josef k- sorry for laughing

[FoolOfGods]

ROFL - sorry for laughing - but 'Sorry For Laughing' audio is screwed - fix or re-upload PLEASE!

[JohnnyTrotz]

reupload it you fuck.

[commanderfuent]

this guy sucks

[filtro6]

Where's the sound gone you anus?

[davsanthony]

RE-UPLOAD!

[jdivision91]

thought it was my computer at first, then i read these replies...anyhoo cool track it would've been

[nottombennett]

can somebody re-up this? i bet the audio didnt survive the updates

[cheezball19]

can't hear it, why am i the only one, is live?

[MrNeonkind]

soundtrack of my life

[DESTROYriaa]

fucking awesome band

[weatherboxlisp]

Awesome bass. This sounds a bit like Vic Godard's later stuff. Check that out too.

[bpan12]

Kafka and post-punk!! Yeah!!!!!

[ceira7]

Find it odd that Joy Division are regarded with total reverance while this generation of Scottish post-punk bands stay hidden away in a dark corner.

[Wilfslad]

@ceira7 it's a sad fact that music journalists are no better than any other kind, very lazy. So while in no way decrying Joy Division, the Sound of Young Scotland made a massive impression on a lot of us in those days that still lasts. Shame they're all not still active, or more active, at least.

[theMacvarish]

If they hadn't have broken up,(musical differences ?), Franz Ferdinands would have to say sorry for nicking, wholesale. Lubricate Your living Room, you know you want to.

[cullyvan]

Franz Ferdinands Daddies.

[BabysGotTheRabies]

Two of my favorite things - Josef K and Gak!

[bgbreakdown]

Hooray for the golden age of Scottish pop! Possibly my favorite era of all. And yeah for Franz Ferdinand, too.

[theclashmaster1991]

....everytime I heard that song, especialy the intro,................I feel like I'm driving my motorcycle with many obstacles on my way.

[ferguslamont]

Fuck Yeah !

[soulagent09]

i know...jeez someone tell me were i can get the original or most decent recording of this amazing song?

[ADAMUCHI]

@soulagent09

I have it on 7 inch vinyl, cover was shared with OJ Blue boy,

Ha! make me an offer ?

[djsundancekid]

you can find it in soulseek. search file: le disque du crepuscule

[stuartjcameron]

the 2006 reissue Entomology has it.

[staggers4367]

saw franz ferdinand,malcom ross and edwyne collins do this in acoustic version at t in the park 2009 was superb anyone got it get it on here please

[lovesGenet]

really funky dancey.Like this so much.thanks for Propaganda puttin some money in these gys pockets;Wasnt it originally done by Orange Juice? little confused.You recognize it immediately even w the jangly guit over funky bass

[onemorejoe]

Josef K, better known as the band pop music forgot... then went onto regret forgetting in light of approximately 20,000 bands robbing them blind.

[cullyvan]

At least 20,000. Well said.

[lovesGenet]

This is th e band Propaganda covered .I've always  read about 25 years ago. really funky bass. so glad i found them.

[2bathsheba21]

Love it! Knock out!

[Daka12s]

lovely so sensual =D!!!

Bravo

[groove68]

i stand coected - propaganda did cover josef k. wow, sue is different.

[jfv65]

Yes, it is different, isn't it?! I had to really listen twice to verify if i heard it correctly ;-)

Maybe it is because i heard the propaganda version first that i like it better. Or maybe it is the beauty of Claudia Brucken? ;-)

[chrisnoaro1]

i also far prefer propaganda's version though they're almost like different songs apart from the lyrics. i like both bands but am a much bigger fan of propaganda. claudia brucken's voice on that track is awesome! - and the arrangement!!

[jfv65]

i like the Propaganda version of this song much better...

[groove68]

is it the same song? think it's just the same title

[chrisnoaro1]

the lyrics are definitely the same but the chords are quite different

[staggers4367]

was watching t in the park on bbc and franz ferdinand,edwyn collins, malcom ross done an acoustic version of this thought it was superb

[Oscar301]

this is as poignant and great as anything the smiths ever done, why aren't Josef K more well known?

