*Sigh* this again? Was my reaction when I heard which arguments he was going to present. Even if we grant all that, there's no reason to believe that god is the one he prefers and in case it's the christian god, there's still the issue of whether or not his son was a carpenter, amongst other problems.
Lol "I think its impossible not to like christopher" , I'm pretty sure Hitchens would be upset if everyone liked him, or else he wouldnt be doing his job ;)
Hitchens wins in the style category, but his problem is that he avoided answering Turek’s questions because he knew the quagmire of his assertions. On the other hand, Turek was dry, but he had hard facts in the form of current scientific issues that had Hitchens running away (with eloquence of course). It’s interesting that the Christian used real scientific questions, while the atheist used emotional and moral appeal (the non-scientific/metaphysical) for his position.
@gogojetki Good point. Hitchens probably was a better choice than a scientist for the debate anyway. A real atheistic scientist would still have a difficult time opposing Turek given the points he raised and likely would not have been as entertaining Hitchens. To bad there will not be another bout between these two power players since he’s gone now.
@BananaandKiwi Wow, I agree with your point exactly! I am a confirmed atheist, and I love listening to Hitchens, and agree with almost everything he says. But I really felt that Turek gave the better debate about the question of God's existence. There were so many points he brought up that Hitchens ignored, or answered with only an emotional appeal, when in fact solid, factually-based refuting arguments exist for most of them. If I were an "undecided", I could see being swayed by Turek.
Isaiah 65 verse 1 in the holy bible through this scripture you can't really debate about if Jesus is the son of GOD or if he is the only way to heaven. God can really respond to those who personally ask him today. 100% guarantee you will get an answer from him personally. it says it clearly in scripture. So go ask.
Isaiah 65 verse 1 in the holy bible through this scripture you can't really debate about if Jesus is the son of GOD or if he is the only way to heaven. God can really respond to those who personally ask him today. 100% guarantee you will get an answer from him personally. it says it clearly in scripture. So go ask.
Folks... there is no debate. Because there is no proof to even substantiate the position of there being a god. Please for "Christ's" sake... let's move on as a species.
EPIC FAIL: my wife, her nickname is "Nails." Damn, did he think anyone would find that funny? Also, "if she ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!" That was funny about 35 years ago. So, is Turek saying that his wife has him "trained"? Does she wear the pants in the family?
"Christopher has to explain how reality is best explained by atheism"... okay so right off the bat this guy seems to have no clue what defines atheism. Well, i say right off the bat but he spends more time gassing about his wife and kids in this first video than actually making any points worth listening to.
In sympathy with many, my wife and I mourn Chris's passing. What a loss. I could not find my way to watching/listening to much of Turek's delivery--stale, uninspired, inauthentic, based on fear. Hitch never insults the intelligence of his audience. He arrives startlingly prepared, is eloquent, quick on his feet and is humorous as well. I feel his absence already. Wish he had taken better care of himself, but he will live on through his words--for a while, anyway. Peace to his family.
@relevant123 Christopher Hitchens is such a loss to mankind. He is an inspiration. Intelligent and charasmatic, he was always informative and entertaining.
Dont you love it when fundie retards, whether they're Atheist or Christian, try to debate as if the existence or non-existence of divinity were somehow "objective"?
Take my wife please, Henny Youngman type humor? I'm the kinda-that's a not of-guy you can sit down and have a beer with vibe? Spends most of his intro praising Hitchens? The guy is clearly frightened. This might almost be as embarrassing to watch as the Sharpton event. Carry on then...
The Burden of proof is always with you Turek. If you say "Hell exists and looks like this" and "The World was created this way" then where is the proof? Evidence? Turek you are annoying.
A youtube Christian I chat with closed his account. I liked him because he is the only Christian that would post my counter-Christian arguments on his pages.
Lets face facts here. If you go up against Hitchens, at one point you WILL, in some way, shape or form, end up saying "I AM YOUR BITCH, HITCHSLAP ME PLEASE."
I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE HITCHENS AND THE ATHEISTS SUPPORTING HIM CAN BE SO IGNORANT THAT THEY CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOD AND RELIGION!!! Turek started talking about scientific facts that point to the existence of God, Hitchen's reply turns out to be EXTREMELY PATHETIC when he tries to distract the attention to a diferent matter, that is, the huge corruption there has always existed in RELIGION...
@soxfan0408 You're presupposing that we are trying to establish some sort of sociopolitical kingdom, am I correct? Why would thousands of Christians have gone off to die knowingly in foreign lands all to "control the masses"? More significantly, why would the early church founders, especially the 11 remaining apostles of Christ, all go to excruciating deaths, every single one of the apostles, for a lie? I'm talking about those that LIVED AND ATE WITH JESUS. There is no earthly gain to be had.
