The big lie is you telling ppl that same sex marriage wont negatively affect anyone,it will affect the whole world. when you replace GOD with satan its gonna have a negative affect. 2 men or 2women can not be husband and wife.PERIOD! If you dont believe me go back to the time when we had this same arguement about marriages of the opposite sex...oh thats right there never was an arguement about heterosexual marriage.I wonder why? If homosexuality is right why do you need to hide in a closet
I have a criticism of the video. Towards the end, so many people are speaking over each other that we don't get a complete rundown of the big lies homophobes use to deny gay/lesbian Americans equal rights.
Anyway, the law that requires including some gay history when teaching of American history, as is required for many minorities who are, in fact, a part of American history just as gays are, has nothing to do with Prop 8 or gay marriage. If you heard otherwise...you were lied to.
If we are going to legalize gay marriage, we will also have to pass laws making it a crime to use the benefits and presumptions of marriage for the purpose of misrepresentation or fraud - in particular, claiming paternity of a child you know is not your child must be re-criminalized, and doing it for the purpose of collecting benefits (that rightfully ought to belong to the child's other real parent?) should be a separate charge or set of charges.
same sex marriage is wrong because the same sex can not impregnate each other ! also genetics can not be passed on with out a third party involved ! so to have gay marriage requires changing the ethics of marriage and so on , and kids have to much on there plate already and don't need more adult political delusions in their life
what does impregnation have to do with marriage... marriage also has nothing to do with the passing of genetics... otherwise every whore on the planet would be what? via WIKI "Marriage is a social union or legal contract between people that creates kinship" its all just a game of opinions in what is socially accepted... ALSO... if you want to be "Christian" and also think that certain parties don't deserve the privileges of marriage... what would Jesus like? he would like everyone to be happy
@ScienceReasonBelief The onus to provide proof rests on the party who made the original claim. My reasons are abundant and well-researched, available to anyone who does the slightest bit of research for themselves. This video is nothing more than pathetic propaganda.
your reasons are NOT abundant & well-researched. if they WERE, there wouldn't be the need for videos like this to counter the falsehoods. during the Prop 8 campaign, for example, every single false claim that the anit-gay marriage people threw out there was refuted by indpt sources-- easily available to anyone who does the slightest but of research and doesn't cling to religious superstition. it was and is pathetic propaganda that bigots use to cloak their homophobia.
@ScienceReasonBelief Videos like these don't counter any falsehoods, they perpetuate falsehoods. You used a lot of buzzwords in your response just now, but you also displayed a significant amount of intolerance and a misguided reliance on false information. Good luck when you finally find the truth, should you ever be open-minded enough to discover it. It's going to really open your eyes.
You have said essentially nothing. You keep talking about "abundant" & "well-researched" reasons, yet you have failed to produce even one. Name one and we'll see how well it holds up to scrutiny.
It's sad that you display intolerance and rely on false info. No gay wants take away your Right to worship as you please, no matter how obviously false the mormon faith is. Yet you would not allow gays the Right to marry.
@ScienceReasonBelief I told you, the burden of proof rests on the shoulders of those who made the original claim. But if you insist, do a little research on the rights of parents being taken away regarding what their children are taught in elementary school. Marriage is not a right, it's a privilege that you can only qualify for once you meet certain requirements (age, consent, etc.), not unlike qualifying for a driver's license. Ad hominem attacks against my faith=conversation over.
Nice try, but... Any school that does not allow parents to opt out of something they don't agree with, is in the wrong. This is long established. Even so, kids are taught many things in school that their parents may not agree with, such as evolution, family planning, etc. A parent has the right to teach their their own religious beliefs, and that would not change with gay marriage. Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with a child knowing that gay people exist.
Part 2: Marriage IS a right, and this has been established by the US Supreme Court several times, most notably in Loving vs. Virginia, where they stated "marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man". So, you're wrong again. So much for "well-researched" reasons.
By the way, biased attacks against my community = conversation over.
@ScienceReasonBelief Just one more thing: Nice try, but... once again, if you would PLEASE do a little research, this is definitely happening, and this is just one example, and teaching far more than just that "gay people exist". I love it, I provided proof of my point and you totally dodged it. Weaksauce! Have a nice life, and do a little reading before you try to discuss these issues with someone again.
I've done the research, kiddo. It's obvious that you haven't! There's nothing wrong with kids knowing about any kind of people, including gays, as long as the info is AGE-APPROPRIATE. You don't teach kids about sex--gay or hetero--until they're ready for it. And any school that restricts the rights of parents or teaches info that is not appropriate is in the wrong. Just because there are some rogue schools out there doesn't mean that the gay community supports it!
@ScienceReasonBelief If you (*ahem*) do your research, you'll learn just what is being taught that parents are opposing, and it is certainly not age-appropriate, and it is certainly required. Sorry, I guess I should have realized you know everything. Like said, kiddo, have a nice life.
If you would (*ahem) pay attention, you would know that simply because there are schools out there not obeying the law by letting parents opt out, or teaching info that is not age-appropriate, this does NOT meant that the gay community approves of this! Try to get this thru your head. This also happens with other controversial subjects as well... trying to make the gay comm a scapegoat is unfair and wrong.
Part 2: Now, I know what it's like to be relatively fresh off your mission in the confines of Utah Valley & you think you know everything.... but you don't. Only experience & learning will help you understand.
Like your claim that marriage is not a right. As I stated before, the US Supreme Ct has determined that "marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man" (Loving vs. Virginia, 1967).
The right of religious freedom doesn't trump the right to marriage.
@ScienceReasonBelief You are so clever. It's like you know everything about me! Except you don't. I am closer to this issue than you know. I've been in and out of it. I've seen it from both sides. You are working with blinders on. Victim mentality? Sense of entitlement? I think so! Peace.
Yes, I had a feeling that you'd seen the inside of an Evergeen or LDS Family Services office. I've experienced it from both sides too. Try thinking outside the box... you might be pleasantly surprised.
@ScienceReasonBelief Funny, I HAVE thought outside the box. I spent a lot of time outside of it actually. The surprises I found there weren't pleasant. I hope science and reason offer you enough to believe in, because you won't find it in the long run with this form of "open-mindedness."
Reason and science offer me far more than the Mormon church ever did. As far as "the long run" is concerned, I've been far happier outside than in... and the happiness is lasting. If you found unpleasant surprises, I'm sorry to hear that... but your perspective may hampered your perception. It's really different outside the Zion curtain... some can't handle it, or they simply crave the structure that Mormonism provides.
Gay people should have a right to marry. They shouldnt be legally and systematically forced to remain single or marry a heterosexual. Thats just wrong
@yedrow There's tons of "evidence" that heterosexual marriage and activities are unsafe. Such as abortion (Depends on the situation), child rape, murder, sexual deviance (Included, but not limited to rape), physical and or emotional abuse... Just look at the past, ohhh, 10,000 years of human existence. Get over your bigoted, bull shit and ridiculous opinion. Gay rights <3!
yedrow: Have you never heard of mutation? Also I don't believe there is a gay "gene", I believe it's a result of prenatal hormones released during the 3rd-5th month. There may certainly be a genetic component that influences that but it is likely a number of genes rather than one single one. It would account for varying sexual orientations as well as the fact that identical twins can sometime not share the same orientation as each has their own amniotic sac in utero.
