L'internationale

[quentin100]

Restons le poing levé

[supimbillyvon]

Socialism is the cancer to true communism. Reject statism. From Zizek: "Socialism is no longer to be conceived as the infamous 'lower phase' of communism, it is its true competitor, the greatest threat to it".

[Karlmarx64150]

Ne baissons pas les bras camardes.

[briantotse3]

@TranshumanCyborg

Socialism for the wealthy, Capitalism for the rest.

[onewhopwns]

CCCP

[Noobfromafar]

tell the oppressive capitalists that their Judgment Day has come.

[doverstraits]

and the people sing.

[chugaister]

La lucha continua!

[tyberzann378]

fascism and socialism are completely different. to say so would be ignorant of history and political science. Both are "populist" movements but fascism is based on racial and national populism that ignores class warfare, socialism instead is a international movement across racial lines for the progress of the working class and resistance to expliotation at the hands of the Bourgeois. Fascism works with private, corporate powers. Socialism seeks to eliminate those powers from the economy!

[rhodri24]

mussolini a socialist, r u smokin' crack?

[retireddeer]

Actually, that's how he started. He was in the Italian SP and was editor of their party organ, Avanti (Forward), until he was expelled for advocated Italian entry into WWI. Thereafter he started systematically hunting down socialists and communists. People did fight back, but in the end, the king basically gave him power.

[tomdj49]

Ronald Reagan was A Communist. But, members of the communist party said he wasn't good enough to be allowed in. Guess what happened next.

[iwanttobelieve]

J'ai beau avoir des idéaux communistes moi-même, j'suis persuadé que dans cette foule y a un beau paquet d'allumés.

[Ashkelll]

C'est drôle de voir tous ces gens manipulés par un idéal qui n'existera jamais.

[opbeni67]

tout simplement magnifique =), un jour nous vaincrons, il faut nous unnir tous ensemble, toute la gauche contre ce gouvernement capitaliste liberaliste !!

[yezhongbin]

At tiananment square the students sang internationale. Something a lot of people forget.

[irosdelavega]

Ça fait secte.

[kristidog]

this is wonderful to me

[Haidoor1987]

It is beautiful

[MarxBakuninMe]

Over 1 million people voted for the Communist Revolutionary League in 2007. France has a strong movement and now that the left have thrown off the shackles of Stalinism I see it getting bigger.

[Haidoor1987]

Stalinism is a cancer to true socialism.

[appledozeLeonTaz]

Amen, comrade!

[tyberzann378]

Liberty and freedom through socialism! Enough of this nonsense of free markets being liberating! All power to the Soviets!

[supremerat]

Oh please... that is 1917

[tyberzann378]

and the US constitution is 1787.

to suggest that the power belongs in the hands of democratic councils of labor is never out-dated.

[longlivetheloud2]

@Haidoor1987 No Stalinist believes in stalinism because he was a 'tyrant,' if you'd actually listen to them and stop putting so much trust in bourgeois western textbooks, you might actually learn something.

[Haidoor1987]

@longlivetheloud2 Stalin was a tyrant. Though that is a separate point. Second of all, I don't read 'text books'. I read academic and scholarly articles from a wide varitey of different schools of thought and disciplines. As well as focussing on primary sources of Soviet thinkers. Bukharins doctrine of socialism in one country, adopted by Stalin was a core step in ruining any chance of real socialism.

[suspect899]

Beautiful

[maciachin]

quel parti est ici?

[ergotrip]

Il s'agit de la clôture du meeting d'Arlette Laguiller au Zenith de Paris lors de la présidentielle de 2007... Très chaud dans la salle et les coeurs...

[chilam8668]

I love how everybody spends time arguing schemantics and all that shit instead of figuring out how to unite and overthrow capitalism. Seriously, all i've ever heard from the far left is a bunch of armchair revolutionary blabber about "armchair revolutionaries."Let's stop with the self righteous "we and only we are the vanguard" bullshit and work together!

[waw460]

My friend.

Do not think all leftists are like that because you only ever met ONE.

[Labirynt]

Actually I lived in a country full of leftists that created hell.

[waw460]

What country is that?

I wouldnt call a European country Hell; my friend.

[Labirynt]

Actually there were hellish countries but I think You are to young to remember that friend. And that is the problem with people like you.

[Faddman]

France. It's in french.

[waw460]

yah I know I was referring to his 'I lived in a country where leftists created hell'

[SpYTecH000]

Leftism will win. If you can't understand that, keep on right, fucking selfish.

