@hfcpa36 Why do you include Mary in the same list as the Holy Trinity? Mary is no goddess. She was blessed, indeed, but she was also a normal human being, a sinner in need of salvation like all of us.
@ccoraxfan i am aware of that, am i not entitled to enjoy this piece of music and derive from it what i see and feel and think? Good heavens people, stop criticising others and just enjoy the music!!!
@ccoraxfan True she ought not be listed in the Holy Trinity. But to say that the BVM is "a normal human being, a sinner in need of salvation like all of us" is simply wrong. She was immaculately conceived; therefore, she is not a normal human being and ipso facto is not in need of salvation like the rest of mankind. Base your personal conjectures on facts and not subjective feelings. Seek the absolute truth of anything and it will change your mind even as difficult as it might be. Pax te cum
@captainmorgan757 I didn't realise the Virgin Mary was Immaculately conceived. She conceived Immaculately, yes, but did she not have two parents like the rest of us?
@olialto7 Actually, I think you misunderstand the Immaculate conception. It actually means she was concieved without original sin. So, her parents were not a part of this it was a miracle of God to prepare her for bearing Christ in her womb for nine months.
@olialto7: Catholic teaching states that she was born without Original sin as so to give birth to a perfect sinless Jesus Christ. She had two parents, yet God decided to remove Original sin from her. Protestant teaching denies this though and says that Mary was just a normal person with Original sin. They state that Jesus didn't need anything outside himself to affect his perfection.
I can not imagine a more beautiful piece of music EVER written! Paid for and advocated by the Church! Beautiful beyond words! FEEL IT! It's friggin remarkable. Beatus vir or "His beauty!" is the most profound piece of music in our canon of music...the finest piece EVER written by ANYONE...um...EVER! It's simple, it's emotional, it's gorgeous...like a fine painting...it IS the Mona Lisa of Sacred Christian music...of HUMAN culture. It is divine! AND I'm an atheist! :D lol
Since the model for this piece ("Chiome d'oro" ) is often taken at a really fast clip, there are some who feel this piece must be done at the same pace. I tend to disagree-- I would take this work a *shade* or two faster HOWEVER. . .that being said, this is beautifully done, with careful and sensitive attention to details like phrasing blend, diction, etc, and there is no denying the joy and conviviality of the music, or the skill of the performers and their interpretation.
Monteverdi was right at the tail edge of the Renaissance, and so it's almost certain that the relationship between the 4/4 and 3/4 sections was a fixed proportion. They key to finding a good tempo for this piece is to figure out that proportion, then select a tempo where the 4/4 sections aren't too slow and the 3/4 section isn't too fast. Of course you also have to figure in the acoustics of the hall, as lots of reverb would muddy and blur the notes in a fast tempo.
If one of those 'mainstream' artists finds this unmistakably wonderful piece of art, and 'remakes' it, I will be utterky furious.
I cant wait for an opportunity to be apart of a Chorale that would perform this properly. Just as these fine musicians have done.
In my opinon the tempo is impeccable at most times, but at others it seems a bit fast for the period. Does anyone know who conducted or performed this piece? I would love to download there works
Thank you for this offering! We did this in college choir, as humble as it was, and everyone loved it! The instruments add so much to the impact of this psalm. I enjoy all your postings...thanks again! Fr. Joseph H.
I find the square tempo perfect: one has to let the harmony/counterpoint sink in; doing this one can understand the joy of "beatus" as a harmonious one, in harmony with nature, counterpoint, etc, but I agree that the triple time might be more jubilant, dancing - and you can stretch it a bit then for the fusae.
I think it's too slow, and I'm studying monteverdi now. I think it's all up to interpretation, but I certainly know that chiome d'oro (where the violin melodies are taken from) would be slightly faster
@01jocooper understand that in the "modern age" listening perception has been changed: the modern brain needs fast beats, adrenaline and agresiveness.
beautiful music, but whose the painter of the magnificent image? It has many similarities with Murrillo's Virgin, but there are a few changes; it seems clean enough to be a bouguereau, but i can't seem to find this painting on a simple google image search! Any information on the painting?
One of my favorites. Thank you for posting!
agoodcomposer 2 weeks ago
sublim
leridab 3 weeks ago in playlist Liked videos
4 people are certainly not "beatus" (i don't know how 2 properly conjugate the Latin).
s2p3c 3 weeks ago
thumbs up if your here for your college listning test!!!!
senzers69 1 month ago 3
My school chorale is doing this song :3
teencomment 2 months ago
@teencomment Same thing here :D High five :)
tornadomannen2 4 days ago
Absolutely love this piece *sigh*
PerPassione 3 months ago
genius! brilliant genius!
GeneralDomination 4 months ago
M e r a v i g l i o s o ! ! !
giuppagiuppa 4 months ago
It's such a flowing piece! It's Lovely (and yes, the capital "L" was intentional).
