The regimental march of the King's Own Scottish Borderers.
I think you'll find it's a song dedicated to the Scottish Border Reivers. Eskdale and Liddesdale, Ettrick and Teviotdale. The Wild Border Men who preyed on English and Lowland Scots alike - the Borderers suffered a fate worse than the Highlanders (who the Reivers thought of as Irish - not Scots. The Protestant Scots-Irish of the USA are descendents of the Border Reivers.
Border Reivers followed no religion,neither did they follow any monarch.Reivers followed one code,that being loyalty to family and friends and everyone else was fair game.Thats why families could put 3000 men in the saddle when needed.They were experts at playing each side against each other and reiving only came to a halt at the union of the crowns when they were hunted down like animals and were either hung or deported.The term "Jethart justice" comes in at this point.
Re Linn, I thought most of Scotland' land is still owned Norman blood, the borders were nearly entirely Norman; I know my ancestors were Porteouses...The Stewarts are Gaelic, I don't remember in my history books at school, stories of border land being seized by Catholics? And honestly no chance...also clans in the borders?
The Jacobites did not oppress the coventers. The coventers oppressed the Catholics. Get it right. The Presbyterian "Reign of Terror" is a well known part of Scottish history. However, The presbyterians and Catholics of the north did unite to fight against the crown who was imposting their anglican religion on the Scots. The declaration of the national covenant of scotland opposed a scottish king of great britain successfully.
@rbmMan2 and her husband the Presbyterian regime was restored in Scotland and in turn the non-juring Episcopalians were then oppressed. each side were as bad as each other. In Ireland and England the Jacobites were synomonous with Catholicism but not so in Scotland. Catholics came out yes, but the bulk of the Scottish Jacobites were Episcopalians and came out despite the Pretenders Catholicism - not because of it.
I cannot think of a single battle fought on Scottish soil without Scots on both sides. I am convinced that if the Scottish people had been united, there was nothing England could have done to conquer their country.
The chances of men from Eskdale, Ettrick and Teviotdale marching together without some bloody feuding going on between them would be wellneigh impossible! All these groups were reiving territories of the others on an almost daily basis, I doubt they would have banded together for any Queen or any "Scottish" glory .
@scottthedawg Aye,ya right.Reivers lived by the code family and freends 1st,efta that anyone was fair game,irrelevant which side o the border they lived on.A bit like the clan system in the Highlands.
Piper Laidlaw played this air as the regimental march,when he led the 7th battallion KOSB over the top at Loos and when in view of the enemy lines,changed the tune to the regimental charge"The Standard on the Braes of Mar".
What puzzles me is,why a regiment that was raised to protect Edinburgh from the jacobite forces of James 2nd would have an outright jacobite tune as the regimental charge! .Did this happen wi other regiments ? Did pipers play what they wanted? I would love to know!
@heartofthereiver : to answer, I played what ever came to mind in Iraq, a 6/8 or 2/4 march mostly and a few catchy Irish tunes (I know, god forbid), my dad said the one time he played into action in Korea he "ran" across a field then had to lie down behind a tree for cover and was able to make "bagpipe noises" whilst on the ground ( I asked him what tunes he played ha ha). I'm off to Afghanistan soon w/ the pipes. Remember this sound ? yup, someone is going to die!!!!
@pipes0987 Cheers for that.I wondered you know,it must be hard trying to concentrate playing the pipes when the bullets are flying all around.Piper Laidlaw did this and although wounded,hobbled back to his own lines, after the position was taken.For this he was awarded the V.C. Big respect to the man !
When you head out to that theatre of war,keep ya powder and ya pipes dry and ya heed doon,best o luck pal.
i've just started playing bodhran and i've gathered from information on the internet that you should be using your elbow and hand not the wrist to create the correct movement, i'm not usually one to get hung up on "the proper way" but the corries wrists in this video seem to be doing a lot of the work, is what i've read bollocks? the corries can't be wrong..... or is it a visual allusion? haha
Those damn things - the scourge of the folk clubs. I would have every bodhran smashed and burnt. The man who invented them should do the Saddam Swing!
@ kristinelawrie :The blue bonneets are over the border because it's a song about price Charlie of Scotland and his blue bonnet wearing troops moving into england during the Jacobite rebellion.
What rebellion? How can you rebel when you fight for the rightful king? The English government ursurped the throne and gave it away to william of orange.
@OldSarge111 Aye you are getting Blue bonnets over the Border mixed up wi The Bonnets Blue.The tune Blue Bonnets etc come about after the regiment were raised by Earl of Leven in 1869 to defend Edinburgh against the jacobite forces of James 2nd.The tune was used as the regimental march and in 1820 the Shirra wrote the words,which further strengthens the Border connection.
