The economy will plummet if communism is installed. Read your history books. Do you know what China was like before the installed elements of Capitalism? They couldn't sell a thing. And this guy and his "Brothers" aren't going to make anything better. "equality" Does anybody know what this country was founded on? Equality and freedom. Opinions. People have their own opinions and you CAN'T change that. I guess your all ignorant people.
Communism is stupid. Does anybody actually know what it is. Its a disease. A leader gets power, and won't give it up. They will devour our opinions and freedom. Not only will everything be owned by the government but freedom of speech. If he doesn't like the NEW York Times then he can get rid of it. If we were to continue to protest for jobs which we do now, we could be killed. Our government allows so much.All I say is "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."
Dix and Avakian have my vote. oh wait they're not running for office like PSL...they're actually representing a revolutionary party going for state power and a world liberated from imperialism. Thank God (or rather thank NO God). Comm and Cap. are the same? Please. One unleashes the masses to double the life expectancy of the population in one generation, like in China (49-76). The other brings us Gazas, Katrinas, Enrons, and Sean Bells. Anti-commies have yet to prove their shit in practice.
I was listening to you up to a point and even agreed on "some" things but,........... Your beginning to sound just like another maniac! Almost everything you said is bent! Look at the ANC in South-Africa! If your not crazy, than you are definitely obsessed! Communism is dangerous and so are you! Because of what happen to your son, Perhaps, you are just very angry. And I'm sure Barack Obama would tell you the same!
I agree that we will see a change in government Fascism was born with the patriot act and the homeland security bill..911 was staged taken out of Hitlers play book! know your government history..
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The premise of this video is laughable.
Communism has been debunked as a political, social and economic system (or did you not pay attention the last century).
"We need a communist revolution" Yes, very original.
It's intellectually bankrupt to think communism will do away with police brutality. You think Cuba, China, East Germany, Poland, and Russia had police brutality? I am guessing yes.
I am a little sick of you ideologues who read a few books and think you know what communism is.
As the bottom is dropping out of the stock market, as pensions and 401ks are being wiped out, as bank after bank after bank fails, as tens of thousands of people lose their homes through foreclosure, the system that is "debunked" is... (wait for it) COMMUNISM!??!!
Are you even paying attention? Theres tent cities in LA and Seattle now! 18% of homes in Detroit are in foreclosure! WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
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1917 and 2008 are diferent years, diferent tehnologies and circumstances .
And in 1917 it happened in the east, USA remained capitalist, so did westers europe. And remember 1989 , when the whole soviet empire collapsed with all it`s satelites ( romania, hungary, poland, and other eastern europe communists countries ).
First time I've seen this guy speak..it's breathtaking. To all the suffering proletariat: There is hope. Listen to men like Carl Dix and spread his message to as many people as you can. Send a link to this video to everyone you can! You have nothing to lose but your chains..Workers of the world unite!!!
I really, really appreciate Carl's talk here. Every single shot, every single pig, every single murdered brother... They're countless reasons that we need a revolution that really smashes the whole US imperialist system and creates a whole new world.
As far as I know, RCP supports Cuba against imperialist aggression, it's just that they regard Castro as revisionist.
I also happen to regard Castro as revisionist. This doesnt change the fact that he does a good job at defending the gains of Cuban Revolution. Today's Cuba is a beacon of hope for the international proletariat, because it shows that Socialism works.
Power to the people. Unless and until the vast majority of individuals start thinking for themselves and organizing at every level for our common welfare, any sucessful mass movement is likely to end in a form of dictatorship.
Anarchism is a form of utopian socialism which is harmful to the working class. The revolution will need proletarian dictatorship. There can be no revolution without proletarian dictatorship. The anarchists who reject it play into the hands of the bourgeoisie.
Proletarian revolution is what the world needs, the same way it needs the air. We need to do away with capitalism, imperialism (US, Israeli, Russian. Japanese) and all forms of oppression.
How can an authoritarian communist party bring about a different result than this authoritarian capitalist system?
What do you need to live and how do you get what you need?
We need to empower ourselves and edcuate ourselves and break away from this society.
The sooner we stop selling our labor away to this capitalist system, the sooner we can use our skills and talents and time to build a culture of resistance by any means necessary.
1. doctrine rejecting government: an ideology that rejects the need for a system of government in society and proposes its abolition
2. actions of anarchists: behavior intended to overthrow or weaken a society's formal system of government An American Anarchism revolution will destroy its federal government and then it can either live as a Confederacy or it can start all over again with a Union, but this time we have enough facts to avoid any imperialist control...
The formatting of this page changed, so I'm gonna start a new thread to ease the confusion:
Originally ComradeVladimir Said:
Because borders are again, irrelevent. They don't need to convince the people that borders are bad because corporations aren't restricted to their origional borders. They can go out, while workers are forced to stay in. You see, borders are only there to divide the working class, and corporations don't really mind that.
