INDEPENDENCE CAN ONLY WORK IF WE RECOGNIZE OUR INTERDEPENDENCE. If we do this right, both sides will enjoy an enormous peace dividend.By building mutually interdependent social, cultural, and economic institutions, we create incentives for prosperity on all sides, and establish alternatives to conflict. It is in our interest (speaking as an ardent Zionist), that we partner with the Palestinians to create something they will think twice about losing in a fight with us.
A PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts,as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations
yea right..actually israel shouldn't even be there..it's palestinian land..and jews helped by americans and british invaded palestine and stole a part of their country and give it to the jews...that's HISTORY bro..the jews shouldn.t be there
@BadTroll69 actually it Israel who has always sought peace and gaza is controlled by militant fundamentalist hamas who rejects peace, targets innocent Israeli civilians and calls for the death and destruction of Israelis and Jews.
What the hell? Violence brings violence. Is bloodshed justified just because bloodshed came to your door? We are all life, can we take life in the name of life?
@peaceonhotdogs Violence does not bring violence, otherwise we'd all still be fighting a war started before history. Get real. You oversimplify issues.
Violence only brings more violence if people don't understand why the violent act was taken. Violence, THEN education means no return violence will occur. Education before violence works even better. But each one on its own solves nothing.
@011258stooie hey i cant figure it out either, all i know is when muslim children are dying, im laughing !! i hope the jews drive palestine into the fucking ocean !!
@TheBrradsullivan I don't think you or anybody should celebrate death, or settle for hatred. We must be better than those who hate us. Israel seeks a partner for peace, hamas has consistently rejected peace and fatah has turned its back on peace. The only solution will be thru negotiations and concessions on both sides.
Events like this make it clear as day that what we need now is for Palestinians and Israelis sit down and talk thru problems. Pres. Abbas, you & PM Netanyahu must negotiate.
@daderone You are mistaken, look at WHY hamas rejects the peace. Israel needs to reduce its' borders. Nobody asked the Palestinian people when land was stolen from them to arbitrarily rebuild a nation. Nobody had the authority to do such a thing, Imagine if a great deal of france and the UK was stolen to rebuild the celtic nation that was stolen from them?
@LegendaryAsshole I know well why hamas rejects peace, it is due to its fundamental and fundamentalist foundations which seek & call 4 the destruction of Israele, a militant group that calls 4 armed violent conflict& openly targets civilian pop. with the intent 2 terrorize and murder. Israel withdrew unilaterally from Gaza almost a decade ago, hamas turned it into a wasteland and has only used it to attack its neighbors rather than build 4 its citizens.When London was a marsh we lived in Israel.
@daderone Yes but israel was destroyed. It belonged to the palestinians.. I'm sorry, but israel has no right to exist anymore. No other country has arbitrarily been recreated before just because a whole civilization of people skinned their elbows.
If I had the technology to do it, I'd seek a non lethal way to relocate all israelites forcefully.
@LegendaryAsshole well,i'm sorry but there is a way to relocate jews...and actually has been invented for about 70 years..it's called "Konzentrationslager"
@LegendaryAsshole Israel may have been occupied and invaded by many different empires but it never disapeared, especially not in the hearts of the Jewish people...those forced out and those who remained. Israel remains and is the homeland and nation of the Jewish people. You don't have the technology and your desire to tell or move Jewish people where you like may not be a new idea but its certainly not the best idea.
@daderone Look, invaded and occupied? that means destroyed. over the many HUNDREDS OF YEARS other civilizations built those places up, jewish as a race ceased to truly exist as of that point. That people chose to hold onto the RELIGION over the generations does not, a genetic jew, make.Being that there is no such thing as a genetic jew.
Jewish people became roving gypsies, travelling traders wandering the world. This put a strain on many societies nearly a hundred years ago. The outcome today -
@LegendaryAsshole actually thats niether true nor accurate. The land of Israel has been home to Jewish people for the last 3,000 years. We have inhabited the land since and continuously. Yes some were drove out, and empires occupied the land and ruled it by force and power but it remains and will always remain the home and nation of the Jewish people as well as their indigenous homeland and modern state. You've had plenty of time to come to grips and accept this reality.
