Declaring the universe a closed system without knowing anything about it is folly. Science doesn't even have a theory of gravity they want to share with the common people, because all the basics are false. What they call science is a bunch of bald-faced propaganda. As Hitler said, don't tell small lies, they aren't believed; go with the big lies, the people are suckers for these. Scientists evolved into priests and unproven theories into dogmas.
Are you telling me these people have legitimate scientific careers? well, I guess that means I have a Job when I get older, cause these people are fucking stupid.
I'd like to see evolution in the context of origins taught as theory not fact. It's little more than an hypothesis and is branded as proven fact. That's an outright lie. Science is: " the systematic study of the nature and behaviour of the material and physical universe, based on observation, experiment, and measurement, and the formulation of laws to describe these facts in general terms". Darwinism isn't.
@BogusDonut : Do you believe in astronomy / How much of astronomy is based on experiment . Has anything in astronomy been reproduced in the lab ? Evolution is as solid a theory as gravity. Just consider the silliness of the alternative. Did you ever read Genesis ? When was the last time you saw a clump of mud come alive, by blowing over it ?
@BogusDonut: Not a lie. Evolution is an observed fact; you could even call animal breeding loosely controlled experiments in the theory; they're fact as well. The Theory of Evolution is a theory, an inference over the commonality of all these facts, and, like all theories, provisional. "Darwinism" was the first statement of the theory; new facts discovered lead to the new synthesis , and now, with genetics, newer and more powerful understandings. See wiki, "New Synthesis".
@Ycepham Any video showing the problems in evolution theory are called propaganda. Shame on those who print lies for kids to be taught. You gave no reasons for you complaint. Why is it bad? There is information. You just don't like it.
@BogusDonut Shame on people who lie to children. 2.55 "evolution doesn't happen" that is a lie that people holding on to Iron-Age beliefs want to propagate to their "kids". I will tell my children about the scientific method and how life is precious and not to squander it on beliefs of fictional characters be they Harry potter, Allah (may his name never be praised), or jesus (aka Horus or mithras).
This is not information. It is religious dogma: not science.
I have taken human evolution, and advanced anthropology, and sence then I've learned that Evolution is problematic. The reason why its so popular is bc it deals with science and theory, and with some reasoning, it may seem possible. But creation is terms of a divine intervention seems very possible as well.
aka4god-- But creation is terms of a divine intervention seems very possible as well.-- In 6.000 yeras not a single piece of evidence for creation has been produced. Yet you demand prove for evolution to the smallest detail.
yr an idiot. u want the scientific method 2 prove God when it doesn't even prove evolution. u can't apply it 2 God. do u love yr wife or family? prove it using the scientific method.
I had a professor say that ppl can't prove religion. I've stand by saying, that the inconsistencies of science itself gives credit to proving religion or spirtuality.
If you knew better, you would notice that humans, are actully made up of alot of elements same as dirt such as Calculm....etc
Basically, man was formed from his creation which was already there .... dirt. Literally this is trure. WHAT A COINCIDENCE from those time, since they knew nothing of human variation....
aka4god :You ask for evidence for evolution, may I ask you some evidence for the creation story, that man was formed by a magic hand out of mud. Thank you.
I just told you. Like I said, the human body contain alot of elements from that of dirt such as calculm, bone minerals and irons. There "biological" proof of properpility.
And FYI, God spoke through words to create, not by his hands.....
Ha! Lmao...no you need to do research. I've taken 2yrs of human evolution and its a joke, nothing but discrepancy and contradictions.....(sighs) I thought it was humorous before, now its just getting ridiculous: Currently taken human variation
Definition of evidence??? Obviously, scientist needs to get their priorities right, because Human Evolution lacks it.....
THERE IS NO PROVEN LINK OF HUMAN EVOLUTION YOU ASS, READ A BOOK!!
aka4god What Madrassah did you attend ? Of course you are smarter than the great majority of scientists in the appropriate fields. Everybody knows that. You took 2 years of evolution in sunday bible school right ? Go ahead man make a fool of yourself. I am not going to stop ya.
@lizazoon Actually, he's right. There are no missing links to prove a common ancestor to man. In fact it's more like a missing chain. Those that were put forward were either disproved or frauds. Those frauds were done by scientists to further evolution belief. I've been studying this for 4 years and I don't go to any church. Read Origins. Icons and Illusions: The psychology of Evolution and Creation by Harold R. Booher.
@aka4god: Would you mind explaining where, exactly, you've learned that the theory of evolution is problematic? What exactly was it that convinced you? I'd like to know. You don't seem to have any grounding in science in spite of your pretentions to advanced classes.
RT @puncheex I attend a 4 year university in New York City. I major in Anthropology B.S. I've taken a human evolution course with lab, ancient peoples & culture, and I've just completed human variation with lap. Our university uses excellent text books by the way. And this is my 4th year in college.
-You mean you NEVER been taught that human evolution is JUST theory. lol
Like I said , "There is no direct link to human evolution". Give me some undisputed evidence that evolution occurred
@aka4god: So, let me get this straight: you took an "evolution course with lab", and you learned that with "evolution is JUST a theory". You intimate that the university went to all this effort just to stuff it, or else you made this determination in spite of what you may have learned in your apparently wasted school time. I tend to the latter; you sound like the astronomer at AiG, Jason Lisle, who admitted he "had to lie" to profs at Colo U in earning his doctorate. Did you have to lie too?
RT @puncheex -_- simple .... Okay, lets put this in another way then ...... there's no proof of "HUMAN" evolution!! Because of scientist lack of evidence to support their claim, Universities must include creationism, which my prof felt obligated to teach us.
@aka4god: Naw, you're just being obtuse. There is genetic evidence in the comparison of the genomes of all the species we have so far done genomes for; there is morphological evidence in the bodies of both extinct and current hominids; there's chronological evidence in the results from the various dating methods used to date fossils. Science doesn't teach some theory because it is the only one (even if that were true) unless there is positive evidence for it.
But, you could be right - God could have made this all the way it appears 6000 years ago, or 30 minutes ago; there is no way to prove he didn't. Because of that possibility, science looks only for natural effects, and bars the supernatural. I must say that if you do believe that though, your god certainly has this penchant for deceiving; we'd call that lying if one of us were doing it. Would you call that omni-prevarication?
'evolutionists' dont care about the big bang, unless they are interested in physics.
Evolution is a biological theory, not even remotely related to the big bang.
I just dont see the parallell being drawn here.
Im actually quite sad that these myths are put out there, and poor kids trying to get a grip of reality here this stuff, andd than believe it to teach their kids. How will this cycle of misinformation end?
More science clasees? Probaly more education, and investment in educatio
Im offended as a science student who dreams of being titled a 'Doctor of biology' and this guy is sitting there saying mutatiosn never benefit an organism...
My god... there is no way he is a biologist.
If I owned a lab I could go in today and set up an experiment, and in 2 weeks ill show you a beneficial mutation. All I need is ecoli reproducing.
Evolution does not violate law of thermodynamics because the sun provides energy allowing 'uphill' energy movvement of energy.
Our Schools of Higher Learning were Founded and Paid for by Christians and we give a degree to an ungrateful Atheist.
The Bible teaches God has always existed and HE created Time and element, Space an element and matter an element. God is Spirit but has total control of the Physical Universe and Laws within them. English translation "From Eternity to Eternity thou art God" the Greek says "From the Everlasting into the Everlasting thou art God" "I the lord thy God I do not change"
Ratings disabled,video responses disabled, next on the list will be text responses disabled..."Creation is proven, is it?
putting the mass of the earth together generated friction,which is also required to keep the mass together...friction means heat, lots of it!! In fact a startling amount, as follows~
mass of Earth = 5.9742 × 10 24th kilograms
the speed of light = 300,000,000 m / s
E=mc2, resulting in 54x10 40th joules of energy,or
meaning there is 69 x 10 53rd ev in excess of the minimum
fusion requirement...6 day creation means Earth is a sun, not a planet!
Since we are clearly upon a planet, and the mathematic requirements are both well-known and proven, there is but one conclusion-Genesis is wrong. Creation is NOT proven!