[JohnnyTrotz]

this rocks. one of my favorite tunes of them. never saw the video to it though.

[myclockisorange]

david weddell was such a groovy bass player in josef k. their music is class

[theclashmaster1991]

........kneading a shortbread dough infront of the camera?

[charleneO9]

hahaha

[chrisfranz]

that's TOTALY Green Slime from Nickleodeon! LMAO

[theclashmaster1991]

For me, the only important bands on the scottish music scene were the Josef K, Aztec Camera and Orange Juice,.......................

[RuNPr069]

nice music and cool vid

fink the guitar player needs a haircut tho lol

[tomelty]

Amazing, thanks.

[juliatheartist]

Cool as cucumbers!

[leodelorean85]

post punk¡¡

[jamierourketen]

postcard!

[otrebla58]

The best group of all time !!!!

[venomrock7]

Q BUENA CANCION

[Gozzillacia]

alway thought these guys should have swapped their approach with Orange Juice. Their label-mates on Postcard. Orange Juice were too desperately pop and these guys were too selfconscously poo-faced - now if it were the other way around, maybe they both would have done more than they actually did.

[Jamesbharris2]

But if Josef K had been and Orange Juice had been Josef K then all the case would have been is that the band we now know as Josef K would have been called Orange Juice. And vice versa. As such, surely both would have done exactly what the other one did anyway? I'm trying to follow your argument here.

[WLuzeeer]

does anyone of you guys know how to play this song on the guitar? its really hard for me to find out the chords and tabs on this one.

[huffymatron]

For 23 years I've only ever heard the wonderful Propaganda's cover of this... Now I finally get to hear the original! Thx for posting!

[Jamesbharris2]

This is acetastic. If you look closely, you can see Franz Kafka playing the Bez role.

[interpolluter29]

I can see where franz Ferdinand got their influences from. Nice choice, too!

[wizardspocket]

didn't this come out on postcard records?

[joshuajubilee]

Entomology was released only two years ago and I can't find it anywhere. :[

[fluorophoric]

It's on iTunes

[cutrim]

You can find it in Brighton, in a store in the south lanes :)

[YouWish8]

Josef K are an underrated glasgow band who deserve as much praise as orange juice got, being darker isnt a bad thing.

[fluorophoric]

I agree. They're truly great. Josef K is a dark reflection of Orange Juice, and that's not a tad bit bad.

[anasfk]

much as I would (as a weegie myself) love them to be from Glasgow they're from Edinburgh.

[bobmorrice]

correct about everything apart from them being from glasgow-they're from auld reekie

[TheUbeRn00bPrince]

i'm pretty sure at least one of them is from Montrose.

[moorheninthesawdust]

@YouWish8 arn't they from edinburgh??

[woofusdoofus]

@YouWish8 Orange Juice were from the Glasgow area but Josef K were an Edinburgh band actually.

[rockalbatross]

is this top of the pops?

[Ironfizzle]

I wont debate anymore because we clearly see things differently. Just note I have read countless articles and books on the genre. I base all my musical ideals upon Pere Ubu, and I own over five thousand albums a good portion of which are from said genre. I pretty much consider myself a self taught expert on the genre. I admit that you are knowledable, but at this point its just semantics and we are basically arguing nothing in its own right.

[samuraiinCfede]

Yeah I guess you're right...at the end, we all have different views on the subject and there is no way of knowing the truth. You make up your own definition based on the very few resources out there of the subject and then you have to fill the blank spots yourself.

[samuraiinCfede]

Well, I've got to admit I've been into the genre since 2006 and I'm actully 16 but I'm pretty interested in the subject...I do appreciate your knowledge as you seem you own many of albums of the post-punk era but It's really hard for me to get a hold of albums or material of the era....I also wished I could interview and get to meet bands of the era so I could get to know the truth about this info.

Well anyways, no grudges :)

[samuraiinCfede]

I do live in Colombia...so it's pretty hard, barely anyone knows about the subject, probably the only post-punk popular right now is Joy Division because of Control and hipsters that have recently discovered it.