[Labirynt]

No. You will not win because right is not on you side

[spbats]

Whether or not Marx was a racist is irrelevant, this has nothing to do with his theories or modern socialist thinking.

[Labirynt]

I think that people in North Korea will disagree with You... besides - we don't know what will happen in the future. Marx legacy is full of violence, racism and antisemitism.

[spbats]

You can't speak for me or any socialist. We speak for ourselves, you understand? If we are racists, we will say we are. The reality is that civil rights movements all over the world were organized by the far left. Equality of not just economy, but of all social groups has been the core goal of leftists for a very long time now. While some groups have tried to do bad things in our name, our mainstream encompasses all races and represents them equally.

[Labirynt]

Your ideology has nothing to do with freedom or equality. It is just another form of brutal control. You say that "You speak for yourselves". And North Koreans consider themselves socialists. You don't like that? Stop them - go to North Korea - STOP THEM. Defend "Equality" and good name of your ideology. But I know you wont do that. Supporting this kind of regimes is in your blood - especially when they consider themselves socialist. Your way of thinking... Tell me is Osama Bin Laden a Muslim?

[Labirynt]

>>>>You can't speak for me or any socialist. We speak for ourselves, you understand?

I don't give a damn about your opinion. I think that history will be the judge... Body count - 100.000.000 and counting.

[mkrwii]

Oh yeah. Count the bodys of capitalism. The estimates I've seen of that are 50 mill higher than those murders you blame me(!) for..

Shut up, and get youself a fair dose of reality before you start hailing neoliberalism and imperialism.

[Labirynt]

I'm not hailing anything. I'm just saying that Your ideology is poison. It is based on lies, hatred and intolerance. And people like You are close to become criminals by supporting it.

[waw460]

Oh please.

Get over your american socialistophobia.

Socialism DOES NOT EQUAL Mao, Stalin, N-Korea or Hitler. For Christ sake man.

[Labirynt]

I live in Europe.

[spbats]

Thanks, bro.

Yeah, folks you can't convince me I'm a racist, you can't convince me that mainstream socialists are racists, because the facts say otherwise. If you capitalists want to assume guilt for the actions of Benito Mussilini who was a fascist capitalist responsible for the deaths of millions, then maybe you can pretend I am allied in any way with Stalin. Otherwise, don't put words in our mouths, yeah?

[Labirynt]

Mussolini was the editor of the Socialist Party newspaper. He was a member of Italy's (Marxist) Socialist Party.

[spbats]

Wrong, though Mussolini insisted again and again that he was a socialist, Italian fascism is a heresy of socialism which shares more in common with capitalism in regards to control workers under the system have over society and what caused social conditions such as war and poverty. The ruling clique in Italy functioned jointly as an economic monopoly that employed the populous and a totalitarian empire with no oversight.

[Labirynt]

There was nothing wrong in my statement. Mussolini was a member of Italy's Socialist Party. Racism, antisemitism, opression - he learned how to hate others because they were diffrent. Socialism was his first step in crime.

Control over workers (over everything) is charachteristic for Your ideology. Every single communist state empowerd a brutal form of control.

[waw460]

WHAT!

THAT IS BULLCRAP!

Mussolini wrote in his book 'Fascism' that fascism is the direct opposite of socialism. You can check that if you want.

Fascists gained votes because the elite feared communism and fascism hated communism.

[Labirynt]

Mussolini was a member of Italy's Socialist Party. That is a fact.

[RedNickD]

Mussolini was an ex-socialist. He renounced socialism in The Doctrine of Fascism.

[Labirynt]

Criminal Doctrine of Fascism was created on the base of socialistic intolerance.

Even Nazism incorporated some elements from the political left.

[leradicieleali]

mussolini was a part of the socialist party before being expelled because of his support to the intervention of italy in the first world war

y the same way we could say that stalin was a christian because he studied in a school for priests (sorry, in this moment i can't get to mind what's the right translation for "seminario")

[Labirynt]

Then tell me where Stallin was imposing christian doctrine during his rule?

Mussolini enforced goverment control over every single independent institution in Italy. That is exatcly what socialism is all about.

[leradicieleali]

stalin never imposed the crhistian doctrine just like mussolini never imposed socialism!

mussolini led a FASCIST state, the capitalist forces were allied with him, in fact, the fascist regime died when, facing the failure of the war, the captialist forces withdrawed their support

socialism is far away from being only the control of the state over institutions, socialism is the control of a state ruled by the working class.

if not, we could argue that even colbert was a socialist!

[Labirynt]

Mussolini was a socialist and all evil of socialism was imposed in fascist doctrine - control, intolerance, hatred and so on.