Illinois Institute of Technology, University of Toronto Department of Physics,
And the rest of the biblical hooey goes along with it-->no flood,no ark, the fossil recored is thoroughly researched and valid as is Biology, Botany, Zoology, Geology, and evolution! Give up the delusions and stop believing the absolute liars Martin,Hovind, Lee Strobel, Chuck Missler, Charlie H Cambell,Janet Folger, Steve Anderson,Billy Crone, at al
They couldn't tell the truth if their children's lives depended on it!!
Dr Martin. Dr. Hovind. Lee Strobel. Chuck Missler. Charlie H Cambell "Amazing Evidences for the Bible". Case for Christ" "Case for Creator" "Creatures that Defy Evolution" "Evidence that Demands a Verdict a and 2" Russ Miller Creation Science and Evolution Ministry. AND THE OBVIOUS INTELLIGENCE that cells need to form a life.
People like Hovind are "Dr.'s" from unaccredited universities. So Hovind is a teacher of science in a school he set up himself. Therefore he calling himself a science teacher is a logical fallacy. He's calling himself a science teacher based on the premise that he says he's a science teacher.
this argument about who created us or how we came about is just taking all of us the wrong way...all of you interested on understanding where we came from n how we begun? Look deep within yourself....quite your mind your thoughts...and just visualize yourself how wonderful you are ..at peace with unconditional love to all the brothers and sisters of this beautiful planet of ours...Mother Earth...our Paradise.
maybe...maybe for once we all should for a moment stop...close your eyes, take a deep breath and sense all your perfect physical body and imagine an explosion of appreciation gattitude and love of who you are as a Spiritual Being perfect in every way..now observed yourself with someone elses eyes..he is exactly the same as you...we are all the same no difference!!
Christians believe that God 'just was' and atheist jump on their backs saying that its unscientific and irational. Yet they then respond by saying that matter 'just was' and then exploded! now tell me that isnt a religion, where did matter come from? you cant even come up with a MODEL to adequatly explain matter. so evolution is religious and unscientific!
your really confused about 'beneficial' mutations, you really should do some research on mutations because their is a difference between information-gaining mutations(which are very rare) and the ones u listed before which are information losing mutations
What is 'beneficial' depends on the environment, so no.. I am not confused.
If malaria were wide spread and we didnt have medicine, the sickle cell gene would prolifirate and would become the 'norm' probably over time, it would become more efficent at transporting oxygen whilst resisting the virus. I am using a hypothetical situation to show that a negative or positive mutation is environmental dependant.
BTW sickle cell is not a loss or gain of info.. it is a point mutation.
We are not so arrogant to say we know absolutely everytihng, but are humble enough to say... 'for now we dont know, but we have this idea... we think over time more answers will come'
your all only qouting facts straight out of your manipulated text books, your refering to the unprovable religion of evolution rather than ACTUAL facts, just because you accept your indoctrination, it doesnt make it true!
It's amazing to see what a retard can come out with when you give him a video camera. Cause I cant help but feel this was one giant video made by, and made for the mentally challenged. The whole "Because Science admits the Universe had a beginning that it obviously began by someone" is so stupid, ugh.
There is no way of derepmening if hte universe is finite.
this video also asum the universe will expand for ever untill entropy consums all...
Thats not sertin at all.
Though dark energy seams to want to repel all matter from itself on a larger scale it seams this energy might in time transform into matter thus turning the balance and allowing gravity to collapse the universe togetter again creating a new singularity.
This video shows that creationist don't actually understand the 'science' they are pushing. There are so many fundamental flaws in their undrestanding it's like hearing a 9 y.o. tell you where babies come from! My head is spinning with rebutles for every thing I heard... and I used to be one of these I.D. guys... to think I sounded like this!
In the first sentence of this vid, the words 'Creation Scientists' came up. This right at the onset makes this vid totally bogus and out-to-lunch. There exists NO debate regarding the Tof E, none whatsoever within proper science. This vid is such a joke, I will call it a well constructed lie. Since when did science regard mutations as all negative and inducing disease states? Mutations can have a positive result and therefore allowing an organism to have an advantage to geneticallly pass on. Sad
Let's just pretend that there is a creator who created the universe, well, if so, then evolution might part of creation. Let's say, there is no creator, then how the universe appeared, out of nothing? Is there beginning and ending of it, or there is no beginning and ending of it? Maybe God jump started the process and it took off. Made it so that creatures can evolve, compete, mutate and adapt.
Maybe god did.. but doesnt that mean that the god of the old testament therefore is not the same person?
I think it would be odd to create the universe, than 15'999'998'000 into it send down your son (who is yourself) than die for the humans for the next 2000 years, although humans had already been around for 198'000 years
Just doesnt make sense to me, im sorry... really doesnt, and dont get how other people can make this, make sense, for themselves
Thats weird considering that due to the cause of solar collapse and the rate the sun is decreasing it would of meant that about a 100,000 years ago the sun would have been twice as big meaning no life would of been able to exist. Sorry but cell mutation and evolution are not the same. If so it would cancel out by all the birth defects and genes that increase peoples chance of getting cancer or other diseases.
At the same rate that the sun is decreasing go back each year and see how big it would of been. About 100,000 years ago it would have been twice the size it is now.
I did some very quick maths in my head, and even if the sun was twice the siez (which I doubt) than it would not consume the earth.
And dont blieve everything you read online. I asksed a physics student the other day about this and he started laughing... 100'000 years he explained was a nano second in universe terms. If u want big change in the sun it will take millions upon millions of years.
You did some quick math in your head, what. If we were any closer to the sun or any further away there would not be life on this planet, period. Check out what solar winds would do to this planet. At the rate of 80 feet a year, 50000 years ago life would not exist on this planet. Sorry didnt mean to say only 100000 years for a sun twice our size but 1,000,000. The point is the universe is really young, its not as old as scientist believe. Do you believe in evolution?
@Fr3ddy234 And what makes you think you are right, and thousands of scientists are wrong?
And yes of course I believe in evolutio,.... denying evolution would be like denying the fact the earth goesr ound the sun.
I can see where this convo is goin. Are you sure you want to continue. I know evolution very well, and have dealt with all the so called counter arguments so many times its boring.
Hey to your first point just because something is popular doesn't mean it is the truth. Now whether I am right or not is mainly your assumption because I believe a certain way. But i have looked into countless astrology points and reasons on why the universe and mainly our earth can't be 5 billion years old. I don't know much about evolution and I am always trying to gain knowledge but a lack of intermediate fossils strikes a concern in my eyes.
Whats about the point it appears all the suns are moving away from a particular point in space at a certain speed. If we backtrack, and see how long it is.. it is around 16 billion years to where all the suns meet.
Sorry been real busy lately between working and going from home to home. To the point of me guessing at the age of the universe honestly, i dont know. It could be 16 billions years old or it could be older. But i do not believe that life has been around for millions of years and just because the universe may or may not be that old is not a point to back up evolution. But im interested in how they know things are moving away, hit me up with a link i would like to check it out.
@Fr3ddy234 i feel sad for responding so quickly...
anyway, I dont have a link. but the internet is not the best resource, you will have to check out some astronomy texts in the library for good quality science. I assume physicists have a journal website (like the biochemists) I bet its very technical and hard to read (like the biomed ones)
I do know the movement thing is based on something called the red shift... to do with light movement, check it out on wikipedia
@Fr3ddy234 i agree an old universe doenst back up evolution one bit, but manyt creationists confuse the 2, so I have to defend both views.
For me the best evidence for evolution is the clear similarities across mammals. Also the dodgy designs in our bodies (appendix, bad knees etc)... animal domestication (variation of dogs) also its a definate fact that bacteria evolve very quickly. Also fossils obviously aid my belief, and the DNA similarites across species, which fits the tree of life
@Fr3ddy234 more evidence I find it hard to reject is the deeper we go down into rocks, the more different the fossils are. you can literally see an animal developing, as you get closer to the top.
also radiometric dating is another big piece of evidence. when we date something, there is a logical path... e.g. a dinosaur will give a age of 65 million, whereas a homo habilis will perhaps give a date of 2 million.
