Agree 100% with literally every point u make here. Along with the time that's passed, another reason I almost don't care if the fight happens now is that with every fight these two have I become more convinced Mayweather would do a job on Pacquiao. At one time I did edge towards Pacman (with the variety and sheer volume of punches it seemed inevitable that he would be able to catch Mayweather in a way that no fighter had ever done), but odd as this might seem, the turn for me happened during..
..his fight with Cotto. Cotto was well beaten once he allowed himself to be drawn into a brawl, until then he made a solid start behind a tight defence. It's pretty much a fact that Mayweather would be even more effective than Cotto both offensively and defensively AND for the full fight. Since then the seed has been planted in my mind that Mayweathers defensive/counter ability would be too much for pacquiao, and I've seen nothing yet to stop that seed from growin, quite the opposite infact.
good analysis man. I think previously there might have been enough interest for a trilogy and plenty of money all around for both fighters. But after Pac's recent performances I think the interest won't be what it was ... at least it isn't for me.
You make very good and valid points about this whole saga but i believe Bob Arum never wanted this fight. IMO ever since Floyd left Top Rank, Bob Arum has tried his hardest to destroy the mans career (mainly in the media) but has failed to do so. I reckon it's because Floyd is an independant boxer that has control of his own career. Imagine if every other fighter in Top Rank did what Floyd did...Arum wouldn't have any fighters to swindle millions off of LMAO!!! Pacquiao needs to smarten up fast.
split of money, weight fight, roach said interview want drained 140 floyd, drug test, pacmans team sent email ask what penatly for postive test, can it be hid from public, pacman team interviews i seen online saying that certain things can be hid from blood hard 2 detect urine, they said micera,that a 1 jag a month good blood builder, roach said interview that you can easily hide hgh, human growth hormones, nevada would also take samples, samples always goes 2 impartial body as well
Ok dude, watch Silva vs Sonnen then make another video about why Floyd wanted to test Pacquiao. Sonnen whooped Silva's ass for 5 rounds but silva still pulls out a submission after taking so much DAMAGE, the next day, Sonnen tested Positive for PED's, so which would you rather fight, a crackhead who doesnt feel pain, or a person that is not on any drugs. Pac is off the juice now or it just is not working anymore, he is starting to feel pain.
roger mayweather said "drugs or no drugs my nephew is good enough to beat pacquiao anyway" if they where that confident why didnt they take the fight at the time? because they werent really that confident
was manny on juice? maybe, maybe not, i dont know
floyd didnt want the fight before in my opinion, but now its manny & arum who dont want the fight
@HatmanTv floyd has said one thing and that's the random drug test, they Refused for two years and then agree. Also, Floyd actually called Manny out before the Marquez fight so the argument that floyd is calling him because of his poor performance doesnt hold weight. Just calling it as it is. Pacman never wanted and doesn't want it with Mayweather
well this whole scenario comes up when pac beats cotto and floyd came out of retirement just early on then accuse pac of steriods, this nonsense was create by floyd, now he calls out pac to fight in VEGAS yeah That's where HE LIVES! calling out a small dude to fight in his backyard.
Good vid bro, agree 100%. Mayweather didn't want any part of Pacquiao a year or so ago. Pacquiao looked outstanding beating Cotto, Clottey, Hatton and Margarito. And I think Floyd had doubts whether he could beat Manny. But now when Pacquiao's looked horrible in his last 2 fights Floyd's all of the sudden desperate to make the fight happen. I don't think the fight will ever happen now though. Bob Arum will be ruined if his cash cow gets beat. He'll do whatever he can to stop the fight happening
@HatmanTv like ur vids and opinion. Just to give u my piece, You didn't mention Pac's refusal to agree to the test or demand ridiculous penalties on coming over weight. Only to agree to it few years later..It's my opinion and subsequent events confirm that team Pacman never wanted the fight
What if this whole thing was a set up at an attempt to get Floyd in the ring. What if the last 2 performances along with the B.S. excuses now are a sacrifice to show Team Mayweather they are supposedly not confident and Pac has fell off when really he still got it. If that is true then Mayweather will run into a shock on fight night if it happens. OMG I hope that scenario is true. What a perfect calculated setup
I never heard of this blood test conspiracy theory before, intresting theory. I think Mayweather definitely is more confident now because of Pac's last 2 overall poor performances. I hate to call Pacquiao a coward but he clearly is ducking the fight now. Shit ain't looking to good for Pacquiao if he don't sign that line man.
pac/arum dont want it right now, coming off 2 bad performances their confidence is shot...& i speak about pac & arum like there one person, coz in all honesty with so much money at steak, arum calls the shots just as much as manny in my opinion....the great thing for floyd is he's 100% independent- something all fighters should aspire to be
@slideways100 I think I was actually one of the first to have that thought. That's why a lot of people like myself, wanted a neutral company to do the testing.