@daderone I would accept this reality if what you suggested held any weight and even if true, mattered.. Tell me, where is the indigenous homeland of the druids today? Just curious as to why they haven't received their homeland back.
@daderone The outcome now is preferable, but it was done forcefully on an innocent nation all because the survivors of the war were awarded reparations by giving their country back. all because of an exaggerated claim of location.
Israel back when it was occupied and stolen was far smaller.
The technology I speak of as well, the issues are in power supply, I solve that and there will be a fast solution One that all will enjoy, even those currently in Israel.
@LegendaryAsshole the preferable outcome is has it has always been. For the Palestinians and the Arab states to accept a division of the land and to recognize Israel. To negotiate and talk, to advance diplomacy over war and to build not only a relationship but a better future for all the people of the region. Israel's borders have changed over history for many reasons, some thru war, other by nature and others due to demographic realities. Get real with the whole technology bs.
@daderone I don't believe that they deserve the land just by being descendants - but there is a solution to let them keep the land, while giving that land to the palestinians too.
@LegendaryAsshole again whether you believe they deserve it or not is not really your decision to make. How would you like me to decide whether you deserve to live in your city, state or country. Israel has offered, and I support the negotiation of a two state solution to the problem. They cannot be imposed by outside and have any legitimacy, in order for there to be a valid solution to this problem they will be the result of direct talks and negotiations between Israel and Palestine.
@daderone These direct talks wont happen, Israel doesn't exist. It has no justification, it's not a valid government and it's not of any authority. All of this was arbitrarily given through military force. Have you even studied the events around 1948? Are you fucking retarded? Despite them being rife with terrorism they are correct that Israel has no right to exist. and if I had the means, I'd make sure they won that fight.
@LegendaryAsshole and now you know why there is no peace, because shit for brains like you think that living in ignorance and denying the right and existence of your neighbor as well as violence supercede peace.
So I'll say it again since you're slow. Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people and is here to stay. The sooner you accept that the better. Yes we all get it, fights, well those you care about, denying Israel's right to exist and seeking its destruction, you support. Not peace.
@daderone You fail to distinguish existence with right to exist. Israel is country, its' culture has existed without it existing for centuries. No country has a right to exist, that they do exist is arbitrary, but even more so for israel.
If israel was destroyed tomorrow, the jewish people the world over would receive support, they would continue to live on, even thrive. THEY as individuals have the RIGHT to exist. But ever since Israel was created it's war crime after war crime.
@LegendaryAsshole Fine Israel has been in existence and has existed for the last 3,000 years & will exist 3,000 more. You can debate about what rights other people have by your standards, where u think people should live, can live, what they have do 2, don't have 2 do. You miss the point & will continue to. Many of Jewish people have returned;/stayed to/in their homeland over centuries exactly in spite of your wish or will 2 impose your opinion, desires & perspective on others, including me.
...and that might make you mad. Jewish people who have lived in the diaspora and who fled and were cast and driven out of their homeland, Jews who were taken as slaves and forced into ghettos. We've tried to make you and the world oh so happy wherever we went, you don't want to be happy and many of us have decided we're not going to just sit back and let our fate rest in your hands. We tried the whole idea where u got 2 decide & dictate where it was cool for Jews 2 live, didn't work too well.
So frankly and again, you can tell us of your pipe dreams to transport Jews. Its pure detachment and dillusion, as well as a waste of time. The future between Israel and its neighbors will be decided by the Israelis and their neighbors. Israel seeks a partner for peace while the Palestinians and others have consistently walked away from peace, turned their backs on negotiations, diplomacy. Israel will continue 2 defend its borders and citizens & calls Palestinians to negotiate for shared peace.
@LegendaryAsshole I guess the Native Americans are just members of a faith as well and have no right to their own sovereign territory, that the world and Americans owe and pay them no debt for the past which has shaped the realities of the future. I guess you would just use your magical transport technology on them too right?