@Fr3ddy234 can I also add... in my country most christians believe in evolution. and say it is gods way of making animals. Its not an affront to your faith to accept a scientific theory based on evidence. If god made people, he made us with intelligence to look at facts and enquire about things (hence why we are so advanced). Jesus even said we should search for the truth.
I think a god who desgiend evolution deserves more respect than a god that magicked animals into being?
This will prove to be the biggest CON in the early 21st century. Religion vs. Science does NOT compute. Why? God is an urban legend, and organized religion is the most destructive force on the planet.
this series is so biased and uninformed it boggles the mind. well what can u expect from an uploader who has the profile picture of kirk cameron. face palm!. totally agree with 'lednerg'. if u want to defend the bible even the new testament king james version than u cant pick and choose versus and turn the page on horrific incest, sacrifices, stoning, death...
Mutations are NOT limited to birth defects and diseases.
The Big Bang was not an "explosion". It was the expansion of space-time, which continues to this day. Also, it was first put forward by a priest - not exactly one of your so-called "secular scientists".
If you're going to stick by a literal interpretation of the Bible, then you might as well start killing adulterers, keeping slaves, and eating kosher food. You can't afford to be selective about what you think God wants... right?
@lednerg The point was that the only mutations that have arisen in this generation are birth defects and diseases. There is only one mutation that has occurred which resulted in one good outcome (and a host of other bad problems) which is sickle cell anemia because of immunity to malaria. The idea that space and time are expanding is not fact. Priests also molest children... I could stick to the literal interpretation or I could experience the revelation of God
i said to compare us to car or home is completly unscientific.a being that is perfect can not create somthing imperfect, and if he knew what it is going to happen like we call omniscient why could he not know what man was going to do ,he even regret to create man wich to show his imperfections.I am very sad cause your being doop by man and in power that keep you in darknes from the truth and use religions to brainwash ,controle and enslave Religions is deceptive big lie and fary tale WAKE UP!!
not sure you can describe singularity to our known universe as an 'EXPLOSION' as mentioned several times in this Vid... so this video has lost ALL credabilty IMHO... and second.. what is an 'Evolutionist' anyway?... I'm not an 'ist' never met one? there's normal open mindedness as opposed to religious rhetoric that INSISTS on bringing up bronze aged MAN written ideology... or do we have to be a member of a backward cult to engage with the creators of this drivle?
totally bogus! but for those of the religious persuasion... my personal thought has always been. Creation=truth ie. non tampered by humans... so check THAT out and NOT some desert bronze aged ramblings of some beardy weardy sexist bigots... LIFE is amazing and day in day out we learn more... throw away any OLD idealism/theology and embrace everything you can learn yourrself today!... or is that just me? :-/
cujoenyo... what's yer point? are you not human?... it's time to wake up and smell the coffee! humans are NOT the dominant race in our 'time' we MAY have a stolen a few precious seconds in our arrogant naive way... but we inhabit less than 5% of 'habitable' space on Earth and if you then consider that 'habitable' space' is 5% of a thin coat of paint on a bowling ball then perhaps things are put into perspective... we are passengers... get used it! ;-)
humans suck. you guys make your selves like your all advanced and crap but if the world is like 1 billion years old or whatever and it took us this long to be where we are now then that is really really sad. and that means we are really really stupid.
lol... well its actually closer to 4 billion years old, and Humans have only been on it for maybe 150,000, which is a very small fraction of total history. And unlike the other 99% of species that are extinct since the planet arose, we've managed to completely conquer it.
Why, from more science and technology! You see, cujoenyo, with science and technology humans can do, well, just about anything. Prevent and cure disease? Check! Improve quality of living? Check! Allow us to appreciate and understand the beauty of nature? Check!
What does religion give us? Subservience to leaders who claim to be acting on the authority of a higher power.
it makes me sick to the stomach these self righteous religious pricks are still banging on... I live in the S.E. England near Stonehenge (estimated 1million man hours with no written instruction)... at LEAST here 5000 years ago we had SOME understanding of the cycle of life! whilst biblical counterparts 2000 years later were baking their brains in the desert!... quite how we let these ignorant religious morons dominate English history is the REAL mystery that needs answering and changing!
Beginning, Middle, End... children's books MAYBE!... Life is not Linear... it's time we got over ourselves and looked properly at the Universe without us as the focus of it!... Biblical!... w,w,what? the grand creator creates billions of galaxies containing billions of stars, our one with us orbiting/cooling... and then we wait till the mid 1400's Europe for the printing press to circulate poorly translated incomplete bronze-aged-desert-theological scribbles as OUR answer!!!? SHAMEFUL! :-(
This video is full of so much bullshit it's ridiculous.
Creationists like to use non-scientific words like "types" or "kinds" because they are very vague words and if they were to outright say that one species has never gone to another species they would be proven wrong rather quickly so they stick to this vague terminology.
So are any of you even humble enough to admit that there is a possibility that what we know about science, or what we think we know about science, may be wrong? It was all designed by man, theorized by man, thought up by man, and man makes errors.
If you can't admit to the possibility of being wrong, then you're not a scientist. Science should be the search for truth. Not ignorance.
So let's everyone take a deep breath, pull up your big girl panties and stop bickering like twits.
the argument from thermodynamics is an argument from ignorance. "order" is not something explitely defined. Human beings DO increase entropy (disorder) in the universe via our metabolism. We take simple (ordered) particles int he form of food, and break them down, releasing energy and more particles (a negative enthalpy change, positive entropy change). again, this video is BS
nothing has to be believed... You calling God an 'imaginary friend' is rather ignorant to me. Complexity is all. The big bang came forth from a dimensionless singularity. U have answers? Did this growing universe suddenly happen out of nothing...? Nothing is impossible. We can speculate about this, but a possible 'before that Creator' is a very possible explanation (btw I'm agnostic). What, according to you caused this universe to exist? Peace
it seems we can create life here is it possible we can create life elsewhere does it matter who u are or what u are we is it posbl that god put us here to prove his creation is best in his image he did create and man seems to be very curious vry sudnly to have this gift also so i dont think it matters who or what u are its no race on who can or not isnt the way we realy are isnt God proud of us as his image regarless of any other beings or nephalims or whatvr is out there
If these men are making scientific hypothesis support by any evidence that is peer reviewed and directly contradicts, through the evidence, ANY of the theories represented please let the rest of the scientific community know. OTHERWISE, what they "wish" to be true is not scientific and is merely a hope not founded in any sense of factual representation.
Ignorant bullshit. The big bang was not an explosion. It was an expansion. That changes the whole thing and ultimately renders this vidio useless and not credible.
"IT was an expansion" "NO, It was an explosion" "No it was a spinning ball of energy" The big bang keeps getting busted, so evolutionists keep changing the theory.
You do not understand and misinterpret Darwinian Evolution. You do not understand and misinterpret the second law of thermodynamics. You do not understand and misinterpret the big bang theory. You do not understand and misinterpret the predictions general relativity makes about the big bang singularity and space-time expansion. Quite simply creationists either do not (or more likely choose not to) understand the correct interpretation of varified and accepted scientific theories.
I am sure the flat-Earth hard-heads said the same thing thousands of years ago. The fact is that evolution is not fact or proven and science is in constant flux, so you can't say for sure.
Evolution, by virtue of its being a theory, cannot be proven, but the evidence in favor of it is so overwhelming that 99.85% of scientists in this country support it. Additionally, not a single viable piece of evidence has ever been presented to contradict it. If such a piece of evidence had been introduced, evolution would be in the garbage can. But the fact of the matter is that evolution gets stronger every year from new emerging evidence.
I can't belief this, those engineers and scientists have to know better. Evolution is not in contradiction off the second law of thermodynamics! The universe is growing in entropy but if you are thinking (in black and white) as they do. Then the growing of plants and everything that has to do with a decrease in entropy in a small system is impossible.
Don't be daft... everyone knows Gods creation is Perfect! Just look around you... perfection everywhere... Go to Africa and see the perfect work eating the inside of a little girls eyeball. Perfect...? Hold on a sec... something is wrong here. Did God create some worms to eat the inside of peoples eyes?