I think we may have different definitions for the word "border" which is leading us in a loop. My basic definition is a dividing line between two differing governmental jurisdictions. I don't really mean the actual line as much as I mean the fact that different countries have different policies.
These policies for, better or worse, represent the local people. But these differing policies are generally seen as unnecessary complications and obstacles for transnational corporations which would prefer a one-size-fits-all approach.
Nah, borders are no trouble for trans-national corporations anymore. Hell, a corporation's lust for profit trumps any flag. Did you know that IBM sold the Nazis punch cards which were used in the Holocaust? Did you know that Ford and Coca Cola worked in Nazi Germany during the War? (Coca Cola wasn't allowed to produce directly, so they created Fanta Orange in order to keep profits going from Germany.
Yes, "trumps any flag." They'd love to "trump any flag" wouldn't they? You have to understand that this is a constant process, and you've been conveniently convinced that they have already won, and even worse, you SUPPORT their trumping of nations. Communists and corporations alike hate nations, and borders.
It's public information that the Bush dynasty's wealth is traced directly back to the liquidation of their Nazi money laundering firm: Union Banking Corporation of New York. Did you know they were caught planning to wage a coup on America in the 1940s? Have you noticed how much progress they've made since? Did you know that for more than the last 30 years, we've been under the same bush-clinton regime?
Do you know why we're in the middle east? You think it's because they don't care about borders anymore? You know why the establishment keeps shit-talking venezuela and cuba? Is it because they don't care about borders anymore? You have to break out of this capitalism game. Speaking out against "God™" and worshipping the devil™ is not an effective means of opposing christianity™.
Stop thinking like a petty capitalist, this is NOT about "money and profits," this is about INFLUENCE and CONTROL. The most wealthy people on the planet are socialists. They own the media, they own the schools, they are the default perspective, culture, values, and interests. They continue to struggle to eliminate national identity/boundaries because without these, ALL that would be left are corporations. Read their damn books.
You know, the ones whom you refer to as the "capitalist" leaders actually write many books and papers about this stuff. Communists would do well to read them. It is important for each and every one of us to know our common enemy. They can actually afford to be pretty candid in their writings because they understand that 99.9% of Americans are too overloaded with consumer fiction to ever begin to really delve into the realm of non-fiction.
This is compounded by the fact that the majority of even the semi-awakened immediately get sucked into the narrow of communist and anarchist literature. You have to begin to understand their very specific long-term plans and intentions if you hope to effectively work against them.
David Rockefeller: Memoirs and Carrol Quigley: Tragedy and Hope are good places to start.
The sad thing is that Commies confuse the current American system of debt-collectivism with True Capitalism... and they think the solution is Communism of all things... forced-collectivism. Commies historically and contemporarily fight to take away your Life, liberty and Property. They are unspeakably horrible people.
If you believe everything the ruling class tells you, then your belief about communism comes down to this. Why don't you read the RCP literature? Should be a wake up call for you.
Unfortunately, I actually have... I've read Avakian's essays and listened to his lectures... He's just not really clever enough to make much a difference. I could see how a bunch of naive 18-year-olds could be impressed though, it all sounds really radical if all you have as your frame of reference is standard establishment lies.
communists tend to be too caught up in catch phrases to really see what's going on. It all seems so simple when it's presented in pop-radical terms like bourgeois-proletariat class struggles etc. Multi-national corporations merging into a one-world-government = communism. Productivity directed from the top, and labor and wealth are commonly shared.
Just understand that it is in the interest of both sides to standardise culture and thought, dissolve borders, minimise property rights etc. The true definition of ownership has always been CONTROL. Whoever controls a communist system in fact OWNS it, regardless of the rhetoric. Don't be a useful idiot. Even babies, in fact, even puppies; any highly intelligent animal is born with the inherent understanding that LIFE, LIBERTY and PROPERTY are FUNDAMENTAL.
Yes. However, you do not understand. In a communist society, with all borders dissolved, and everyone held in common, no one rules the society. People run it. It's a classless society, therefore, people own the means of production, and therefore the world. That provides life, liberty, and property. Life, due to them living, liberty, due to an absolute direct democracy, and property, due to common ownership.
can you describe to me a system of common rule without the involvement of a class of leaders? And can you explain by what stretch of the imagination mob rule democracy can possibly lead to liberty? There are NO standards in a direct democracy; everything is directly subject to the wild whims of mass hysteria. And do you realise how oxymoronic and meaningless the term "common ownership" is? Do you realise that a one world communist system = a one world orphanage?
Despite what you're taught by the elite media: America, like China and Russia and all other collectivist economies ARE in fact multinational corporations. A dollar, a ruble, or a yuan in your pocket is a share of common stock. Sadly, YOU are being led into FIGHTING for the INTERESTS of the CORPORATE MEGA-ELITE. They want all the same things you want.