NemoProkofiev551 5 months ago
Very difficult to sing but totally worth it when you get it right!
PippinRally 5 months ago in playlist UWE Music Group Tunes
wow monteverdi was a master
googlekopfkind 7 months ago
Beautiful interpretation.
susansashiko 7 months ago
this is mezmerising! beautiful, all to the Praise of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and The Blessed Virgin Mary!!
hfcpa36 7 months ago
@hfcpa36 Shut up! Ignorant Christian, get a brain!
alifeofreason 6 months ago
@alifeofreason
This is a video of Monteverdis music. Get a brain.
rallestar1 4 months ago
@hfcpa36 Why do you include Mary in the same list as the Holy Trinity? Mary is no goddess. She was blessed, indeed, but she was also a normal human being, a sinner in need of salvation like all of us.
ccoraxfan 5 months ago
@ccoraxfan i am aware of that, am i not entitled to enjoy this piece of music and derive from it what i see and feel and think? Good heavens people, stop criticising others and just enjoy the music!!!
hfcpa36 5 months ago
@ccoraxfan True she ought not be listed in the Holy Trinity. But to say that the BVM is "a normal human being, a sinner in need of salvation like all of us" is simply wrong. She was immaculately conceived; therefore, she is not a normal human being and ipso facto is not in need of salvation like the rest of mankind. Base your personal conjectures on facts and not subjective feelings. Seek the absolute truth of anything and it will change your mind even as difficult as it might be. Pax te cum
captainmorgan757 4 months ago
@captainmorgan757 I didn't realise the Virgin Mary was Immaculately conceived. She conceived Immaculately, yes, but did she not have two parents like the rest of us?
olialto7 3 months ago
@olialto7 Actually, I think you misunderstand the Immaculate conception. It actually means she was concieved without original sin. So, her parents were not a part of this it was a miracle of God to prepare her for bearing Christ in her womb for nine months.
dgerszewski 2 months ago
@olialto7: Catholic teaching states that she was born without Original sin as so to give birth to a perfect sinless Jesus Christ. She had two parents, yet God decided to remove Original sin from her. Protestant teaching denies this though and says that Mary was just a normal person with Original sin. They state that Jesus didn't need anything outside himself to affect his perfection.
RockyBalboa211 1 month ago
this is so boring, Zzz
piappi1 8 months ago
Amazing piece! And performed really well!
stephanesmeijer 8 months ago
Divinely beautiful!
TheChiesa 8 months ago in playlist Classica
I can not imagine a more beautiful piece of music EVER written! Paid for and advocated by the Church! Beautiful beyond words! FEEL IT! It's friggin remarkable. Beatus vir or "His beauty!" is the most profound piece of music in our canon of music...the finest piece EVER written by ANYONE...um...EVER! It's simple, it's emotional, it's gorgeous...like a fine painting...it IS the Mona Lisa of Sacred Christian music...of HUMAN culture. It is divine! AND I'm an atheist! :D lol
lewisbreland 8 months ago
8:37 the amen is awesome (:
zipo2525 9 months ago
The speed is just appropriate, and they chose the right instrument and annotation in my opinion.
FfSpgfLerWhd 10 months ago
Since the model for this piece ("Chiome d'oro" ) is often taken at a really fast clip, there are some who feel this piece must be done at the same pace. I tend to disagree-- I would take this work a *shade* or two faster HOWEVER. . .that being said, this is beautifully done, with careful and sensitive attention to details like phrasing blend, diction, etc, and there is no denying the joy and conviviality of the music, or the skill of the performers and their interpretation.
monteverdi1567 10 months ago
the painting is by tiepolo
winksie 11 months ago
stunning
ApacheNL1 11 months ago
I enjoy the alternation of solo going into full chorus
ComposerJMA 1 year ago
@ComposerJMA
Monteverdi all over!
Aurongroove 8 months ago
love this piece. I hated it when we started doing it in choir but now i love it, especially the AMEN!!!!
eeyoreroxful 1 year ago
the amen is glorious
emandems94 1 year ago
that amen is glorious.
emandems94 1 year ago
Wow amazingly beautiful and well crafted piece... One of my favourites so far.
WilliamEGD 1 year ago
This is an ideal tempo of that motets. Not too slow, not too fast... You can hear it like a rose wich is turning onto the sun...
MrBuchfink 1 year ago
what is the painting here?
chubbard09 1 year ago
Beautiful piece. I'm singing this in choir at the moment, but 2:52 all the way to 6:11 is a slight problem to us Altos. There's no Alto part...*sigh*
PippinRally 1 year ago
need to listen to this for school
purecaffine 1 year ago
Monteverdi was right at the tail edge of the Renaissance, and so it's almost certain that the relationship between the 4/4 and 3/4 sections was a fixed proportion. They key to finding a good tempo for this piece is to figure out that proportion, then select a tempo where the 4/4 sections aren't too slow and the 3/4 section isn't too fast. Of course you also have to figure in the acoustics of the hall, as lots of reverb would muddy and blur the notes in a fast tempo.