@jonohaz I don't see how your comment changes anything. I think the best science appears to be pointing to the mother's genetic structure, not the individual's. In any event, there is no proof that gay marriage is safe for a culture, let alone good for a culture. There are however strong suggestions that it is either unsafe, or that it is a function of a dying culture.
Yedrow, you are very wrong in terms of an evolution perspective. Homosexuality within homo sapiens actually makes a lot of sense. If a family has a gay member as a part of it that member would likely not have children (unless female and raped) and thus would have been able to provide more food/resources to their kin's offspring which would increase his/her brother's/sister's offspring chance of survival or younger siblings' chances of survival. It is therefor evolutionarily advantageous.
@jonohaz That is an explanation, but is it the best? First, in such an analysis intent becomes problematic. I don't believe the genome has it in the way we experience it. Your explanation appeals to intent that doesn't exist. Contrast that to my explanation that merely relies upon the fact that an adaptive genetic system will perforce yield up failed units.
As a matter of adaptive consequence, societies fail to suppress bad units. Your system does work here, but has no genetic precursor.
What i really can't believe is how evil people can be against a group of people just wanting the same right as everyone else.. It's not criminals, stop threating them as such... Im not gay myself in any way but i really can't understand such a nazi feeling towards a bunch of normal people.
@ALACHING "the best gun against the homofobia its the information... "
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Yes quite true. The light of day exposes the lies.
Those who promote the propaganda against us know that hysteria is better fed with misinformation and calculated half truths. Critical thought and humane perspectives seem blocked in these supposedly 'spiritual' people and their followers.
It would seem their 'god' is fear itself. Too bad.
personaly i believe marriage is between a man and a woman. Im not afraid of homosexual marriage being legal. im just afraid of situations like what happend in new jersey. a church lost its tax exempt status because they refused to let a lesbian couple to marry in on their property. what the hell happend to seperation of church and state.
remember everyone, anyone converted against their will, are going to be of the same opinion still.
Hah! They could be lying to themselves. They are definitely lying to you. The sad sick truth is that these are fascists. Goebbels was a fascist (I've read his memoirs btw, I bet these jokers haven't). Marriage is about raising children, not about recreational sex. Making it about recreational sex will obviously change it.
@streetswell Actually, to consider this you have to separate the empirical from the transcendental, the brain from the mind. Having done that, you have a. Reproductive Couples, b. People who would be RC's but can't, and c. Non-RCs. There are two types of NRCs, strait and homosexual (ignoring beastial and incestuous). Okay, a and b are intent on a purpose, reproduction. They are healthy in the use of their bodies. cont...
@streetswell In catagory d though, you have an inseparable group who use their sex organs for recreation. To survive society must spend its resources to support a. For a to maintain social and cultural integrity society must support b. The hetero elements of c cannot be separated from the members of b, so encysting them is destructive to society. So, a portion is constructive, a portion is destructive. You can't do anything about the destructive portion because you can't safely identify them.
Utter gibberish (you also dodged my question). No one will stop straight people from marrying or having kids, or devalue said institutions. Nothing will change for straight people, and gay people will finally be treated as full human beings by the law.
@streetswell I answered you question directly, although my answer was plagued by typos. I'm guessing you didn't understand what I said. You can't allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good. Yes, there are NRC hetero couples. Yes, they are as destructive in their dead weight aspect to homosexual couples. But there is no way to identify them safely. So it is a partial solution where no complete solution exists, and some solution is necessary.
@yedrow The folks who create ads like this do it for one reason: they hate gay people. The whole "marriage is about producing kids" argument is just camouflage. I'm not accusing you of being a homophobe, but I would encourage you to get to know gay couples raising kids. They're the same loving parents that straight couples are, and any suggestion to the contrary is just fearmongering put forth by the Taliban wing of the Republican Party.
@streetswell They hate gay people? That is your argument? Considering the difficulty in proving motivations, can you prove that? Or, are you using this as an excuse to hate them?
I know Gay couples. That fact however is absolutely not necessary to have an opinion on the subject. I have an opinion about universal health care, though I'm not a doctor.
You don't understand the construct they believe they are protecting. It is the very foundation of civilization and you trivialize it.
@streetswell I want you to very seriously consider this. Drop the bias, the jingoistic jingles, and think real hard about this: Family is the foundation of civilization. If family is destroyed, the civilization dies. Human beings mate in heterosexual pairs for a biological reason. The secondary structure 'family' as a construct is an expression of the soundness of that culture. Gay marriage can kill our culture.
Think not? What happened to the Mayans, the Romans, the Greeks, ad naueum?
@yedrow They were all wiped out by other, invading civilizations. homosexuality had nothing to do with it and, to my knowledge, has never destroyed a civilization. You're being a tad hysterical here. I say again that including gay couples in the enjoyment of a basic human right only strengthens the notion of family.
@streetswell Yes, but they were weakened. According to Zimmerman the family was weakened by the acceptance of child murder, the reduction of the rights of women through easy divorces, and non-reproductive homosexual vices.
We ourselves are dying. The Baby Boomers failed on all of those points, they aborted those who would have worked to provide for their old age, they divorced at the drop of a hat, and they engaged in recreational sex to the exclusion of reproduction. It really is that simple.
@yedrow Every time you have had sex it was to procreate....never for fun or recreation? HYPOCRITE. And homosexuality is not a "Vice" it is a biological predisposition. If it was just a vice why would anyone CHOOSE to be ridiculed and excluded and shunned by a society of bible belters. God Transcends any written text about it. The fact that the bible is written in human language limits it as it is.
@chandru1103 That is called the Nirvana fallacy. No, I didn't every time. But, that is what sex is for and I was conscious of it every time, prepared for it every time. And, there is no urge in sex beyond procreation. The drive CAN be perverted, but it remains the drive. No one is biologically predisposed to be homosexual. They are behaviorally disposed. Why would anyone choose to die in a ditch from a drug overdose? Why do people commit adultery? Why do we kill each other with AIDS?
Is your opinion based on religion in any way shape or form? Or any idealized view of humanity? Or just plain homophobia? If you answered YES then you have some fallacies of your own to cope with. And even if it was “perverted” as you say...how is that the homosexual’s fault? Exactly. It isn’t. What I think is that you conservatives can no longer call people negroes, so naturally homophobia is the last acceptable frontier of bigotry. But alas there is no point in arguing, consevs are dogmatic.