@meechoman90 Are you not trying to presuppose some sociopolitical kingdom. The Christian right is constantly encroaching into politics. Listen to the Republican party. They have no sense of separation of church and state. Also thats exactly why Christians went off to die in foreign lands, to control the "holy land". Secondly many people of other religions have been murdered (a good amount by Christians) for their beliefs. It does not prove their validity.
@soxfan0408 America’s not a Christian nation. It contains some ignorant Christians. Its founders were more deists than theists. To be called a Christian nation we must be a theocracy like MidEast nations. Also you assumed I thought politics & religion should mix...I don't. Yes the Crusades happened, but I'm not a conqueror vying for socioeconomic, political gain whatsoever. I'm a Christ follower, seeking only to glorify him & his truth. It's about humility, not storing up treasures in this life.
@johneamer I do know but no doubt Turke is tax free, look into how much Focus on the Family make each year, joel osteen nd joy myers or whatever....millions....tax free!
Q for theists please answer: There are at least 400 billion galaxies in the observable universe,each galaxy consists of +/- 200 bil individual stars, some of these stars have planets so just statistically there most be life on other planets, even if we don't find it because the universe is unimaginably large. Knowing this how can one say that we, human beings ,r made in the image of god and all this is designed with us in mind, how can you possibly think that and not be a complete narcissist?
I'm uninitiated with this Frank Turek fellow, but he speaks with the overconfident cadence and zeal (and really lame jokes) of a man who is unaware that he will soon crash and burn.
@VanguardSupreme They (religious speakers) always do. They think they have it figured out. They KNOW. And then along comes Hitchens and BOOM! Intellectual falcon punch.
The cosmological, the design and the moral?! I haven't even seen the rest of the clips and I already know this guy's going to get destroyed because even I could destroy those arguments! The Hitch rebutting these is going to be like watching Mike Tyson beat up a puppy with a shovel.
Turek wastes too much time. I don't like how he tries to get the audience on his side with his "jokes" and "pleasantries". Just get to the fucking point.
If a god exists; then all the physical rules of the universe, as well as logic and the scientific method, were created by him, where as all religions were created by humans. The problem is, that all of those proven things disprove all known religions. So if a god exists, he is nothing like what any of our current religions suggest. So we have no reason to believe in any currently known religions.
There are mountains of evidence that God, creator and designer of this world, gave us, gave you, to show he does exist. So many things, "behind the scenes" we don't even think about, like the intricate parts and wing flutter ways of the butterfly, its majectic colors, or the "timing" of the sun rising and its going down, the snowflakes design. Psalm 104 rehearses creation. One day we'll all die, so will Hitchens, and we'll KNOW God does indeed exist. Hebrews 11:3, we "understand" thru "faith".
the things you attribute to 'God' can so much more easily be attributed to scientific principles in an evidence based way which many DO understand. though this does require basic scientific knowledge.......
@ultimatumjs What we "understand" is that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, that simple. That understanding comes thru faith...You said, "easily" be attributed to scientific principles. Now tell me, how does the sun "know" at what "time" to rise? Science does explain many things, as God has given man knowledge, but science will never fully deny God's existance. Do you attribute anything to God? I do attribute scientific "discoveries". Did you read Psalm 104?
@ultimatumjs "MAN" is the one that does not atttribute creation and its functions to God, man's own creator...NOT SCIENCE. Creation and science DOES attribute its remarkable creative work and function to its Maker. Science "declares" its Maker.
@abbafathersdaughter Science is a field of study created by man which involves formulating and testing hypotheses. it is EVIDENCE BASED. Just stop talking because your ignorance is obvious and its impossible to make headway discussing with anybody so closed-minded as yourself
@ultimatumjs The mighty "kings" of the earth, who deny God and his existance will one day really know things aren't what it seemed, contrary to their own "inflated" opinion and self rationalization. They don't hold the reins! Even to their last breath. They're the ignorant ones, the clout who believe they make things happen and determine the course of creation's history. They see God's power clothed in powerlessness. God sees them as powerlessness., blind. Thx for yur posts. Be free. Bye.
I think Sam Harris' upcoming book will make Turek's morality point futile. You can define the ideal morality as ideals that minimize human suffering. Saying that morality is supernaturally defined means that those who subscribe to this belief value biblical ideals over human prosperity and happiness. I cannot see any more of driving force behind global antagonism than this.
in case you don't have time to watch all 14 parts, let me sum up for you Dr. Turek's argument: "Here are things that science can't explain. Therefore God is the only explanation."