No, I said life under a dictatorship is always worse than life under a democracy. You want to live in a dictatorship?? Go live in Zimbabwe and THEN tell me how things are so much better
Instead of reasoning an arguement you resort to rudeness, which just suggests to me you don't actually have one, plus your grasp of history seems a little shaky
I love this song, but it is NOT a pro-Jacobite anthem, it's a British Army march written by the very pro-Hanovarian Sir Walter Scott
the jacobite cause showed that the clans could unit under the one banner, through out our history we have fought among ourselves until it came to the defence of our country, that proves that scotland is one of the most patriotic countries in the world. No matter what,the patriots of this country will do anything and lay down there lives for the land they love!
@UrFavWorstNightmare Except you leave out a few facts: Very few Clans turned out for the '45 rebellion, there were far more Scottish troops fighting against the jacobites than for them. And the war was not between Scotland and England, Charles Edward Stuart repeatedly stated that he wanted the British throne, not just the Scottish one. Oh and this song is about an earlier period in history and has nothing to do with the Jacobite cause.
@Scotsgit Im not sure i agree with you. They know now that it was about 47% clans and the rest was made up from lowlanders, french and irish. I would agree however that there were Scots fighting for the Hanovarians.
Can you tell me what book you read this in or supply the proof that more Scots fought against The Jacobites?
Your right about the song being about an earlier time but the satatement about more Scots on Brit side is pure Propaganda. now if you can prove it I will eat my ain bunnet, but please till then dini buy into the unionst crap
@wijse Yes theJacobites were the Catholics who oppressed, tortured and took away the lands of Covenanters, no surprise their descendants wouldn't fight for the Jacobite cause, but rather against it. And several James Stewarts were downright bloodthirsty in their treatment of the Border Clans, you can't expect help from them a few generations later as if they would have forgotten.
@UrFavWorstNightmare Perhaps that's a factor in what makes Scottish men so sexy; from my reading (more extensive than my real travels) & limited travels to ten countries, I've seen NO equal to Scottish men
@UrFavWorstNightmare I'm afraid thats just nonsense. The Highland clans fought on both sides at Culloden. There were Jacobite clans and Hanoverian clans. The Jacobite cause incidentally had nothing to do with the defence of our country, it was a fight over who would rule britain from London.
@ColdMattyCross And this song has nothing to do with the Jacobites anyway. It is taken from a Scott novel set in the mid 16thC and the song actually is about Borderers going over the border into England in the name of the Scottish Queen! They seem in this video to have changed it to King for some unknown reason!
I read all the Little House on the Prairie books and I seem to remember having read these same lyrics in the book. Don't know how many of you are Laura Ingalls Wilder fans...but I happen to know that her ancestry was traced back to Scotland. I remember that this was a tune that Laura's Pa had played on his fiddle to entertain them over the Long Winter. Now I know how the song goes!!! :D
What the hell has this got to do with Ireland? You Americans know fuck all and don't know the difference between Scots and Irish. Lets not pretend here, when you say Irish you mean Roman Catholic. Its got nothing to do with being Irish
Actually happygael,that is only partly correct. There are two main types, The Irish (Uillean or Elbow) and the Scottish (Great Highland or Small Border) The Uillean pipes are pumped with the elbow ,the bag spring loaded ,and in the great Highland Bagpipes the bag is blown by the chanter as the pipes are played. The Small Border or Parlour pipes have a bag that is similar in concept to the Uillean pipes but is strapped to the forearm.
Doogy or is it doggy? The pipes came from the middle east do not claim them as a pictish invention. As far as pipe bands go tYou have been looking in all the wrong places for Irish pipe bands. As far as the slur about my id I am more man than you could ever hope to be. I am American of Immigrant Irish parents I am proud of my heritage and my American citizenship.Irish and Scots both are gaelic tribes. the difference between Irish and Scottish Pipes are the amount of drones on the instrument.
In America you may have Irish pipe bands playing scottish bagpipes and tunes and dressed in highland scots kit as you drink green beer and watch the parade. But to actual Scots, Ulster Scots and the Irish the whole thing is rediculously ignorant.
i think what he (she?) is trying to say is that americans can't seem to tell the difference between scots and irish!!
the pipes are scottish, not irish, for example. the only "traditional irish" marching bands i've ever seen march with flutes, bowler hats and orange sashes, and there's nothing quaint or twee about them.