Multi-national corporations should and will die by the revolutions. They are exploitive organizations used by the capitalist ruling class in order to gain profits off the backs of workers whom make 2 cents a day (depends on what country they're exploiting).
It is in the common interests of all these trans-national corporate entities to dissolve borders, to consolidate CONTROL, to deprive the common public of their rights, and to standardise their minds. The differences between "Capitalism" and "Communism" are only skin deep: YOU GUYS ARE ALL THE SAME.
Because you said Communism and Capitalism, the anti-establishment and the establishment, two ideologies that despise one another, the same thing. o.o;;
dude, if commies really wanna really affect any change at all, they've got to be more clever than that... your over-simplistic perspective of the world is sponsored by the corporate elite. Whose ass do you think your colleges and professors have to appeal to to get funding? They've provided you with both sides of the debate and that's all you'll ever know if you get buried up in their bullshit. Obviously you're going to have a hard to dealing with this, but your world-view is STANDARD ISSUE.
You believe that your ideology is against the corporate elite, but it is in direct harmony with their collective interests. What a convenient accident. Do you not agree that it is in the interest of transnational corporations to dissolve borders? Is it not in their interest to consolidate control of labor and physical resources? Is it not in their interest to impose centralised banking on the people? You guys have more similarities than you have differences.
That's not just a happy coincidence.... Your differences may, or may not cancel eachother out, but your common interests are being spurred on ahead by your joint efforts.
I do not agree that they want to dissolve borders. Really, they don't need to. This is a global economy, and due to globalization corporations can legally go over to third world countries and exploit workers there. Really, they don't care. I do agree that they want to control the working class. They want the proletariat to keep selling their ability to work to the bourgeoisie, which makes all the money. We want to stop that. Too bad you don't really understand.
but isn't globalisation the dissolving of borders? and who do you think is behind this trend of globalisation? look into the SPP meetings in Canada this month... look into the NAU. The North American Union, it's your dream come true...
No. Globalization is the globalizing of the market. It allows corporations to BECOME transnational, which allows them to not care about borders, since they can work in other nations (usually third world countries) and exploit people there.
Yes, and to achieve this, the establishment must convince the public into believing that borders are bad, racist etc and to adopt a more "enlightened" perspective of internationalism. I don't think you understand the defining purpose of borders... how could you argue that the corporations who are working towards the circumvention of all borders, don't care about borders?
Because borders are again, irrelevent. They don't need to convince the people that borders are bad because corporations aren't restricted to their origional borders. They can go out, while workers are forced to stay in. You see, borders are only there to divide the working class, and corporations don't really mind that.
The worse thing you could do if you want to suppress a threatening perspective is to openly oppose it. That only works to dignify it, and to familiarise the people with it. The actual resistance is always ignored and dismissed by the elite media. You haven't even begun to learn about the true resistance, but hopefully someday you'll have your chance.
So what you're saying is that to truly oppose capitalism is to pretend to support it and do absolutely nothing to stop it? What are you trying to say?
I won't say, but ultimately, you fight FOR freedom and liberty, not AGAINST capitalism. I'm hesitant to explain the plan at this moment because apparently this is a RCP den. You want to private message me your email address?
What i meant is that the capitalists are opposing communists because it creates the illusion of two opposing sides. They actively strive to ignore the more threatening philosophies as not to draw any attention to them.
I'm not trying to maintain a "scientific outlook" whatever you might mean by that, I'm simply reporting their written intentions. Read Carrol Quigley's tragedy and hope for more on this false dichotomy. If you don't know who carrol quigley is, then the particular system that you rely on for the truth has failed you.
A scientific outlook is the way of getting at what is actuallty true. Carrol Quigley was an adviser to Bill Clinton, I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the objectivity in this writings is most likely lacking.
Also, your name murderrapelove is kind of sick.
Using measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.
To acquire new knowledge or investigate previous knowledge.
as for my name, words are only as sick as how they are interpreted... anyhow, what's your point? This is a system of men (and women) with human intentions. The individuals advising and planning for our society at large are not trying to be "objective" about it. Their interests are obvious, and they make their intentions loud and clear before they go about fulfiling them.
Standard established lies? Sounds like something you'd see on FOX news. Listen, you believe you're the "logical" one while I'm the "extremist nutjob". In my opinion, it's the other way around. You're a conservative, correct?
Yes, what is your definition of worked? Improved the quality of peoples' lives? Gave people income security? Equality? Control over more aspects of their lives than any before? Capitalism did none of this. It was Revolutionaries who fought and died for over a hundred years to bring you the benefits of modern life. So don't walk around talking about how communism did nothing, how capitalism improved lives... no, capitalism did nothing, communism improved your life.
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The mode of production of material life determines the social, political and intellectual life process in general. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness.
China's socialist revolution of 1949-76 resulted in a vast improvement in life for the Chinese people. Between 1949 and 1975, life expectancy in socialist China more than doubled, from about 32 to 65 years. By the early 1970s, infant mortality rates in Shanghai were lower than in New York City!1 All this reveals a profound reduction in the violence of everyday life.