Classic argument from ignorance. Hitchens calls him out on it. Why is Turek so afraid of just admitting he has faith? Because that would be admitting that his entire argument has no evidence to support it.
If Turek cannot even remove the logical fallacy from the very title of his book- -perhaps one would be hard pressed to assume that the actual literature contained therein isn't abundantly riddled, and polluted with them throughout its entirety. The ridiculous notion that atheism requires faith rather than lacks it is almost too stupid to warrant an appropriate response.
"We both have the burden of proof to explain why reality is" [Turek]
Not so. The burden lies with the positive statement, ie, there is a God. The atheist does not have to explain anything except that the theists have got it wrong.
Also, what is the first 5 minutes of Tureks talk about? It is a mixture of poorly attempted stand up and butt kissing of Hitchens, is this meant to endear the audience to him somehow?
thanks. by the way, i dont understand why there is such debate about "god"? There is no any evidence for it. Universe is unlimited in time and space like natural numbers. The problem is we cant understand what is unlimited ;)
So Turek introduces his premise with the cosmological, teleological, and moral arguments; three well-debunked philosophies - this should be interesting.
There are no atheists who are atheists because they "have faith that there is no god". That's a strawman that faithheads use to tell themselves that they're no less irrational than their opponents. All atheists I know lack a belief in a supernatural deity; they have no matching belief in something else. So you don't need to have faith at all to be an atheist. Being an atheist means reserving faith, not placing it.
If Jehovah really existed, the arguments in favor of Him wouldn't all suck.
As I said, atheists don't suggest that the claim "deities do not exist" is true. They (generally) merely suggest that the truthfulness of the claim "Deity X exists" is unknown (X being Jehovah, Allah, Zeus, etc.), and that therefore, there is no reasonable basis on which to place one's trust in claims relating to said Deity.
Besides, I don't have to have confidence that "deities do not exist". As long as any Deity you are positing to me *at the moment* can be shown to be illogical, that's that.
Well said john. The reason I don't like saying whether there any kind of deity exists is that such a being could be ANYTHING. The only thing I could ever believe in as a God is the mystery of existence itself and that which holds those things we don't know YET.
*Sigh* this again? Was my reaction when I heard which arguments he was going to present. Even if we grant all that, there's no reason to believe that god is the one he prefers and in case it's the christian god, there's still the issue of whether or not his son was a carpenter, amongst other problems.
FHomeBrew 6 days ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Lol "I think its impossible not to like christopher" , I'm pretty sure Hitchens would be upset if everyone liked him, or else he wouldnt be doing his job ;)
MrShankapotamus 1 week ago
His wife's nickname is Nails and apparently she's a bitch.
AtheistRex 1 week ago
Hitchens wins in the style category, but his problem is that he avoided answering Turek’s questions because he knew the quagmire of his assertions. On the other hand, Turek was dry, but he had hard facts in the form of current scientific issues that had Hitchens running away (with eloquence of course). It’s interesting that the Christian used real scientific questions, while the atheist used emotional and moral appeal (the non-scientific/metaphysical) for his position.
BananaandKiwi 1 week ago
@BananaandKiwi That's because Christopher Hitchens was not a scientist, so he answered based on his expertise, which is literature and philosophy
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@gogojetki Good point. Hitchens probably was a better choice than a scientist for the debate anyway. A real atheistic scientist would still have a difficult time opposing Turek given the points he raised and likely would not have been as entertaining Hitchens. To bad there will not be another bout between these two power players since he’s gone now.
BananaandKiwi 1 week ago
@BananaandKiwi Wow, I agree with your point exactly! I am a confirmed atheist, and I love listening to Hitchens, and agree with almost everything he says. But I really felt that Turek gave the better debate about the question of God's existence. There were so many points he brought up that Hitchens ignored, or answered with only an emotional appeal, when in fact solid, factually-based refuting arguments exist for most of them. If I were an "undecided", I could see being swayed by Turek.
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Isaiah 65 verse 1 in the holy bible through this scripture you can't really debate about if Jesus is the son of GOD or if he is the only way to heaven. God can really respond to those who personally ask him today. 100% guarantee you will get an answer from him personally. it says it clearly in scripture. So go ask.
udoherkommer 2 weeks ago
Isaiah 65 verse 1 in the holy bible through this scripture you can't really debate about if Jesus is the son of GOD or if he is the only way to heaven. God can really respond to those who personally ask him today. 100% guarantee you will get an answer from him personally. it says it clearly in scripture. So go ask.
udoherkommer 2 weeks ago
@udoherkommer So what was his answer to you?