"bowler hats and orange sashes, and there's nothing quaint or twee about them"........Well, old boy,..that's a matter of opinion ;-). ......and before you say it, i will....
Some of us Americans can tell the difference between Irish and Scotsmen.
Some of us can trace our heritage back to loosing our titles land and even our correct names to the abuses of the English against Scotsmen and our clans.
My family lost everything and had to run to America from Scotland for refusing to bow to King Willie, or the German usupers who hold the crown today.
If you really want to identify with Scottish people - REAL Scottish people and not the ridiculous Hollywood masturbatory fantasy of Scottish people - you need to know that heritage is found in people, not movies or books. Let it go, we Scots don't hate the English any more!
I love this song, but it was written a very pro-Hanoverian lackey (read Sir Walter Scott's bio).
For the record, it's a damn good thing thing the Jacobites lost, a restored Stewart monarchy would have been a disaster.
No - a Stewart victory with French help would have drawn Britain into the colonial wars of the era. What would have happened a few years later, when the French Revolution started...?
The Stewarts were autocrats, just like Louis XIV, just like Tsar Nickolas, just like Charles I, for that matter. Political stabilty came out of the constitutional monarchy of the Hanover line - much as i HATE to admit it.
Slavery was abolished by the Hanovers, rape and murder was always the highland way of life!
Ok 1st of all who said ANYTHING about the bagpipes. Does this clip contain pipes.... rewatched it... nope.
This is a song of the Scottish Borders, has NOTHING to do with IRISH or IRISH AMERICANS!
Furthermore, the KOSB who used this tune as a regimental march are well known in Northern Ireland, and were quite hated by Irish Nationalists. I know, as I was there.
As a Scottsman,I can only say that this tune gets the blood moving and sets the feet to tapping. You can see the highland men marching off to close with the foe! All Scotts need to take this history to heart and keep it with them as they work towards a bright and independent future. Alba gu brath!
Wee bit wrong about the Highlanders...Blue Bonnets is a Lowland tune, all the family names are Border and Dumfriesshire. This is the regimental Quick March of the gone, but never forgotten, The Kings Own Scottish Borderers.
Did some more research and you were spot on. Written by Sir Walter Scott about the borderers and how they were the first line of defense against the English. I was confusing it with the Blue Bonnets for Charlie. Confusing at times but nonetheless fascinating and it makes your pulse just a wee bit faster doesn't it? Thanks again.
jinky1888...thats a strong statement!! I like the song alot but I wouldn't march to my death listening to it. If I had to march to my death I'd choose to listen to Motorheads 'March or Die'. But I'd rather have a nice stroll than march to my death, even skipping to my death would be prefferable!! LOL :o)
Not Hielanders. This was about lowlanders wha fought for Scotland. We might want to remember that William Wallace and good King Robert were both lowlanders. So was Sir James Lord of Douglas who often led his lowland men "over the borders". All the names in the song are lowland names.
It makes me sad (WAY beyond sad) that it was used by Borderers. I'm sorry but what a tragedy that so many laid down their lives for tyrants and murderers.
Indeed! Armstrongs and Scotts alone could field 3000 lancers apiece at 24 hrs notice. The original refers to Mary Queen of Scots - not a king - which would date it during 1500s. Much earlier - Wallace (Welshman) was descended from a salopian family of welsh refugees when shropshire was annexed by England - Bruce was lowland but half Gael (on his mother's side) half Norman or Flemish, and Gaelic speaker - Douglas itself is a Gaelic name although the family settled in the lowlands.
The bodhrán was used during the Irish rebellion of 1603, by the Irish forces, as a war drum, or battle drum. The use of the drum was to provide a cadence for the pipers and warriors to keep to, as well as announce the arrival of the army. This leads some to think that the bodhrán was derived from an old Celtic war drum
The origins of the drum are various, as Tweej hints at, but the widely known origin is its part in religious processions at the start of the 20th century.
The first use of the drum in folk music came around the late 40's/early 50's with Seamus O'Raida and The Chieftains.
Since then the Bodhrán has gone through a massive development and growth process with the introduction of modern playing styles (Top-End, Neo-Bodhrán etc) and the introduction of new tuning systems and construction techniques.
hail the jacobites.
MrJacobite123 2 months ago
Teviotdale is the best!!!
Piper1514 3 months ago
Just beautiful! Respect
WarrenZevonAddict 9 months ago
The regimental march of the King's Own Scottish Borderers.