Of course it's perfect. We're so used to being top of the food chain and preying on the earth that we don't stop to think that maybe we're just being prayed upon. Everywhere u look u see it in nature. It's like natures way of keeping a ballance and maybe 'african killing' worms and diseases is mother natures way of saying 'there's too many of u fuckers to keep a balance'.
what idiots, after 5:20 you can turn off this video. Have no clue how physics works... duh. "order".. what is "order"? In EVERY star single proton hydrogen atoms fuse and form two proton helium. Idiots, go back to high-school.
4:35-the big bang was an expansion of matter, not an explosion
I watched the national geo. the other night and they referred to the Big Bang was a huge explosion,hence the term Big Bang!Now I know that explosions aren't heard in the frictionlessness of space,but things still explode.
that guys is misunderstanding the big bang. it was never an explosion, but an expansion of matter, space, time. ya, ill take adice on cosmology from a biology person, syke.
agentorange20, the word "explosion" is not the problem, there are many ways words can be used that are non traditional.. when you think of a Population Explosion, do you imagine people blowing apart in a thermodynamic event? No, you understand "explosion" in this context means a sudden increase, or growth in number of a group or groups.
Stars are forming out of nebulaes just as our sun did. The sun was created from the remnants of a supernova: I think that constitutes order from disorder. This is BS.
Science does not have all the answers, and neither does Creation. The entire argument is a moot point. Science - testable observations. Religion - belief. We're only human. Tiny pinpricks in the scale of the universe. And to think some of us actually have the nerve to say "that can never happen, ever" or "this is definitely how humans came about" or anything so absolute is very ... well ... we can't be sure.
I am going to church right now...then teach Sunday school.
acyberguy 2 months ago in playlist Evolution and Creation
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Everything which has a beginning has a cause. At least try to get it right.
MrSandykramer 6 months ago
quit using abiogenesis and cosmology when you talk about evolution!!!!!
Waustvanput 8 months ago
Declaring the universe a closed system without knowing anything about it is folly. Science doesn't even have a theory of gravity they want to share with the common people, because all the basics are false. What they call science is a bunch of bald-faced propaganda. As Hitler said, don't tell small lies, they aren't believed; go with the big lies, the people are suckers for these. Scientists evolved into priests and unproven theories into dogmas.
oxymoron616 1 year ago
RELIGION = PERMANENT PURVEYORS OF PIFFLE
evidenceonly 1 year ago 3
Are you telling me these people have legitimate scientific careers? well, I guess that means I have a Job when I get older, cause these people are fucking stupid.
MrMantastic9 1 year ago
Creation ''Scientists' don't believe in natural selection, that is evolution.
Evolution has been seen happening in nature and in the lab.
No debate is ''raging on''
The Big Bang is not evolution, it was not an explosion.
Typical Creationists crap video.
gregrutz 1 year ago
I'd like to see evolution in the context of origins taught as theory not fact. It's little more than an hypothesis and is branded as proven fact. That's an outright lie. Science is: " the systematic study of the nature and behaviour of the material and physical universe, based on observation, experiment, and measurement, and the formulation of laws to describe these facts in general terms". Darwinism isn't.
BogusDonut 1 year ago
@BogusDonut : Do you believe in astronomy / How much of astronomy is based on experiment . Has anything in astronomy been reproduced in the lab ? Evolution is as solid a theory as gravity. Just consider the silliness of the alternative. Did you ever read Genesis ? When was the last time you saw a clump of mud come alive, by blowing over it ?
lizazoon 1 year ago
@BogusDonut: Not a lie. Evolution is an observed fact; you could even call animal breeding loosely controlled experiments in the theory; they're fact as well. The Theory of Evolution is a theory, an inference over the commonality of all these facts, and, like all theories, provisional. "Darwinism" was the first statement of the theory; new facts discovered lead to the new synthesis , and now, with genetics, newer and more powerful understandings. See wiki, "New Synthesis".
puncheex 1 year ago
This is a very bad video: propaganda and not information. I can't watch it anymore. These people should be ashamed of themselves.
Ycepham 1 year ago
@Ycepham Any video showing the problems in evolution theory are called propaganda. Shame on those who print lies for kids to be taught. You gave no reasons for you complaint. Why is it bad? There is information. You just don't like it.
BogusDonut 1 year ago
@BogusDonut Shame on people who lie to children. 2.55 "evolution doesn't happen" that is a lie that people holding on to Iron-Age beliefs want to propagate to their "kids". I will tell my children about the scientific method and how life is precious and not to squander it on beliefs of fictional characters be they Harry potter, Allah (may his name never be praised), or jesus (aka Horus or mithras).
This is not information. It is religious dogma: not science.
Ycepham 1 year ago
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@Ycepham: I agree; it seems that creationists will stop at nothing in lying for Christ.
puncheex 1 year ago
Why do you think the Vatican has no objection to evolution ? when it do obviously contradicts Genesis ?
lizazoon 1 year ago
I have taken human evolution, and advanced anthropology, and sence then I've learned that Evolution is problematic. The reason why its so popular is bc it deals with science and theory, and with some reasoning, it may seem possible. But creation is terms of a divine intervention seems very possible as well.
aka4god 2 years ago
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aka4god-- But creation is terms of a divine intervention seems very possible as well.-- In 6.000 yeras not a single piece of evidence for creation has been produced. Yet you demand prove for evolution to the smallest detail.
lizazoon 1 year ago
yr an idiot. u want the scientific method 2 prove God when it doesn't even prove evolution. u can't apply it 2 God. do u love yr wife or family? prove it using the scientific method.
unfrzncvmnloyr 1 year ago
aka4god: So you put creation and evolution on the same level of possibility. Now give me an inkling how god made Adam out of mud ?
lizazoon 1 year ago
I had a professor say that ppl can't prove religion. I've stand by saying, that the inconsistencies of science itself gives credit to proving religion or spirtuality.
If you knew better, you would notice that humans, are actully made up of alot of elements same as dirt such as Calculm....etc
Basically, man was formed from his creation which was already there .... dirt. Literally this is trure. WHAT A COINCIDENCE from those time, since they knew nothing of human variation....
aka4god 1 year ago
aka4god :You ask for evidence for evolution, may I ask you some evidence for the creation story, that man was formed by a magic hand out of mud. Thank you.
lizazoon 1 year ago
I just told you. Like I said, the human body contain alot of elements from that of dirt such as calculm, bone minerals and irons. There "biological" proof of properpility.
And FYI, God spoke through words to create, not by his hands.....
aka4god 1 year ago
aka4god : And that is your evidence for creation? Go to school, and learn the definition of evidence.
lizazoon 1 year ago
Ha! Lmao...no you need to do research. I've taken 2yrs of human evolution and its a joke, nothing but discrepancy and contradictions.....(sighs) I thought it was humorous before, now its just getting ridiculous: Currently taken human variation
Definition of evidence??? Obviously, scientist needs to get their priorities right, because Human Evolution lacks it.....
THERE IS NO PROVEN LINK OF HUMAN EVOLUTION YOU ASS, READ A BOOK!!
aka4god 1 year ago
aka4god What Madrassah did you attend ? Of course you are smarter than the great majority of scientists in the appropriate fields. Everybody knows that. You took 2 years of evolution in sunday bible school right ? Go ahead man make a fool of yourself. I am not going to stop ya.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon Actually, he's right. There are no missing links to prove a common ancestor to man. In fact it's more like a missing chain. Those that were put forward were either disproved or frauds. Those frauds were done by scientists to further evolution belief. I've been studying this for 4 years and I don't go to any church. Read Origins. Icons and Illusions: The psychology of Evolution and Creation by Harold R. Booher.
BogusDonut 1 year ago
@aka4god: Would you mind explaining where, exactly, you've learned that the theory of evolution is problematic? What exactly was it that convinced you? I'd like to know. You don't seem to have any grounding in science in spite of your pretentions to advanced classes.
puncheex 1 year ago
RT @puncheex I attend a 4 year university in New York City. I major in Anthropology B.S. I've taken a human evolution course with lab, ancient peoples & culture, and I've just completed human variation with lap. Our university uses excellent text books by the way. And this is my 4th year in college.