JRDawggg 6 days ago
Folks... there is no debate. Because there is no proof to even substantiate the position of there being a god. Please for "Christ's" sake... let's move on as a species.
TimothyADonaghue 3 weeks ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Damn this guy is screaming as loud as he can for no reason
Flash33181 4 weeks ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Turek's just not funny. He just thinks he is.
andybadger 4 weeks ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Hitch's debating skills were to the point that he could win a debate for the existence of unicorns.
Oleander410 1 month ago
Turek seems to spend a lot of time being a cheap, crowd pleasing tart rather than a debater.
DanRaccoon 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
EPIC FAIL: my wife, her nickname is "Nails." Damn, did he think anyone would find that funny? Also, "if she ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!" That was funny about 35 years ago. So, is Turek saying that his wife has him "trained"? Does she wear the pants in the family?
jrwbtw 1 month ago
Wow Turek was painful to listen to, really bad
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I'm 5 minutes into Turek's opening statement and I really feel sorry for the savaging he is about to receive.
pureevilfnord 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
i feel sorry for Turek's children. everyday they wake up, everyday they are taught myths
guesswho811 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
The night is young. - Christopher Hitchens
mattgresh1 1 month ago
Turek, this isn't a church, nobody will laugh at your poor jokes.
mkimball6 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
The presentation of arguments starts at 7:31, so much fluff beforehand
qttytn 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate 2
New Jersey...that explains a lot xD
wonszlol 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Why do the great ones always have to die first, or maybe it's just that deaths of great people are being noticed ;]
Anyway, we will miss you mr Hitchens but you're still alive in our MINDS ;D Kudos!
wonszlol 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate 2
@wonszlol its the whiskey, and/or cigarettes that takes the great ones
gg0BSBZerg 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Hitchens was a God!
JLGarber06 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
His first debate and they put him up against Hitchens? That's cruel. Just plain cruel.
bertiethetoupee4 2 months ago 4
I find it very funny when they say we have evidence there is god. lmao
Give it to me show me. Some of these people in this country, are embarrassing.
krapptacular 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Why the hell is he shouting? He has a bloody microphone!
MaxFelicitous 2 months ago 23
"Christopher has to explain how reality is best explained by atheism"... okay so right off the bat this guy seems to have no clue what defines atheism. Well, i say right off the bat but he spends more time gassing about his wife and kids in this first video than actually making any points worth listening to.
iouakick 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
This Turek dude is such a knob. I wanna shove his cross up his arse!
MrDarksidematter 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
I love how Turek uses a lot of his time only to praise Hitchens. Well done!
mollie2810 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
That awkward moment where no one laughs at your jokes
draydrone 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate 2
Turek = ubercorny and stupid.
1maxmorph 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
In sympathy with many, my wife and I mourn Chris's passing. What a loss. I could not find my way to watching/listening to much of Turek's delivery--stale, uninspired, inauthentic, based on fear. Hitch never insults the intelligence of his audience. He arrives startlingly prepared, is eloquent, quick on his feet and is humorous as well. I feel his absence already. Wish he had taken better care of himself, but he will live on through his words--for a while, anyway. Peace to his family.
relevant123 2 months ago 38
@relevant123 Christopher Hitchens is such a loss to mankind. He is an inspiration. Intelligent and charasmatic, he was always informative and entertaining.
MrsEnyam 1 month ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
R.I P Christopher Hitchens
supersnowyangel 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate 2
What a fucking loudmouth. LOWER YOUR VOICE DAMMIT
wuababa 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
Dont you love it when fundie retards, whether they're Atheist or Christian, try to debate as if the existence or non-existence of divinity were somehow "objective"?
AzazelEblis 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
I wish I could fast forward through Turek to listen to Hitchens, thumbs up if you agree!
n2ecosystems 4 months ago 2
Take my wife please, Henny Youngman type humor? I'm the kinda-that's a not of-guy you can sit down and have a beer with vibe? Spends most of his intro praising Hitchens? The guy is clearly frightened. This might almost be as embarrassing to watch as the Sharpton event. Carry on then...
joh3 5 months ago
How embarrassing for Turek's son!
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I haven't seen the rest and yet I already know that Hitchens will tear him apart.
He has no idea what he's in for... I can't wait to see the rest!
spiketail94 5 months ago
I haven't seen the rest and yet I already know that Hitchens will tear him apart.
