Tonfa Kata
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  • I just got some hard wood corded nunchucks, pair of tonfas (needs modification to the tsukagashira), Rattan Escrima (or Jo to the Japanese), and 6 ft Rattan Bo (Shorter then me)

    I'm familiar with using Bo and Nunchucks from sessions of self-training over the years, but what's a good starting point for practicing Kobudo?

  • @Luneys74012 First step: always call them "nunchaku" - anything else is disrespectful. Next is to find a sensei - when you practice by yourself, you can't see all the mistakes you are making.

  • @hempev My apologies for the misspelling.

  • It would be interesting to see this done fast.

  • this guy is very good at explaining lots of teacher good at fighting but bad at explaining to other people

  • @smile221 I think Shihan is probably also good at fighting, but he never has to - maybe it's his ki...?

  • @hempev I meant he is good at fighting AND good at explaining, while lots of teachers just fight with their students and expect them to learn naturally from that because they already know how

  • @smile221 I wouldn't know how he is at fighting, I just wouldn't "go there"!

  • good.

  • thumbs up if u only watched this coz you played suikoden 2 :)

  • Riou~!!

  • @hempev

    Please upload hama higa no tuifa if possible. Thanks. Nice vid from an obvious master.

  • @TheTotallycoolio Sorry, we don't have that kata. The only other one is Seibu no Tonfa, and I don't have a video of it.

  • I'm in tang so do and no one in my dojang knows how to use the tonfa this is real helpful more please

  • This guy is really good!

  • talim till the end bro

  • Talim of soul calibur~

  • more of this please!!!!

  • to master such weapon,one must know the good grip in the weapon,timing and good coordination is required

  • @jinasura1 That is true of every weapon used in kobudo.

  • how large was the tonfa handle,i'm really curious about this fascinating weapon

  • @jinasura1 About an inch in diameter, although it is tapered a bit towards the end. The length varies, but should be just a little longer than your fist.

  • Do you have any suggestion to tutorials as you have shown on the subject of tameshigiri. Also you show 5 iaido kata, but you say that you have many more, where can these be found.

  • @bglee63 I know nothing about tameshigiri, and if you want to learn more iaido kata, you would need to take a class.

  • Really nice video. Kinda feel bad that there's no real class for such things around my area (without an hour long-ish drive at least) :(

  • dancing with tonfas XP. great explanation though, sensei.

  • The people who disliked this must have expected XMA or movie fantasy...

    I loved these weapons when I was younger and just got a pair, I'm not in karate anymore but I remember most of what I was taught. Watching this helps keep those memories fresh.

  • Do i need to use a firm grip when im not swinging?

  • @djrollin212 Yes! If you saw the first video, the amount is "100-80-60-20-20" as the strength of each finger (pinkie to thumb), which is also the same percentages for other kobudo weapons as well as iaido (swords).

  • i use tonfa in my work , i love tonfa

  • I have a problem with it.... The Tonfa slips away from my hand when spin...and I must change the grip every time! What is the correct handle ?

  • @IoriaM Just slightly longer than the width of your grip.

  • @IoriaM

    I have the same problem. My instructor's dojo is right over a workworking shop, so I'm going to see if they can modify mine to work. I'm a tall guy, but I guess my hands aren't very wide, so it makes finding the right length and handgrip width a real pain! I sold my first pair to a guy at class because they were so big for my hands it wasn't funny... It REALLY seems like you have to have these fit because they don't spin right if they don't fit your hands...

  • Outstanding, not only Phys skills but his teaching methods skills

    A real Sensei

  • This weapon has good defense, high attack speed and , if you hit the right part, a very high power! I love it

  • I'm really glad this one has been added. I'm currently trying to remember this kata for class and being able to get a little "after school" help on this is making remembering this kata much easier!

  • The hero in suikoden2 uses tonfas

  • Great Videos!!

    Thank you for share them :)

  • is it your clothes making the "swoosh" sound or are u really going so fast u can hear it? either way this is exelent ^_^

  • @angelofdeath9477 Swing a tonfa correctly and you will hear a woosh, even moreso with nunchaku.

  • Why is each tonfa thinner at the end?

  • @AllOfUsLoveSpam They have to be a little stouter where the handle fits in to deal with the greatest stress point - ones that are the same width for the entire length are cheaper but also less long-lasting.

  • @hempev

    Oh. I see. Is that so for staves as well?

  • @AllOfUsLoveSpam If you are referring to the bo, no, those are just sticks, so the don't need reinforcement for a side handle.

  • @hempev

    So there would be no point in making a bo thinner at the ends?

