and still tons and tons of GIL, laying around. X triangle X FTW with FEI
akers9303 10 months ago
This is one of my favorite tracks. It made me so frustrated with random battles just to cut from this music that I'd just sit there not moving or stay on the non-combat areas as long as possible.
AnsinJung 11 months ago
What the fuck is wrong with these people in the comments talking about religion and shit?
This is a game, not a church, if you want to discuss this, go somewhere else.
KiteNamikaze 11 months ago 4
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
BABEL!!!!
rhandom768 1 year ago
also inside Babel i believe
xenojaker 1 year ago
ive played many RPG games about 70 but not one of all ive played even came close to be as great as XENOGEARS the story and the music is truly EPIC :D
Zartaxion 1 year ago
@Zartaxion y u lie there not even 70 rpgs out there!
I played at least 20-25
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
@XXXXNanoXXXxxx i have nintendo 8 and 16 bit,sega 8 and 16 bit . sony playstation and playstation 2 and Xbox 360 and i say there ARE 70+ RPG`s out there
Zartaxion 1 year ago
@XXXXNanoXXXxxx This game has awesome music. The story can't even touch a lot of visual novels/books though. The concept is cool and interesting events happen, but overall I thought the character dialogue was terrible and it made me laugh all the time when it was trying to be serious. Disappointing that even the games with the best writing still have almost bad writing.
eviltube1111 1 year ago
@eviltube1111 Are you serious? Lets do a 101.. This game is the best Rpg ever made hands down! Best music, 3d polygon around 1998 was amazing. Gameplay was flawless. And the main part the story.. The story was thee greatest story with character plot development in gaming history! The story derives all sources from ancient mystical myths etc. The characters were amazing!. Lets pick Fei. Fei feeling and nature of him can be trace from Sigmud Freud to Wong Fei-hung a famous martial artist! part 1
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
@XXXXNanoXXXxxx I'm not reading all your shit, pal. Try to narrow down your comments next time.
eviltube1111 1 year ago
@eviltube1111 LMFAO! no point then end of discussion.
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
@eviltube1111 Part 2 ... Fei Fong Wong.... Had so much character development in him its almost insane to think twice. Look up Wong Fei-hung that fei there with freuds traits and issues amazing. Also having aviators with a body is also great. Allmost all the chacaters were well developed. The story cant be touch like u sad. even hollywood movies cant compare to the depth of this game. I did not find the dialogue cheezy or terrible. It was superb!! part 2
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
@eviltube1111 Part 3 When u say the talking was terrible I feel sad for u. The game was never stalling always going. Trying to solve problems. And the most important was trying to give ideas or examples of the hardest questions. What is Love, religion,politics, etc etc.. I played this game over 10 times never found it cheezy here or there. The story drives it self from old jewish text and the kabbalah also with tuff philosophical ideas and thought and u say the dialogue was bad LMFAO!!
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
@eviltube1111 I sort of can understand your point about the dialogue (feeling preachy at times) but that's always relevant in JRPGs so it doesn't really bother me. What probably made the dialogue seem unbearable and bothered me the most was the bad translation (and it was bad). It felt so lazy. It's one thing to translate it, it's another to translate in a proper sense to fit the English language.
deadpisser88 8 months ago
@deadpisser88 if you knew anything about linguistics or the Japanese language, you would know that its impossible to get a direct translation from Japanese to English. Direct translations wouldnt make any sense which is why companies paid to translate games from Japanese to English have to change it up a little bit. you might want to rethink about how hard it is to provide translations before you call it "lazy"
StupidGuhji 5 months ago
@eclipsed1001
:D
LeonardoZuccarelli 1 year ago
@eclipsed1001 hahahaha i couldnt have said it better my self :) best RPG ever made, period. no game even gets close to being as deep as this game. and the music just makes it that much better. its only rival in my opinion is FF7 and even it cant come close to the greatness of Xenogears.
i bet you ten times outa ten Id will kick sephiroths ass.
LeonardoZuccarelli 1 year ago
@LeonardoZuccarelli Id vs Sephiroth would be a really interesting battle to see. Two of the biggest badass psychos in RPG history
Solvanderlyn 1 year ago
@Solvanderlyn Sephiroth is not a badass hes a pussy, a little bitch who summons the slowest comet in video game history !!!
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
@LeonardoZuccarelli No contest. Sephiroth would fall.
InanimateRunetotem 1 year ago
Ye shall be as Gods... :P
FirstSword1 2 years ago
this is a masterpiece
aaRulas 2 years ago