UNdisputable evidence that Jesus is GOD - prove me wrong. (Part 4)

[EliYahweh]

DID HE DIE OR NOT?

If he DIED then he is NOT Eternal, and therefore Eternal is a lie.

If he did NOT DIE, then only his flesh died, therefore only his flesh was resurrected, and therefore only flesh is justified and heir to the kingdom.

But we know that flesh cannot inherit the kingdom. The Son cannot be the Father; if the Son is in fact also the Father, then mankind cannot be saved because the Father *cannot* die.

[doctorh2005]

@EliYahweh

/// DID HE DIE OR NOT? If he DIED then he is NOT Eternal ///

Scripture says Christ, who is both God AND man, was "put to death IN THE FLESH" (see 1 PETER 3:18) - meaning, Christ, in His HUMAN nature, died - but not His divine nature - which is eternal.

/// The Son cannot be the Father ///

Christians do not teach that He is the Father.

Jesus Christ is "God THE SON", and is distinct from God the FATHER and God the HOLY SPIRIT.

[EliYahweh]

@doctorh2005

If ONLY his flesh died, then ONLY his flesh was resurrected and therefore ONLY FLESH is heir to the kingdom and the promise.

[EliYahweh]

The Father and the Son are separate personalities, who are AKHAD.

Another problem you have is the term G-d itself. If you are going to "PROVE" things, then define via ACTUAL TERMS and their ACTUAL MEANINGS, in CONTEXT.

"G-d" is of pagan origin, and does NOT apply to the identity or person of Yahweh, nor Yahshua his son. The correct terms are Eloahi, Elohim and Elah.

"G-d" is an inaccurate SUBSTITUTE. You cannot *prove* truth by starting off with failed terminology.

[doctorh2005]

@EliYahweh

/// The Father and the Son are separate personalities ///

It would be more accurate to say, along with the that the Father and Son are NOT "separate" personalities.... but rather "distinct" Persons - for if the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were "separate".... we would be worshipping "3 GODS" - but we worship ONE God, in three distinct Persons.

[doctorh2005]

@EliYahweh

/// "G-d" is of pagan origin ///

Nah.... God is "eternal" and has no origin at all. He simply "is".

/// The correct terms are Eloahi, Elohim and Elah. ///

He is also "Kurios" (Lord) and "Theos" (God) - terms which God the Holy Spirit inspired the New Testament writers to write.

We interpret the Old Testment (the Tanakh/Torah) in light of the New Testament.

The New Testament is a brighter light than the Old.

[doctorh2005]

@EliYahweh

/// If ONLY his flesh died, then ONLY his flesh was resurrected and therefore ONLY FLESH is heir to the kingdom and the promise. ///

You misunderstood what I said - Jesus has TWO natures - fully God... and fully MAN.

In his "humanity", Christ had a real human body, and also had a REAL human "soul".

It was His human body and soul that died - His "human" nature, not His "divine" nature.

[Jamesdt85]

For Jehovah is a jealous God, exacting exclusive devotion. Col 1;15,16.. Jesus was created and the image of the Almighty God. If jesus is god, why didn't he just pray himself? Oh, God,, can't die;) Jesus did and was resurrected by God.

[doctorh2005]

@Jamesdt85

/// Col 1;15,16.. Jesus was created and the image of the Almighty God. If jesus is god, why didn't he just pray himself? Oh, God,, can't die;) Jesus did and was resurrected by God ///

Good question - this is where the Biblical teaching of the "Trinity" comes in - Jesus (who is God the Son) wasnt praying to Himself - He was praying to God the Father.... thats why He prayed "Our Father"

[855842]

@doctorh2005 WHY DONT YOU WORSHIP THE FATHER?? HE KNOWS EVERYTHING HE IS FULLY GOD AND KNOWS ALL THINGS!! JESUS NEVER SAID I AM YOUR GOD OR WORSHIP ME YET HE SAID Luke 11:1

Jesus’ Teaching on Prayer 1 One day Jesus was praying in a certain place. When he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples.” 2 He said to them, “When you pray, say: “‘Father

jesus(god) praying to another god?..jesus said call out to the FATHER not the son

[doctorh2005]

@855842

/// JESUS IS NOT ALL KNOWING LIKE HIS FATHER...

Yes He is - in His DIVINE nature.

However, in His HUMAN nature, He has condescended to know "limited" things.

/// WORSHIP THE FATHER NOT JESUS! ///

Hebrews 1:6 says "And again, when He brings the Firstborn (Jesus) into the world, He says, "Let all God's angels WORSHIP Him."

[855842]

@doctorh2005 BUT DOES THE FATHER HAVE ANY LIMITS?? NO!! THE FATHER IS ALL KNOWING ALL POWERFULL ALL WISE...JESUS IS JUST A MESSENGER HE IS SON OF MARY NOT SON BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD...HOW DARE YOU SAY GOD GIVES BEGETS A SON...ARE YOU ALSO SAYING MARY GIVES BIRTH TO GODS? THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS AFTER JESUS!

[855842]

@doctorh2005 EVEN JESUS SAID WHEN YOU PRAY YOU PRAY TO THE FATHER...LUKE 11:1 One day he was praying in a certain place. When he finished, one of his disciples said, "Master, teach us to pray just as John taught his disciples." 2-4So he said, "When you pray, say, FATHER,Reveal who you are. Set the world right. Keep us alive with three square meals. Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.

 Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil."

DID JESUS SAY, SAY JESUS NO!!

[doctorh2005]

@855842

/// JESUS SAID WHEN YOU PRAY YOU PRAY TO THE FATHER ///

Again, that does not prove Jesus is not God.

That actually proves whats known as "the ECONOMY" of the divine Trinity - the fact that the Father is the 1st Person in the GodHead (1st in "functional" authority), the Son is the 2nd, the Holy Spirit is the 3rd.

This "ranking" is a ranking of FUNCTION / ROLE only - not a ranking of ESSENCE / BEING (they are each fully and equally God in omnipotence, omnicience and omnipresence.)

[theocratickingdom30]

Good video. Glad to see you back making vids.