He has no idea what he's in for... I can't wait to see the rest!
spiketail94 5 months ago
the song in the beginning makes me want to partaay
ManzarKhan007 6 months ago in playlist More videos from hitchenschannel
"The night is young" Classic Hitchens
MrMrPWN 6 months ago
Turek is one of those people who begin to talk and you find it necessary to find a way to not punch him in the mouth...
Hornadayfan 6 months ago
The Burden of proof is always with you Turek. If you say "Hell exists and looks like this" and "The World was created this way" then where is the proof? Evidence? Turek you are annoying.
alobo2000 7 months ago
Man was that guy awkward! You couldn't get a more hilariously awkward situation on a sitcom.
torontoBluejays87 7 months ago
"apparently the people at the back can't hear me"
*talks loudly*
"CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? good."
*goes back to talking quietly*
harmonykrieg 8 months ago
By 6:24 Turek's attempts at humor have all flopped badly making things rather awkward.
amatuerarabist 8 months ago
@amatuerarabist Not only is he unfunny, but he's basically shouting the whole time. Not a convincing man in any way.
paxpaul 7 months ago
A youtube Christian I chat with closed his account. I liked him because he is the only Christian that would post my counter-Christian arguments on his pages.
stormblast49 8 months ago
Lets face facts here. If you go up against Hitchens, at one point you WILL, in some way, shape or form, end up saying "I AM YOUR BITCH, HITCHSLAP ME PLEASE."
TheMessiersAndromeda 8 months ago
I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE HITCHENS AND THE ATHEISTS SUPPORTING HIM CAN BE SO IGNORANT THAT THEY CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOD AND RELIGION!!! Turek started talking about scientific facts that point to the existence of God, Hitchen's reply turns out to be EXTREMELY PATHETIC when he tries to distract the attention to a diferent matter, that is, the huge corruption there has always existed in RELIGION...
alexmottram07 9 months ago
@alexmottram07 there is no difference....God is created by religion to use for their own purpose
soxfan0408 9 months ago
@soxfan0408 What is our "own purpose"? What ulterior motive are you talking about?
meechoman90 8 months ago
@meechoman90 to control the masses.
soxfan0408 8 months ago
@soxfan0408 You're presupposing that we are trying to establish some sort of sociopolitical kingdom, am I correct? Why would thousands of Christians have gone off to die knowingly in foreign lands all to "control the masses"? More significantly, why would the early church founders, especially the 11 remaining apostles of Christ, all go to excruciating deaths, every single one of the apostles, for a lie? I'm talking about those that LIVED AND ATE WITH JESUS. There is no earthly gain to be had.
meechoman90 8 months ago
@meechoman90 Are you not trying to presuppose some sociopolitical kingdom. The Christian right is constantly encroaching into politics. Listen to the Republican party. They have no sense of separation of church and state. Also thats exactly why Christians went off to die in foreign lands, to control the "holy land". Secondly many people of other religions have been murdered (a good amount by Christians) for their beliefs. It does not prove their validity.
soxfan0408 8 months ago
@soxfan0408 America’s not a Christian nation. It contains some ignorant Christians. Its founders were more deists than theists. To be called a Christian nation we must be a theocracy like MidEast nations. Also you assumed I thought politics & religion should mix...I don't. Yes the Crusades happened, but I'm not a conqueror vying for socioeconomic, political gain whatsoever. I'm a Christ follower, seeking only to glorify him & his truth. It's about humility, not storing up treasures in this life.
meechoman90 8 months ago
lol I only laughed when he quoted hitchens
EddieFivespeed 9 months ago
@johneamer I do know but no doubt Turke is tax free, look into how much Focus on the Family make each year, joel osteen nd joy myers or whatever....millions....tax free!
shandcunt 9 months ago
Everyone needs to understand that Frank Turek is the joke. A doctorate in apologetics? Give me a fucking break...
Hornadayfan 9 months ago
@Hornadayfan I have a Phd., a Bsc, Ba and a D. Phil. These laser printers are wonderful.
gamesbok 7 months ago
those christians always shout and act like they're on cocaine, or something
InterZlatan8 9 months ago
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Q for theists please answer: There are at least 400 billion galaxies in the observable universe,each galaxy consists of +/- 200 bil individual stars, some of these stars have planets so just statistically there most be life on other planets, even if we don't find it because the universe is unimaginably large. Knowing this how can one say that we, human beings ,r made in the image of god and all this is designed with us in mind, how can you possibly think that and not be a complete narcissist?