  • @AllOfUsLoveSpam They come either way - the most important thing is they be absolutely smooth, and even enough to roll smoothly on the floor. The tradition of the taper comes not from use as a weapon, but use as a farm tool (commonly carrying full buckets at each end).

  • @hempev well, the taper does improve the effectiveness of thrusting techniques, on account of the smaller surface area through which the impact is focused.

  • @shaolinkungfu666 Certainly not as important as the overall quality of manufacture - I have had several cheap tapered ones from China that are so crappy they creaked when you did push-ups on the monouchi, but my latest is a Shureido model, made in Okinawa and the best you can find, and there is barely any taper except from the attachment of the handle (which is squared stock) for a few inches towards either end. Shihan shows several version in the first tonfa/tonkua/tuifa clip.

  • its pernounced "rajomen" yes?

  • @goldengun5980 What are you pronouncing? If you are referring to the back of the dojo, it is urajomen (the front is shomen). I don't know enough Japanese to know what else you could be talking about.

  • ok I understand now

  • Very skillful and good to watch. Logically though I'd be quite a barrier to overcome to actually use them against someone after training so hard to never hit someone like this.

    /uneducated opinion

  • @DeathlyCrunch As it should be...

  • @DeathlyCrunch Everyone who really knows and understands what a martial art is knows that it has mostly to do with your innerself, self-assurance, strenght and not with "praying to have an opportunity to show your skills".

    Well-trained uses it as last resource- and poor the soul who pushed us to the limit.

  • @erikborgersen Can't hear you over how hard you're preaching.

    I like how you quoted something I didn't say, an extra special touch of retard there.

  • @DeathlyCrunch  Haha...

  • suikoden ^_^

  • @soccerwill04 HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAH, yeah...

  • *was directed from there as well

    lol

  • @soccerwill04 Ryou from suikoden II

  • looks hard

  • Where can I find a trustworthy website that sells reliable tonfa?

  • @BankheadBreaker ShureidoUSA (dot) com for the best, not just reliable

  • Thank you very much.

  • Tonfa's are mad

  • Do you think that tonfa are ideal for Escrima?

  • I don't know any other martial art, but I think tan bo (half staff) are more typical for escrima - I have a clip of that tutorial, too.

  • are all tonfa techniques designed for one in each hand.? i only have one.

  • We've always practiced with 2, whether hojoundo, kata or bunkai, so if you were doing our style, I guess you should get another one!

  • hmm debating on these or kamas to learn next.

  • I guess it would depend on whether you like your weapons sharp or blunt...

  • I wish he was my sensei :D

  • he is very fast

  • I learn this kata slightly differently, what martial art is this?

  • Okinawan kobudo

  • Happy to see a kata properly demonstrated. Can I use this video to learn your Kata

  • Be my guest, but try to have someone who knows what to look for to observe your moves once in a while to know if you are learning it right (which comes even before *doing* it right!)

  • Looks hard to get the form right.

  • Not really, just keep your mind open and practice regularly. The Sai on the other hand is a tricky weapon to master.

  • Excellent Demo

  • grande MAESTRO

    OSS.

  • how old is shihan now? he looks bout 50 but im sure he could tear just bout anyone i know apart

  • That's about right - I think he's 68 now, and these videos are from the early '90's.

  • @demonfox910 Asian people are generally well conserved. I've worked with some before. There was one who looked like in his 40's , but he was actually 63 yrs old.

  • Ossssssu.

    Thankyou for the outstanding video.

    Respect to Nishiuchi Shihan!

  • wow....this dude really puts together good vids

  • Is this video still available? I can't find it on the internet and would love a DVD.

  • Century Martial Arts

  • Hey, could you make a Tonfa Video with some tricks like Kroenen does with his Tonfa swords? ( Kroenen Hellboy movie you can search in youtube ) for the Tonfa-Actors to make show? Or if anyone want make a Movie and make it look more spectaculary?

    Greetings

  • No, no tricks, no juggling, nothing done for show, that's the basis of true budou.

  • damn, I have some martial arts experience but non with a tonfa and I am unable to take lessons for personal reasons. How do i practice independently without corrupting my form?

  • Can't help you with that - I wouldn't try *any* weapon without a sensei helping me out!

  • great body and weapons control... I would probably hit myself with these swings at the beginning :D

  • I have hit myself many times...only occasionally now

  • kool

  • this is the the most good kata i have even seen iam a martial arts too and went to learn weapons too and i shaolin goju

  • Well, don't skimp on the 3 R's...

  • personally i use a PR-24 which is the composite larger police issue tonfa and it is one of the only weapons with mord defenses than attacks. thus making it a wonderful defensive option.