@daderone The native americans are survivors still owning and on land that was being taken over without any war or rules of engagement. This is not even similar. Israel was lost to a war. If you can't see the difference that's unfortunately.
@LegendaryAsshole and if you don't see the similarities you are blind. The Israeli people are survivors and still own land in their ancestral homeland, taken over, invaded, oppressed by foreign invaders and expansive empires. Israel remains which is exactly why it is here today. Apparently thats over your head. What rules of engagement do you think any of Israel's enemies have ever followed in their failed attempts to destroy or rule the Jewish homeland. Israel remains indepedent & sovereign.
INDEPENDENCE CAN ONLY WORK IF WE RECOGNIZE OUR INTERDEPENDENCE. If we do this right, both sides will enjoy an enormous peace dividend.By building mutually interdependent social, cultural, and economic institutions, we create incentives for prosperity on all sides, and establish alternatives to conflict. It is in our interest (speaking as an ardent Zionist), that we partner with the Palestinians to create something they will think twice about losing in a fight with us.
tikkunolam613 6 months ago
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A PRAYER FOR PALESTINE FROM A JEW:Let us help them to create something extraordinary,just as we have for ourselves-it is in our best interest to do so! Let us help them to build a home they will love with all their hearts,as we love Israel with all of ours.! Let's teach each other how to win non-zero sum games. We are both great nations-let us never forget this!Let us nurture peace with both our enemies and our friends, and recognize that they are a mirror...reflecting light unto the nations
tikkunolam613 6 months ago
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SunnySide247 6 months ago
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bahasajawi 6 months ago
yea right..actually israel shouldn't even be there..it's palestinian land..and jews helped by americans and british invaded palestine and stole a part of their country and give it to the jews...that's HISTORY bro..the jews shouldn.t be there
BadTroll69 6 months ago
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if Gaza will continue kill innocent Jews in Israel.
GAZA WILL BE ,THE DUST OF HAMAS TERRORIST.
ISRAEL FOREVER
ISEL333 6 months ago
my video explains why in-depth
MysterEy1 6 months ago
israeli masacres peaceful palestinian people...fucking jews...88!
BadTroll69 6 months ago
@BadTroll69 actually it Israel who has always sought peace and gaza is controlled by militant fundamentalist hamas who rejects peace, targets innocent Israeli civilians and calls for the death and destruction of Israelis and Jews.
daderone 6 months ago
@BadTroll69 whatever u say neo nazi
daderone 6 months ago
stop the hate, stop the violence. pray for peace. coexist.
daderone 6 months ago 3
@daderone praying wont help, both sides need to be shelled by a third party and then they will sit down for peace.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole I'm sure that you're a political analyst and Middle East Specialist.
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone Suggesting that someone NEEDS to be a specialist to understand something is an argument on authority and I'm sure you know, holds no water.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole In order to be a realist in the Middle East you need to believe in miracles. Prayers will certainly get us further than violence.
daderone 6 months ago 2
Israel is really playing with fire now .. and everyone knows what happens when you play with fire.
umk82 6 months ago
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VajinalBloodFart 6 months ago
What the hell? Violence brings violence. Is bloodshed justified just because bloodshed came to your door? We are all life, can we take life in the name of life?
peaceonhotdogs 6 months ago
@peaceonhotdogs Most humans are inherently stupid.
They do not care about anybody else as long as they feel safe and are kept entertained.
So don´t waste your time brother. They don´t care.
Marco81MX 6 months ago
@peaceonhotdogs Violence does not bring violence, otherwise we'd all still be fighting a war started before history. Get real. You oversimplify issues.
Violence only brings more violence if people don't understand why the violent act was taken. Violence, THEN education means no return violence will occur. Education before violence works even better. But each one on its own solves nothing.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
lol pictures of Nasser.....
jonahfox 6 months ago
@jonahfox
Can you tell me whats funny about that ?
011258stooie 6 months ago
@011258stooie hey i cant figure it out either, all i know is when muslim children are dying, im laughing !! i hope the jews drive palestine into the fucking ocean !!