I mean, post-punk arrived only 10 years ago through some original manchester casettes of Joy Division that spread through this region here in Colombia called Cali...don't know the whole story

[Ironfizzle]

Nice man! Its the best genre to be into! There is nothing like the spirit of the music. As soon as I organize my music I wouldnt mind sharring it.

We were just born at the wrong time I say. Im only 22 myself.

[Janezlk]

agree there lads. a sad thing its gone now and all we have left is graves, records and petty imitators.

[tomcatfoxy]

What the hell is NoWave anyway? Sounds like another term cooined by some music journo.

[Ironfizzle]

No-Wave was a type of underground art based music primarily out of NYC. No-Wave is not dissimilar to noise, and was influenced more by art and jazz. It applied the same DYI free spirit that defined Post-Punk and also the punk era. Notable No-Wave bands are DNA, Teenage Jesus & the Jerks, and The Residents. Many modern day Indie bands were inspired by No-Wave including Blonde Redhead who coined their name after a DNA track.

[ihatetheeaglesalot]

Correct in everything except calling it DYI instead of DIY

[MassimoConnolli]

think of it this way - nowave was to new-wave what norave is to nu-rave

[benno27]

I think all these different genres are pathetic, all you really need is rock, pop, classical and a few other basics. Anyway Josef K is brill

[Ironfizzle]

respective sub genre as well.

[Ironfizzle]

Whoops double post.

[Ironfizzle]

As I stated earlier. The term New Wave is often used by Americans to describe synth music, or often linked to New Romantics esque pop music. New Wave is a much broader term than you are thinking, it could be used to describe a multitude of music that in essence arent entirely one specific thing. Its the same as Post-Punk. Post-Punk is the mother of all sub genres after punk, because they all used the same ideals and ran in different directions.

[Ironfizzle]

As I stated earlier. The term New Wave is often used by Americans to describe synth music, or often linked to New Romantics esque pop music. New Wave is a much broader term than you are thinking, it could be used to describe a multitude of music that in essence arent entirely one specific thing. Its the same as Post-Punk. Post-Punk is the mother of all sub genres after punk, because they all used the same ideals and ran in different directions.

[Ironfizzle]

3 sub genres rather*

[Ironfizzle]

Another point. Post-Punk was more of an experimental ideal, as opposed to a distinct sound. Throbbing Gristle (an early industral group) was just as Post-Punk as Mission of Burma or say Josef K. New wave, No Wave, and New Romantics are 2 sub genres of Post-Punk as were early industrial acts (although now industrial has come of its own, and has its own sub genres now). Post-Punk is as its name applies, its the free spirited cousin of the original punk ideal. Debating further is just semantics.

[Ironfizzle]

Also New Wave is mostly an American Term to describe much of the music that was coming out of the UK from the late 70s through out the 80s. I.E. a sub genre of Post-Punk.

[Ironfizzle]

Also fucksticks that say "Why classify this? Why put a label on such and such" are generally pretentious cunts that I wouldnt waste my time with. I wouldnt let it bother you. I mean how can you properly describe something without using the terms that define the subject that is being discussed?

[pattismithsonian]

kafka would be proud

[jamierourketen]

music just evolves from the past orange juice and josef k both used elements of velvet underground and thats all good! ferdinand etc , keep the music rolling along!

[gungrave515]

i love this song.

anybody know where you can get the bass and guitar tabs?

[bilbosilbo]

The propaganda version of this is 10 times better

[gabonage]

NO.

[frenchkids]

I have recently got into josef k, and i heard a lot of their live recordings, it's timeless, but what i do think is crap is when people slag of interpol and the strokes for suposedly having this agenda where they are ripping josef .k. Interpol have over the last five years produced some of the most thrilling post punk and given the genre a sense of rejunvenation.