@TheRestlessMinds Yeah I knew it since Floyd first came out with this shit. That was the only problem with testing. Team Pac didn't want USADA to be involved. I know a lot of things that are going on behind the scenes in sport, also testing....and one thing it's for sure: I have zero trust in USADA.
Someone even made a video here on YT: Mayweather has a trap for Pacquiao
The thing is that building a temp stadium wouldnt particularly bring in more money. It would probably cost at least 15 mil to build it and the extra 26,000 plus seats that it would hold are not going to cover that cost. Also the gate from the ringside seats in the MGM will be the same as the temp stadium and your only relying on the outside seating revenue so from a business sense I dont think building a stadium would be profitable and I dont think Arum has any plans to negotiate. Just my view.
That is an great analysis of what is going on. If these two finally fight, I think it will be a boring fight. Mayweather will win in a very boring running and jabbing strategic fight.
good vid!
iamkiko24 1 month ago
Agree 100% with literally every point u make here. Along with the time that's passed, another reason I almost don't care if the fight happens now is that with every fight these two have I become more convinced Mayweather would do a job on Pacquiao. At one time I did edge towards Pacman (with the variety and sheer volume of punches it seemed inevitable that he would be able to catch Mayweather in a way that no fighter had ever done), but odd as this might seem, the turn for me happened during..
screwUtoob08 1 month ago
..his fight with Cotto. Cotto was well beaten once he allowed himself to be drawn into a brawl, until then he made a solid start behind a tight defence. It's pretty much a fact that Mayweather would be even more effective than Cotto both offensively and defensively AND for the full fight. Since then the seed has been planted in my mind that Mayweathers defensive/counter ability would be too much for pacquiao, and I've seen nothing yet to stop that seed from growin, quite the opposite infact.
screwUtoob08 1 month ago
in a few years time Pacquiao vs Mayweather will be "the greatest fight that never happened"
CoffeeBeatsTea 1 month ago
lol there are coming .. got some pure gimps on my video moaning about the picture i put on it lmao
apparently putting a pic of a woman on a sports video is negative haha i think he may be gay however
EuropeanBoxingNews 1 month ago
good analysis man. I think previously there might have been enough interest for a trilogy and plenty of money all around for both fighters. But after Pac's recent performances I think the interest won't be what it was ... at least it isn't for me.
etherjoe505 1 month ago
Well said. No fight, not even this one is worth the amount of bullshit and bickering this has caused.
bluegiant888 1 month ago
You make very good and valid points about this whole saga but i believe Bob Arum never wanted this fight. IMO ever since Floyd left Top Rank, Bob Arum has tried his hardest to destroy the mans career (mainly in the media) but has failed to do so. I reckon it's because Floyd is an independant boxer that has control of his own career. Imagine if every other fighter in Top Rank did what Floyd did...Arum wouldn't have any fighters to swindle millions off of LMAO!!! Pacquiao needs to smarten up fast.
M4UH50J 1 month ago
I don't think I have ever agreed with something so much lol took the words out of my mouth.
xDet3rmin4tionx 1 month ago
split of money, weight fight, roach said interview want drained 140 floyd, drug test, pacmans team sent email ask what penatly for postive test, can it be hid from public, pacman team interviews i seen online saying that certain things can be hid from blood hard 2 detect urine, they said micera,that a 1 jag a month good blood builder, roach said interview that you can easily hide hgh, human growth hormones, nevada would also take samples, samples always goes 2 impartial body as well
IRISHNK 1 month ago
Ok dude, watch Silva vs Sonnen then make another video about why Floyd wanted to test Pacquiao. Sonnen whooped Silva's ass for 5 rounds but silva still pulls out a submission after taking so much DAMAGE, the next day, Sonnen tested Positive for PED's, so which would you rather fight, a crackhead who doesnt feel pain, or a person that is not on any drugs. Pac is off the juice now or it just is not working anymore, he is starting to feel pain.
mstacks85 1 month ago
@mstacks85
u completely missed the point i made in the video
roger mayweather said "drugs or no drugs my nephew is good enough to beat pacquiao anyway" if they where that confident why didnt they take the fight at the time? because they werent really that confident
was manny on juice? maybe, maybe not, i dont know
floyd didnt want the fight before in my opinion, but now its manny & arum who dont want the fight
HatmanTV 1 month ago
Fuck this fight man
SamTheManWhoCanTwice 1 month ago
@HatmanTv floyd has said one thing and that's the random drug test, they Refused for two years and then agree. Also, Floyd actually called Manny out before the Marquez fight so the argument that floyd is calling him because of his poor performance doesnt hold weight. Just calling it as it is. Pacman never wanted and doesn't want it with Mayweather
DEMTSI 1 month ago
well this whole scenario comes up when pac beats cotto and floyd came out of retirement just early on then accuse pac of steriods, this nonsense was create by floyd, now he calls out pac to fight in VEGAS yeah That's where HE LIVES! calling out a small dude to fight in his backyard.