Jerrez 9 months ago
lol the funniest thing he said was wat hitch said 2 him
utubeing567 9 months ago
So 'Dr' Turek isn't really a Dr at all. As usual...
biggingeryeti 10 months ago 3
Anyone know how much these guys receive in speaker fees?
johneamer 10 months ago
I'm uninitiated with this Frank Turek fellow, but he speaks with the overconfident cadence and zeal (and really lame jokes) of a man who is unaware that he will soon crash and burn.
VanguardSupreme 10 months ago
@VanguardSupreme They (religious speakers) always do. They think they have it figured out. They KNOW. And then along comes Hitchens and BOOM! Intellectual falcon punch.
biggingeryeti 10 months ago 2
The point Frank.....get to it
ThieleM 10 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
He is honest about the proceeds of the book, if nothing else
kevandeg 10 months ago
He's wasting so much time saying "i won't have enough time" and with his "jokes" lol
CMan721 10 months ago
"Doctorate in Apologetics"
Well there's your problem. You have a degree in bullshit.
dhx84 10 months ago
you disagree with him on GOD??
no, you also disagree on morality, humanism, religion, and Hitler...
fan my ass...
redshark618 11 months ago
5:50-5:53 "This is my first formal debate."
Really, Frank? That's not terribly hard to deduce.
writersblock26 11 months ago 2
Turek's mind, speech, voice, thoughts, jokes and ideals disgust me
Agelos317 1 year ago
@Agelos317 He would spell that "discussed" I'm sure.
SethHesio 1 year ago
He calls his wife NAILS?
i3u7n5 1 year ago
@i3u7n5 Hahahahahahaha!
BlckSbthMan 1 year ago
That American guy is useless. No one laughs at his terrible gags and his viewpoint is that of a typical dumb Religious lunatic.
midnightjoker23 1 year ago
debate starts at 5:27
duality2527 1 year ago
Turek is a dick... I'm looking forward to watching this even more now.
SethHesio 1 year ago
@SethHesio Hahaha, oh yeah!
BlckSbthMan 1 year ago
@BlckSbthMan It's so good!
SethHesio 1 year ago
@SethHesio I know!
BlckSbthMan 11 months ago
Fuck, he just keeps SCREAMING HOLY JESUS WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF A MICROPHONE
JScarper 1 year ago
Debate starts at 5:25.
sonicbaz1 1 year ago 71
@sonicbaz1 debate doesn't start until 8:35 of video 3.
nihongogogo 3 months ago
@sonicbaz1 The Debate actually starts at 7:40
draydrone 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate 2
@sonicbaz1
Awesome. Thanks!
papermermaid 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Take my wife. Please.
ant2206 1 year ago
The one against Hitchens always seems to yell his/her point. Really unprofessional
iblessedx 1 year ago 5
A doctorate in apologetics? That's about the same as having a degree in scratching your balls.
MomoTheBellyDancer 1 year ago 17
@MomoTheBellyDancer He resembles that remark. 3:50 he sits there, scratching his ass. And he still claims we're not related to chimps?
Still it's the most intelligent thing he's done all evening :/
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@MomoTheBellyDancer In a Freudian sense you're absolutely correct! LOL!
uberhikari 2 months ago in playlist Does God Exist debate
Tureks intro seems to an exercise in damage limitation...
DanielMcDrtcomposer 1 year ago
*sigh* the second he summed up his first three argument i just thought, "great! recycle william lane craig's arguments and execute them poorly..."
you're not WLC, get your own arguments moron...
FormulaOneFan4Eva 1 year ago
5:50-6:25 EPIC FAIL! AHAHAHAHAHA!
wow, he just lost me in 35 seconds...
FormulaOneFan4Eva 1 year ago
Turek comes off as such a boring and disagreeable person. He isn't funny, and his shots at wittiness are bland at best.
VaeVictisAeternum 1 year ago 12
The cosmological, the design and the moral?! I haven't even seen the rest of the clips and I already know this guy's going to get destroyed because even I could destroy those arguments! The Hitch rebutting these is going to be like watching Mike Tyson beat up a puppy with a shovel.
juikm 1 year ago 7
president of the U.S.A. huh? thats cute
DemonPacman 1 year ago
Holy crap his jokes are raping my ears
ArrogantAtheism 1 year ago
@ArrogantAtheism You have a way with words my friend.
DanielMcDrtcomposer 1 year ago
Hi, Billy Mays here . . . . !!
FPSBukkakke 1 year ago
Turek wastes too much time. I don't like how he tries to get the audience on his side with his "jokes" and "pleasantries". Just get to the fucking point.