[puppeteers420]

i really dont know why everyone is sayin screw franz ferdinand and interpol. cause they were heavily influenced by original post punk. they arent trying to be like them, their sound is just based off of the original

[absens81]

i hate the "new" bands (interpol, franz, editors, she wants revenge, etc.)is much better to keep listening the original new wave bands

[puppeteers420]

first off, those bands you listened too are post punk revival, not new wave revival. and second, this band isnt new wave, they are post punk

[samuraiinCfede]

why does everyone confuse new wave with post-punk...they're not the same thing! and I also hate the ones who say "oh, they can't fit into a genre...you're an idiot for calling them post-punk blablablabla..."

So what if I do? I do have the need to classify my music and if you got any problems with that, you can shove it!

[puppeteers420]

totally right samuraiincfede, i feel the same way. and i hate when people think post punk and new wave are the same, totally pisses me off

[joanofmarc]

It's hard to deny that there's a lot of crossover though. The early Devo stuff and Talking Heads being a good example.

[samuraiinCfede]

Yeah, well...I see some Devo songs on their debut as new wave and others more post-punk (ex. the new-waveness of Jocko Homo contrasting to the post-punk version of Satisfaction). But you do have a point joanofmarc, Devo and Talking Heads mix both genres at times to the point it's impossible talking of both...but some people do confuse the work of JD with new wave...sigh

[Ironfizzle]

New Wave is a sub genre of Post-Punk. So while they may not be the exact same thing by definition, New wave was born from the Post-Punk era/spirit.

[samuraiinCfede]

New Wave was even earlier than post-punk, it goes back to 1976...so that would be pretty much impossible

[Ironfizzle]

I think you are just a slight bit confused on your terminology. Maybe you are placing proto punk groups like Roxy Music into the New Wave genre or something, but New Wave didnt properly come about till the late 70s. I think you should read "Rip it up and Start again" and "From the Velvets to the Voidoids" to fully understand.

[samuraiinCfede]

First of all, New Wave and Post-punk derivated from Punk...yes I have read fragments from Reynold's Book and he puts it in a very confusing way...he puts Post-punk and New Wave as the same thing when Post-punk was absoultely more different and experimental than commercial New Wave.

And late seventies? New Wave is not only primitive synth-punk rock, what about The Strangler's album back in the 76? What about X-Offender back in the 76?, Talking Heads 77', XTC's 3D EP (1977 and which I own)

[samuraiinCfede]

The term was used as early as 1977, I don't know if you're referring to New Wave being generated back in 79 because it did generate earlier...and it was used by the head of Sire Records so he could commercialize bands like Blondie in an easier way and that was back in the 76'. Post-punk generated after year zero (though there are exceptions with Pere Ubu, Wire and The Fall) in the 78', with Siouxsie, PiL, Magazine, Wire, Pere Ubu, The Fall, The Cure, Cabaret Voltaire and etc.

[Ironfizzle]

What you listed is just an example of what YOU personally consider to be New Wave. Many people consider Talking Heads, and XTC's early work to be punk, but that doesnt mean that it is. The term New Wave didnt even exist in 76, and generally the first band to be considered Post-Punk is Public Image ltd. Not saying that the sound and ideals didnt exist before then/them, but it simply wasnt definable. Also I think you are taking the terms too literally.

[samuraiinCfede]

Well...the post-punk term didn't even exist by the time PiL's debut album and the same as New Wave...it just begun to be used on the late 70's and sometime it crossed with New Wave and some bands as Joy Division or Orange Juice had been described as New Wave rather than Post-punk, but as time passes the two terms have been separated and defined even more and more...

[Ironfizzle]

New Wave by example that you have listed is just a term coined by a record president to market something. Its not so definable as you are thinking that it is. There is no distinct sound to describe Post-Punk as there is no distinct sound to describe New Wave. They are broad terms. Cabaret Voltaire is Post-Punk as is Talking Heads. but they are also Industrial, and New York Punk respectively. These are two examples of bands that sound entirely different, yet fit into the same genre, and their..

[Ironfizzle]

respective sub genre as well.

[scotchqueen]

I love this band-what show was this please?

[omicky72]

just met the bass guitarist in gibraltar,TOPMAN!!

