1776 - The Vote (1972)

[akser360]

New York abstains, courteously.

[AntonBatey]

3:58-4:08 always gets me. The passion that is in the face of John Adams and the anger in his voice that the souls of 500,000 humans had to be sacrificed at the alter of Independence, and the way he says, “now VOTE, damn you”. It always gives me goosebumps.

[agatematt]

In one of the those coincidences which makes history so interesting, both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on the same day --- July 4, 1826 --- the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. If that wasn't enough, Charles Carroll of Carollton --- the youngest delegate and the only Catholic to sign the Declaration --- died on July 4, 1832.

[DocMEDICK]

Great Movie; James Wilson was a hero, yet they all were.

[hellofaname]

where Cartmen?

[Anamar221]

Now that he said his name everyone will remember it

[jrs689]

1:50 to 4:15. Over 600,000 American lives doomed.

[EpicManiaFilms]

did anyone noticed the white "1" that appeared @ 1:31? Delaware was the first state.

[unclepatrick2]

Jame WIlson was in real life a suporter of Liberty. He serve two term in the Congress, and latter attended the Costitutional Convention. Under Washington, He serve as a Associated Justice on the first US Surpreme Court. Jefferson thought that WIlson was one of the most learned Men he knew. This play treats him badly.

[maoutsaou]

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

[dkupke]

I consider this a pretty realistic scene. I can't help but imagine that all of them must have just felt astonished at what they were doing.

[ajshim]

I can't describe just how much this scene hits me as both a human and an American. I can't imagine the pressure these men must have gone through.

[BrooksOfficial]

I so want to do this play.

[ZobiProductions]

I'm going to be James Wilson :D we're doing 1776 for our school play :)

[HungerGames24]

5:09, 5:10, and 7:23

[HungerGames24]

4:33 school prject

[metacosmos]

The best of this movie is when John Adams says on the first sketch by Jefferson of the Declaration of Independence that it is a blunder.

[HungerGames24]

0:56 for Mass.

[dcbandnerd]

3:02

Well actually, Mr. Franklin, yes. Yes they will, at least the ones who don't know a lick about history.

[Divaratrika]

what Wilspn's thinking: Its no pressure i mean its ONLY the fate of my country?*twitches*

[fairiegirl2992]

"No one will remember James Wilson." yet we do james. And we thank you for it.

[jshark70]

@fairiegirl2992 Indeed and well said. I wonder if he actually thought that way. I never found anything (book or document or otherwise) that indicates this is truly accurate.

[mkworkman]

[Text] "Resolved, That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved. That it is expedient forthwith..." [Passed 2 July 1776]

[mkworkman]

The second day of July 1776 will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever more. ~Adams

[PeterFormaini]

"That;s probably true, but we won;t hear thing - we'll be long gone....."

:D

[victori23]

This is my favorite scene!

[dasyization]

I love Dickinson and Adams !

[Pfisiar22]

This film doesn't really do John Dickinson much credit. Refused to sign the declaration, it is true, but Dickinson served in the continental army and accquited himself admirably. Not only that, but he created the comprimise that went on to save the Constitution doring the convention of 1789.

John Dickinson, a true patriot.

[XelonTheHunter]

@Pfisiar22 I like to believe that is why the final scene with Dickinson is there, he says he'll serve his nation because he cares about it just as much as Adams does, and that is why Adams sets aside his hatred for him and has the congress applaud him.

[scottds60]

@Pfisiar22 I don't disagree with you about Dickinson being a true patriot. But while Dickinson played a significant role in the Constitutional Convention and afterward in supporting the new Constitution, it was Roger Sherman and Olliver Ellsworth of Connecticut who actually came up with the compromise (known as the Great Compromise).

[AskMrScience]

You have to wonder if Benjamin Franklin played himself as well as Howard DaSilva plays him.

[RMNhobie]

@AskMrScience (heh) Thanks - you make a good point. ;)

[gwr5d]

@RMNhobie I told my BF to make sure the hotel we are staying at has BBC television. He laughed and said "Something is wrong with that request. Our forefathers fought to be separate from England, they'd roll over in their graves knowing British tv is being transmitted to the very location they fought so hard to be separate from."

[Louisa1789]

While I am for independence, but poor Dickinson, ... he believed that Wilson would vote against independence ...

[Wyrmwould]

I consider myself a liberal/progressive thinker. I acknowledge the shortcomings and errors America has made in its relatively short history. But I am also a patriot and things like this still choke me up when I see them. Yes, America is imperfect, but I love her and believe in the ideals for which these men strived.

[Hiraghm]

@Wyrmwould - you cannot be a progressive and believe in the ideals for which these men strove.

They strove for a nation based upon individual liberty, not upon majority rule, not upon group grievances and politics. They were self-reliant men who believed in the sovereignty of the individual. Progressives wish to shackle the productive to the indolent for their mutual enslavement.

[MrBENTONVILLE1]

@Hiraghm

I strongly disagree with that statement. As a progressive I believe strongly in the Republic and its promise of Equality and Liberty. I believe in self reliance, but I dont deny help to those who need it and im not afraid to ask for it if I require it. It is my liberty to believe what I believe and I believe it is wrong to say progressives believe any less in these great men than non progressives.

[kcufmalsi]

@Wyrmwould You're right. America isn't perfect but she comes damn close.

[jeffy12]

@Wyrmwould Ron Paul 2012

[jeffy12]

@Wyrmwould Liberty or Tyranny, there is no middle ground

[M0NiiCHAN]

Thanks ; this helped on my test !!!!:)

[RMNhobie]

@M0NiiCHAN Cool - you're welcome. :)

[gwr5d]

@RMNhobie Ironic: BF and I are going to Philadelphia today, going to tour Independence Hall. Even though I've lived only 20 minutes away my entire life, this musical is the closest I've come to IH.

[dasyization]

This is my favorite movie I love John Adams . Dickinson is sooo cute and fuuny he is my favorite charitctar in the movie , I also like Hancock Jeeferson and James Wilson.