I don't think it is a black or white or any race thing it is more like a class war.
I agree that our govt. is not working in a way that is condusive to liberty but I don't see communism as being an answer to this. We are already slaves, just add up ALL of the taxes you pay in a year (govt. fees, car reg., soc. security, medicare, ect.) then subtract that from your wages, most of us pay 50%+ to taxes. indentured servants were slaves for paying 30% back to the land owner or king.
although the government is responsible for the corruption in U.S.A, the people also have responsibilities. if the people dont have the willpower to rise up for their rights, then things will forever stay the same. we cant just wait for things to change, WE MAKE THE CHANGE.
Racism can't be solved with racism. White people don't really have a desire to conquer the world. The capitalists, not the white people in general, are your enemy, my enemy, and an enemy of humanity.
RCP-USA drives me nuts, though. They don't treat Avakian as a chairman, they treat him as the best guy in the world, and most of their website is dedicated to his glorification. They quote him, they sell DVDs, they make pages for him, they go on and on, and they seem as though they treat him like the founder of Marxism-Leninism. My god, it's too much! That party will collapse when he dies if the Party doesn't do anything to tone down the showering of praises.
I totally agree and support this statement. Im tired of hearing the white man this the white man that when its not the white man that is the problem like you said it is capitalism. I'm not white so my opinion is not bias its just im not ignorant enough to listen to ppls racism. ive been to protests in LA about immigration rights and what not and what do i hear the crowd chanting fuck the gringo/the white man and some people actually believe that
Your right, but at the same time it is white people. White capitalists are the ones in power, and they want to preserve that. Part of the capitalists immigration problem is to preserve the "cultural Identity" of U.S., which can easily be translated as "keep amerikkka white". ALl this coming from a white man. Now not all of us are to blame, but defiently the majority of whites are to blame, through there ignorance,they perpetuate this oppressive system.
There are black capitalists. Yes, there's a majority of white people in the ruling class, but there are also black people in the ruling class (a minority, but still). They never speak out against the state racism, nor the oppression of minorities, OR the exploitation in general. They don't help, they're a part of the problem, and therefore it's not white people in general, but the system itself.
Ppl need to see that racism is the root of everything. It is so interwoven into the fabribric of society its ridiculas. When white ppl say its over I'd like to know where.
I am not racist I am PATRIOTIC AND I SAY DOWN WITH COMMUNISM, HOW WILL IT STOP RACISM? PUT RACISTS IN JAIL?
82ndairborne100 3 weeks ago
The economy will plummet if communism is installed. Read your history books. Do you know what China was like before the installed elements of Capitalism? They couldn't sell a thing. And this guy and his "Brothers" aren't going to make anything better. "equality" Does anybody know what this country was founded on? Equality and freedom. Opinions. People have their own opinions and you CAN'T change that. I guess your all ignorant people.
82ndairborne100 3 weeks ago
Communism is stupid. Does anybody actually know what it is. Its a disease. A leader gets power, and won't give it up. They will devour our opinions and freedom. Not only will everything be owned by the government but freedom of speech. If he doesn't like the NEW York Times then he can get rid of it. If we were to continue to protest for jobs which we do now, we could be killed. Our government allows so much.All I say is "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."
82ndairborne100 3 weeks ago
Police murder, why does this guy ignore black on black crime, which claims far more lives than police brutality. US rulers, ever heard of the G 20.
acdc30450 5 months ago
Please look up:
Dr. Cornel West & Carl Dix On Gay Marriage
Carl Dix: UCLA Ban On Filming Speech Not His Fault
jeff4justice 8 months ago
nice letter spoke some truths... injustice is injustice...police brutality must stop on all fronts black, white, asian, or hispanic
jamalman1 2 years ago
Dix and Avakian have my vote. oh wait they're not running for office like PSL...they're actually representing a revolutionary party going for state power and a world liberated from imperialism. Thank God (or rather thank NO God). Comm and Cap. are the same? Please. One unleashes the masses to double the life expectancy of the population in one generation, like in China (49-76). The other brings us Gazas, Katrinas, Enrons, and Sean Bells. Anti-commies have yet to prove their shit in practice.
down4thawholething 3 years ago 5
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How about "Free Da' Niggers" From What?
Werewolf7692 3 years ago
I was listening to you up to a point and even agreed on "some" things but,........... Your beginning to sound just like another maniac! Almost everything you said is bent! Look at the ANC in South-Africa! If your not crazy, than you are definitely obsessed! Communism is dangerous and so are you! Because of what happen to your son, Perhaps, you are just very angry. And I'm sure Barack Obama would tell you the same!
blacklightposter 3 years ago
I agree with the revolutionary message of the video, but I have no interest in joining the Avakian group (RCP).
wisdomist 3 years ago
I agree that we will see a change in government Fascism was born with the patriot act and the homeland security bill..911 was staged taken out of Hitlers play book! know your government history..