  • Im aspiring to be a police officer......from what ive seen lately officers either go hands on or taser.....too bad i think a baton used properly could be able to gain control more often than not without injury as opposed to ground fighting or less lethal weapon use, which always cause injury

  • @fuggsakes anytime a suspect is being forcefully apprehended there will be a small margin of injury. Essentially the more they fight the worse the injury. However unarmed restraints are less likely to cause permanent injury, whereas intermittent tools are used with the increase of force in the use of force continum. If a subject is going to endanger other people or yourself then there is no reason why that person should be allowed to continue their actions unchecked.

  • I've made my Homemade tonfas with PVC, i'll try, if i like it i'll buy my regular ones :P, they look so cool and usefull...Simple, Best for defense, good for attacks...i'll shure like it

  • Wow, I'm having the same idea, to make Tonfas out of PVC. :P

  • good idea for practice or movie prop for safer full contact but be aware that they can still injure you or your opponent...

  • If you plan on full contact, padding as we use on our Sport Warrior equipment is worthwhile so you can use full force (which can still be painful!)

  • fill it with concrete =P

  • look mister you put those door handles back on right now

  • He'd need to find some mighty big doors to have handles that big, like those on a church or some Masonic hall...

  • I really want to learn martial art. Basically for two reasons: (1) to help me become fit and healthy and (2) to protect my love ones.

    However, I haven't decided what particular martial art I will enroll. Could you please give me a hand? Thanks in advance... ^_^

  • That depends on what's available - for expedience, rather than going to a dojo, you could enroll in a self-defense course and a workout regime at a gym. In some ways, any martial art is going to take a long time to learn, as with anything else termed an "art".

  • One can only be as good as the experience level of one's sensei...

  • I think your right too...., well what's written above is just my opinion.

  • It also depends on whether you want to learn the original source material or something derived from it.

  • Ah the tonfa, a simple but quite effective weapon.

  • Poomse is the korean term for Kata basically.

  • Excellent!

  • ...Its not the weapon that make the fight, its the user...

    love the poomse though.

  • True...but "poomse"?

  • poomse means form, or pattern. It's like a 4 wall fighting simulation.

  • A poomse as basicly practicing a combonation of attacks on invisable attackers, helps muscle memory (^_^)

  • Where does this term come from? I wouldn't know it because our dojo only uses Japanese terms. All kata and hojoundo are practiced with an imaginary partner/opponent to get the position of attack and defense right, and the "partner" is always your own height. You have to adjust this when doing bunkai, since you then have a real person in front of you.

  • Japanese? what art do you study?

    And the term is Korean, in Tae Kwan Do

    Its pretty much the same thing as a Kata (^_^)

  • This is kobudo - while originally from Okinawa (a.k.a. Ryukyu kingdom), very little of the original Okinawan language is left, and all terms are Japanese. My sensei, Shihan Bolz, first learned wado ryu before going to Okinawan forms.

    P.S. - Many in Korea won't say what originated from Japan, since the latter invaded and occupied the former for many years (the royal court of Korea effectively erased their original martial art from history centuries ago), but Japan itself got karate from Okinawa.

  • I've been studying Moo Sul Kwan Tae Kwon Do for a bit over 16 years, and have been combining a few other art with it. Im sorry to say TKD is the only art I've really studied, I know very little about the history of the other forms (T_T). But Im all ears to learn more!

  • Shihan has a private student who is a 9th dan in TKD and a sensei in his own dojo (coming from 150 miles away about once a month for a 3hr individual training session) and he said learning kobudo from him was like opening his eyes for the first time, so I can appreciate those willing to learn (or relearn).

    Unfortunately, all I can offer is what Shihan Nishiuchi and Shihan Bolz have recorded, and what little I have learned from them myself.

  • to defeat tonfas is very hard, because when u stay from a distance they block and when you get close then can put the tonfa around your neck and pull you to the ground, its almost like you need to be better skilled then them with tonfas too or with sai.

  • Yeah, anything with a bit more range is your best bet in a fight against a pro tonfa user. A Shaolin Staff would work, meteor hammer, things of that sort.

  • i just got some practicing tonfas. They dont look so very hard to handle which can be good, but maybe problematic if it ecomes to obvious what you are trying to do

  • this dude rocks.

  • I ain't going to pick a fight with him !!!!

  • I wish he'd do the fighting applications too with the nunchaku

  • same here now that you made me thing of it.

  • Love this guy.

  • where to u bye a tonfa from and how much do they cost ???

  • Use the link for Century Fitness (but for U.S. only), otherwise a good web-search usually comes up with plenty of sellers, and even eBay has them.