Fascist/Nazis and Communists (Soviet Union) were allies during first years of WW2.

Socialism means brainwashing people and enslaving one group by another. Control is control.

[leradicieleali]

come on on mussolini's own words fascism was the opposite of socialism, right before the second world war the soviet union e and tha fascisr/nazis clashed during the spanish civil war, when the so called "liberal regimes" let franco overthrown the republic.

the molotov ribbentrop agreement was not an alliance, indeed it was a way to gain the time to rebuild the sovietic army and to be prepared to face the nazis invasion.

[spbats]

LOL

The USSR was the ally of the United States and Brittian versus the Nazis.

Furthermore, Trotskyists like these are very critical of the way the USSR was run and would do it differently.

[Labirynt]

Not before Hitler invaded USSR. Soviet Union and Third Riech cooperated and invaded Poland.

[yurapetrovich]

Hi, I doubt that you are a racist, or that mainstream socialists are racists, but Mussolini was, in fact, a socialist. Note the tariffs and protectionist policies, the "batlle for the green", the creation of state-owned businesses and the nationalization of industries. Whereas, a free-market capitalist would have sold all of the government's shares that could be held by private industry. Mussolini talked about the failed socialism (ie revolution) but not of the general theory.

[leradicieleali]

please, don't tell that mussolini was a socialist

it is an offence to the memory of gramsci and matteotti

mussolini was a fascist, the difference should be quite clear. on a side you have socialists that says that the social classes must clash, on the other side you have fascists saying tha the social claasses must cooperate for the rise of the nation....

[yurapetrovich]

Thats, in fact, untrue. Socialism, as defined in Webster's, is, "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole."

I agree, Mussolini was a fascist - but that does not oppose him being a socialist (as was Hitler).

[leradicieleali]

but under the fascist regime the control of the means of production was not under the control of the state!

the big industries in the north ere still owned by the capitalist families, the land in the south was still owned by the mafia bosses and so on

indeed, webste's definition is right, but it is related only to the political superstructure, i'm saying that the economic base in the fascist italy was far from being socialist, as economy was led by bourgeoisie

[Labirynt]

It was a natural trend that in 20's part of socialist movement became a Fascist/National-Socialistic force.

I don't care about who was leading (ANYONE at that time could become a fascist - rich or poor as long as he was Italian/German) the fact is that People who were socialists became fascists and enforced socialist doctrine of goverment.

[soakchips]

You ignore a very simple fact: capitalism (private ownership of industry) was alive and well under Hitler and Mussolini. I'm sorry to break it to you, but Hitler and Mussolini were Keynesians. Furthermore, capitalists were the main source of funding for fascist parties from the very beginning.

[rhodri24]

socialists, as far as im aware dont advocate exploitation, such as the jewish slave labour for I.G.Farben at auschwitz-birkenau

[Labirynt]

Yeah and Gulags in Soviet Union/China/Korea etc. were build by Aliens.

[rhodri24]

OK fair point, but the difference between socialism and fascism is the difference between "fuhrerprincip" and "soviet commitee". but thats theory.

the outcome is pretty much the same.

[Labirynt]

That is why I'm not interested in theory.

[waw460]

Cicero was antisemite.

Luther was.

Does that make any difference for their work?

[Labirynt]

Yes

[waw460]

Finally someone with common sense.

[Skoblarps]

voilà des vidéos que j'ai faite (3), ce sont des chants révolutionnaires, je vais continuer à en faire, tapez, "le front ouvrier", "la varsovienne", "l'appel du komintern" sur youtube

[k56bzh]

vive olivier besancenot!

[hgytjfk]

putain de gauchiste assasins de la france

[georgeclownait]

L'humanité a déjà goûté au système soviétique sans grand succés. Alors il faut réinventer la nouvelle gauche ! Que pensez-vous d'une "monarchie-sociale". Un roi pour le peuple, qui défend le peuple et qui n'est pas l'ami des bobos (neo-bourgeois). Parce que le souverain, né, déjà riche et célèbre à vie, n'aura aucun intérêt à la compétition. Le souverain, Prince Louis XX de Bourbon, aurait uniquement a se préoccuper du bonheur du peuple ! Vive le roi socialiste !

[Dondinin]

C'est ce qui nous manquait..je m'inclinerais volontiers à croire que tu blagues...

[leradicieleali]

Beautiful!

[MJTarik]

Communism is not like in the time of the cold war. Communism has never really existed. Just misrepresentaions of the real communist ideal. Great thinkers like Bakounine, Nietzche, Lenine, Marx, Trotsky, Marti are more or less from real communist idea. Bases on equalty of humans, non religious state, free thinking

[SuperChibbou]

Prolétaires de tous les pays, unissez-vous !