Hamd727 3 years ago
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The premise of this video is laughable.
Communism has been debunked as a political, social and economic system (or did you not pay attention the last century).
"We need a communist revolution" Yes, very original.
It's intellectually bankrupt to think communism will do away with police brutality. You think Cuba, China, East Germany, Poland, and Russia had police brutality? I am guessing yes.
I am a little sick of you ideologues who read a few books and think you know what communism is.
radici27 3 years ago
As the bottom is dropping out of the stock market, as pensions and 401ks are being wiped out, as bank after bank after bank fails, as tens of thousands of people lose their homes through foreclosure, the system that is "debunked" is... (wait for it) COMMUNISM!??!!
Are you even paying attention? Theres tent cities in LA and Seattle now! 18% of homes in Detroit are in foreclosure! WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
t1201971 3 years ago
How do you lear about Communism then? Listen to 2112 by Rush?
Khomradeigor 3 years ago
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1917 and 2008 are diferent years, diferent tehnologies and circumstances .
And in 1917 it happened in the east, USA remained capitalist, so did westers europe. And remember 1989 , when the whole soviet empire collapsed with all it`s satelites ( romania, hungary, poland, and other eastern europe communists countries ).
Capitalism is still the best system.
RaulSmen 3 years ago
Capitalism is still the best system. . . for the rich.
michigan83guerrilla 3 years ago 12
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Well, yes, but anyone can became rich, there are many examples of people who worked hard, and advanced from medium to rich.
RaulSmen 3 years ago
Are you serious? You need to put the Ayn Rand down and live in the real world for a minute.
t1201971 3 years ago
not for longer:)
Remeber octber 1917
beforе this date capitalism rulling in the world after first world war.
vronfundel 3 years ago
why vronfundel ? isn`t capitalism rulling the world today ?
RaulSmen 3 years ago
"NO hope for the stupid working class !!! Long live capitalism"
hahahahahahah :DDDDD
comediant:)
vronfundel 3 years ago
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NO hope for the stupid working class !!! Long live capitalism !!!!!!!! ( and it will )
RaulSmen 3 years ago
First time I've seen this guy speak..it's breathtaking. To all the suffering proletariat: There is hope. Listen to men like Carl Dix and spread his message to as many people as you can. Send a link to this video to everyone you can! You have nothing to lose but your chains..Workers of the world unite!!!
NaturalSelection2 3 years ago
I really, really appreciate Carl's talk here. Every single shot, every single pig, every single murdered brother... They're countless reasons that we need a revolution that really smashes the whole US imperialist system and creates a whole new world.
redstar1949 4 years ago 9
Carl Dix is the man !!!!!!!!!! I go to Bob Avakians audio page to download a lot of his audio talks, we need Bob Avakian for president
dominicanochavista 4 years ago 5
I agree 100%.
Carl Dix is a great man. He and Bob Avakian are true friends of the people.
marxistule 4 years ago 7
Great! More people need to be talking about this stuff!
Briannathegreat 4 years ago 5
until the RCP supports fidel, they are the same as the CIA to me.
SocialismLiberation 4 years ago
As far as I know, RCP supports Cuba against imperialist aggression, it's just that they regard Castro as revisionist.
I also happen to regard Castro as revisionist. This doesnt change the fact that he does a good job at defending the gains of Cuban Revolution. Today's Cuba is a beacon of hope for the international proletariat, because it shows that Socialism works.
marxistule 4 years ago
Power to the people. Unless and until the vast majority of individuals start thinking for themselves and organizing at every level for our common welfare, any sucessful mass movement is likely to end in a form of dictatorship.
loc1k 4 years ago
Anarchism is a form of utopian socialism which is harmful to the working class. The revolution will need proletarian dictatorship. There can be no revolution without proletarian dictatorship. The anarchists who reject it play into the hands of the bourgeoisie.
marxistule 4 years ago
Proletarian revolution is what the world needs, the same way it needs the air. We need to do away with capitalism, imperialism (US, Israeli, Russian. Japanese) and all forms of oppression.
marxistule 4 years ago
A communist revolution will not do.
How can an authoritarian communist party bring about a different result than this authoritarian capitalist system?
What do you need to live and how do you get what you need?
We need to empower ourselves and edcuate ourselves and break away from this society.