TheBrradsullivan 6 months ago
@TheBrradsullivan
jog on back to the swamp,were you belong. And enjoy your gloating, while you still have time.
011258stooie 6 months ago
@011258stooie ...hahah wtf is that supposed to mean, "while you still have time" dun dun dunnnnnnn ! lol
TheBrradsullivan 6 months ago
@TheBrradsullivan The cyber police were called, the consequences will never be the same.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole HAHAHAHAHAHAHA "the cyber police" HAHA you just made my day man !!
TheBrradsullivan 6 months ago
@TheBrradsullivan I don't think you or anybody should celebrate death, or settle for hatred. We must be better than those who hate us. Israel seeks a partner for peace, hamas has consistently rejected peace and fatah has turned its back on peace. The only solution will be thru negotiations and concessions on both sides.
Events like this make it clear as day that what we need now is for Palestinians and Israelis sit down and talk thru problems. Pres. Abbas, you & PM Netanyahu must negotiate.
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone You are mistaken, look at WHY hamas rejects the peace. Israel needs to reduce its' borders. Nobody asked the Palestinian people when land was stolen from them to arbitrarily rebuild a nation. Nobody had the authority to do such a thing, Imagine if a great deal of france and the UK was stolen to rebuild the celtic nation that was stolen from them?
Same thing.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole I know well why hamas rejects peace, it is due to its fundamental and fundamentalist foundations which seek & call 4 the destruction of Israele, a militant group that calls 4 armed violent conflict& openly targets civilian pop. with the intent 2 terrorize and murder. Israel withdrew unilaterally from Gaza almost a decade ago, hamas turned it into a wasteland and has only used it to attack its neighbors rather than build 4 its citizens.When London was a marsh we lived in Israel.
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone Yes but israel was destroyed. It belonged to the palestinians.. I'm sorry, but israel has no right to exist anymore. No other country has arbitrarily been recreated before just because a whole civilization of people skinned their elbows.
If I had the technology to do it, I'd seek a non lethal way to relocate all israelites forcefully.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole well,i'm sorry but there is a way to relocate jews...and actually has been invented for about 70 years..it's called "Konzentrationslager"
BadTroll69 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole Israel may have been occupied and invaded by many different empires but it never disapeared, especially not in the hearts of the Jewish people...those forced out and those who remained. Israel remains and is the homeland and nation of the Jewish people. You don't have the technology and your desire to tell or move Jewish people where you like may not be a new idea but its certainly not the best idea.
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone Look, invaded and occupied? that means destroyed. over the many HUNDREDS OF YEARS other civilizations built those places up, jewish as a race ceased to truly exist as of that point. That people chose to hold onto the RELIGION over the generations does not, a genetic jew, make.Being that there is no such thing as a genetic jew.
Jewish people became roving gypsies, travelling traders wandering the world. This put a strain on many societies nearly a hundred years ago. The outcome today -
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole actually thats niether true nor accurate. The land of Israel has been home to Jewish people for the last 3,000 years. We have inhabited the land since and continuously. Yes some were drove out, and empires occupied the land and ruled it by force and power but it remains and will always remain the home and nation of the Jewish people as well as their indigenous homeland and modern state. You've had plenty of time to come to grips and accept this reality.
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone I would accept this reality if what you suggested held any weight and even if true, mattered.. Tell me, where is the indigenous homeland of the druids today? Just curious as to why they haven't received their homeland back.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@daderone The outcome now is preferable, but it was done forcefully on an innocent nation all because the survivors of the war were awarded reparations by giving their country back. all because of an exaggerated claim of location.
Israel back when it was occupied and stolen was far smaller.
The technology I speak of as well, the issues are in power supply, I solve that and there will be a fast solution One that all will enjoy, even those currently in Israel.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole the preferable outcome is has it has always been. For the Palestinians and the Arab states to accept a division of the land and to recognize Israel. To negotiate and talk, to advance diplomacy over war and to build not only a relationship but a better future for all the people of the region. Israel's borders have changed over history for many reasons, some thru war, other by nature and others due to demographic realities. Get real with the whole technology bs.