  • Thank you very much, 5 stars!

  • What's the name of the kata? Tonfa-Kata? Can anybody write it down, please? =)

    Thanks.

  • Tonfa Kata Ichi is what I have been taught to call it. It may be given a different name in other schools.

  • In all honesty I think tonfas are better than Kamas, but I guess it is all based on what you weapon you face and the style right?

  • It's best to learn as many weapons as possible, but historically, we are talking about farmers and fishermen using whatever they had at hand - kuwa are used when preparing the fields, kama are during harvest, ieku when fishing, tonfa when cranking the mill or hanging the cooking pot, bo when carrying out the "night-soil"...

  • Allow me to rephrase: I think that Tonfas (or Tunfa, happy?) are better for self defense today because they're "more legal" than kamas, and the speed of their usage makes them more formidable. But then again, it's really just based on experience, who you fight, and what you have on hand. I realize I asked a general question there :D

  • Actually, kama are entirely legal, since they are used in gardens all over the world - you wouldn't get in trouble with them buried amoungst your tools! By the way, "tonfa" is how it is spelled in romaji, but Okinawan accents sometimes pronounce o's as u's, like when they pronounce ossu as ussu.

  • what Tunfa kata is this?? it sure isnt Matayoshi no tunfa nidan or shodan.

  • I had to double check - this is the same kata done by Oshiro and posted by YouTube member the50s60s70s - I don't usually watch other kobudo clips, but I see only style differences, not order or form. Also, the romaji is "tonfa" or "tuifa", but the pronunciation varies based on regional accents - Shureido uses tonfa as the weapon's name, and since they are the premier makers of these in Okinawa, they should be considered more of an authority than you or I (they made mine).

  • great explanations and easy to follow

  • The attack or counter attack is never finished in Tonfa, there is always a possibility to hit. There are so many different ways for hiting.

  • This is the best and very well explained it helps greatly Thanks for the video

  • Hibari Kyoya is a fictional anime character in Katekyushi Hitman Reborn who also uses tonfas as well.! Hes awesome

  • Ahh, that explains it - for those who equate games, movies and TV martial arts with this, remember: this is real life.

  • I've been training MMA for a little while, now one of my friends gave me some tonfa's and I would just like to say, for the basics, this video is excellent.

  • I don't know who Hibari Kyoya is, but I know Shihan would never need to kill anyone - his ki is too clear.

  • I just wanted to thank you for putting these up. I was a 1st kyu in Karate in High School, but ran out of money to continue training in a dojo. However, now that I've graduated university, I have a bit more money--enough to buy some weapons and train in that.  Your videos have convinced me that tonfa are the way to go. I know, I know, videos aren't the best way to learn how to use tonfa, but I think my old karate training will help a little (I've been keeping it up.)

  • Good martial arts training in one art will help when you take up another - Shihan has been doing one-to-one training with a 10th dan tae kwon do sensei who was eager to learn kobudo, and has advanced much faster than any common student. It helps that he was willing to start as a white belt and has an open, "beginner's" mind despite a lifetime of experience! At least *he* was not satisfied with sho dan like a lot of other Westerners are - sho not only means first, it also means beginning.

  • Yes , thank you for the videos , much appreciated

  • Thank you so much for your vids clear precise and well executed. I have only learnt Hamahiga no Tonfa, which is advanced but it it so good to have more on the Tonfa. Would yhere be more tonfa katas to come soon

  • These are all the tonfa videos I have - Shihan Nishiuchi has more advanced DVDs that I don't have.

  • I wish I could learn how to use these just from videos.

  • But it's good that you know the limitations of them - they are really visual hints to allow practice outside the dojo and the guidance of a sensei, which is how one *really* learns.

  • heeh queue the white guy!!!

  • nice

  • kihon no tonfa shodan? nidan?

  • A kata is not kihon, since kihon comes even before hojoundo.

  • i learned tonfa-ichi from Yamashita sensei at a seminar about a year ago. we rarely go into tonfa detail in class so thanks for showing this video. it's very thorough.

  • What is the name of this kata?

  • We know this as tonfa-ichi kata - there is also seibu no tonfa, but I haven't learned it, so I can say what the difference is.

  • is there a clip of seibu no tonfa?

  • Not in this video series, and since it is the next advanced form, I haven't even seen it in class!

  • So what is the name of the guy in the video? His control of the tonfa is incredible. His knowledge is excellent. Where do I find his videos?

  • i just got tonfa myself this helps alot bc i had no idea how they were used properly. i dont expect to master the forms by watching the vids bc there is no substitute for an actual teacher but they do help. thx

  • That's the proper attitude when using these videos!