@chandru1103 The charge of homophobia is a censorship tactic. My opinion is valid based on its merits. You cling to the homophobia charge since there is no logic to your argument. Telling someone to be homosexual is the same as telling them to die, in a genetic, special perpetuation sense. Either humans are animals, in which case homosexuals are threats to the social unit, or humans are transcendent creatures, in which case the perversion of the reproductive act is an abuse. You lose either way.
@yedrow Or there is a third. That homosexuality is a condition inherent within our species since it’s evolution. And that they are in someway responsible for population control A very important genetic purpose. One that would keep us from living past our means for a longer period of time. And seeing as it has been discovered in most mammal species, maybe it is used as a defense mechanism to conserve resources. And you never answered if your opinion was based on religion, which i find odd.
@chandru1103 My opinion is based both on empirical observation and religion.
There is no example of anal penetration in the animals. Anything less rigs the game to yield a preferred outcome.
Yes, it could be programed, but I find that unlikely. I strongly suspect that it is animal adaptability (at the extremes the system breaks down) that is compromised by the lack in humans of real instincts. However, I also think that aggressive homosexualization rituals are symptoms of a dying culture.
@yedrow Well of course if everyone was homosexual, then yes a culture would die. But seeing as numbers are floating around 6-9% I don’t see that happening. No one who doesn’t feel attraction to the same sex will act homosexually under natural conditions, so it really is nothing to worry about. Allowing people to marry, adopt, accept death benefits, and visit hospital rooms is hardly going to take down any society. I think that the fundamentalist viewpoint is blowing it WAAAY out of proportion.
@chandru1103 You are leaning on a point in a graph that out of context is irrelevant. The numbers were once much lower, they are climbing, and same sex attraction is only one aspect of homosexuality. There is in fact no such a thing as homosexuality since sex is a reproductive process. There are reproductives and non-reproductives. The numbers of non-reproductives is growing and the population is diminishing. This fatal vulnerability is leading to attacks from several diverse fronts, globally.
@yedrow Family is the foundation of civilization. If family is destroyed, the civilization dies. Human beings mate in heterosexual pairs for a biological reason. The secondary structure 'family' as a construct is an expression of the soundness of that culture. Gay marriage can kill our culture."
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"kill our culture"? LOL! What a crock!
You suggested a connection but did not support it beyond that. Silly don't you think.
BTW, heterosexuality was involved in ALL destruction of cultures LOL!
Those pleading eyes they have bug me. They try to tug at your strings. Just by saying some one is lying doesn't mean they are lying. No one has facts and both sides are playing a game to win over as many dumb people as possible.
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also this ad mentions the millons that good decent christian ( mostly) people are spending to inform people of their opinion yet the devient community spend over 4 million compared 2 million for the people who support traditional values.
100% would be more of a huge victory.......53% is more of a "up the credit limit on your Macy's charge card" because your gunna be buying wedding gifts for all your homo friends in just a few years.
if the people change and decide they want to allow deviants to marry against the laws of God i do not agree with that but woudl accept that as the way our system works.
Numbers don't lie......gay marriage support has increased by 20+ % in less than two decades, with a majority of opposition in elderly votes. Gay marriage supporters are just a few harsh flue epidemics away from a majority.
@masalanyc it may have been written by man.but those words came from God. God told the great ones what to say how to live and how to take care of your self propely. he did not want a man and man to be with one another same with females. it is not the natural way of life. if you feel for God then you would know this.
homosexuality is not deviant, it has been around since day 1 or year 1 (just a figure of speech). there are homosexuals throughout history and in religous texts - they have been shrouded and removed by clever interpretation - if a tree falls in the forest does anyone here it?
This needs to be fixed. ALL OVER THE USA!!! Soon some guy will get married in MA to another man, move to FL, where it's not recognized and be able to marry a woman while still married in another state!!!! Is this still one country???
Holy crap, DON'T believe the lies. These people are right, if you listen to a lie long enough you begin to believe that it's true. This video is a prime example of it, no joke.
A good majority of my friends (straight) are trying to their best NOT to get married and a lot of my friends that are gay are trying to get married. Anyone who wants to get into something as crazy as getting married, totally should have the right to. I mean c'mon, gays getting married? That would TOTALLY boost the economy! Imagine how over the top pimped out and expensive they would make it?
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Gay marriage may go directly against my religious beliefs, but it's still a good commercial, and brought with tact. Stick to stuff like this and one day people might take you seriously.
@xeroforhire You're welcome to have religious beliefs. However, I would urge you to think outside of those beliefs when determining the legal rights of those who don't follow them. We're all stuck in this world till we die, it would be nice if we could all enjoy life equally. =]
@Tokorai theological and cultural laws are very different. I'm sure you know that. One form of laws says "You can't be a part of our faction unless you adhere to the rules of our faction." while the other says "The get enough people to agree with you, and we'll change the rules." I believe that you're asking me to abandon my beliefs to accommodate yours. Isn't that considered intolerance? (just more politely worded)
@xeroforhire Absolutely not, I'm not purposing that you change anything about your religious beliefs. The Ku Klux Klan could never be disassembled, they have the right to worship the idea of white supremacy, but they cannot legally act on racist views. This debate has nothing to do with personal beliefs, it's about legal protection.
In fact, whether you think gay marriage is right or wrong has no affect on my ability to marry some random Joe Blow. We just wouldn't have legal protection.
@Tokorai then what's the point of us debating? I filter my cultural beliefs through theology. In the same way, my theology doesn't oppose the standing laws. We disagree, no one is hurt (physically), and we go on living. I don't agree with a lot of stuff I have to put up with, but that doesn't me I have to support it either. we're going in circles.
@xeroforhire There is no point for you to debate, you're not affected by this. The people that are affected are the people who travel out of state and suddenly find their marriage no longer recognized and protected. Not to mention the children of those couples, who are at risk of their parents' unstable legal protections, and also their parents' unstable custody. The state can swoop in and remove those children from their families if those parents lack the legal protection of a straight person.
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Don't believe the lie that there is such a thing as same sex marriage. Same sex unions yes but marriage no. Marriage is a one flesh union between a man and a woman not a mimicry That the people with Same Sex Attachment Disorder are trying to promote. God is the source of true love between a man and a woman. Turn to God and renew your mind and be healed and restored. Don't be one of the SSAD people. Not good not bad just SSAD
@eezyone You really need to take a step back and thinking about your actions. You're defining what marriage is, but the definition of a word, especially limited to the English language the U.S., is highly circumstantial. If you're simply talking about a idea and not a word, then that idea is very personal to you, and I believe it is immoral to enforce your personal belief on others, especially when the opposition to that belief doesn't actually HURT anyone.
@Tokorai Do you know that there is a God who created us with a purpose? Do you know what that purpose is? Do you know that same sex marriage is a misguided attempt to find happiness and a misguided understanding of love and marriage?
Generally humans are a mixture of good and evil and we can become very confused and be misled by lies and halftruths because we are so ignorant of God's love and truth. Same sex marriage is a corruption of love and that is very serious. More than you know.!!!