ChrisTheGregory 1 year ago
this is similar to CHIOME D'ORO and QUI LE NAPPE VEZZOSE, absolutely gorgeous
nicosupersex 1 year ago
this song is great!!!!!!!! so classical. i like the singing
navy95doc 1 year ago
8:38-8:50 = magnificient!
ChevySpeedAddict 1 year ago
Superbe !
dyggful 1 year ago
UGH!!!!
This song is perfect.
If one of those 'mainstream' artists finds this unmistakably wonderful piece of art, and 'remakes' it, I will be utterky furious.
I cant wait for an opportunity to be apart of a Chorale that would perform this properly. Just as these fine musicians have done.
In my opinon the tempo is impeccable at most times, but at others it seems a bit fast for the period. Does anyone know who conducted or performed this piece? I would love to download there works
MisterTayTay 1 year ago
@MisterTayTay Monteverdi Sacred Music
Selva Morale E Spirituale, Venetia 1640 (1984 Digital Remaster): Psalmus 111: Beatus Vir (Primo) A 6
Andrew Parrott
Emma Kirby
Guitarvammer 1 year ago
Thank you for this offering! We did this in college choir, as humble as it was, and everyone loved it! The instruments add so much to the impact of this psalm. I enjoy all your postings...thanks again! Fr. Joseph H.
voxceleste8 1 year ago
I find the square tempo perfect: one has to let the harmony/counterpoint sink in; doing this one can understand the joy of "beatus" as a harmonious one, in harmony with nature, counterpoint, etc, but I agree that the triple time might be more jubilant, dancing - and you can stretch it a bit then for the fusae.
FabioCostaMusic 1 year ago
I do like a faster tempo with this, but this one is fine. This is a marvelous recording!
todwfish 1 year ago
It´s really a wonderful version! Really enjoyable.
bebetonguga 1 year ago
There's no such thing as too fast or too slow. Why else is it called an INTERPRETATION? This is perfect as it is.
voxhunden 1 year ago 3
People leave comments like "too slow" on something like the music of Monteverdi amuse me... Are they scholars of early music?
01jocooper 1 year ago 20
@01jocooper of course one wants to feel like it ... be they true scholars or not...ahaha ;-)
PeriodinstrumentfaN 1 year ago 4
I think it's too slow, and I'm studying monteverdi now. I think it's all up to interpretation, but I certainly know that chiome d'oro (where the violin melodies are taken from) would be slightly faster
AnimaMiaPerdona 1 year ago
@01jocooper i have studied early music, and classical music to a high standard, and this is a slow version of this work
ben3263 1 year ago 2
@ben3263 According to which treatise? Or do you know that from a letter of the composers? I can't find the information!
edwardgbell 8 months ago
@01jocooper No. Its just that they have an opinion.
Christofaaah 1 year ago
@01jocooper Or maybe just human beings whose brains have evolved to an extent that allows them to have an opinion?
EssTeeJones 7 months ago
@01jocooper understand that in the "modern age" listening perception has been changed: the modern brain needs fast beats, adrenaline and agresiveness.
asderso 3 weeks ago
Yes, a touch slow
musicalmommymichelle 2 years ago
A Bit slow to me but grate1
Sailorstayfree 2 years ago
beautiful music, but whose the painter of the magnificent image? It has many similarities with Murrillo's Virgin, but there are a few changes; it seems clean enough to be a bouguereau, but i can't seem to find this painting on a simple google image search! Any information on the painting?
Chansonmusika 2 years ago
Giovanni Battista Tiepolo
laincalvo 2 years ago 2
Thank you!
Chansonmusika 2 years ago
ooops sorry...my bad...ahaha.... i welcomed u for something i didn't do...aahahaha :-/ sorry about that ....
PeriodinstrumentfaN 2 years ago
feierlich und majestätisch
WolfgangSebastien 3 years ago 2
one of the most charming pieces of sacred music i've listened to
Chansonmusika 3 years ago 2
Beautiful. Excellent blend.
jamalakadea 3 years ago 11
Ich hätte sehr gerne den/die Interpreten dazu, würde mir die Aufnahme gerne kaufen .........., bitte Antwort hier posten, danke
Isidorada 3 years ago 2
Geh nach ebay punkt de...... und tip " Monteverdi Parrott".... und dann sieh den CD
MozartsGeist2008 2 years ago
ja! so genau soll das klingen (für mich natürlich ;-))
Isidorada 3 years ago 2
splendid old baroque piece! 5 stars.
dreuxschwartz 3 years ago 5
Very nice and clear. Rewarding voice.
treblechoir99 3 years ago 3