[aiponet]

lunga vita al comunismo

[Labirynt]

Communism is responsible for killing 100.000.000 people. You should be ashamed of yourselves!!!!!!!!!

[kitho1995]

democracy or the Republic kills more then communism, how many does the republic kill during the french revolution? how many does the americans kill during the vietnam war and korean war????????????

[Labirynt]

That doesn't change a thing. You are supporting bloody ideology. And worst of all... YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!

[CommunistBrother]

HEY fuckface,

Communism was far from killing 100 million people, fucking capitalism in america killed more lives, you dont know what your talking about fucknut, instead of making up numbers go read a text book anytext book communism is far from killing 100 million ppl

ONWARDS WITH COMMUNO-SOCIALISM

[Labirynt]

I'm sorry but that's the truth. YOUR ideology is as evil as nazizm. Millions persecuted, tortured, starved to death and murdered in concentration camps (gulags).

If you don't belive me then go to North Korea.

[CommunistBrother]

What do you know about Gulags? What do you know about death and starvation? You make up numbers, North Korea is not Communist they are Facist they stain the communist ideal, i despise them but dont ever say that communism is close to nazism.

[CommunistBrother]

Nazism implies hatred, fanatism, and racism communism never did that, and maybe they did mistakes that lead up to millions of deaths, maybe but doesnt every1 do mistakes? 100 million people, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

[CommunistBrother]

Famines were not intentional they were mistakes, and natural disasters. Communism has not killed 100 million people, and the communists were far from being evil. WE WANT A BETTER WORLD. we never killed millions intentionally, we never killed to annihilate a race. Famine caused death but we want the good of the people.

[Labirynt]

>>>>What do you know about Gulags? What do you know about death and starvation?

I was born and raised in a Communist country. And I tell You. It was first time in history of my country that people commited crimes on massive scale. 80.000 of my countrymen were put to Gulags only because they had right wing views, belived in God, freedom of speech etc. I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YOU DON'T. But that's the problem with people in France.

[Labirynt]

>>>>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

About crimes of YOUR ideology.

>>>>Famines were not intentional they were mistakes, and natural disasters.

YOUR IDEOLOGY IS ONE BIG MISTAKE!!!! It's like cancer. It shouldn't exist. Communists promised new better world without starvation. And what did we get?

[Labirynt]

>>>>WE WANT A BETTER WORLD

No. You want to be gods of this new world. You are trying to create utopia without certain people. You hate culture, tradition, religion even rich people. You want to ERADICATE our civilization.

>>>>but we want the good of the people.

Hitler wanted that also.

[CommunistBrother]

WHat??? hahahaha we hate culture? we hate tradition? Read Marx, an then talk. You got Mao, Stalin, Pol pot, and all those killers backwards with lenin trostky marx, liu shao qi, and ho chi min.

[CommunistBrother]

what did WE get stop talking like you lived in a communist country, your fucking 19.

[CommunistBrother]

YEA?? Oh yea? Well mister i come from portugal a communist country is speaking now. Why dont you stop lieing and tell use your true identity

[CommunistBrother]

Yea? the problem with french ppl? Oh, so now youve been beaten back so far you need to refer to nationality, youre loosing ground so your using racism to try get you back up? France. What? you think making a racist generalization will disuade me and make you winner? Fuck you, but not portugual because thank god communists arnt rascist like capitalists

[Labirynt]

I live and work in Portugal but I was born and grew up in a Communist country.

[Labirynt]

You know nothing about Marx. This god of yours embrased terror, racism, antisemitism and slavery.

Your god said:

"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror"

[Labirynt]

Your god:

"What is the worldly raison d'etre of Jewry [Judaism]? The practical necessity of Jewry is self-interest."

"What is the worldly religion of the Jews? It is the petty haggling of the hawker."

"What is his worldly God?" "It is money."

[Labirynt]

Your god:

"So in Jewry we recognise a contemporary universal anti-social phenomenon, which has reached its present pitch through a process of, historical development in which the Jews have zealously co-operated. And this evil anti-social aspect of Jewry has grown to a stage at which: it must necessarily collapse."

[Labirynt]

More quotes from Karl Marx:

"The Jews have emancipated themselves in a Jewish fashion. Not only have they mastered the; power of money but - with or without the Jews - money has become a world power. The Jews have emancipated themselves by turning Christians into Jews:"

[saronson93]

Marx himself was born Jewish, and his daughter Elanor Marx was a practicing Jew. Your allegations are rediculous.