I think you'll find it's a song dedicated to the Scottish Border Reivers. Eskdale and Liddesdale, Ettrick and Teviotdale. The Wild Border Men who preyed on English and Lowland Scots alike - the Borderers suffered a fate worse than the Highlanders (who the Reivers thought of as Irish - not Scots. The Protestant Scots-Irish of the USA are descendents of the Border Reivers.
25Busterdog 11 months ago
@25Busterdog
Border Reivers followed no religion,neither did they follow any monarch.Reivers followed one code,that being loyalty to family and friends and everyone else was fair game.Thats why families could put 3000 men in the saddle when needed.They were experts at playing each side against each other and reiving only came to a halt at the union of the crowns when they were hunted down like animals and were either hung or deported.The term "Jethart justice" comes in at this point.
heartofthereiver 11 months ago 2
I hope you're going to approve my comments, because it was a bit of a waste of time to write them, if you're not going to.
robsargent4 11 months ago
Re Linn, I thought most of Scotland' land is still owned Norman blood, the borders were nearly entirely Norman; I know my ancestors were Porteouses...The Stewarts are Gaelic, I don't remember in my history books at school, stories of border land being seized by Catholics? And honestly no chance...also clans in the borders?
Stvmulligan 1 year ago
The Jacobites did not oppress the coventers. The coventers oppressed the Catholics. Get it right. The Presbyterian "Reign of Terror" is a well known part of Scottish history. However, The presbyterians and Catholics of the north did unite to fight against the crown who was imposting their anglican religion on the Scots. The declaration of the national covenant of scotland opposed a scottish king of great britain successfully.
rbmMan2 1 year ago
@rbmMan2 and her husband the Presbyterian regime was restored in Scotland and in turn the non-juring Episcopalians were then oppressed. each side were as bad as each other. In Ireland and England the Jacobites were synomonous with Catholicism but not so in Scotland. Catholics came out yes, but the bulk of the Scottish Jacobites were Episcopalians and came out despite the Pretenders Catholicism - not because of it.
gaconnochie 6 months ago
yeah we must thank bonnie prince charlie for buggering it all up!
frettish 1 year ago
I cannot think of a single battle fought on Scottish soil without Scots on both sides. I am convinced that if the Scottish people had been united, there was nothing England could have done to conquer their country.
uptonsavoie 1 year ago 3
The chances of men from Eskdale, Ettrick and Teviotdale marching together without some bloody feuding going on between them would be wellneigh impossible! All these groups were reiving territories of the others on an almost daily basis, I doubt they would have banded together for any Queen or any "Scottish" glory .
scottthedawg 1 year ago
@scottthedawg Aye,ya right.Reivers lived by the code family and freends 1st,efta that anyone was fair game,irrelevant which side o the border they lived on.A bit like the clan system in the Highlands.
heartofthereiver 1 year ago 2
God this talented duo reminds me why i am so proud to have the blood i do! LONG LIVE SCOTLAND THE LAND OF THE BRAVE AND THE TRUE
SuperPhaq 1 year ago 2
as long as a hunnerd of us remain alive
cptmaad 1 year ago 2
@cptmaad the declaration of arbroth
boabmax 1 year ago
Thanks to recent DNA research, many of the true Stewart/Stuart family lines have now been found.
This despite the destruction of records and buildings by the Hanovarians to conceal the proof, DNA cannot be destroyed in the blood line.
cgms310 1 year ago
Piper Laidlaw played this air as the regimental march,when he led the 7th battallion KOSB over the top at Loos and when in view of the enemy lines,changed the tune to the regimental charge"The Standard on the Braes of Mar".
What puzzles me is,why a regiment that was raised to protect Edinburgh from the jacobite forces of James 2nd would have an outright jacobite tune as the regimental charge! .Did this happen wi other regiments ? Did pipers play what they wanted? I would love to know!
heartofthereiver 1 year ago
@heartofthereiver : to answer, I played what ever came to mind in Iraq, a 6/8 or 2/4 march mostly and a few catchy Irish tunes (I know, god forbid), my dad said the one time he played into action in Korea he "ran" across a field then had to lie down behind a tree for cover and was able to make "bagpipe noises" whilst on the ground ( I asked him what tunes he played ha ha). I'm off to Afghanistan soon w/ the pipes. Remember this sound ? yup, someone is going to die!!!!
pipes0987 1 year ago
@pipes0987 Cheers for that.I wondered you know,it must be hard trying to concentrate playing the pipes when the bullets are flying all around.Piper Laidlaw did this and although wounded,hobbled back to his own lines, after the position was taken.For this he was awarded the V.C. Big respect to the man !