@eezyone They live a lie? You're the one living your life by a storybook, following some invisible undetectable fairytale god. Homosexuals know what they're doing is right for them based on experience, it has happened in real life, that's the definition of a fact. You're just quoting the voice in your head. You have no reason, no evidence to back up what your thinking, it's just your faith.
You're welcome to waste your life in your imagination but don't make us do it, too.
@Tokorai You keep living your delusions and false beliefs. We all die and go to the spiritual world whether we are prepared or not. If your object of sexual desire is a person of the same gender you have an emotional and psychological and spiritual problem and you are misled and misinformed as to what is normal. Drug addicts, alcoholics and perverts think that they are doing right but in true love and happiness these things cause pain. Facts, you don't know the facts. Just sinful experience.
@eezyone What are the facts then? What fact in life, in experience, do you have to suggest that homosexuality is an emotional, psychological or spiritual problem?
@Tokorai What you don't understand is that. People living is same sex marriages are living a lie and acting like it's normal. That's what makes it dangerous. They by there example are misleading youth and other impressionable people into perverted and confused thinking and behavior. They are hurting themselves and their spirits. In Truelove there is no sex between two men or two women. That is false love or distorted and confused love this corrupts those who practice it and society .
Haha. The dude below (TheBasher100) is almost a parody of himself. "You smell like a monkey?!" I think the last time anyone tried to use that as a *serious* insult was in first grade! He's done a really good job of destroying the legitimacy of his own argument by demonstrating no capacity for rational discourse or thought. Put another way, his views are so extreme and his argument so unintelligent, if he's an example of those who oppose marriage equality, their movement is screwed! :-)
One last note... It would be my tactic to completely ignore anything this guy (Thebasher100) has to say from here on in. There's no productive discussion to be had, and he wants a reaction. He's going to try to piss people off, insult them, whip them up and try to get them to respond in a manner just as unintelligent, angry and crazy as he is. Don't give him the satisfaction. That'll only reward the behavior. Instead, ignore him completely. Just a suggestion. Tanks to all for watching!
No, to the contrary. This is a very strong representation of himself. So incredibly afraid of anything outside of his finite little world that he can only revert to a childish & selfish tantrum! Unfortunately, there are too many who will listen to his venom. (This is what comes from a man & a woman!) LOL
Heh thanks, not my work though! It's made by some guy called Nick Lovell. It's my favorite entry to a competition - check out the descriptions and vote for it if you wish :)
Yeah, they started teaching it even though gay marriage was voted unconstitutional. So all the lies about "gay marriage means kids will be taught" goes out the window. Why? Because it happened anyway! It has nothing to do with gay marriage, but it has to do with what is happening in the world. THAT'S why kids are in school!
The big lie is you telling ppl that same sex marriage wont negatively affect anyone,it will affect the whole world. when you replace GOD with satan its gonna have a negative affect. 2 men or 2women can not be husband and wife.PERIOD! If you dont believe me go back to the time when we had this same arguement about marriages of the opposite sex...oh thats right there never was an arguement about heterosexual marriage.I wonder why? If homosexuality is right why do you need to hide in a closet
eddeld1 2 weeks ago
I have a criticism of the video. Towards the end, so many people are speaking over each other that we don't get a complete rundown of the big lies homophobes use to deny gay/lesbian Americans equal rights.
utxex97 2 months ago
i love this video !! haha GOOD JOB !
eternalgangster09 3 months ago
the fact that their teaching gay history in schools now shows me that the gays are the big liars
kellyannabama 7 months ago
@kellyannabama It's "they are" not "their"
Anyway, the law that requires including some gay history when teaching of American history, as is required for many minorities who are, in fact, a part of American history just as gays are, has nothing to do with Prop 8 or gay marriage. If you heard otherwise...you were lied to.
iridescentsquids 2 months ago
Hello, I'm Kanye West the Gay Fish
KanyeWestTheGayFish 8 months ago
Great video. Telling the truth without overselling it with "dark clouds looming overhead."
quickpickandthick 9 months ago
Christians STOP LYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
choongd 9 months ago 2
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surangiable 1 year ago
If we are going to legalize gay marriage, we will also have to pass laws making it a crime to use the benefits and presumptions of marriage for the purpose of misrepresentation or fraud - in particular, claiming paternity of a child you know is not your child must be re-criminalized, and doing it for the purpose of collecting benefits (that rightfully ought to belong to the child's other real parent?) should be a separate charge or set of charges.
vicorii 1 year ago
This video propaganda piece IS the big lie. This video is a perfect example of the media propaganda spelled out in the book called, After The Ball.
funk7000 1 year ago
@funk7000 You seem to be confused. The religious bullshit dogma perpetrated by the catholic church is the propaganda.
This video is known as "truth" or "fact" which are foreign concepts for religious wingnuts.
captwasabi 5 months ago
same sex marriage is wrong because the same sex can not impregnate each other ! also genetics can not be passed on with out a third party involved ! so to have gay marriage requires changing the ethics of marriage and so on , and kids have to much on there plate already and don't need more adult political delusions in their life
MARYLANDSTATEVOTERS 1 year ago
what does impregnation have to do with marriage... marriage also has nothing to do with the passing of genetics... otherwise every whore on the planet would be what? via WIKI "Marriage is a social union or legal contract between people that creates kinship" its all just a game of opinions in what is socially accepted... ALSO... if you want to be "Christian" and also think that certain parties don't deserve the privileges of marriage... what would Jesus like? he would like everyone to be happy
SVlightguy 1 year ago
This video is a big lie.
kuabci 1 year ago
@kuabci
oh, really now? how is that? back up your claim, if you're able!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief The onus to provide proof rests on the party who made the original claim. My reasons are abundant and well-researched, available to anyone who does the slightest bit of research for themselves. This video is nothing more than pathetic propaganda.
kuabci 1 year ago
@kuabci
your reasons are NOT abundant & well-researched. if they WERE, there wouldn't be the need for videos like this to counter the falsehoods. during the Prop 8 campaign, for example, every single false claim that the anit-gay marriage people threw out there was refuted by indpt sources-- easily available to anyone who does the slightest but of research and doesn't cling to religious superstition. it was and is pathetic propaganda that bigots use to cloak their homophobia.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago 4
@ScienceReasonBelief Videos like these don't counter any falsehoods, they perpetuate falsehoods. You used a lot of buzzwords in your response just now, but you also displayed a significant amount of intolerance and a misguided reliance on false information. Good luck when you finally find the truth, should you ever be open-minded enough to discover it. It's going to really open your eyes.
kuabci 1 year ago
@kuabci
You have said essentially nothing. You keep talking about "abundant" & "well-researched" reasons, yet you have failed to produce even one. Name one and we'll see how well it holds up to scrutiny.
It's sad that you display intolerance and rely on false info. No gay wants take away your Right to worship as you please, no matter how obviously false the mormon faith is. Yet you would not allow gays the Right to marry.
What makes you better than me?
