Funny how he can babble on endlessly when he's not talking with Dr. Brown, but when he is he sounds like an intellectual midget. and by the way, he's not Jewish he's a Hispanic convert to Judaism.
To tonytiger75: I saw the 'debate' entirely differently. I saw Brown as trying to intimidate the rabbi by being a 'know-it-all' ("for our listeners, maimonides lived from 1125 to 1204"). However, weak arguments are still weak arguments. He quotes Rambam as if the Rambam is even relevant to the discussion- for a 'sola scriptura' guy, he sure relies on the rabbis a lot. I am also unconvinced by his repeated assertion that 'eternal' somehow means 'not eternal.'
tonytiger75: And as a second point, Brown surely knows that the vast majority of even Christian scholars see the NT geneaology not as a literal geneaology, but as a theological creation aimed at giving Jesus the ancestry necessary to be the messiah, as a way of boosting his messianic credentials. Same goes for his supposed birth in Bethlehem. Among scholarship, these are not even debated points anymore. Don't believe me- see for yourself (along with the other 'proof texts').
Why do u always bounce around in your chair like that? R U OK? Seriously, always avoiding the camera, looks like GOD put a spirit of doubt in u. Because, your always trying to disprove someone. Just as the "TRUE LORD' JESUS(Yeshua Messiach) CHRIST OF NAZARETH SAID. Rev 2:9 A synagogue of satan, always in opposition like an "enemy" which is what satan is an enemy of El Shaddai the GOD of Abram, Isaac, & Jacob. "Let those who have ears 2 hear,listen" steer away from this satanic liar. SHALOM!!!!1
Why didn't you disprove Dr. Brown when you were on the phone live in your debate. I'm ready for debate number two. Please do a full debate one on one in person.
@melbourneopera The gnostic christian church predates the one that arose with constantine and it evolved from earlier forms of hellenistic pagan beliefs; she was gods{ demiurge}wife , she as a virgin bears jesus, she later becomes Mary, and becomes a martyr 137AD and again 304AD as does her daughters faith, hope, and charity 1 Cor 13:13 You can even look it all up in the Catholic Encyclopedia; She is celebrated yet to this day with I do believe it is called all saints day.
May I ask, since you say Sophia is wisdom which is a deity from gnostism, you wouldn't go to tell me that the wisdom that King Solomon(Solomo) asked for God to rule the kingdom is the same thing since the wisdom he asked is not even a deity, and why do you guys treat the book of "wisdom of Solomon" is the Deuteronomy but not protocanon since there is an original Hebrew text?
@melbourneopera I hate to disappoint you, however; the origins of christianity and the NT are every bit pagan, the Greek words that it was written in are pagan, and are derived from pagan deities.
KabbaneThechristian blocks me mid debate, when he realizes the veracity of his mendacity. I never said Faith Hope and Charity were gods; { 1 cor 13:13 I said they were the daughters of Sophia { wisdom in the NT } He also tried to claim wisdom in Proverbs 8 is Sophia, again he is patently false the Hebrew word for wisdom in Proverbs 8 is חכמה not Sophia, he then quotes Luke 11 and digs a deeper hole, Sophia is described as the holy spirit in the trinity in the 1st CE christian church.
Another interesting point that could be added to this vid is the fact that nearly everyone agrees within the christian and non christian circles is that Luke...was a Gentile Christian not Jewish/christian. This would easily explain how he would have no problem with changing or mistaking Geneologies and certain facts.
After being on both sides, I can vouch that your statement that "the problem is preconceived notions" is absolutely, 100% correct.. I hope this video will encourage honest questions from xians.
Christianity is a deception. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Christianity stole the scriptures, distorted them with mistranslations, misinterpretations, and false teachings and used these distortions against the Jews to vilify, demonize and humiliate the Jews and Judaism and to justify Christianity. "Judaizers" who believed in keeping the law were ostracized.
Who would want to believe in a religion based on lies and false teachings, complete with pagan holidays??
It actually wasn't those Jews who continued to keep the Law that were considered heretical. It was those who considered it a requirement for Gentile Christians to keep the Law. My response to geoasher is completed. It will be released as soon as I find time to produce a video.