When you head out to that theatre of war,keep ya powder and ya pipes dry and ya heed doon,best o luck pal.
heartofthereiver 1 year ago
i've just started playing bodhran and i've gathered from information on the internet that you should be using your elbow and hand not the wrist to create the correct movement, i'm not usually one to get hung up on "the proper way" but the corries wrists in this video seem to be doing a lot of the work, is what i've read bollocks? the corries can't be wrong..... or is it a visual allusion? haha
ooooooooser 1 year ago
recessionallover.!!! nae Scottish blood then..!!?
fastonthedraw 2 years ago 3
Those damn things - the scourge of the folk clubs. I would have every bodhran smashed and burnt. The man who invented them should do the Saddam Swing!
recessionlover 2 years ago
What are the drums? I take it one is a bodhran { but which?} Is the other a Northumberalnd/Northumbrian drum?
kricolma 2 years ago 2
@ kristinelawrie :The blue bonneets are over the border because it's a song about price Charlie of Scotland and his blue bonnet wearing troops moving into england during the Jacobite rebellion.
OldSarge111 2 years ago 5
What rebellion? How can you rebel when you fight for the rightful king? The English government ursurped the throne and gave it away to william of orange.
Cuilean07 2 years ago 8
@OldSarge111 Aye you are getting Blue bonnets over the Border mixed up wi The Bonnets Blue.The tune Blue Bonnets etc come about after the regiment were raised by Earl of Leven in 1869 to defend Edinburgh against the jacobite forces of James 2nd.The tune was used as the regimental march and in 1820 the Shirra wrote the words,which further strengthens the Border connection.
heartofthereiver 1 year ago
Why are the blue bonnets over the border!!!!!!!!!!
kristinelawrie 2 years ago
MAD PIPER !!!!!!!
raphamar80 2 years ago
Alba Gu Brath
hullawrrer 2 years ago 5
Man, that is a BIG bodhrán!
MrSleepyFox 2 years ago 23
@MrSleepyFox Thats what she said
ChiefyMT 1 year ago
Alba Gu Brath.
evo1dee4life 2 years ago 9
"OOHRAaaaa Scots!"
chiburui6 2 years ago 5
Actually, you're right.
I love the Corries, I saw them live loads of times and met them once, when i was 13
I asked if I could join the band, they told me no, because they didn't want to split the money three ways
Doigyisabenny 2 years ago
No, I said life under a dictatorship is always worse than life under a democracy. You want to live in a dictatorship?? Go live in Zimbabwe and THEN tell me how things are so much better
Instead of reasoning an arguement you resort to rudeness, which just suggests to me you don't actually have one, plus your grasp of history seems a little shaky
I love this song, but it is NOT a pro-Jacobite anthem, it's a British Army march written by the very pro-Hanovarian Sir Walter Scott
Doigyisabenny 2 years ago
The worst sort of dictatorship is one that is democratically elected.
Vexed34 2 years ago
Please, please - don't feel sorry for me!!
And don't get "Scotland" mixed up with "The Highlands" either. The 1745 was lowland vs highland, NOT Scottish vs English. That's a myth.
All of the european autocrats were deposed in bloody revolution over the next 160 years, we, at least, were spared that.
Dont think the highlands were an idyllic Celtic paradise, either. They were barbaric, brutal and cruel, the same way the Balkans were in the 1990's.
Hollywod has a lot to answer for!!
Doigyisabenny 2 years ago
the jacobite cause showed that the clans could unit under the one banner, through out our history we have fought among ourselves until it came to the defence of our country, that proves that scotland is one of the most patriotic countries in the world. No matter what,the patriots of this country will do anything and lay down there lives for the land they love!
UrFavWorstNightmare 2 years ago 48
@UrFavWorstNightmare Except you leave out a few facts: Very few Clans turned out for the '45 rebellion, there were far more Scottish troops fighting against the jacobites than for them. And the war was not between Scotland and England, Charles Edward Stuart repeatedly stated that he wanted the British throne, not just the Scottish one. Oh and this song is about an earlier period in history and has nothing to do with the Jacobite cause.
Scotsgit 1 year ago
@Scotsgit Im not sure i agree with you. They know now that it was about 47% clans and the rest was made up from lowlanders, french and irish. I would agree however that there were Scots fighting for the Hanovarians.
computers734 1 year ago
@Scotsgit
Can you tell me what book you read this in or supply the proof that more Scots fought against The Jacobites?