The sooner we stop selling our labor away to this capitalist system, the sooner we can use our skills and talents and time to build a culture of resistance by any means necessary.
reservordawg 4 years ago
an·ar·chism
1. doctrine rejecting government: an ideology that rejects the need for a system of government in society and proposes its abolition
2. actions of anarchists: behavior intended to overthrow or weaken a society's formal system of government An American Anarchism revolution will destroy its federal government and then it can either live as a Confederacy or it can start all over again with a Union, but this time we have enough facts to avoid any imperialist control...
julestroker 4 years ago
The formatting of this page changed, so I'm gonna start a new thread to ease the confusion:
Originally ComradeVladimir Said:
Because borders are again, irrelevent. They don't need to convince the people that borders are bad because corporations aren't restricted to their origional borders. They can go out, while workers are forced to stay in. You see, borders are only there to divide the working class, and corporations don't really mind that.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
I think we may have different definitions for the word "border" which is leading us in a loop. My basic definition is a dividing line between two differing governmental jurisdictions. I don't really mean the actual line as much as I mean the fact that different countries have different policies.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Yeah. A nation's borders.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
Pt 2:
These policies for, better or worse, represent the local people. But these differing policies are generally seen as unnecessary complications and obstacles for transnational corporations which would prefer a one-size-fits-all approach.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Nah, borders are no trouble for trans-national corporations anymore. Hell, a corporation's lust for profit trumps any flag. Did you know that IBM sold the Nazis punch cards which were used in the Holocaust? Did you know that Ford and Coca Cola worked in Nazi Germany during the War? (Coca Cola wasn't allowed to produce directly, so they created Fanta Orange in order to keep profits going from Germany.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
Yes, "trumps any flag." They'd love to "trump any flag" wouldn't they? You have to understand that this is a constant process, and you've been conveniently convinced that they have already won, and even worse, you SUPPORT their trumping of nations. Communists and corporations alike hate nations, and borders.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
pt 2:
It's public information that the Bush dynasty's wealth is traced directly back to the liquidation of their Nazi money laundering firm: Union Banking Corporation of New York. Did you know they were caught planning to wage a coup on America in the 1940s? Have you noticed how much progress they've made since? Did you know that for more than the last 30 years, we've been under the same bush-clinton regime?
murderrapelove 4 years ago
pt 3:
Do you know why we're in the middle east? You think it's because they don't care about borders anymore? You know why the establishment keeps shit-talking venezuela and cuba? Is it because they don't care about borders anymore? You have to break out of this capitalism game. Speaking out against "God™" and worshipping the devil™ is not an effective means of opposing christianity™.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
pt 4:
Stop thinking like a petty capitalist, this is NOT about "money and profits," this is about INFLUENCE and CONTROL. The most wealthy people on the planet are socialists. They own the media, they own the schools, they are the default perspective, culture, values, and interests. They continue to struggle to eliminate national identity/boundaries because without these, ALL that would be left are corporations. Read their damn books.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
You know, the ones whom you refer to as the "capitalist" leaders actually write many books and papers about this stuff. Communists would do well to read them. It is important for each and every one of us to know our common enemy. They can actually afford to be pretty candid in their writings because they understand that 99.9% of Americans are too overloaded with consumer fiction to ever begin to really delve into the realm of non-fiction.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
pt 2:
This is compounded by the fact that the majority of even the semi-awakened immediately get sucked into the narrow of communist and anarchist literature. You have to begin to understand their very specific long-term plans and intentions if you hope to effectively work against them.
David Rockefeller: Memoirs and Carrol Quigley: Tragedy and Hope are good places to start.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
The sad thing is that Commies confuse the current American system of debt-collectivism with True Capitalism... and they think the solution is Communism of all things... forced-collectivism. Commies historically and contemporarily fight to take away your Life, liberty and Property. They are unspeakably horrible people.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
If you believe everything the ruling class tells you, then your belief about communism comes down to this. Why don't you read the RCP literature? Should be a wake up call for you.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
Unfortunately, I actually have... I've read Avakian's essays and listened to his lectures... He's just not really clever enough to make much a difference. I could see how a bunch of naive 18-year-olds could be impressed though, it all sounds really radical if all you have as your frame of reference is standard establishment lies.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
communists tend to be too caught up in catch phrases to really see what's going on. It all seems so simple when it's presented in pop-radical terms like bourgeois-proletariat class struggles etc. Multi-national corporations merging into a one-world-government = communism. Productivity directed from the top, and labor and wealth are commonly shared.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Just understand that it is in the interest of both sides to standardise culture and thought, dissolve borders, minimise property rights etc. The true definition of ownership has always been CONTROL. Whoever controls a communist system in fact OWNS it, regardless of the rhetoric. Don't be a useful idiot. Even babies, in fact, even puppies; any highly intelligent animal is born with the inherent understanding that LIFE, LIBERTY and PROPERTY are FUNDAMENTAL.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Yes. However, you do not understand. In a communist society, with all borders dissolved, and everyone held in common, no one rules the society. People run it. It's a classless society, therefore, people own the means of production, and therefore the world. That provides life, liberty, and property. Life, due to them living, liberty, due to an absolute direct democracy, and property, due to common ownership.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
can you describe to me a system of common rule without the involvement of a class of leaders? And can you explain by what stretch of the imagination mob rule democracy can possibly lead to liberty? There are NO standards in a direct democracy; everything is directly subject to the wild whims of mass hysteria. And do you realise how oxymoronic and meaningless the term "common ownership" is? Do you realise that a one world communist system = a one world orphanage?