-You mean you NEVER been taught that human evolution is JUST theory. lol
Like I said , "There is no direct link to human evolution". Give me some undisputed evidence that evolution occurred
aka4god 1 year ago
@aka4god: So, let me get this straight: you took an "evolution course with lab", and you learned that with "evolution is JUST a theory". You intimate that the university went to all this effort just to stuff it, or else you made this determination in spite of what you may have learned in your apparently wasted school time. I tend to the latter; you sound like the astronomer at AiG, Jason Lisle, who admitted he "had to lie" to profs at Colo U in earning his doctorate. Did you have to lie too?
puncheex 1 year ago
RT @puncheex -_- simple .... Okay, lets put this in another way then ...... there's no proof of "HUMAN" evolution!! Because of scientist lack of evidence to support their claim, Universities must include creationism, which my prof felt obligated to teach us.
aka4god 1 year ago
@aka4god: Naw, you're just being obtuse. There is genetic evidence in the comparison of the genomes of all the species we have so far done genomes for; there is morphological evidence in the bodies of both extinct and current hominids; there's chronological evidence in the results from the various dating methods used to date fossils. Science doesn't teach some theory because it is the only one (even if that were true) unless there is positive evidence for it.
puncheex 1 year ago
But, you could be right - God could have made this all the way it appears 6000 years ago, or 30 minutes ago; there is no way to prove he didn't. Because of that possibility, science looks only for natural effects, and bars the supernatural. I must say that if you do believe that though, your god certainly has this penchant for deceiving; we'd call that lying if one of us were doing it. Would you call that omni-prevarication?
puncheex 1 year ago
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KKM121 2 years ago
'evolutionists' dont care about the big bang, unless they are interested in physics.
Evolution is a biological theory, not even remotely related to the big bang.
I just dont see the parallell being drawn here.
Im actually quite sad that these myths are put out there, and poor kids trying to get a grip of reality here this stuff, andd than believe it to teach their kids. How will this cycle of misinformation end?
More science clasees? Probaly more education, and investment in educatio
markgg1 2 years ago
Im amazed they have used the law of thermodynamics.
Amazed.....
We dont know how the energy got here, nobody does. Ok say god did it... fine if you like, but im not convinced.
But you guys dont stop there... Also talking snakes, virgin births etc...
markgg1 2 years ago
Im offended as a science student who dreams of being titled a 'Doctor of biology' and this guy is sitting there saying mutatiosn never benefit an organism...
My god... there is no way he is a biologist.
If I owned a lab I could go in today and set up an experiment, and in 2 weeks ill show you a beneficial mutation. All I need is ecoli reproducing.
Evolution does not violate law of thermodynamics because the sun provides energy allowing 'uphill' energy movvement of energy.
markgg1 2 years ago
Thanx for posting! :)
Eye2EyeIIIV 2 years ago
Ratings disabled. Why am I not surprised? You must know that what you preach is bullshit if you just disable ratings.
shreddakj 2 years ago
badly researched.. stop pretending religion is science.
bananacake100 2 years ago
Our Schools of Higher Learning were Founded and Paid for by Christians and we give a degree to an ungrateful Atheist.
The Bible teaches God has always existed and HE created Time and element, Space an element and matter an element. God is Spirit but has total control of the Physical Universe and Laws within them. English translation "From Eternity to Eternity thou art God" the Greek says "From the Everlasting into the Everlasting thou art God" "I the lord thy God I do not change"
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
Ratings disabled,video responses disabled, next on the list will be text responses disabled..."Creation is proven, is it?
putting the mass of the earth together generated friction,which is also required to keep the mass together...friction means heat, lots of it!! In fact a startling amount, as follows~
mass of Earth = 5.9742 × 10 24th kilograms
the speed of light = 300,000,000 m / s
E=mc2, resulting in 54x10 40th joules of energy,or
86.4x10 59th electron volts of energy
pontecanis 2 years ago
Minimum energy for fusion is 17.1 x 10 6th ev,
meaning there is 69 x 10 53rd ev in excess of the minimum
fusion requirement...6 day creation means Earth is a sun, not a planet!
Since we are clearly upon a planet, and the mathematic requirements are both well-known and proven, there is but one conclusion-Genesis is wrong. Creation is NOT proven!
Illinois Institute of Technology, University of Toronto Department of Physics,
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pontecanis 2 years ago
And the rest of the biblical hooey goes along with it-->no flood,no ark, the fossil recored is thoroughly researched and valid as is Biology, Botany, Zoology, Geology, and evolution! Give up the delusions and stop believing the absolute liars Martin,Hovind, Lee Strobel, Chuck Missler, Charlie H Cambell,Janet Folger, Steve Anderson,Billy Crone, at al
They couldn't tell the truth if their children's lives depended on it!!
pontecanis 2 years ago
ooops! Fossil record...
pontecanis 2 years ago
Dr Martin. Dr. Hovind. Lee Strobel. Chuck Missler. Charlie H Cambell "Amazing Evidences for the Bible". Case for Christ" "Case for Creator" "Creatures that Defy Evolution" "Evidence that Demands a Verdict a and 2" Russ Miller Creation Science and Evolution Ministry. AND THE OBVIOUS INTELLIGENCE that cells need to form a life.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
People like Hovind are "Dr.'s" from unaccredited universities. So Hovind is a teacher of science in a school he set up himself. Therefore he calling himself a science teacher is a logical fallacy. He's calling himself a science teacher based on the premise that he says he's a science teacher.
petitmann 2 years ago
this argument about who created us or how we came about is just taking all of us the wrong way...all of you interested on understanding where we came from n how we begun? Look deep within yourself....quite your mind your thoughts...and just visualize yourself how wonderful you are ..at peace with unconditional love to all the brothers and sisters of this beautiful planet of ours...Mother Earth...our Paradise.
Light Love Unity & Joy :)
roderickcaparoso 2 years ago
quite nice... but I still would like to know
And science is giving us the answer
markgg1 2 years ago
maybe...maybe for once we all should for a moment stop...close your eyes, take a deep breath and sense all your perfect physical body and imagine an explosion of appreciation gattitude and love of who you are as a Spiritual Being perfect in every way..now observed yourself with someone elses eyes..he is exactly the same as you...we are all the same no difference!!
roderickcaparoso 2 years ago
THE Bible is proven. Creation is proven.
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 2 years ago
Where?
kormyniska 2 years ago
Christians believe that God 'just was' and atheist jump on their backs saying that its unscientific and irational. Yet they then respond by saying that matter 'just was' and then exploded! now tell me that isnt a religion, where did matter come from? you cant even come up with a MODEL to adequatly explain matter. so evolution is religious and unscientific!
lew380 2 years ago
Noone knows where matter came from.. perhaps it always existed, than the laws of physics changed causing the big bang.
You can call this change god if you wish.. Although I wouldnt as god would need explaining.
And by the way, mutations do sometimes cause new good traits. Bacteria resist antibiotics is an example, or sickle cell anemia which reissts malaria.
If malaria was everywhere, and we hadnt invented antimalerials, this mutation would allow the survival of humans.
markgg1 2 years ago
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lew380 2 years ago
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your really confused about 'beneficial' mutations, you really should do some research on mutations because their is a difference between information-gaining mutations(which are very rare) and the ones u listed before which are information losing mutations
lew380 2 years ago
What is 'beneficial' depends on the environment, so no.. I am not confused.
If malaria were wide spread and we didnt have medicine, the sickle cell gene would prolifirate and would become the 'norm' probably over time, it would become more efficent at transporting oxygen whilst resisting the virus. I am using a hypothetical situation to show that a negative or positive mutation is environmental dependant.
BTW sickle cell is not a loss or gain of info.. it is a point mutation.
markgg1 2 years ago
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lew380 2 years ago
NO we don
We say we dont know how the universe started.
We are not so arrogant to say we know absolutely everytihng, but are humble enough to say... 'for now we dont know, but we have this idea... we think over time more answers will come'
This is science.
Come and join us
markgg1 2 years ago
your all only qouting facts straight out of your manipulated text books, your refering to the unprovable religion of evolution rather than ACTUAL facts, just because you accept your indoctrination, it doesnt make it true!
lew380 2 years ago
It's amazing to see what a retard can come out with when you give him a video camera. Cause I cant help but feel this was one giant video made by, and made for the mentally challenged. The whole "Because Science admits the Universe had a beginning that it obviously began by someone" is so stupid, ugh.