Your right about the song being about an earlier time but the satatement about more Scots on Brit side is pure Propaganda. now if you can prove it I will eat my ain bunnet, but please till then dini buy into the unionst crap
TheJacobiker 1 year ago
@UrFavWorstNightmare You forget the Covenanters.
wijse 1 year ago
@wijse Yes theJacobites were the Catholics who oppressed, tortured and took away the lands of Covenanters, no surprise their descendants wouldn't fight for the Jacobite cause, but rather against it. And several James Stewarts were downright bloodthirsty in their treatment of the Border Clans, you can't expect help from them a few generations later as if they would have forgotten.
LinnTractorNut 1 year ago
@UrFavWorstNightmare Perhaps that's a factor in what makes Scottish men so sexy; from my reading (more extensive than my real travels) & limited travels to ten countries, I've seen NO equal to Scottish men
stjulienlepauvre 11 months ago
@UrFavWorstNightmare I'm afraid thats just nonsense. The Highland clans fought on both sides at Culloden. There were Jacobite clans and Hanoverian clans. The Jacobite cause incidentally had nothing to do with the defence of our country, it was a fight over who would rule britain from London.
ColdMattyCross 2 months ago
@ColdMattyCross And this song has nothing to do with the Jacobites anyway. It is taken from a Scott novel set in the mid 16thC and the song actually is about Borderers going over the border into England in the name of the Scottish Queen! They seem in this video to have changed it to King for some unknown reason!
gaconnochie 1 month ago
Cradh, Glad you're back. You always make great, informative posts that people need to see. Thanks.
JeannieTomlin 2 years ago
I read all the Little House on the Prairie books and I seem to remember having read these same lyrics in the book. Don't know how many of you are Laura Ingalls Wilder fans...but I happen to know that her ancestry was traced back to Scotland. I remember that this was a tune that Laura's Pa had played on his fiddle to entertain them over the Long Winter. Now I know how the song goes!!! :D
drummerlead 2 years ago
Scotland.... not Ireland!!
gport7 2 years ago
this is the quick march song for the royal regiment of scotland's first battalion the royal scotish borderers xxv
scotishborderer 2 years ago
What the hell has this got to do with Ireland? You Americans know fuck all and don't know the difference between Scots and Irish. Lets not pretend here, when you say Irish you mean Roman Catholic. Its got nothing to do with being Irish
bloobear1 2 years ago
Funny remark considering you all are going to be Islamic soon.
chiburui6 2 years ago
Hey that's a good trick (talking through yer arse). Islamic? Don't talk utter shite
bloobear1 2 years ago 3
LOL good to hear (even if said through me arse) fight on brother's.
chiburui6 2 years ago
mon the jacobites!
Lest ye forget.
tententsdrinker 3 years ago
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gport7 2 years ago
There are other technical differences and the Uillean pipes are very versatile as are the parlor pipes. Eirinn gu brath agus Albainn gu brath
Macangusagain 3 years ago
Actually happygael,that is only partly correct. There are two main types, The Irish (Uillean or Elbow) and the Scottish (Great Highland or Small Border) The Uillean pipes are pumped with the elbow ,the bag spring loaded ,and in the great Highland Bagpipes the bag is blown by the chanter as the pipes are played. The Small Border or Parlour pipes have a bag that is similar in concept to the Uillean pipes but is strapped to the forearm.
Macangusagain 3 years ago 3
Doogy or is it doggy? The pipes came from the middle east do not claim them as a pictish invention. As far as pipe bands go tYou have been looking in all the wrong places for Irish pipe bands. As far as the slur about my id I am more man than you could ever hope to be. I am American of Immigrant Irish parents I am proud of my heritage and my American citizenship.Irish and Scots both are gaelic tribes. the difference between Irish and Scottish Pipes are the amount of drones on the instrument.
happygael 3 years ago
In America you may have Irish pipe bands playing scottish bagpipes and tunes and dressed in highland scots kit as you drink green beer and watch the parade. But to actual Scots, Ulster Scots and the Irish the whole thing is rediculously ignorant.
mustangmilligan 3 years ago 5
To Mustang Milligan
Re Irish and the Pipes.
It might be a common love for the pipes that causes them to respond to it.
The compete against each others playing the instrument. You should welcome them not be trying to exclude them
happygael 3 years ago
i think what he (she?) is trying to say is that americans can't seem to tell the difference between scots and irish!!
the pipes are scottish, not irish, for example. the only "traditional irish" marching bands i've ever seen march with flutes, bowler hats and orange sashes, and there's nothing quaint or twee about them.
Doigyisabenny 3 years ago 4
Yeah, thats exactly what I was saying :)
Bowler hats and Orange sashes arn't exactly Irish lol. More Ulster Scots. Funny comment tho.
mustangmilligan 3 years ago 4
"ay'm nut ayrish, ay'm BRUTTISH"
heh heh! nothing winds ulstermen up more than being refered to as "irish".