@wisdomtruthpeace So some people miss use Christianity to hurt Jews, ya it's happened, but not everyone has done that. The USA has been the friendliest country to the Jew in the history of the world not in spite of Christianity but because of it. That's Rabbi Daniel Lapin who says that, he's a far greater Rabbi than this Hispanic pretender.
@tonytiger75 you completely missed the point of my comment. perhaps you have been eating/smoking too many frosted flakes, in which case that would be understandable indeed. try something healthier maybe.
Rabbi Meza, keep teaching the truth. They just don't understand. As a matter of fact, they don't want to understand. Christianity is a Roman religion. It was created by the Romans with the intent to deceive to gain power. If Christians ever took time to study with Jews, they would leave their religion. There are too many errors in their bibles and they don't even realize it.
@caribijew1 the only reason there are jews who dont accept jesus is bc jesus made everybody equal and typical prideful types want to think theyre the 'special' ones.
Jesus te ama!!!! Ya cambiaaa!!
AndrzBz 3 weeks ago
really great shiur! i am in the middle of a series of (private) debates with a (gentile) messianic. i find this very helpful
avivai6 1 month ago
Mishpucka, Psalms 10:4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek [after God]: God [is] not in all his thoughts.
MsOmeGa29 1 month ago
Funny how he can babble on endlessly when he's not talking with Dr. Brown, but when he is he sounds like an intellectual midget. and by the way, he's not Jewish he's a Hispanic convert to Judaism.
tonytiger75 2 months ago
To tonytiger75: I saw the 'debate' entirely differently. I saw Brown as trying to intimidate the rabbi by being a 'know-it-all' ("for our listeners, maimonides lived from 1125 to 1204"). However, weak arguments are still weak arguments. He quotes Rambam as if the Rambam is even relevant to the discussion- for a 'sola scriptura' guy, he sure relies on the rabbis a lot. I am also unconvinced by his repeated assertion that 'eternal' somehow means 'not eternal.'
riltee 2 months ago
tonytiger75: And as a second point, Brown surely knows that the vast majority of even Christian scholars see the NT geneaology not as a literal geneaology, but as a theological creation aimed at giving Jesus the ancestry necessary to be the messiah, as a way of boosting his messianic credentials. Same goes for his supposed birth in Bethlehem. Among scholarship, these are not even debated points anymore. Don't believe me- see for yourself (along with the other 'proof texts').
riltee 2 months ago
Why do u always bounce around in your chair like that? R U OK? Seriously, always avoiding the camera, looks like GOD put a spirit of doubt in u. Because, your always trying to disprove someone. Just as the "TRUE LORD' JESUS(Yeshua Messiach) CHRIST OF NAZARETH SAID. Rev 2:9 A synagogue of satan, always in opposition like an "enemy" which is what satan is an enemy of El Shaddai the GOD of Abram, Isaac, & Jacob. "Let those who have ears 2 hear,listen" steer away from this satanic liar. SHALOM!!!!1
MessengerOfTruth27 3 months ago
Why didn't you disprove Dr. Brown when you were on the phone live in your debate. I'm ready for debate number two. Please do a full debate one on one in person.
brotherbanks 3 months ago 3
Isn't Sophia is the gnostic god that the Christians most thrilling with when they preach the gospel to the nations?
melbourneopera 3 months ago
@melbourneopera The gnostic christian church predates the one that arose with constantine and it evolved from earlier forms of hellenistic pagan beliefs; she was gods{ demiurge}wife , she as a virgin bears jesus, she later becomes Mary, and becomes a martyr 137AD and again 304AD as does her daughters faith, hope, and charity 1 Cor 13:13 You can even look it all up in the Catholic Encyclopedia; She is celebrated yet to this day with I do believe it is called all saints day.
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May I ask, since you say Sophia is wisdom which is a deity from gnostism, you wouldn't go to tell me that the wisdom that King Solomon(Solomo) asked for God to rule the kingdom is the same thing since the wisdom he asked is not even a deity, and why do you guys treat the book of "wisdom of Solomon" is the Deuteronomy but not protocanon since there is an original Hebrew text?
melbourneopera 3 months ago
@melbourneopera I am not sure what you are asking here.
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You can't use Pagan beliefs to interpret the NT even though the man is a very special birth, just like Adam
melbourneopera 3 months ago
@melbourneopera I hate to disappoint you, however; the origins of christianity and the NT are every bit pagan, the Greek words that it was written in are pagan, and are derived from pagan deities.
