Hitchens v Turek -Religion v Atheism (13 of 15)

[jacksmack77]

golutia. Jesus died for sinners. Believers have eternal life the moment they trust Christ by faith alone. We are eternally secure. John 10:28. Unbelievers who die in that unregenerated state go to hell to suffer for all eternity. John 3:36.

[jacksmack77]

As Christians we don't want lost people like Hitchens to go to hell so we warn them and give them the good news. Jesus saves people from hell. Believe in Him for eternal life. John 3:15. Acts 16:31.

[golutai]

@jacksmack77

and what if at the end he doesn't belive it he must burn in hell?

while you choose to belive in it just to get out for yourself eternal life.

isn't that materialistic?

[writersblock26]

Thank you for posting this, Ous114.

[XlXKrampusXlX]

Hitchens made one mistake, and that was letting this ass address the crowd last.

[writersblock26]

I actually think that Turek makes his best points in this segments, which still pale in comparison to Hitchens' ones, but are nonethless valid. I just wish that he hadn't waited so long to make them.

[raphanon]

Turek completely does not understand Hitchens nor his views. His anger shows his udder (moo) fail.

[BobsOldSocks]

Turek's closing remarks - five minutes of outright, egregious, bald-faced lies.

[RaidenTheAlmighty]

I think Turek starts to destroy his own arguments. He starts off arguing from a deistic point of view, which is reasonable. It is not entirely impossible that the universe was created by a deistic God. But the further along in the debate he gets, the more he shifts to Christian theism. And like Hitchens said earlier, there is no way to make a connection between the deistic creator and the theistic God. So most of what Turek said is conjecture.

[orangejuice8822]

I can't tell whether Turek is being stupid or deceitful in this debate. He twists Hitchen's arguments. If you believe Turek's lies and soloipsistic non arguments then you are extremely stupid and naive.

[mandolinic]

"Cult of Death" - strong stuff

[Dragos1591]

I just love how angry Turek is.

[Faytez0r]

Anybody would be frustrated if people like you simply don't understand what he is talking about.

[Dragos1591]

We understand what he's saying, and it's nonsense. We've all heard it a million times before, which makes it even more ridiculous.

[RaidenTheAlmighty]

He doesnt have any arguments. I dont even know how he can even get to debate somebody. I have heard better arguments from people on youtube.

He just parrots the ignorant statements of previous theists.

[writersblock26]

@Dragos1591 lol

[blacbraun]

This "Dr" Turek should be happy to have Hitchens bring him closer to Christ. Hitch absolutely crucifies him.

[sopra2mars]

that christian guy is just too stupid he is not even a 100% christian he doesnt say thats why God exist but why God "can" exist, iam a Muslim and iam 100% sure that if i just brought that athesit guy one of my friends he would shut him up in no less then 10minutes

[blacbraun]

What would he do? Behead him?

[DatFwad]

lol

[ruflychux]

So basically, you are saying your muslim friend is smarter than you??? You are basically saying you are dumb?

I agree

[sopra2mars]

first ; it aint my friend but an imam a representati that probably knows religion and islam better then me. this hitchen s a good talker but his ideas are wrong

[violator198666]

Hitchens would completely own/destroy your friend mate. i'm pretty sure i could to. all of your aguments are the same.

irreducible complexity- debunked

moral argument- hardly even an argument

watchmaker- owned

no matter how much you would like to think so, as long as you say gawd did it.....science will kick your ass.

[sopra2mars]

allrigh if u belive in science so much then u must belive in the big bang... iam just wondering what was there before that ?? please tell me

[poboxpatwu]

I'll tell you. I don't know. But as oppose to resorting to faith i'm going to read up on physics, and if not contribute but at least understand and remain update on its progress. AND NOT attend bible school and clap my hand to church music and be content that god and a leap of faith is the answer to it all

[gsbackes]

What came before God? What caused God?

To answer your question, it could have been an infinite stream of causes. I wouldn't assert that I know.

[poboxpatwu]

do try to be civil and use reason and logic as oppose to heckling

[CHF2]

You can tell Turek's upset.

Hehehehe

[adknerr]

Turek waited a full 4 seconds for his drones to applause his joke about Hitch 'hating God'. Weak sauce.

[Botzu]

4:50 is some crazy strawman going on.

[LoutheFinger]

Turek's finely tuned universe argument is backward. Is it not obvious that life on this planet is adjusted to the universe and the world the way that it is, rather than the universe and the world being tuned so that life can take the forms it does?

[threedotsdead]

What´s this Turek-guy a professor of?

Asshatery?

[judoyodan]

Christianity is nearing an end.

This delusion is eroding due to the tranfer of knowledge and reduction of Godly ignorance. It is about time we grew out of this ridiculous superstition that has retarded every positive human endeavor since it's inception.

I for one say GOOD RIDDANCE!

[jazzjackrabbits]

Where I live, I only know of ONE person in my generation who legitimately believes in god. ONE. OOONNNEEE.

In 50 years this world is going to be amazing

[judoyodan]

Where is this place? Because in my area of Michigan, it seems like every other idiot thinks the world is 6000 years old.

[jazzjackrabbits]

Australia

[PapaMagnum]

this poor guy... he's got to be freaking out about his own beliefs after hearing what hitchens had to say

[Oli3TB76]

HAHAHAHA

I was thinking the exact same thing. That's probably why he was getting quite animated not long ago.

[rmutt4]

colleges should use this clip of Turek to show what specious, circular logic a religious zealot will resort to when attacked. It would be laughably pathetic if it wasn't so terrifying in its popularity.