Punkinthepark1 2 years ago 3
They also ignore the infinet regres of the god argument...
Who created god?
and who created him?
and who whas his creator?
and who created the creator of hte creator of the creator?
if your gonna argue that god made then thats as valid as argue the flying spageti monster made the universe!
ZerqTM 2 years ago 3
They missrepresent everything!
There is no way of derepmening if hte universe is finite.
this video also asum the universe will expand for ever untill entropy consums all...
Thats not sertin at all.
Though dark energy seams to want to repel all matter from itself on a larger scale it seams this energy might in time transform into matter thus turning the balance and allowing gravity to collapse the universe togetter again creating a new singularity.
ZerqTM 2 years ago
they are totaly distoring the mening of evolution.
Evolution does not turn modern apes into humans.
modern apes and modern humans evolved from a common ansestors!
this christian propaganda is dumb ass! as hell!
There trying to pull down sciense to there gutter level of thinking.
This is the worse kind of psudo-science crap i've ever seen!
ZerqTM 2 years ago 2
This is the kind of propaganda that made me abandon Christianity.
BohemianBlasphemy 2 years ago 3
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BuzzardlyThings 2 years ago
This video shows that creationist don't actually understand the 'science' they are pushing. There are so many fundamental flaws in their undrestanding it's like hearing a 9 y.o. tell you where babies come from! My head is spinning with rebutles for every thing I heard... and I used to be one of these I.D. guys... to think I sounded like this!
shanemccurdy 2 years ago
In the first sentence of this vid, the words 'Creation Scientists' came up. This right at the onset makes this vid totally bogus and out-to-lunch. There exists NO debate regarding the Tof E, none whatsoever within proper science. This vid is such a joke, I will call it a well constructed lie. Since when did science regard mutations as all negative and inducing disease states? Mutations can have a positive result and therefore allowing an organism to have an advantage to geneticallly pass on. Sad
saxmanchiro 2 years ago
I would suggest the people who made this video look up the word 'speciation' and the phrase 'occurrences of speciation' ASAP
drab100 2 years ago
The title makes this video seem fair. But after a few minutes, you'll see it's very bias.
throatoysters 2 years ago
Let's just pretend that there is a creator who created the universe, well, if so, then evolution might part of creation. Let's say, there is no creator, then how the universe appeared, out of nothing? Is there beginning and ending of it, or there is no beginning and ending of it? Maybe God jump started the process and it took off. Made it so that creatures can evolve, compete, mutate and adapt.
NtlgntNrg 2 years ago
Maybe god did.. but doesnt that mean that the god of the old testament therefore is not the same person?
I think it would be odd to create the universe, than 15'999'998'000 into it send down your son (who is yourself) than die for the humans for the next 2000 years, although humans had already been around for 198'000 years
Just doesnt make sense to me, im sorry... really doesnt, and dont get how other people can make this, make sense, for themselves
markgg1 2 years ago
Thats weird considering that due to the cause of solar collapse and the rate the sun is decreasing it would of meant that about a 100,000 years ago the sun would have been twice as big meaning no life would of been able to exist. Sorry but cell mutation and evolution are not the same. If so it would cancel out by all the birth defects and genes that increase peoples chance of getting cancer or other diseases.
Fr3ddy234 2 years ago
twice the size?
where have you got this fact from?
Cancel out? please explain more. I dont understand what you mean.
Thanks
markgg1 2 years ago
At the same rate that the sun is decreasing go back each year and see how big it would of been. About 100,000 years ago it would have been twice the size it is now.
Fr3ddy234 2 years ago
Wheres your evidence?
markgg1 2 years ago
Its simple mathematics man.
Fr3ddy234 2 years ago
Ive never heard this theory on the sun. Can u point me to evidence... its a very simple requuest.
dont just assert things to be true, without any evidence.
markgg1 2 years ago
Look it up man. Thats why i have intentionally not telling you things so you could look up yourself and make your own assement.
Fr3ddy234 2 years ago
@Fr3ddy234 hello
I did some very quick maths in my head, and even if the sun was twice the siez (which I doubt) than it would not consume the earth.
And dont blieve everything you read online. I asksed a physics student the other day about this and he started laughing... 100'000 years he explained was a nano second in universe terms. If u want big change in the sun it will take millions upon millions of years.
markgg1 2 years ago
You did some quick math in your head, what. If we were any closer to the sun or any further away there would not be life on this planet, period. Check out what solar winds would do to this planet. At the rate of 80 feet a year, 50000 years ago life would not exist on this planet. Sorry didnt mean to say only 100000 years for a sun twice our size but 1,000,000. The point is the universe is really young, its not as old as scientist believe. Do you believe in evolution?
Fr3ddy234 2 years ago
@Fr3ddy234 And what makes you think you are right, and thousands of scientists are wrong?
And yes of course I believe in evolutio,.... denying evolution would be like denying the fact the earth goesr ound the sun.
I can see where this convo is goin. Are you sure you want to continue. I know evolution very well, and have dealt with all the so called counter arguments so many times its boring.
markgg1 2 years ago
Hey to your first point just because something is popular doesn't mean it is the truth. Now whether I am right or not is mainly your assumption because I believe a certain way. But i have looked into countless astrology points and reasons on why the universe and mainly our earth can't be 5 billion years old. I don't know much about evolution and I am always trying to gain knowledge but a lack of intermediate fossils strikes a concern in my eyes.
Fr3ddy234 2 years ago
I agree that popularity doesnt equal a fact.
Whats about the point it appears all the suns are moving away from a particular point in space at a certain speed. If we backtrack, and see how long it is.. it is around 16 billion years to where all the suns meet.
What do you think of that?
how old do you think the universe is than?
markgg1 2 years ago
Sorry been real busy lately between working and going from home to home. To the point of me guessing at the age of the universe honestly, i dont know. It could be 16 billions years old or it could be older. But i do not believe that life has been around for millions of years and just because the universe may or may not be that old is not a point to back up evolution. But im interested in how they know things are moving away, hit me up with a link i would like to check it out.
Fr3ddy234 2 years ago
@Fr3ddy234 i feel sad for responding so quickly...
anyway, I dont have a link. but the internet is not the best resource, you will have to check out some astronomy texts in the library for good quality science. I assume physicists have a journal website (like the biochemists) I bet its very technical and hard to read (like the biomed ones)
I do know the movement thing is based on something called the red shift... to do with light movement, check it out on wikipedia
markgg1 2 years ago
@Fr3ddy234 i agree an old universe doenst back up evolution one bit, but manyt creationists confuse the 2, so I have to defend both views.
For me the best evidence for evolution is the clear similarities across mammals. Also the dodgy designs in our bodies (appendix, bad knees etc)... animal domestication (variation of dogs) also its a definate fact that bacteria evolve very quickly. Also fossils obviously aid my belief, and the DNA similarites across species, which fits the tree of life
markgg1 2 years ago
@Fr3ddy234 more evidence I find it hard to reject is the deeper we go down into rocks, the more different the fossils are. you can literally see an animal developing, as you get closer to the top.
also radiometric dating is another big piece of evidence. when we date something, there is a logical path... e.g. a dinosaur will give a age of 65 million, whereas a homo habilis will perhaps give a date of 2 million.
i just cant see how you could reject all of this.
markgg1 2 years ago
@Fr3ddy234 can I also add... in my country most christians believe in evolution. and say it is gods way of making animals. Its not an affront to your faith to accept a scientific theory based on evidence. If god made people, he made us with intelligence to look at facts and enquire about things (hence why we are so advanced). Jesus even said we should search for the truth.
I think a god who desgiend evolution deserves more respect than a god that magicked animals into being?
markgg1 2 years ago
@Fr3ddy234 anyway, shit im dodging a borign essay to reply... better get back to the reading
peace
markgg1 2 years ago
this is complete bull shit their trying to debunk evolution with the big band theory there two completely different fields
pacheco28 3 years ago 2
Lady paleontologist explains transitionals .Many paleo lectures / classes online . More added monthly.