Doigyisabenny 3 years ago 6
lol, so true :)
mustangmilligan 3 years ago
"bowler hats and orange sashes, and there's nothing quaint or twee about them"........Well, old boy,..that's a matter of opinion ;-). ......and before you say it, i will....
ay'm nut ayrish, ay'm BRUTTISH!!!!!....LOL
rockinbillyboy 2 years ago
Some of us Americans can tell the difference between Irish and Scotsmen.
Some of us can trace our heritage back to loosing our titles land and even our correct names to the abuses of the English against Scotsmen and our clans.
My family lost everything and had to run to America from Scotland for refusing to bow to King Willie, or the German usupers who hold the crown today.
Hefferman1 2 years ago 10
I hear ye...
Our Scottish name was changed ourselves...
Allan to the french form Allain..
All we can do is remember what we are,and be proud O' it!
ceanadach 2 years ago 4
If you really want to identify with Scottish people - REAL Scottish people and not the ridiculous Hollywood masturbatory fantasy of Scottish people - you need to know that heritage is found in people, not movies or books. Let it go, we Scots don't hate the English any more!
I love this song, but it was written a very pro-Hanoverian lackey (read Sir Walter Scott's bio).
For the record, it's a damn good thing thing the Jacobites lost, a restored Stewart monarchy would have been a disaster.
Doigyisabenny 2 years ago
That or a Scottish King would have had religious freedom, not killed millions of Scottsmen, not tried to make America a slave Colony, ect ect...
We don't know what would have happened, but we do know of the terrible abuses of the thugs from Germany did, now don't we.
Think of no slave colonies, no murders in the name of an illegal king, no raping of women, no forced deportations.
Too bad none of this happened, or Scottland, England, Canada, and the US could have been one big happy country.
Hefferman1 2 years ago 10
No - a Stewart victory with French help would have drawn Britain into the colonial wars of the era. What would have happened a few years later, when the French Revolution started...?
The Stewarts were autocrats, just like Louis XIV, just like Tsar Nickolas, just like Charles I, for that matter. Political stabilty came out of the constitutional monarchy of the Hanover line - much as i HATE to admit it.
Slavery was abolished by the Hanovers, rape and murder was always the highland way of life!
Doigyisabenny 2 years ago
Ok 1st of all who said ANYTHING about the bagpipes. Does this clip contain pipes.... rewatched it... nope.
This is a song of the Scottish Borders, has NOTHING to do with IRISH or IRISH AMERICANS!
Furthermore, the KOSB who used this tune as a regimental march are well known in Northern Ireland, and were quite hated by Irish Nationalists. I know, as I was there.
mustangmilligan 3 years ago 2
why do bagpipers march when playing?
cuz it's harder to hit a moving target!!
Doigyisabenny 3 years ago
I said nothing about the origin of that tune. i just stated what hearing it did for me.All pipe music thrills me.
happygael 3 years ago
still a great song.
I am first generation American of full blooded Irish descent. I think it brings the celt in me to the fore
happygael 3 years ago
it not a irish. it about the clans of border scotland between scotland and england
jimmybhoy4 3 years ago 8
WHY does every scottish music clip on youtube include an american comenting on thier irish herritage?
mustangmilligan 3 years ago 5
I am a Scot-Irish and English mixed with Viking and something that tans well I have been to Gourock and Glasgow I love the country and the people.
I own my own land and horses, I am a landlord and citizen, I am not a peasant I owe my allegiance to America not Britain.
I do feel the call of the mother country and it makes me proud.
No offence taken.
chiburui6 3 years ago
I am glad to hear that, And i just re-read what i wrote and it does seem rather rude, for that i apologise.
I never meant it that way.
And if this was 1776 i would be strapping a blue coat on right now.
God bless you my friend.
ALba Gu Brath!
Jinky1888 3 years ago
We are speaking about lowland Scot/Irish American otherwise known world wide as the Red neck?
cause that's where all the blue bonnets ended up fighting Native tribes, French and Spainish for the land in Europes interest.
"Speaking as a redneck of course"
chiburui6 3 years ago
My friend, no offence to you, i think your heart is in the right place, and while i certainly have nothing against the "red necks"
I think you should read up on your history that has not been written by the Anglo Saxons.
I.E i am Caledonian, not a Scotch/Irish Protestant peasant of the Corrupt masonic elite of imperialistic Britannica.