I hope you finally find the truth.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I told you, the burden of proof rests on the shoulders of those who made the original claim. But if you insist, do a little research on the rights of parents being taken away regarding what their children are taught in elementary school. Marriage is not a right, it's a privilege that you can only qualify for once you meet certain requirements (age, consent, etc.), not unlike qualifying for a driver's license. Ad hominem attacks against my faith=conversation over.
kuabci 1 year ago
@kuabci
Nice try, but... Any school that does not allow parents to opt out of something they don't agree with, is in the wrong. This is long established. Even so, kids are taught many things in school that their parents may not agree with, such as evolution, family planning, etc. A parent has the right to teach their their own religious beliefs, and that would not change with gay marriage. Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with a child knowing that gay people exist.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@kuabci
Part 2: Marriage IS a right, and this has been established by the US Supreme Court several times, most notably in Loving vs. Virginia, where they stated "marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man". So, you're wrong again. So much for "well-researched" reasons.
By the way, biased attacks against my community = conversation over.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Just one more thing: Nice try, but... once again, if you would PLEASE do a little research, this is definitely happening, and this is just one example, and teaching far more than just that "gay people exist". I love it, I provided proof of my point and you totally dodged it. Weaksauce! Have a nice life, and do a little reading before you try to discuss these issues with someone again.
kuabci 1 year ago
@kuabci
I've done the research, kiddo. It's obvious that you haven't! There's nothing wrong with kids knowing about any kind of people, including gays, as long as the info is AGE-APPROPRIATE. You don't teach kids about sex--gay or hetero--until they're ready for it. And any school that restricts the rights of parents or teaches info that is not appropriate is in the wrong. Just because there are some rogue schools out there doesn't mean that the gay community supports it!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief If you (*ahem*) do your research, you'll learn just what is being taught that parents are opposing, and it is certainly not age-appropriate, and it is certainly required. Sorry, I guess I should have realized you know everything. Like said, kiddo, have a nice life.
kuabci 1 year ago
@kuabci
If you would (*ahem) pay attention, you would know that simply because there are schools out there not obeying the law by letting parents opt out, or teaching info that is not age-appropriate, this does NOT meant that the gay community approves of this! Try to get this thru your head. This also happens with other controversial subjects as well... trying to make the gay comm a scapegoat is unfair and wrong.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@kuabci
Part 2: Now, I know what it's like to be relatively fresh off your mission in the confines of Utah Valley & you think you know everything.... but you don't. Only experience & learning will help you understand.
Like your claim that marriage is not a right. As I stated before, the US Supreme Ct has determined that "marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man" (Loving vs. Virginia, 1967).
The right of religious freedom doesn't trump the right to marriage.
I hope you find the truth.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief You are so clever. It's like you know everything about me! Except you don't. I am closer to this issue than you know. I've been in and out of it. I've seen it from both sides. You are working with blinders on. Victim mentality? Sense of entitlement? I think so! Peace.
kuabci 1 year ago
@kuabci
Yes, I had a feeling that you'd seen the inside of an Evergeen or LDS Family Services office. I've experienced it from both sides too. Try thinking outside the box... you might be pleasantly surprised.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Funny, I HAVE thought outside the box. I spent a lot of time outside of it actually. The surprises I found there weren't pleasant. I hope science and reason offer you enough to believe in, because you won't find it in the long run with this form of "open-mindedness."
kuabci 1 year ago
@kuabci
Reason and science offer me far more than the Mormon church ever did. As far as "the long run" is concerned, I've been far happier outside than in... and the happiness is lasting. If you found unpleasant surprises, I'm sorry to hear that... but your perspective may hampered your perception. It's really different outside the Zion curtain... some can't handle it, or they simply crave the structure that Mormonism provides.
But for me, open-mindedness was the saving grace.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
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vechorik 4 months ago
Gay people should have a right to marry. They shouldnt be legally and systematically forced to remain single or marry a heterosexual. Thats just wrong
fratbrotha 1 year ago 2
Funny that someone would post a video about criticizing propaganda, while demonstrating propaganda. There’s some good old fashioned hypocrisy. Lol.
Warblade118 1 year ago 2
@Warblade118
Except that in this case, truth is on our side.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
gay is OK
snorkellisab 1 year ago 2
@yedrow There's tons of "evidence" that heterosexual marriage and activities are unsafe. Such as abortion (Depends on the situation), child rape, murder, sexual deviance (Included, but not limited to rape), physical and or emotional abuse... Just look at the past, ohhh, 10,000 years of human existence. Get over your bigoted, bull shit and ridiculous opinion. Gay rights <3!
Titanz91 1 year ago
Who the hell was dumb enough to thumbs down this?
Titanz91 1 year ago
Great work!
xaviervonrottie 1 year ago
yedrow: Have you never heard of mutation? Also I don't believe there is a gay "gene", I believe it's a result of prenatal hormones released during the 3rd-5th month. There may certainly be a genetic component that influences that but it is likely a number of genes rather than one single one. It would account for varying sexual orientations as well as the fact that identical twins can sometime not share the same orientation as each has their own amniotic sac in utero.
jonohaz 1 year ago
@jonohaz I don't see how your comment changes anything. I think the best science appears to be pointing to the mother's genetic structure, not the individual's. In any event, there is no proof that gay marriage is safe for a culture, let alone good for a culture. There are however strong suggestions that it is either unsafe, or that it is a function of a dying culture.
yedrow 1 year ago
@yedrow YOU ARE A DRIVELING MORON Why don't you take a college anthropology course or maybe even just finish high school.
boxofsoap 1 year ago
Yedrow, you are very wrong in terms of an evolution perspective. Homosexuality within homo sapiens actually makes a lot of sense. If a family has a gay member as a part of it that member would likely not have children (unless female and raped) and thus would have been able to provide more food/resources to their kin's offspring which would increase his/her brother's/sister's offspring chance of survival or younger siblings' chances of survival. It is therefor evolutionarily advantageous.
jonohaz 1 year ago 2
@jonohaz That is an explanation, but is it the best? First, in such an analysis intent becomes problematic. I don't believe the genome has it in the way we experience it. Your explanation appeals to intent that doesn't exist. Contrast that to my explanation that merely relies upon the fact that an adaptive genetic system will perforce yield up failed units.
As a matter of adaptive consequence, societies fail to suppress bad units. Your system does work here, but has no genetic precursor.
yedrow 1 year ago
shhhhhhhh, they will hear you and start believing that gay means happy.
hesicast 1 year ago
What i really can't believe is how evil people can be against a group of people just wanting the same right as everyone else.. It's not criminals, stop threating them as such... Im not gay myself in any way but i really can't understand such a nazi feeling towards a bunch of normal people.
captainnintendo 1 year ago
the best gun against the homofobia its the information...
ALACHING 1 year ago
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@ALACHING "the best gun against the homofobia its the information... "
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Yes quite true. The light of day exposes the lies.
Those who promote the propaganda against us know that hysteria is better fed with misinformation and calculated half truths. Critical thought and humane perspectives seem blocked in these supposedly 'spiritual' people and their followers.