CanadianRunner 1 year ago
If a god exists; then all the physical rules of the universe, as well as logic and the scientific method, were created by him, where as all religions were created by humans. The problem is, that all of those proven things disprove all known religions. So if a god exists, he is nothing like what any of our current religions suggest. So we have no reason to believe in any currently known religions.
nitestar95 1 year ago 2
@nitestar95 - perfectly said. if you try and use science to prove a god and you happen to find one, you can be sure that it isn't yours.
FormulaOneFan4Eva 1 year ago
Wow, right off the bat, this Turek guy is a twat. Sounds like Kent Hovind, with his crappy jokes.
LostSubsForever 1 year ago
i would be positively shitting myself if i were in turek's shoes.
fmandld 1 year ago
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abbafathersdaughter 1 year ago
There are mountains of evidence that God, creator and designer of this world, gave us, gave you, to show he does exist. So many things, "behind the scenes" we don't even think about, like the intricate parts and wing flutter ways of the butterfly, its majectic colors, or the "timing" of the sun rising and its going down, the snowflakes design. Psalm 104 rehearses creation. One day we'll all die, so will Hitchens, and we'll KNOW God does indeed exist. Hebrews 11:3, we "understand" thru "faith".
abbafathersdaughter 1 year ago
@abbafathersdaughter what.....you're serious?
the things you attribute to 'God' can so much more easily be attributed to scientific principles in an evidence based way which many DO understand. though this does require basic scientific knowledge.......
ultimatumjs 1 year ago
@ultimatumjs What we "understand" is that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, that simple. That understanding comes thru faith...You said, "easily" be attributed to scientific principles. Now tell me, how does the sun "know" at what "time" to rise? Science does explain many things, as God has given man knowledge, but science will never fully deny God's existance. Do you attribute anything to God? I do attribute scientific "discoveries". Did you read Psalm 104?
Be open.
abbafathersdaughter 1 year ago
@ultimatumjs "MAN" is the one that does not atttribute creation and its functions to God, man's own creator...NOT SCIENCE. Creation and science DOES attribute its remarkable creative work and function to its Maker. Science "declares" its Maker.
abbafathersdaughter 1 year ago
@abbafathersdaughter Science is a field of study created by man which involves formulating and testing hypotheses. it is EVIDENCE BASED. Just stop talking because your ignorance is obvious and its impossible to make headway discussing with anybody so closed-minded as yourself
ultimatumjs 1 year ago
@ultimatumjs The mighty "kings" of the earth, who deny God and his existance will one day really know things aren't what it seemed, contrary to their own "inflated" opinion and self rationalization. They don't hold the reins! Even to their last breath. They're the ignorant ones, the clout who believe they make things happen and determine the course of creation's history. They see God's power clothed in powerlessness. God sees them as powerlessness., blind. Thx for yur posts. Be free. Bye.
abbafathersdaughter 1 year ago
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Pretell, good and noble and pious Dr. Turek,
When did you become such an insufferable jer-ek?
The ridiculous things you believe
Make a thinking person grieve
And require so much unnecessary wor-ek!
Esotericanyc 1 year ago
Pretell, good and noble and pious Dr. Turek,
When did you become such an insufferable jer-ek?
The ridiculous things you believe
Make a thinking person grieve
And require so much unnecessary wor-ek!
Esotericanyc 1 year ago
Stop being so loud, man. You're not supposed to -preach- on debates, you're supposed to -speak-.
voltcorp 1 year ago
science can only explain how... your personal belief explains why. If you put your mind to it, you could believe anything.
But I, for one, give all the glory to God.
jeremyfrancis 1 year ago
Turek is like a lamb to the slaughter.... I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.
beeDUB75 1 year ago
@beeDUB75 haha
morrossey 8 months ago
I think Sam Harris' upcoming book will make Turek's morality point futile. You can define the ideal morality as ideals that minimize human suffering. Saying that morality is supernaturally defined means that those who subscribe to this belief value biblical ideals over human prosperity and happiness. I cannot see any more of driving force behind global antagonism than this.
drainville1 1 year ago
embarassment from the gods side..
theWHYing 1 year ago
in case you don't have time to watch all 14 parts, let me sum up for you Dr. Turek's argument: "Here are things that science can't explain. Therefore God is the only explanation."
Classic argument from ignorance. Hitchens calls him out on it. Why is Turek so afraid of just admitting he has faith? Because that would be admitting that his entire argument has no evidence to support it.
RobsterRiz 1 year ago
Oh my, this wasn't even fair...Turek is not even playing the same game, let alone in the same league as Hitch...