To put it bluntly.
Jinky1888 3 years ago
suas alba !!!
mikeyboy1965 3 years ago 2
England shall many a day, speak of the bloody fray, when the blue bonnets came over the border.
maybrook1 3 years ago 6
it a border song
jimmybhoy4 3 years ago
Aye, it put another inch on the Battalion when the Pipe and Drums struck up "Blue Bonnets".
spatso 3 years ago 2
As a Scottsman,I can only say that this tune gets the blood moving and sets the feet to tapping. You can see the highland men marching off to close with the foe! All Scotts need to take this history to heart and keep it with them as they work towards a bright and independent future. Alba gu brath!
ZeitgeistWI 4 years ago 2
Wee bit wrong about the Highlanders...Blue Bonnets is a Lowland tune, all the family names are Border and Dumfriesshire. This is the regimental Quick March of the gone, but never forgotten, The Kings Own Scottish Borderers.
crascodav 4 years ago 7
Apologies for my zeal, got a bit excited with the song and all. Thanks for the historical note though, always appreciate learning more.Take care.
ZeitgeistWI 4 years ago 6
Did some more research and you were spot on. Written by Sir Walter Scott about the borderers and how they were the first line of defense against the English. I was confusing it with the Blue Bonnets for Charlie. Confusing at times but nonetheless fascinating and it makes your pulse just a wee bit faster doesn't it? Thanks again.
ZeitgeistWI 4 years ago 5
Heartily agree 'bout the pulse beating faster! Have marched behind this tune many times and it is one which makes you stand tall!
crascodav 4 years ago 4
Hi ther
Despite it not being a song of the highlanders, it is still a song of Scottish Nationalism none the less.
So highland or lowland, i would march to my death to this song.
Jinky1888 3 years ago 2
jinky1888...thats a strong statement!! I like the song alot but I wouldn't march to my death listening to it. If I had to march to my death I'd choose to listen to Motorheads 'March or Die'. But I'd rather have a nice stroll than march to my death, even skipping to my death would be prefferable!! LOL :o)
suspectdevice7 3 years ago
Not Hielanders. This was about lowlanders wha fought for Scotland. We might want to remember that William Wallace and good King Robert were both lowlanders. So was Sir James Lord of Douglas who often led his lowland men "over the borders". All the names in the song are lowland names.
It makes me sad (WAY beyond sad) that it was used by Borderers. I'm sorry but what a tragedy that so many laid down their lives for tyrants and murderers.
Saor Alba
JeannieTomlin 2 years ago
Indeed! Armstrongs and Scotts alone could field 3000 lancers apiece at 24 hrs notice. The original refers to Mary Queen of Scots - not a king - which would date it during 1500s. Much earlier - Wallace (Welshman) was descended from a salopian family of welsh refugees when shropshire was annexed by England - Bruce was lowland but half Gael (on his mother's side) half Norman or Flemish, and Gaelic speaker - Douglas itself is a Gaelic name although the family settled in the lowlands.
Alba Saor a'Nis
Cradh 2 years ago
James Graham the Marquis of Montrose = Lowlander (Graham clan was a lowland clan)
gport7 2 years ago
they have a thing called pride
madpict 4 years ago 2
whats that drum hing theyre plane
Snadd1987 4 years ago
It's called a bodhran, a traditional drum made from goatskin.
JBurdoo 4 years ago
awright cheers
Snadd1987 4 years ago
Not that traditonal - it only dates back to the 1960's.
Scotsgit 4 years ago
The bodhrán was used during the Irish rebellion of 1603, by the Irish forces, as a war drum, or battle drum. The use of the drum was to provide a cadence for the pipers and warriors to keep to, as well as announce the arrival of the army. This leads some to think that the bodhrán was derived from an old Celtic war drum
Tweej 4 years ago 3
The origins of the drum are various, as Tweej hints at, but the widely known origin is its part in religious processions at the start of the 20th century.
The first use of the drum in folk music came around the late 40's/early 50's with Seamus O'Raida and The Chieftains.
Since then the Bodhrán has gone through a massive development and growth process with the introduction of modern playing styles (Top-End, Neo-Bodhrán etc) and the introduction of new tuning systems and construction techniques.
catlakedotnet 3 years ago
great border song
jimmybhoy4 4 years ago
Bloody brilliant!
Scotsgit 4 years ago 3
BRILLIANT !!
Jinky1888 4 years ago 2
its soo terrible !!!!
jonandpippa 4 years ago
That was amazing...thank you for posting this.
montrevant 4 years ago
Good to hear!
stoner59 5 years ago