It would seem their 'god' is fear itself. Too bad.
eVVVVV 1 year ago
This needs more views!!! O8<
NikiPaprika 1 year ago
This video is confusing. It uses repetition to try to prove that the other side is using repetition to make you believe in something.
LegendarySkyKing 2 years ago
personaly i believe marriage is between a man and a woman. Im not afraid of homosexual marriage being legal. im just afraid of situations like what happend in new jersey. a church lost its tax exempt status because they refused to let a lesbian couple to marry in on their property. what the hell happend to seperation of church and state.
remember everyone, anyone converted against their will, are going to be of the same opinion still.
maddog2283 2 years ago
Hah! They could be lying to themselves. They are definitely lying to you. The sad sick truth is that these are fascists. Goebbels was a fascist (I've read his memoirs btw, I bet these jokers haven't). Marriage is about raising children, not about recreational sex. Making it about recreational sex will obviously change it.
yedrow 2 years ago
So, what about married straight couples who don't have kids? Is their marriage destroying society?
streetswell 1 year ago
@streetswell Actually, to consider this you have to separate the empirical from the transcendental, the brain from the mind. Having done that, you have a. Reproductive Couples, b. People who would be RC's but can't, and c. Non-RCs. There are two types of NRCs, strait and homosexual (ignoring beastial and incestuous). Okay, a and b are intent on a purpose, reproduction. They are healthy in the use of their bodies. cont...
yedrow 1 year ago
@streetswell In catagory d though, you have an inseparable group who use their sex organs for recreation. To survive society must spend its resources to support a. For a to maintain social and cultural integrity society must support b. The hetero elements of c cannot be separated from the members of b, so encysting them is destructive to society. So, a portion is constructive, a portion is destructive. You can't do anything about the destructive portion because you can't safely identify them.
yedrow 1 year ago
Utter gibberish (you also dodged my question). No one will stop straight people from marrying or having kids, or devalue said institutions. Nothing will change for straight people, and gay people will finally be treated as full human beings by the law.
streetswell 1 year ago
@streetswell I answered you question directly, although my answer was plagued by typos. I'm guessing you didn't understand what I said. You can't allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good. Yes, there are NRC hetero couples. Yes, they are as destructive in their dead weight aspect to homosexual couples. But there is no way to identify them safely. So it is a partial solution where no complete solution exists, and some solution is necessary.
yedrow 1 year ago
@yedrow The folks who create ads like this do it for one reason: they hate gay people. The whole "marriage is about producing kids" argument is just camouflage. I'm not accusing you of being a homophobe, but I would encourage you to get to know gay couples raising kids. They're the same loving parents that straight couples are, and any suggestion to the contrary is just fearmongering put forth by the Taliban wing of the Republican Party.
streetswell 1 year ago
@streetswell They hate gay people? That is your argument? Considering the difficulty in proving motivations, can you prove that? Or, are you using this as an excuse to hate them?
I know Gay couples. That fact however is absolutely not necessary to have an opinion on the subject. I have an opinion about universal health care, though I'm not a doctor.
You don't understand the construct they believe they are protecting. It is the very foundation of civilization and you trivialize it.
yedrow 1 year ago
@streetswell I want you to very seriously consider this. Drop the bias, the jingoistic jingles, and think real hard about this: Family is the foundation of civilization. If family is destroyed, the civilization dies. Human beings mate in heterosexual pairs for a biological reason. The secondary structure 'family' as a construct is an expression of the soundness of that culture. Gay marriage can kill our culture.
Think not? What happened to the Mayans, the Romans, the Greeks, ad naueum?
yedrow 1 year ago
@yedrow They were all wiped out by other, invading civilizations. homosexuality had nothing to do with it and, to my knowledge, has never destroyed a civilization. You're being a tad hysterical here. I say again that including gay couples in the enjoyment of a basic human right only strengthens the notion of family.
streetswell 1 year ago
@streetswell Yes, but they were weakened. According to Zimmerman the family was weakened by the acceptance of child murder, the reduction of the rights of women through easy divorces, and non-reproductive homosexual vices.
We ourselves are dying. The Baby Boomers failed on all of those points, they aborted those who would have worked to provide for their old age, they divorced at the drop of a hat, and they engaged in recreational sex to the exclusion of reproduction. It really is that simple.
yedrow 1 year ago
@yedrow Every time you have had sex it was to procreate....never for fun or recreation? HYPOCRITE. And homosexuality is not a "Vice" it is a biological predisposition. If it was just a vice why would anyone CHOOSE to be ridiculed and excluded and shunned by a society of bible belters. God Transcends any written text about it. The fact that the bible is written in human language limits it as it is.
chandru1103 1 year ago
@chandru1103 That is called the Nirvana fallacy. No, I didn't every time. But, that is what sex is for and I was conscious of it every time, prepared for it every time. And, there is no urge in sex beyond procreation. The drive CAN be perverted, but it remains the drive. No one is biologically predisposed to be homosexual. They are behaviorally disposed. Why would anyone choose to die in a ditch from a drug overdose? Why do people commit adultery? Why do we kill each other with AIDS?
yedrow 1 year ago
Is your opinion based on religion in any way shape or form? Or any idealized view of humanity? Or just plain homophobia? If you answered YES then you have some fallacies of your own to cope with. And even if it was “perverted” as you say...how is that the homosexual’s fault? Exactly. It isn’t. What I think is that you conservatives can no longer call people negroes, so naturally homophobia is the last acceptable frontier of bigotry. But alas there is no point in arguing, consevs are dogmatic.
chandru1103 1 year ago
@chandru1103 The charge of homophobia is a censorship tactic. My opinion is valid based on its merits. You cling to the homophobia charge since there is no logic to your argument. Telling someone to be homosexual is the same as telling them to die, in a genetic, special perpetuation sense. Either humans are animals, in which case homosexuals are threats to the social unit, or humans are transcendent creatures, in which case the perversion of the reproductive act is an abuse. You lose either way.
yedrow 1 year ago
@yedrow Or there is a third. That homosexuality is a condition inherent within our species since it’s evolution. And that they are in someway responsible for population control A very important genetic purpose. One that would keep us from living past our means for a longer period of time. And seeing as it has been discovered in most mammal species, maybe it is used as a defense mechanism to conserve resources. And you never answered if your opinion was based on religion, which i find odd.
chandru1103 1 year ago
@chandru1103 My opinion is based both on empirical observation and religion.
There is no example of anal penetration in the animals. Anything less rigs the game to yield a preferred outcome.