This was nearly painful to watch (and listen to - Turek seems to yell a lot...)
johnycannuk 1 year ago
If Turek cannot even remove the logical fallacy from the very title of his book- -perhaps one would be hard pressed to assume that the actual literature contained therein isn't abundantly riddled, and polluted with them throughout its entirety. The ridiculous notion that atheism requires faith rather than lacks it is almost too stupid to warrant an appropriate response.
Poisinn 2 years ago 5
Almost too stupid...HA! It is too stupid.
MakeshiftEstablished 2 years ago
It's junk science from a man who isn't a scienctist.
0u8shirt8 2 years ago 3
This debate would be better with fisticuffs.
sn00ke 2 years ago
I must say, I find Mr. Tureks manner very abrasive. This is not a critique of his position. I just think that he is not a very good speaker.
jamesjavorsky 2 years ago
His jokes are hilariously unfunny.
sn00ke 2 years ago 75
who's jokes?
MakeshiftEstablished 2 years ago
@sn00ke The relief on his face was very telling when someone finally laughed at one.
GDATERRY 1 year ago
@sn00ke the irony is that his only funny quote was quoting hitchens
duality2527 1 year ago
@sn00ke Whose jokes? Turek's?
Superwolf1337 7 months ago
If this is your honest position, then I must ask you: What evidence or argument can you render in support of your position?
jamesjavorsky 2 years ago 2
@vinallouis
I would contest that.
I thought the casuistic efferts that we saw from turek, did nothing to further the case for theism.
automaticSOM 2 years ago
Turek is a nice guy, pity he's not an atheist, a man of reason. Would be nice to have him on the side of reason.
skyzthelimi7 2 years ago
debating hitchens in ANYTHING would be awful, let alone defending the indefensible.
ultimatumjs 2 years ago 60
@ultimatumjs
abbafathersdaughter 1 year ago
@ultimatumjs I no eh? He's awesome he's like the personification of intellect and intelligence
stevesg92 1 year ago
GOD OWNS!
Bluevetteboy2012 2 years ago
IT'S CHEAPER THAN RENTING!
johnclavis 2 years ago 3
"We both have the burden of proof to explain why reality is" [Turek]
Not so. The burden lies with the positive statement, ie, there is a God. The atheist does not have to explain anything except that the theists have got it wrong.
Also, what is the first 5 minutes of Tureks talk about? It is a mixture of poorly attempted stand up and butt kissing of Hitchens, is this meant to endear the audience to him somehow?
simonlambert13 2 years ago 5
morality is just the best strategy for survival in the group. it evolved as anything else.
mindaza0 2 years ago
that is the best way i have ever heard it explained in 16 words, nice work.
simonh84 2 years ago
thanks. by the way, i dont understand why there is such debate about "god"? There is no any evidence for it. Universe is unlimited in time and space like natural numbers. The problem is we cant understand what is unlimited ;)
mindaza0 2 years ago
i believe Turek's son is in the audience. That poor sap has to watch his own father get it up the ass, so to speak.
Flabbyhabbybabby 2 years ago
So Turek introduces his premise with the cosmological, teleological, and moral arguments; three well-debunked philosophies - this should be interesting.
surgewakefield 2 years ago
"he" most certainly does not
Tureks book title "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" is perhaps the most intellectually dishonest book title I've ever seen
NewtonsStudent 2 years ago 3
There are no atheists who are atheists because they "have faith that there is no god". That's a strawman that faithheads use to tell themselves that they're no less irrational than their opponents. All atheists I know lack a belief in a supernatural deity; they have no matching belief in something else. So you don't need to have faith at all to be an atheist. Being an atheist means reserving faith, not placing it.
If Jehovah really existed, the arguments in favor of Him wouldn't all suck.
johnclavis 2 years ago 5
well put sir
ultimatumjs 2 years ago
The truth value of the claim "deities do not exist" is unknown. Hence postulating that the claim is true or false must be faith based.
sebastianbbc 2 years ago
As I said, atheists don't suggest that the claim "deities do not exist" is true. They (generally) merely suggest that the truthfulness of the claim "Deity X exists" is unknown (X being Jehovah, Allah, Zeus, etc.), and that therefore, there is no reasonable basis on which to place one's trust in claims relating to said Deity.
Besides, I don't have to have confidence that "deities do not exist". As long as any Deity you are positing to me *at the moment* can be shown to be illogical, that's that.
johnclavis 2 years ago 2
Well said john. The reason I don't like saying whether there any kind of deity exists is that such a being could be ANYTHING. The only thing I could ever believe in as a God is the mystery of existence itself and that which holds those things we don't know YET.
HiveDes 2 years ago
it must involve a leap of faith yes but it is not faith based as there is evidence to support it
automaticSOM 2 years ago