"Transitional Fossils in Evolution pt. 1 of4"
flyingscience 3 years ago
Creation and evolution could be the case. A creation that evolves. Who says there has to be one or the other?
YT12345678910 3 years ago
"Creation Science," what a contradiction. OK it's really time to grow up. Religion deals in faith and science deals in reality. That's it!
Hellcat040369 3 years ago
It's like they know they're talking to idiots. Agreed iansragingbileduct, creationists are just people who don't understand evolution.
swushey 3 years ago
Creationist understand enough to disagree with the thought that life was jump-started by a lightning bolt into a puddle of soup.
Everlygirl1012 2 years ago
This is quite wrong. There really is no 'debate'. The only people who say there is any such debate are those who don't understand evolution.
iansragingbileduct 3 years ago
how can you not see the flaws in this nonsense?
ExtantD0d0 3 years ago 2
'all will grow old like a garment'
?????
How do creation "scientists" explain the birth of new stars then?
acme181169 3 years ago
Oh great, another creationist nonsense series.
CKtheFat 3 years ago
it's funny how people think ridicule is any kind of argument at all.....
lunabirdie 3 years ago
This will prove to be the biggest CON in the early 21st century. Religion vs. Science does NOT compute. Why? God is an urban legend, and organized religion is the most destructive force on the planet.
Jesus?? I FART in your general direction.
lookslikepat 3 years ago 5
this series is so biased and uninformed it boggles the mind. well what can u expect from an uploader who has the profile picture of kirk cameron. face palm!. totally agree with 'lednerg'. if u want to defend the bible even the new testament king james version than u cant pick and choose versus and turn the page on horrific incest, sacrifices, stoning, death...
broomball98 3 years ago 2
Mutations are NOT limited to birth defects and diseases.
The Big Bang was not an "explosion". It was the expansion of space-time, which continues to this day. Also, it was first put forward by a priest - not exactly one of your so-called "secular scientists".
If you're going to stick by a literal interpretation of the Bible, then you might as well start killing adulterers, keeping slaves, and eating kosher food. You can't afford to be selective about what you think God wants... right?
lednerg 3 years ago 7
@lednerg What other mutations are you referring to? Expansion of time-space that came from where? Where did the matter and energy come from?
BogusDonut 1 year ago
@lednerg The point was that the only mutations that have arisen in this generation are birth defects and diseases. There is only one mutation that has occurred which resulted in one good outcome (and a host of other bad problems) which is sickle cell anemia because of immunity to malaria. The idea that space and time are expanding is not fact. Priests also molest children... I could stick to the literal interpretation or I could experience the revelation of God
thunder12327 1 year ago
Creation Scientists?
Is this a joke.
Stupidity must have limits.
rapidflex 3 years ago 11
The finite universe, same as the finite past, are not science facts at all. They are creationists strawmen.
robheusd 3 years ago
sure, adaption, I absolutely agree with that. Evolution, man's flawed reasoning. Just like the denominational 'churches'.
pj650zmyn 3 years ago
this video series, like many posted by Zonkas are fundamentally flawed on their understanding of the Theory of Evolution.
Evolution is not about the big bang.
Evolution is not about how life got started.
Those are the big bang theory and abiogenesis.
Biological Evolution and natural selection are purely biological. This video series is attempting to confuse it.
ccheng21 3 years ago 6
i said to compare us to car or home is completly unscientific.a being that is perfect can not create somthing imperfect, and if he knew what it is going to happen like we call omniscient why could he not know what man was going to do ,he even regret to create man wich to show his imperfections.I am very sad cause your being doop by man and in power that keep you in darknes from the truth and use religions to brainwash ,controle and enslave Religions is deceptive big lie and fary tale WAKE UP!!
mystisme 3 years ago
why is my comments have nt been edited?
mystisme 3 years ago
not sure you can describe singularity to our known universe as an 'EXPLOSION' as mentioned several times in this Vid... so this video has lost ALL credabilty IMHO... and second.. what is an 'Evolutionist' anyway?... I'm not an 'ist' never met one? there's normal open mindedness as opposed to religious rhetoric that INSISTS on bringing up bronze aged MAN written ideology... or do we have to be a member of a backward cult to engage with the creators of this drivle?
adthemad69 3 years ago
totally bogus! but for those of the religious persuasion... my personal thought has always been. Creation=truth ie. non tampered by humans... so check THAT out and NOT some desert bronze aged ramblings of some beardy weardy sexist bigots... LIFE is amazing and day in day out we learn more... throw away any OLD idealism/theology and embrace everything you can learn yourrself today!... or is that just me? :-/
adthemad69 3 years ago
By the way, this video is so bogus. They are attacking evolution using a cosmology framework. Evolution is an observation of what happens in nature.
Creationism is a contrivance of Biblical teachings dictated by uneducated men 1500 to around 3000 years ago.
Creationists are getting owned so hard they're not even playing the same game and they don't even know it.
Scothodgins 3 years ago 2
ok sorry... but still not sure what yer point was?
adthemad69 3 years ago
lol that we suck and evolutionists think we are awsesome...
cujoenyo 3 years ago
cujoenyo... what's yer point? are you not human?... it's time to wake up and smell the coffee! humans are NOT the dominant race in our 'time' we MAY have a stolen a few precious seconds in our arrogant naive way... but we inhabit less than 5% of 'habitable' space on Earth and if you then consider that 'habitable' space' is 5% of a thin coat of paint on a bowling ball then perhaps things are put into perspective... we are passengers... get used it! ;-)
adthemad69 3 years ago
i never said that we were awsome and conquer a bunch i think you miss read my comment
cujoenyo 3 years ago
humans suck. you guys make your selves like your all advanced and crap but if the world is like 1 billion years old or whatever and it took us this long to be where we are now then that is really really sad. and that means we are really really stupid.
cujoenyo 3 years ago
lol... well its actually closer to 4 billion years old, and Humans have only been on it for maybe 150,000, which is a very small fraction of total history. And unlike the other 99% of species that are extinct since the planet arose, we've managed to completely conquer it.
antman8969 3 years ago
What can we say? Religion and superstition has held us back. Seems like those things are still trying to hold us back even today.
Scothodgins 3 years ago
hold us back from doing what?
cujoenyo 3 years ago
Why, from more science and technology! You see, cujoenyo, with science and technology humans can do, well, just about anything. Prevent and cure disease? Check! Improve quality of living? Check! Allow us to appreciate and understand the beauty of nature? Check!
What does religion give us? Subservience to leaders who claim to be acting on the authority of a higher power.
Scothodgins 3 years ago 3
"creation scientists" LOL
ExMuslim75 3 years ago
it makes me sick to the stomach these self righteous religious pricks are still banging on... I live in the S.E. England near Stonehenge (estimated 1million man hours with no written instruction)... at LEAST here 5000 years ago we had SOME understanding of the cycle of life! whilst biblical counterparts 2000 years later were baking their brains in the desert!... quite how we let these ignorant religious morons dominate English history is the REAL mystery that needs answering and changing!
adthemad69 3 years ago
Beginning, Middle, End... children's books MAYBE!... Life is not Linear... it's time we got over ourselves and looked properly at the Universe without us as the focus of it!... Biblical!... w,w,what? the grand creator creates billions of galaxies containing billions of stars, our one with us orbiting/cooling... and then we wait till the mid 1400's Europe for the printing press to circulate poorly translated incomplete bronze-aged-desert-theological scribbles as OUR answer!!!? SHAMEFUL! :-(
adthemad69 3 years ago 2
LOL cldn't agree more, I really don't get their logic
antman8969 3 years ago
To say there is adaptation but not evolution is silly.
Evolution IS adaptation over long periods of time. Logically i don't see how one can accept one and not the other.
JWonn 3 years ago
This video is full of so much bullshit it's ridiculous.
Creationists like to use non-scientific words like "types" or "kinds" because they are very vague words and if they were to outright say that one species has never gone to another species they would be proven wrong rather quickly so they stick to this vague terminology.
JWonn 3 years ago
So are any of you even humble enough to admit that there is a possibility that what we know about science, or what we think we know about science, may be wrong? It was all designed by man, theorized by man, thought up by man, and man makes errors.