[Labirynt]

As a boy Marx realised that he was different from his fellows. He had been baptised, but he was "a Jew by race" and suffered from the anti-Semitism prevalent in Germany in his day. His reaction to the situation was an extraordinary one. He ranged himself with the anti-Semites and denounced his own people in a most violent fashion.

[Labirynt]

Marx and racism:

"It is now perfectly clear to me that, as the shape of his head and the growth of his hair indicate, he is descended from the negroes who joined in the flight of Moses from Egypt (unless his mother or grandmother on the father's side was crossed with a nigger). Now this union of Jewishness to Germanness on a negro basis was bound to produce an extraordinary hybrid. The importunity of the fellow is also niggerlike.

[Labirynt]

Marx saw something good in slavery:

"As for slavery, there is no need for me to speak of its bad aspects. The only thing requiring explanation is the good side of slavery (sic!)...

[Labirynt]

I do not mean indirect slavery, the slavery of proletariat; I mean direct slavery, the slavery of the Blacks in Surinam, in Brazil, in the southern regions of North America. Direct slavery is as much the pivot upon which our present-day industrialism turns as are machinery, credit, etc. ... Slavery is therefore an economic category of paramount importance."

[plrm14]

"Labor cannot emancipate itself in the white skin where in the black it is branded." Marx, Capital Vol. I, page 329.

You are a fool.

[plrm14]

Marx opposed slavery and racism. He supported the Union in the US civil war. Tribune,, October 11, 1861. Reprinted in Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, The Civil War in the United States, New York, International Publishers, 1961. You are intellectually dishonest. Provide your references.

[Labirynt]

Marx to Engels, 30 July 1862, in Marx-Engels Gesamtausgabe , Part iii. Vol. 3, pp. 82-84. On Marx as "at once a racialist himself and the cause of racialism in others", see George Watson, The English Ideology (1973), p. 211.

[plrm14]

As I said you are a fool. Marx was not a racist.

[Labirynt]

There is nothing wrong in being described as a "fool", by a zealous supporter of bloody ideology.

[Ahweb]

Both my philosophy and history professors said so. And they are not against communism.

[Labirynt]

Marx an racism:

Letter to Pavel Vasilyevich Annenkov, December 28, 1846

[Labirynt]

Sorry... That is slavery

[Labirynt]

BTW ENGELS WAS NO BETTER:

"... only by the most determined use of terror against these Slav peoples can we [Germans], jointly with the Poles and Magyars, safeguard the revolution... there will be a struggle, an 'inexorable life-and-death struggle,' against those Slavs who betray the revolution; an annihilating fight and ruthless terror - not in the interests of Germany, but in the interests of the revolution!"

"Democratic Pan-Slavism, Cont.," Neue Rheinische Zeitung, February 16, 1849

[Labirynt]

Letter from Engels to Marx, October 2, 1866:

"I have arrived at the conviction that there is nothing to his [Tremaux's] theory if for no other reason than because he neither understands geology nor is capable of the most ordinary literary historical criticism. One could laugh oneself sick about his stories of the nigger Santa Maria and of the transmutations of the whites into Negroes.

[Labirynt]

---->Especially, that the traditions of the Senegal niggers deserve absolute credulity, just because the rascals cannot write! . . . Perhaps this man will prove in the second volume, how he explains the fact, that we Rhinelanders have not long ago turned into idiots and niggers on our own Devonian Transition rocks . . . Or perhaps he will maintain that we are real niggers."

[brianchallenger]

Brings tears to my eyes....not really but it is cool

[dave71us]

we used to sing it after dinner to frighten the upstairs neighbors...

[ww2fan39]

I want to preform this song.

[Zingu00]

Workers of all nations, unite!

[tyglio]

W IL FASCISMO W IL COMUNISMO

[tyglio]

W IL SOCIALISMO DI MUSSOLINI

[flouzer777]

La terre n'appartient qu'aux hommes

L'oisif ira loger ailleurs

[LittleSkies]

J'y étais aussi ^^ Super meeting, avec une ambiance inoubliable.

Solidarité communiste internationale !

[tylerramsey]

Soufflons nous-mêmes notre forge!

[Captainsmile]

Quel moment émouvant! J'aurais tant aimé y être.

Entendre l'Internationale entonnée par des centaines de gens comme ça, ca doit vraiment donner la chair de poule.

Continuez la lutte, Camarades!

[revelodrive]

Pourquoi ils murmurent sur ta vidéo ? :p Pourtant, j'y étais aussi...

[hommechauvesouris]

C'est la lutte Finale!!