Yes, it could be programed, but I find that unlikely. I strongly suspect that it is animal adaptability (at the extremes the system breaks down) that is compromised by the lack in humans of real instincts. However, I also think that aggressive homosexualization rituals are symptoms of a dying culture.
yedrow 1 year ago
@yedrow Well of course if everyone was homosexual, then yes a culture would die. But seeing as numbers are floating around 6-9% I don’t see that happening. No one who doesn’t feel attraction to the same sex will act homosexually under natural conditions, so it really is nothing to worry about. Allowing people to marry, adopt, accept death benefits, and visit hospital rooms is hardly going to take down any society. I think that the fundamentalist viewpoint is blowing it WAAAY out of proportion.
chandru1103 1 year ago
@chandru1103 You are leaning on a point in a graph that out of context is irrelevant. The numbers were once much lower, they are climbing, and same sex attraction is only one aspect of homosexuality. There is in fact no such a thing as homosexuality since sex is a reproductive process. There are reproductives and non-reproductives. The numbers of non-reproductives is growing and the population is diminishing. This fatal vulnerability is leading to attacks from several diverse fronts, globally.
yedrow 1 year ago
@yedrow Family is the foundation of civilization. If family is destroyed, the civilization dies. Human beings mate in heterosexual pairs for a biological reason. The secondary structure 'family' as a construct is an expression of the soundness of that culture. Gay marriage can kill our culture."
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"kill our culture"? LOL! What a crock!
You suggested a connection but did not support it beyond that. Silly don't you think.
BTW, heterosexuality was involved in ALL destruction of cultures LOL!
eVVVVV 1 year ago
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yedrow 1 year ago
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yedrow 1 year ago
That's such a bullshit statement from a dumb Nazi. If I said penguins live up my asshole over and over you think people will believe me?
thekiller678 2 years ago
Those pleading eyes they have bug me. They try to tug at your strings. Just by saying some one is lying doesn't mean they are lying. No one has facts and both sides are playing a game to win over as many dumb people as possible.
tornadostorm18 2 years ago
who knows. These fuckers could be lying themselves
ballsmohney 2 years ago
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ballsmohney 2 years ago
Brilliant! I hope this commercial airs in Iowa sometime SOON!!!
MacMorrighan 2 years ago
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also this ad mentions the millons that good decent christian ( mostly) people are spending to inform people of their opinion yet the devient community spend over 4 million compared 2 million for the people who support traditional values.
utubecenseorstruth 2 years ago
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looks like the good decent ( and typically very liberal) people of main decided that a marraige is between one man and one woman
utubecenseorstruth 2 years ago
They also decided to spell Maine with a E on the end..........
53% is hardly a victory.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
actually in a northeastern state 50% would have been a huge victory
utubecenseorstruth 2 years ago
100% would be more of a huge victory.......53% is more of a "up the credit limit on your Macy's charge card" because your gunna be buying wedding gifts for all your homo friends in just a few years.
clubindiana4 2 years ago
if the people change and decide they want to allow deviants to marry against the laws of God i do not agree with that but woudl accept that as the way our system works.
utubecenseorstruth 2 years ago
Numbers don't lie......gay marriage support has increased by 20+ % in less than two decades, with a majority of opposition in elderly votes. Gay marriage supporters are just a few harsh flue epidemics away from a majority.
clubindiana4 2 years ago 8
reality check: "abomination" is not sin but that is the word they chose to use in tranlsation, the "laws of God" were all written by men
masalanyc 2 years ago
@masalanyc it may have been written by man.but those words came from God. God told the great ones what to say how to live and how to take care of your self propely. he did not want a man and man to be with one another same with females. it is not the natural way of life. if you feel for God then you would know this.
jalaibilla 2 years ago
homosexuality is not deviant, it has been around since day 1 or year 1 (just a figure of speech). there are homosexuals throughout history and in religous texts - they have been shrouded and removed by clever interpretation - if a tree falls in the forest does anyone here it?
masalanyc 2 years ago
@masalanyc Our country was founded on the help of a homosexual man, during the war with Britain.
Tokorai 1 year ago
ROFL
masalanyc 2 years ago
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Keep it up, homos.
You're pissing off a sleeping giant.
tvflux 2 years ago
No arguments. No evidence.
Just repetitions. That is precisely what Goebbels used to do.
tvflux 2 years ago
Burden of proof, dumbass.
KingMichael 2 years ago
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This is one funny video.
One's mind has to be truly darkened not to see the hypocrisy.
All this video does is repeat a lie over and over again.
tvflux 2 years ago
I'm not gay but I found it funny when they say gay marriage will negatively affect any marriage between a man and a woman. I mean ... What the fuck ?
itskelvinkkc 2 years ago
Is this video a lie?
humpemanddumpem 2 years ago
Great video!!!! Keep up the good work for fairness and equality!!
MarkieWatch100 2 years ago 6
Marriage equality for all.... lifer liberty and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS
JoeyBoya 2 years ago
:) I agree. :)
Girlymanlyme 2 years ago
This needs to be fixed. ALL OVER THE USA!!! Soon some guy will get married in MA to another man, move to FL, where it's not recognized and be able to marry a woman while still married in another state!!!! Is this still one country???
muellerican 2 years ago
Holy crap, DON'T believe the lies. These people are right, if you listen to a lie long enough you begin to believe that it's true. This video is a prime example of it, no joke.
MrZaihushui 2 years ago
More truth was spoken in this 1:00 than NOM attempted to with millions of dollars and commercials spent. Losers.
Well done. 5 stars.
BohemianTonks89 2 years ago
that was a good add *claps*
LetsTalkSexTalk 2 years ago
A good majority of my friends (straight) are trying to their best NOT to get married and a lot of my friends that are gay are trying to get married. Anyone who wants to get into something as crazy as getting married, totally should have the right to. I mean c'mon, gays getting married? That would TOTALLY boost the economy! Imagine how over the top pimped out and expensive they would make it?
falconeyedtiger 2 years ago
most of my friends are married, maybe it depends on where u live
prestda1 2 years ago
heh heh... I guess that's another reason. :D
Girlymanlyme 2 years ago
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Gay marriage may go directly against my religious beliefs, but it's still a good commercial, and brought with tact. Stick to stuff like this and one day people might take you seriously.
xeroforhire 2 years ago
@xeroforhire You're welcome to have religious beliefs. However, I would urge you to think outside of those beliefs when determining the legal rights of those who don't follow them. We're all stuck in this world till we die, it would be nice if we could all enjoy life equally. =]
Tokorai 1 year ago
@Tokorai theological and cultural laws are very different. I'm sure you know that. One form of laws says "You can't be a part of our faction unless you adhere to the rules of our faction." while the other says "The get enough people to agree with you, and we'll change the rules." I believe that you're asking me to abandon my beliefs to accommodate yours. Isn't that considered intolerance? (just more politely worded)
xeroforhire 1 year ago
@xeroforhire Absolutely not, I'm not purposing that you change anything about your religious beliefs. The Ku Klux Klan could never be disassembled, they have the right to worship the idea of white supremacy, but they cannot legally act on racist views. This debate has nothing to do with personal beliefs, it's about legal protection.
In fact, whether you think gay marriage is right or wrong has no affect on my ability to marry some random Joe Blow. We just wouldn't have legal protection.