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone I don't believe that they deserve the land just by being descendants - but there is a solution to let them keep the land, while giving that land to the palestinians too.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole again whether you believe they deserve it or not is not really your decision to make. How would you like me to decide whether you deserve to live in your city, state or country. Israel has offered, and I support the negotiation of a two state solution to the problem. They cannot be imposed by outside and have any legitimacy, in order for there to be a valid solution to this problem they will be the result of direct talks and negotiations between Israel and Palestine.
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone These direct talks wont happen, Israel doesn't exist. It has no justification, it's not a valid government and it's not of any authority. All of this was arbitrarily given through military force. Have you even studied the events around 1948? Are you fucking retarded? Despite them being rife with terrorism they are correct that Israel has no right to exist. and if I had the means, I'd make sure they won that fight.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole and now you know why there is no peace, because shit for brains like you think that living in ignorance and denying the right and existence of your neighbor as well as violence supercede peace.
So I'll say it again since you're slow. Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people and is here to stay. The sooner you accept that the better. Yes we all get it, fights, well those you care about, denying Israel's right to exist and seeking its destruction, you support. Not peace.
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone You fail to distinguish existence with right to exist. Israel is country, its' culture has existed without it existing for centuries. No country has a right to exist, that they do exist is arbitrary, but even more so for israel.
If israel was destroyed tomorrow, the jewish people the world over would receive support, they would continue to live on, even thrive. THEY as individuals have the RIGHT to exist. But ever since Israel was created it's war crime after war crime.
Goodbye :3
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole Fine Israel has been in existence and has existed for the last 3,000 years & will exist 3,000 more. You can debate about what rights other people have by your standards, where u think people should live, can live, what they have do 2, don't have 2 do. You miss the point & will continue to. Many of Jewish people have returned;/stayed to/in their homeland over centuries exactly in spite of your wish or will 2 impose your opinion, desires & perspective on others, including me.
daderone 6 months ago 2
...and that might make you mad. Jewish people who have lived in the diaspora and who fled and were cast and driven out of their homeland, Jews who were taken as slaves and forced into ghettos. We've tried to make you and the world oh so happy wherever we went, you don't want to be happy and many of us have decided we're not going to just sit back and let our fate rest in your hands. We tried the whole idea where u got 2 decide & dictate where it was cool for Jews 2 live, didn't work too well.
daderone 6 months ago
So frankly and again, you can tell us of your pipe dreams to transport Jews. Its pure detachment and dillusion, as well as a waste of time. The future between Israel and its neighbors will be decided by the Israelis and their neighbors. Israel seeks a partner for peace while the Palestinians and others have consistently walked away from peace, turned their backs on negotiations, diplomacy. Israel will continue 2 defend its borders and citizens & calls Palestinians to negotiate for shared peace.
daderone 6 months ago
@daderone Look, Judaism is a religion only. It does not justify them claiming an area they had already lost hundreds of years ago.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole I guess the Native Americans are just members of a faith as well and have no right to their own sovereign territory, that the world and Americans owe and pay them no debt for the past which has shaped the realities of the future. I guess you would just use your magical transport technology on them too right?
daderone 6 months ago 2
@daderone The native americans are survivors still owning and on land that was being taken over without any war or rules of engagement. This is not even similar. Israel was lost to a war. If you can't see the difference that's unfortunately.
LegendaryAsshole 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole and if you don't see the similarities you are blind. The Israeli people are survivors and still own land in their ancestral homeland, taken over, invaded, oppressed by foreign invaders and expansive empires. Israel remains which is exactly why it is here today. Apparently thats over your head. What rules of engagement do you think any of Israel's enemies have ever followed in their failed attempts to destroy or rule the Jewish homeland. Israel remains indepedent & sovereign.
daderone 6 months ago
@LegendaryAsshole you're so right about the analogy with the UK and the celtic nation...i think it's the same thing
BadTroll69 6 months ago
@011258stooie Nasser was a total joke.
jonahfox 6 months ago