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Despite what you're taught by the elite media: America, like China and Russia and all other collectivist economies ARE in fact multinational corporations. A dollar, a ruble, or a yuan in your pocket is a share of common stock. Sadly, YOU are being led into FIGHTING for the INTERESTS of the CORPORATE MEGA-ELITE. They want all the same things you want.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Multi-national corporations should and will die by the revolutions. They are exploitive organizations used by the capitalist ruling class in order to gain profits off the backs of workers whom make 2 cents a day (depends on what country they're exploiting).
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
It is in the common interests of all these trans-national corporate entities to dissolve borders, to consolidate CONTROL, to deprive the common public of their rights, and to standardise their minds. The differences between "Capitalism" and "Communism" are only skin deep: YOU GUYS ARE ALL THE SAME.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Dude, you're crazy. O.o;;;
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
oh yea? Because I don't adopt one of the two establishment views? How is anything I stated "crazy?"
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Because you said Communism and Capitalism, the anti-establishment and the establishment, two ideologies that despise one another, the same thing. o.o;;
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
dude, if commies really wanna really affect any change at all, they've got to be more clever than that... your over-simplistic perspective of the world is sponsored by the corporate elite. Whose ass do you think your colleges and professors have to appeal to to get funding? They've provided you with both sides of the debate and that's all you'll ever know if you get buried up in their bullshit. Obviously you're going to have a hard to dealing with this, but your world-view is STANDARD ISSUE.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
oops, ignore one of the "really"s
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Answer this: My ideology is against the corporate elite. Why in the hell would they sponsor their own destruction?
And if my world view is standard issue, there wouldn't be any anti-communist propaganda everywhere. You really need to open your eyes.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
You believe that your ideology is against the corporate elite, but it is in direct harmony with their collective interests. What a convenient accident. Do you not agree that it is in the interest of transnational corporations to dissolve borders? Is it not in their interest to consolidate control of labor and physical resources? Is it not in their interest to impose centralised banking on the people? You guys have more similarities than you have differences.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
That's not just a happy coincidence.... Your differences may, or may not cancel eachother out, but your common interests are being spurred on ahead by your joint efforts.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
I do not agree that they want to dissolve borders. Really, they don't need to. This is a global economy, and due to globalization corporations can legally go over to third world countries and exploit workers there. Really, they don't care. I do agree that they want to control the working class. They want the proletariat to keep selling their ability to work to the bourgeoisie, which makes all the money. We want to stop that. Too bad you don't really understand.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
but isn't globalisation the dissolving of borders? and who do you think is behind this trend of globalisation? look into the SPP meetings in Canada this month... look into the NAU. The North American Union, it's your dream come true...
murderrapelove 4 years ago
No. Globalization is the globalizing of the market. It allows corporations to BECOME transnational, which allows them to not care about borders, since they can work in other nations (usually third world countries) and exploit people there.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
Yes, and to achieve this, the establishment must convince the public into believing that borders are bad, racist etc and to adopt a more "enlightened" perspective of internationalism. I don't think you understand the defining purpose of borders... how could you argue that the corporations who are working towards the circumvention of all borders, don't care about borders?
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Because borders are again, irrelevent. They don't need to convince the people that borders are bad because corporations aren't restricted to their origional borders. They can go out, while workers are forced to stay in. You see, borders are only there to divide the working class, and corporations don't really mind that.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
The worse thing you could do if you want to suppress a threatening perspective is to openly oppose it. That only works to dignify it, and to familiarise the people with it. The actual resistance is always ignored and dismissed by the elite media. You haven't even begun to learn about the true resistance, but hopefully someday you'll have your chance.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
So what you're saying is that to truly oppose capitalism is to pretend to support it and do absolutely nothing to stop it? What are you trying to say?
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
I won't say, but ultimately, you fight FOR freedom and liberty, not AGAINST capitalism. I'm hesitant to explain the plan at this moment because apparently this is a RCP den. You want to private message me your email address?
murderrapelove 4 years ago
What i meant is that the capitalists are opposing communists because it creates the illusion of two opposing sides. They actively strive to ignore the more threatening philosophies as not to draw any attention to them.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
That does not seem like a very scientific outlook....
Briannathegreat 4 years ago
I'm not trying to maintain a "scientific outlook" whatever you might mean by that, I'm simply reporting their written intentions. Read Carrol Quigley's tragedy and hope for more on this false dichotomy. If you don't know who carrol quigley is, then the particular system that you rely on for the truth has failed you.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
A scientific outlook is the way of getting at what is actuallty true. Carrol Quigley was an adviser to Bill Clinton, I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the objectivity in this writings is most likely lacking.
Also, your name murderrapelove is kind of sick.
Using measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.