shildcastin 1 month ago
its all bob arum mate from start to end,this dosnt have much to do with the fighters,i was reading bob aruns reason for the longting on wbn
gcirc 1 month ago
Good vid bro, agree 100%. Mayweather didn't want any part of Pacquiao a year or so ago. Pacquiao looked outstanding beating Cotto, Clottey, Hatton and Margarito. And I think Floyd had doubts whether he could beat Manny. But now when Pacquiao's looked horrible in his last 2 fights Floyd's all of the sudden desperate to make the fight happen. I don't think the fight will ever happen now though. Bob Arum will be ruined if his cash cow gets beat. He'll do whatever he can to stop the fight happening
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@HatmanTv like ur vids and opinion. Just to give u my piece, You didn't mention Pac's refusal to agree to the test or demand ridiculous penalties on coming over weight. Only to agree to it few years later..It's my opinion and subsequent events confirm that team Pacman never wanted the fight
DEMTSI 1 month ago
That is exact same as what i think, good vid.
barmyarmy3 1 month ago
hardcore boxing fans could care less about the fight like myself
jakekiser17 1 month ago
What if this whole thing was a set up at an attempt to get Floyd in the ring. What if the last 2 performances along with the B.S. excuses now are a sacrifice to show Team Mayweather they are supposedly not confident and Pac has fell off when really he still got it. If that is true then Mayweather will run into a shock on fight night if it happens. OMG I hope that scenario is true. What a perfect calculated setup
slideways100 1 month ago
@slideways100
LOL thats what all the pacquiao fans are hoping, but i think theres more chance of aliens landing on the whitehouse lawn lol
HatmanTV 1 month ago
@HatmanTV LMFAO
EveryRecordCounts 1 month ago
@HatmanTV Great vid man, my thoughts exactly.
TheRestlessMinds 1 month ago
@slideways100 yea thats blind hope...your sounding likr SKip Bayless...never a good thing
ekingh22 1 month ago
@ekingh22 lol, yeah, anything thats sounds like ESPN in general is usually never a good thing
slideways100 1 month ago
I never heard of this blood test conspiracy theory before, intresting theory. I think Mayweather definitely is more confident now because of Pac's last 2 overall poor performances. I hate to call Pacquiao a coward but he clearly is ducking the fight now. Shit ain't looking to good for Pacquiao if he don't sign that line man.
slideways100 1 month ago
@slideways100
pac/arum dont want it right now, coming off 2 bad performances their confidence is shot...& i speak about pac & arum like there one person, coz in all honesty with so much money at steak, arum calls the shots just as much as manny in my opinion....the great thing for floyd is he's 100% independent- something all fighters should aspire to be
HatmanTV 1 month ago
@slideways100 I think I was actually one of the first to have that thought. That's why a lot of people like myself, wanted a neutral company to do the testing.
TheRestlessMinds 1 month ago
@TheRestlessMinds Yeah I knew it since Floyd first came out with this shit. That was the only problem with testing. Team Pac didn't want USADA to be involved. I know a lot of things that are going on behind the scenes in sport, also testing....and one thing it's for sure: I have zero trust in USADA.
Someone even made a video here on YT: Mayweather has a trap for Pacquiao
aveotint 1 month ago
This is what is wrong with boxing today. They should have already fought a year ago.
MrMJ6358 1 month ago
this fight will never happen no point in even fighting now fight is 3-4 years overdue..
DarthMuse 1 month ago
The thing is that building a temp stadium wouldnt particularly bring in more money. It would probably cost at least 15 mil to build it and the extra 26,000 plus seats that it would hold are not going to cover that cost. Also the gate from the ringside seats in the MGM will be the same as the temp stadium and your only relying on the outside seating revenue so from a business sense I dont think building a stadium would be profitable and I dont think Arum has any plans to negotiate. Just my view.
DazzaBellz 1 month ago
That is an great analysis of what is going on. If these two finally fight, I think it will be a boring fight. Mayweather will win in a very boring running and jabbing strategic fight.
normanykleung 1 month ago
great views bro. Good deep in depth discussion
rylojenk 1 month ago
FLOYD JR ... want pacman to slow down :)
zendo09 1 month ago
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serpakovski 1 month ago
its boring Gayweather wants none of Pacquiao
serpakovski 1 month ago