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tonytiger75 2 months ago
@tonytiger75 Pagan; A polytheistic religion.
If you are anything other then Jewish you are pagan.
The NT doesn't have squat to do with the Jewish Bible.
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tonytiger75 2 months ago
KabbaneThechristian blocks me mid debate, when he realizes the veracity of his mendacity. I never said Faith Hope and Charity were gods; { 1 cor 13:13 I said they were the daughters of Sophia { wisdom in the NT } He also tried to claim wisdom in Proverbs 8 is Sophia, again he is patently false the Hebrew word for wisdom in Proverbs 8 is חכמה not Sophia, he then quotes Luke 11 and digs a deeper hole, Sophia is described as the holy spirit in the trinity in the 1st CE christian church.
1daewoo888 3 months ago
My response here:
/watch?v=TCphSnAv6Js
KabaneTheChristian 4 months ago
Kabane has responded to this video.
Mkvine 4 months ago
Another interesting point that could be added to this vid is the fact that nearly everyone agrees within the christian and non christian circles is that Luke...was a Gentile Christian not Jewish/christian. This would easily explain how he would have no problem with changing or mistaking Geneologies and certain facts.
s76yu 4 months ago
After being on both sides, I can vouch that your statement that "the problem is preconceived notions" is absolutely, 100% correct.. I hope this video will encourage honest questions from xians.
BornInTzyon 4 months ago
Amazing video, as always you come hard with the scriptural references and bring the truth to light.
hannibalchengthe2nd 4 months ago
Christianity is a deception. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Christianity stole the scriptures, distorted them with mistranslations, misinterpretations, and false teachings and used these distortions against the Jews to vilify, demonize and humiliate the Jews and Judaism and to justify Christianity. "Judaizers" who believed in keeping the law were ostracized.
Who would want to believe in a religion based on lies and false teachings, complete with pagan holidays??
wisdomtruthpeace 4 months ago 7
@wisdomtruthpeace
It actually wasn't those Jews who continued to keep the Law that were considered heretical. It was those who considered it a requirement for Gentile Christians to keep the Law. My response to geoasher is completed. It will be released as soon as I find time to produce a video.
KabaneTheChristian 4 months ago
@wisdomtruthpeace So some people miss use Christianity to hurt Jews, ya it's happened, but not everyone has done that. The USA has been the friendliest country to the Jew in the history of the world not in spite of Christianity but because of it. That's Rabbi Daniel Lapin who says that, he's a far greater Rabbi than this Hispanic pretender.
tonytiger75 2 months ago
@tonytiger75 you completely missed the point of my comment. perhaps you have been eating/smoking too many frosted flakes, in which case that would be understandable indeed. try something healthier maybe.
wisdomtruthpeace 2 months ago 2
@tonytiger75 No, it's because of the Enlightenment. Research actual US history, not the lies your church gave you.
EdM021 3 weeks ago
Its about time you went after the true snake oil salesmen Rabbi!!!
straygypsy 4 months ago
Rabbi Meza, keep teaching the truth. They just don't understand. As a matter of fact, they don't want to understand. Christianity is a Roman religion. It was created by the Romans with the intent to deceive to gain power. If Christians ever took time to study with Jews, they would leave their religion. There are too many errors in their bibles and they don't even realize it.
caribijew1 4 months ago
@caribijew1 the only reason there are jews who dont accept jesus is bc jesus made everybody equal and typical prideful types want to think theyre the 'special' ones.
betterworld1 4 months ago
@betterworld1 Im not jewish and even i can say you are retarded gosh why do you trolls even comment?
AltairRah 4 months ago 4
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@AltairRah what are you talking about? if you even know. ppp
betterworld1 4 months ago
@caribijew1
Dude, the Romans kicked off the history of Christianity with state persecutions.
KabaneTheChristian 4 months ago
Response coming tonight or early tomorrow. Peace.
KabaneTheChristian 4 months ago
Rabbi can you translate this 3 videos to espanish?
thanks
gilsonsanchezchia 4 months ago
Get them Rabbi. Great respond.
simdes13 4 months ago
Facebook-Share first. Watch second !!
BeauMatane 4 months ago