[xn0153x]

not only franz, interpol... but also shit like the strokes...

[ChicChicken]

Greeeat.

The originals are always the best - no matter how many new bands try to imitate them.

[samuraiinCfede]

True that, if people only knew...there should be a mass campaign so everybody knows who the original post-punks were hehehe

[hersilentface]

"sorrrrrryyyy for laughing, there's too much happening" classic lyric. yeah Franz Ferdinand are heavily influenced by them with the lyrical style and jangly guitars but Josef K will remain the original and better sounding band.

[fastrnb]

Funny, to me this is more what Interpol is trying to do than Franz Ferdinand. Both remain second rate copies, but Interpol was the first "sound alike" which came to mind.

[madderstill25]

screw franz ferdinand and thanks for posting this

[postpunk1]

Thanks for posting!

[heartslad]

Every coont rip's everything it's been going on for years who cares ........... Mega tune !!! ...

[BobMonkfish]

Franz Ferdinand have ripped them off big time.

[josefkintley]

ist just like me

josef kintley

how sad

D:

but they are very good

[PatrickHighlander]

Someone know how can i get the lyrics from Josef k songs ? I can't found it on internet...

And finaly, JOSEF K RULEZ !!!!

[Ironfizzle]

One might be surprised that original groups like Belle and Sebastian were influenced by Josef K. If you have Franz in mind with such a statement one may agree, but it is a general statement as a whole in regards to everything that is biting on the Post-Punk style nowadays. You gotta start somewhere, and what better place than Josef K?

[Ironfizzle]

I dont think that those who claim to be inspired by Josef K are superficial and empty as a whole, but rather that music in general has taken a turn for the worse. Mainstream wise we could argue that things have lost a deeper meaning and originality is lacking, but many inspired by Josef are there for the right reasons.

[tombwithaview]

When you see this you realise how empty and superficial all the bands that claim to be 'inspired' by it are. I've got nothing against these bands but they seem pretty gutless. I'm totally blown away by this.

[kermankalle]

i agree.

[Ironfizzle]

I adore Josef, but I cant deny the fact that the bassist looks a awful lot like John Mark Karr.

[Tony63efc]

Thanks for this, haven't heard it for 20 years

[bamff24]

Ae last I've seen Josef K's only video - the director should be shot!

[TheMorMor]

ninja band indeed

[likac92009]

if there weren't franz ferdinand, people would forget about Josef K. Franz always mention Josef K as their great inspiration.

[MeesterFrankie]

Obviously fantastic - but this version misses off my fave bit when the second guitar comes in at the end

[zoffo]

Josef K were the best. Paul Haig went on to do some great solo stuff too, worth checking out his Rhythm of Life stuff but its totally different from this though.

[wibeseeker]

that could be the geezer from Franz Ferdinand on guitar. FF ripped this off big time!

[petsounds19]

franz ferdinand sucks so bad. they sound like house music with guitars.

[BobMonkfish]

"FF ripped this off big time!" You know I've written the same thing in the same words - how weird is that? FF also ripped off Gang of Four.

[conventionalspoon]

that was pretty much my first thought when i recently heard josef k for the first time, although i wouldn't say "ripped off" exactly - alex kapranos is quite an inventive songwriter and there's enough about franz ferdinand to distinguish them from even their more obvious influences.

[BobMonkfish]

I wouldn't say FF have new ideas, but that they're good at working with old ones. Unlike some of their contemporaries. Listening to modern stuff on the radio is like a who's who of stuff going back even before I was born.

[btnikk]

GOOD GOOD GOOD !!! Josef K is one of my Top 5 Bands!!!!! Thanks for putting this up!!! - from Seoul, Korea

[mooker5600]

I found it hard too but have two cd's just keep looking.their albums were reissued 3-4 years ago.

[beddykatp]

I'm having a hard time finding there stuff. Amazing band.

[zebramag]

Seek out their albums, fantastic band!

[realshocks]

Strange video, amazing band. Thanks.

[arturob]

i 've just discovered images of Orange Juice, so i try Josef K and... i'm here : too cool !