Tokorai 1 year ago
@Tokorai then what's the point of us debating? I filter my cultural beliefs through theology. In the same way, my theology doesn't oppose the standing laws. We disagree, no one is hurt (physically), and we go on living. I don't agree with a lot of stuff I have to put up with, but that doesn't me I have to support it either. we're going in circles.
xeroforhire 1 year ago
@xeroforhire There is no point for you to debate, you're not affected by this. The people that are affected are the people who travel out of state and suddenly find their marriage no longer recognized and protected. Not to mention the children of those couples, who are at risk of their parents' unstable legal protections, and also their parents' unstable custody. The state can swoop in and remove those children from their families if those parents lack the legal protection of a straight person.
Tokorai 1 year ago
Wow, even 3 year olds can post here!
6pigdek 2 years ago
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THIS WHOLE VIDEO IS A LIE
Avegadez 2 years ago
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Don't believe the lie that there is such a thing as same sex marriage. Same sex unions yes but marriage no. Marriage is a one flesh union between a man and a woman not a mimicry That the people with Same Sex Attachment Disorder are trying to promote. God is the source of true love between a man and a woman. Turn to God and renew your mind and be healed and restored. Don't be one of the SSAD people. Not good not bad just SSAD
eezyone 2 years ago
@eezyone You really need to take a step back and thinking about your actions. You're defining what marriage is, but the definition of a word, especially limited to the English language the U.S., is highly circumstantial. If you're simply talking about a idea and not a word, then that idea is very personal to you, and I believe it is immoral to enforce your personal belief on others, especially when the opposition to that belief doesn't actually HURT anyone.
Tokorai 1 year ago
@Tokorai Do you know that there is a God who created us with a purpose? Do you know what that purpose is? Do you know that same sex marriage is a misguided attempt to find happiness and a misguided understanding of love and marriage?
Generally humans are a mixture of good and evil and we can become very confused and be misled by lies and halftruths because we are so ignorant of God's love and truth. Same sex marriage is a corruption of love and that is very serious. More than you know.!!!
eezyone 1 year ago
@eezyone They live a lie? You're the one living your life by a storybook, following some invisible undetectable fairytale god. Homosexuals know what they're doing is right for them based on experience, it has happened in real life, that's the definition of a fact. You're just quoting the voice in your head. You have no reason, no evidence to back up what your thinking, it's just your faith.
You're welcome to waste your life in your imagination but don't make us do it, too.
Tokorai 1 year ago
@Tokorai You keep living your delusions and false beliefs. We all die and go to the spiritual world whether we are prepared or not. If your object of sexual desire is a person of the same gender you have an emotional and psychological and spiritual problem and you are misled and misinformed as to what is normal. Drug addicts, alcoholics and perverts think that they are doing right but in true love and happiness these things cause pain. Facts, you don't know the facts. Just sinful experience.
eezyone 1 year ago
@eezyone What are the facts then? What fact in life, in experience, do you have to suggest that homosexuality is an emotional, psychological or spiritual problem?
Tokorai 1 year ago
@Tokorai What you don't understand is that. People living is same sex marriages are living a lie and acting like it's normal. That's what makes it dangerous. They by there example are misleading youth and other impressionable people into perverted and confused thinking and behavior. They are hurting themselves and their spirits. In Truelove there is no sex between two men or two women. That is false love or distorted and confused love this corrupts those who practice it and society .
eezyone 1 year ago
Haha. The dude below (TheBasher100) is almost a parody of himself. "You smell like a monkey?!" I think the last time anyone tried to use that as a *serious* insult was in first grade! He's done a really good job of destroying the legitimacy of his own argument by demonstrating no capacity for rational discourse or thought. Put another way, his views are so extreme and his argument so unintelligent, if he's an example of those who oppose marriage equality, their movement is screwed! :-)
NickLovellPhoto 2 years ago 6
One last note... It would be my tactic to completely ignore anything this guy (Thebasher100) has to say from here on in. There's no productive discussion to be had, and he wants a reaction. He's going to try to piss people off, insult them, whip them up and try to get them to respond in a manner just as unintelligent, angry and crazy as he is. Don't give him the satisfaction. That'll only reward the behavior. Instead, ignore him completely. Just a suggestion. Tanks to all for watching!
NickLovellPhoto 2 years ago 6
*Thanks, I mean. ;-)
NickLovellPhoto 2 years ago 3
No, to the contrary. This is a very strong representation of himself. So incredibly afraid of anything outside of his finite little world that he can only revert to a childish & selfish tantrum! Unfortunately, there are too many who will listen to his venom. (This is what comes from a man & a woman!) LOL
6pigdek 2 years ago 3
I love your work, Nationforbigots! Keep it up!
Budmax305 2 years ago 6
Heh thanks, not my work though! It's made by some guy called Nick Lovell. It's my favorite entry to a competition - check out the descriptions and vote for it if you wish :)
Nationforbigots 2 years ago
Yeah, they started teaching it even though gay marriage was voted unconstitutional. So all the lies about "gay marriage means kids will be taught" goes out the window. Why? Because it happened anyway! It has nothing to do with gay marriage, but it has to do with what is happening in the world. THAT'S why kids are in school!
Budmax305 2 years ago 4
Really Awesome video!! :)
Worldofchange 2 years ago 4
Karma is a BITCH, bigots!
hamichael 2 years ago 5
Awesome video. Completely true. I hope all of these bigots get what they deserve.
AxonZin 2 years ago 3
Great video. Keep up the good work. Equality is coming :-) its gonna be a awesome day when it does.
bobby472 2 years ago 5
Really good work!!!
World is small, big changes are fast nowadays.
Thanks for sending this.
Gay marriage is okay, is it sooo difficult to get?
Buy a life if you´re not happy on yours but stop pushing against the river.
Congratulations and Peace,
Fernando,.
Argentina.-
fergalli 2 years ago 3
Wow! One of the best I've seen!
bearchewtoy75 2 years ago 3
Great video!!
CSMinistry 2 years ago 2
Brillaint
. More of that.
Vogter2100 2 years ago 3
brilliant video! very true!
NikiPaprika 2 years ago 3
Great video.
Skullener 2 years ago 3
"That the institution of marriage is threatened by gay marriage" is a big lie.
ShinobiBoi88 2 years ago 14
Correct! Replace gay with "Interracial" and you have how the whole marriage issue was 50+ years ago.
Zuul030 2 years ago 10
Great video, I never understood this argument taken by anti same sex marriage proponents.
Opsomaniac 2 years ago 7
that marriage has always been only between a man and a woman is a big lie
heatherlynblue 2 years ago 7
That Gays & Lesbiens love isnt as special and valuable as streight Americans is a big lie
depfox 2 years ago 13
Well done!
ConstantViewer 2 years ago 7
Excellent video. The world needs more of this.
TheAtheistSwede 2 years ago 10
Win! You always find the good videos.
ChelseaHysteria 2 years ago 7
Great video
phoo67 2 years ago 8