If you can't admit to the possibility of being wrong, then you're not a scientist. Science should be the search for truth. Not ignorance.
So let's everyone take a deep breath, pull up your big girl panties and stop bickering like twits.
RhitherIsocPrulos 3 years ago
the argument from thermodynamics is an argument from ignorance. "order" is not something explitely defined. Human beings DO increase entropy (disorder) in the universe via our metabolism. We take simple (ordered) particles int he form of food, and break them down, releasing energy and more particles (a negative enthalpy change, positive entropy change). again, this video is BS
dalehamel 3 years ago
this video censors the truth... it reeks of BS.
dalehamel 3 years ago 2
I don't understand your line. You assert that a creationist cannot be a biochemist... You don't make sense.
cunovanvoorst 3 years ago
nothing has to be believed... You calling God an 'imaginary friend' is rather ignorant to me. Complexity is all. The big bang came forth from a dimensionless singularity. U have answers? Did this growing universe suddenly happen out of nothing...? Nothing is impossible. We can speculate about this, but a possible 'before that Creator' is a very possible explanation (btw I'm agnostic). What, according to you caused this universe to exist? Peace
cunovanvoorst 3 years ago
it seems we can create life here is it possible we can create life elsewhere does it matter who u are or what u are we is it posbl that god put us here to prove his creation is best in his image he did create and man seems to be very curious vry sudnly to have this gift also so i dont think it matters who or what u are its no race on who can or not isnt the way we realy are isnt God proud of us as his image regarless of any other beings or nephalims or whatvr is out there
brissychic 3 years ago
If these men are making scientific hypothesis support by any evidence that is peer reviewed and directly contradicts, through the evidence, ANY of the theories represented please let the rest of the scientific community know. OTHERWISE, what they "wish" to be true is not scientific and is merely a hope not founded in any sense of factual representation.
toolajm 4 years ago 2
Ignorant bullshit. The big bang was not an explosion. It was an expansion. That changes the whole thing and ultimately renders this vidio useless and not credible.
ASBO1THE1GREAT 4 years ago
"IT was an expansion" "NO, It was an explosion" "No it was a spinning ball of energy" The big bang keeps getting busted, so evolutionists keep changing the theory.
animalfreak147 4 years ago
Evolution has nothing to do with the Big Bang, and it never has.
bktennis2006 4 years ago 3
When was the big bang EVER discribed as an explosion?
When was the big bang EVER from a spinning ball of energy?
Can you please cite a reference for your strawman argument?
qabala 4 years ago
You do not understand and misinterpret Darwinian Evolution. You do not understand and misinterpret the second law of thermodynamics. You do not understand and misinterpret the big bang theory. You do not understand and misinterpret the predictions general relativity makes about the big bang singularity and space-time expansion. Quite simply creationists either do not (or more likely choose not to) understand the correct interpretation of varified and accepted scientific theories.
petertompsett 4 years ago 2
Evolution is a fact of nature, don't be a fucking retard. Sorry to be a dick but come on people.
toolateforrosesmusic 4 years ago
I am sure the flat-Earth hard-heads said the same thing thousands of years ago. The fact is that evolution is not fact or proven and science is in constant flux, so you can't say for sure.
zigzagzoo12 4 years ago
Evolution, by virtue of its being a theory, cannot be proven, but the evidence in favor of it is so overwhelming that 99.85% of scientists in this country support it. Additionally, not a single viable piece of evidence has ever been presented to contradict it. If such a piece of evidence had been introduced, evolution would be in the garbage can. But the fact of the matter is that evolution gets stronger every year from new emerging evidence.
bktennis2006 4 years ago 3
I can't belief this, those engineers and scientists have to know better. Evolution is not in contradiction off the second law of thermodynamics! The universe is growing in entropy but if you are thinking (in black and white) as they do. Then the growing of plants and everything that has to do with a decrease in entropy in a small system is impossible.
StenWalsch 4 years ago
:O really??is the sun n the stars dieing??
maioca17 4 years ago
They aren't close to death, but since they were once "born" they will "die." So yes, they are dying.
TheRealDom 4 years ago
it's not like they are "dying" - they will just burn out and become red giants, expand and destroy all the planets in their system.
wildbestia 4 years ago
haha yeer rite..
maioca17 4 years ago
it's a simple physical process. described in any physics book.
wildbestia 4 years ago
Don't be daft... everyone knows Gods creation is Perfect! Just look around you... perfection everywhere... Go to Africa and see the perfect work eating the inside of a little girls eyeball. Perfect...? Hold on a sec... something is wrong here. Did God create some worms to eat the inside of peoples eyes?
PowerAndPerception 4 years ago
Of course it's perfect. We're so used to being top of the food chain and preying on the earth that we don't stop to think that maybe we're just being prayed upon. Everywhere u look u see it in nature. It's like natures way of keeping a ballance and maybe 'african killing' worms and diseases is mother natures way of saying 'there's too many of u fuckers to keep a balance'.
ASBO1THE1GREAT 4 years ago
Yeah right? Oh man, crack a book, please.
andytoz 4 years ago
I believe in evolution as much as I believe in the unicorn. After all, the unicorn is an evolved horse.
zigzagzoo12 4 years ago
btw is wasn't pink lol
SuccessEntity 4 years ago
More wilfully ignorant BS from christian creationists
mattblackcat 4 years ago
Utter creationist rubbish again.
creationismisstupid 4 years ago
what idiots, after 5:20 you can turn off this video. Have no clue how physics works... duh. "order".. what is "order"? In EVERY star single proton hydrogen atoms fuse and form two proton helium. Idiots, go back to high-school.
wildbestia 4 years ago
4:35-the big bang was an expansion of matter, not an explosion
5:10-this whole argument is crazy, we have the sun (for the time being) as an outside energy source
6:30-it just turns to a load of shit at this point, and i realize that this was made by a person with the intellect of a four year old
ronmackay 4 years ago
4:35-the big bang was an expansion of matter, not an explosion
I watched the national geo. the other night and they referred to the Big Bang was a huge explosion,hence the term Big Bang!Now I know that explosions aren't heard in the frictionlessness of space,but things still explode.
CBALLEN 4 years ago
no, please READ up on it
it was believed to be an expansion, explosion is the tern used so that morons can attempt to grasp the concept
this vid is full of the standard half truths (and full lies) that we've been trying to fight for decades now
ronmackay 4 years ago
sorry, i didn't mean to sound like such a jerk, I've been drinking...
ronmackay 4 years ago
1:50-the vast majority of mutations are unobservable, there's an average of 4 genetic mutations per person
2:30-evolution is the accumulation of adaptations over a long period of time, one is an indication of the other
ronmackay 4 years ago
shortf: What other viable explanation do do propose to explain the variation of species?
AbstractReaIity 4 years ago
so lets assume that evolution is wrong, so it must be god? what an idiotic logic!
shortfu 4 years ago
What a shit video, if you approach science with a bias and with an attempt to prove primitive creation myths, this is what you get. God is imaginary.
dashpowers22 4 years ago
how blind can you atheists be?
nanaki7 4 years ago 3
a biochemist talks about cosmology....
how does that work ?
biochemists don't know jack about cosmology
papervampire 4 years ago
that guys is misunderstanding the big bang. it was never an explosion, but an expansion of matter, space, time. ya, ill take adice on cosmology from a biology person, syke.
agentorange20 4 years ago
agentorange20, the word "explosion" is not the problem, there are many ways words can be used that are non traditional.. when you think of a Population Explosion, do you imagine people blowing apart in a thermodynamic event? No, you understand "explosion" in this context means a sudden increase, or growth in number of a group or groups.
Muzaloth 4 years ago
Stars are forming out of nebulaes just as our sun did. The sun was created from the remnants of a supernova: I think that constitutes order from disorder. This is BS.
maynardgravy 4 years ago
Science does not have all the answers, and neither does Creation. The entire argument is a moot point. Science - testable observations. Religion - belief. We're only human. Tiny pinpricks in the scale of the universe. And to think some of us actually have the nerve to say "that can never happen, ever" or "this is definitely how humans came about" or anything so absolute is very ... well ... we can't be sure.
Voldyfied 4 years ago