To acquire new knowledge or investigate previous knowledge.
Briannathegreat 4 years ago
as for my name, words are only as sick as how they are interpreted... anyhow, what's your point? This is a system of men (and women) with human intentions. The individuals advising and planning for our society at large are not trying to be "objective" about it. Their interests are obvious, and they make their intentions loud and clear before they go about fulfiling them.
murderrapelove 4 years ago
Standard established lies? Sounds like something you'd see on FOX news. Listen, you believe you're the "logical" one while I'm the "extremist nutjob". In my opinion, it's the other way around. You're a conservative, correct?
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
Yes, what is your definition of worked? Improved the quality of peoples' lives? Gave people income security? Equality? Control over more aspects of their lives than any before? Capitalism did none of this. It was Revolutionaries who fought and died for over a hundred years to bring you the benefits of modern life. So don't walk around talking about how communism did nothing, how capitalism improved lives... no, capitalism did nothing, communism improved your life.
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Itzahookupsite 4 years ago
The man in the video speaks the truth. Workers of all colours and nationalities must unite to overthrow this outmoded economic system.
Congest 4 years ago
"We don't destroy society in a day
Until we change ourselves first
From the inside out"
klone242 4 years ago
The mode of production of material life determines the social, political and intellectual life process in general. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness.
~ Karl Marx
Congest 4 years ago
Communism has never worked...
raggabass 4 years ago
What do you mean by worked?
China's socialist revolution of 1949-76 resulted in a vast improvement in life for the Chinese people. Between 1949 and 1975, life expectancy in socialist China more than doubled, from about 32 to 65 years. By the early 1970s, infant mortality rates in Shanghai were lower than in New York City!1 All this reveals a profound reduction in the violence of everyday life.
Briannathegreat 4 years ago
But, my friend, what caused 100 Million deaths in the 20th century?
Communism.
TXUnderGrnd 4 years ago
Hahahaha...
Yes, people believed the earth was flat too...
(and, if we are making comparisons, capitalism killed so much more than 100 millions)
AlexandreSchwarz 4 years ago
And I doubt the capitalists are telling the truth.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
I don't think it is a black or white or any race thing it is more like a class war.
I agree that our govt. is not working in a way that is condusive to liberty but I don't see communism as being an answer to this. We are already slaves, just add up ALL of the taxes you pay in a year (govt. fees, car reg., soc. security, medicare, ect.) then subtract that from your wages, most of us pay 50%+ to taxes. indentured servants were slaves for paying 30% back to the land owner or king.
bustherh 4 years ago
although the government is responsible for the corruption in U.S.A, the people also have responsibilities. if the people dont have the willpower to rise up for their rights, then things will forever stay the same. we cant just wait for things to change, WE MAKE THE CHANGE.
Silencer789 4 years ago
No. The white mans inbred desire to conquer the world.
Childrenscneterh 4 years ago
Racism can't be solved with racism. White people don't really have a desire to conquer the world. The capitalists, not the white people in general, are your enemy, my enemy, and an enemy of humanity.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
So true so true. I have alot of white friends & we talk about the system with equal distain.
Childrenscneterh 4 years ago
RCP-USA drives me nuts, though. They don't treat Avakian as a chairman, they treat him as the best guy in the world, and most of their website is dedicated to his glorification. They quote him, they sell DVDs, they make pages for him, they go on and on, and they seem as though they treat him like the founder of Marxism-Leninism. My god, it's too much! That party will collapse when he dies if the Party doesn't do anything to tone down the showering of praises.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
I totally agree and support this statement. Im tired of hearing the white man this the white man that when its not the white man that is the problem like you said it is capitalism. I'm not white so my opinion is not bias its just im not ignorant enough to listen to ppls racism. ive been to protests in LA about immigration rights and what not and what do i hear the crowd chanting fuck the gringo/the white man and some people actually believe that
lizzyrevolution 4 years ago
Your right, but at the same time it is white people. White capitalists are the ones in power, and they want to preserve that. Part of the capitalists immigration problem is to preserve the "cultural Identity" of U.S., which can easily be translated as "keep amerikkka white". ALl this coming from a white man. Now not all of us are to blame, but defiently the majority of whites are to blame, through there ignorance,they perpetuate this oppressive system.
samson2022 4 years ago
There are black capitalists. Yes, there's a majority of white people in the ruling class, but there are also black people in the ruling class (a minority, but still). They never speak out against the state racism, nor the oppression of minorities, OR the exploitation in general. They don't help, they're a part of the problem, and therefore it's not white people in general, but the system itself.
ComradeVladimir 4 years ago
Ppl need to see that racism is the root of everything. It is so interwoven into the fabribric of society its ridiculas. When white ppl say its over I'd like to know where.
Childrenscneterh 4 years ago
this should be reposted in many places.
got any more like it?
Ezekiel39 5 years ago
Right on!
za7ch 5 years ago