It's just a case of turning the camera on, talking and seeing what happens. I find if I try to script or pre-empt my videos in any way they don't work.
Oh, thank you. I must say that I'm really impressed then. Because I've tried doing that sort of thing but as soon as there's a camera in my face I freeze up and can't say anything/
bro if u think east enders is bad u dont even understand. at least in east enders they interact with real environments in American soaps everything is a backdrop or a set even if they are outside and every type of human interaction or communicative effort suggests this mixture of ignorance, entitlement, and complete superficiality that is synonymous with American culture. there bad to the point were i didnt even consider east enders a soap until i watched this video
BULLOCKS! Best line ever. But on a whole I agree with you especially what you say about societal stagnation. I don't hate soaps but I definately get annoyed when people talk about them as if they are the word of god. Best of luck on your acting.
I can't stand soap operas or dramas (except sci fi). The 3 main soaps in this country - Eastenders (Suicide Square), Coronation St (Valium St) and Emmerdale (Labotomy) are purile, negative, insidious, destructive, nasty, vicious, pointless, small minded, petty, ridiculous, awful, RUBBISH!
I absolutely detest them with a passion seemingly to the same extent you do. You would have to pay me £200 to watch an episode of these screaming banchees earning their living portraying misery.
I hope you do a review of the new Thor film. I, personally, only liked it for the action. Everything else about it was... well... shitty. I just enjoy your movie reviews and I imagine that you would get very upset in a Thor review. and that's always fun XD
Eastenders the storyline is the fucking same shit recycled over and over - the storylines are always "who's the father" and people who watch it can except someone has fucked every person in the square, and nothing wrong with it. Then there is who killed someone , as if it will happen in life. Then the fuckwits that watch it get so excited by who is the father even though it happens all the time, and go out and buy soap mag to find out!
interestingly & factually enough though, soaps arent limited to gh all my children, etc; most watched DALLAS in the late 70s (remember "who shot Jr?") & even Smallville aka superman is a soap (with cool special effects); also, some of the acting on soaps is pretty good; as a matter of FACT, the King of Kung Fu, Bruce Lee used to watch general hospital with his wife, linda & bruce Obviously very Manly which proves that soaps can be enjoyed by Anyone.
I completely agree with you. I don't watch much TV either. Soap operas and most "Reality TV" are the worst. As you stated, soaps pander to stereotypes and simplistic, unrealistic cultural expectations. I despise the romance genre for much the same reason. The characters are two-dimensional, and the genre as a whole reinforces outdated gender roles. That is particularly annoying and distracting to me, considering I typically differ significantly from what a female stereotypically should be.
I think I've just figured out that lunatic Checkm(x3)
As you said, absolutist adherence to specific templates of what people are and are not leads to utter pig headed unwillingness to accept change or abiguity in people or reality.
Based on what Checkm has said in his video/comments et al, he seems unable or unwilling to realize the difference between sex as a biological seperation of species based on genitalia and gender as a set of sociological rules or assumptions...
@GlasgowPhilosipher ...of 'maleness' or 'femaleness' and how the two should interact. These templates are as one so far as he's concerned, ergo his saying things like 'we can't treat gays like men' or 'we can't pretend dykes are the same as straight girls'
It would seem that his definitions of male and female are ironclad, which added to his assumption that gay men are somehow 'female minded' and vice versa, leads to this bigotry, as though 'male' is a specific tribe...
@GlasgowPhilosipher ... with very specific rules based around how they treat each other and where they put their dicks, the problem is he doesn't realize that these assumptions are purely social and do not represent the template of masculinity.
I almost feel sorry for him, his assumptions are so rigid that he has no idea what to do when they are challenged so he just gets confused and lashes out in anger like the fucking neanderthal he is!
... television writers and executives (i don't know, whoever makes this stuff). If that is how people actually acted or how human brains worked no one would ever survive, the human race would cease to function properly it is so ridiculous! There are few things that are as stupid as soap operas. What they do is take something and totally leave out any trace of humanity or human decency or any trace of normal human brain function and do things that no one would do (again people...
Soap Operas really are harmful to people's mental health. What it amounts to is emotional abuse for the sake of making money. What they do is try to get people so upset by putting in some screwed up crap that only a heroin addict could think up so that impressionable people will get all upset and think they have to watch it to see what happens and then the same thing just keeps happening over and over so they can try and keep people hooked in to this cycle of abuse instigated by these shitty..
I completely and totally agree with you, especially about the minority characters. This is especially true of Australian soaps, which are even more abhorrent than british ones. Fantastic critique as usual!
Sometimes I fear that even if humanity broke free of all of this and expanded across all of existence, the very finite nature of time and space would become a final, inescapable constraint upon us. I doubt we'll make in America would it that far, though. We're even more stuck in a rut than you guys, and our rut is littered with racism, classism, anti-intellectualism and petty greed.
Hell of a good vid, as good as a soap with the hero as a tax avoider.
Other thoughts I had are that the actors in soaps must be real ghouls, and, of course the famous one is that in soaps you never see a hint of TV. In truth if the storyline featured TV as a component of dialogue or part of the set, then the audience would concentrate on THAT TV, rather than the production of the soap opera.
This was a good and intelligent video up until about 21 minutes, at which point it became the most inspiring video I've ever seen. I mean that with complete sincerity. It struck a chord with me.
Ever since I was old enough to consider matters like this, which was about 8,9 years ago, I've felt excatly the enprisonment that you're talking about. I don't want to be 'normal' but I'm not good enough to be anything else.
Maybe, just maybe, I am. But I've always been taught different.
I am going to film to day a response (of sorts) to this video. You raise a very good point about TV telling you what you should want. I completely agree with you. But lets try looking at this from another angle. The same argument you make, but from a slightly different way of looking at things. You will find very close ties to both.
I disagree - maybe some of the earlier stuff does but the later stuff (voyager etc) seem to be just putting the characters into situations in which western values always come out as the absolute best.
my mum watches the new star trek thingy (the prequel to all the others, can't remember it's name) and it is going on about the evils of eugenics.
why can't we have a good fiction in which eugenics is shown in a good or at least a not completely bad light?
another had slavery involved. how exactly is it that a civilisation that can travel between planets can't figure out that it is much cheaper to build machines to do their heavy lifting?
and yet these sorts of things keep bringing up situations in which there is an obvious good vs bad dilemma. why not have something a bit more complex, something where the morality of the situation is not so clear.
Very interesting video. I concur stongly with your views here. I saw an internet article somewhere that tackles the societal problems you bring up. It said that two groups of people in the world, divisible by myers-briggs typology, are those who wish to transcend the status quo, or change the system, and those who simply accept and work within the system. The groups were respecitively intuitive and sensing types, where the latter comprises 2/3 to 3/4 of the population.
So many people are simply to afraid to step outside their comfort zones, their little box that makes them feel safe and completely protected. I work third shift at a retail store and I see the same people come into our store at almost the same time and buy the exact same things and I wonder if I were to take away an item or were I to add one would they simply crumble to pieces or would they be able to cope with the change.
I agree, soaps and people talking about them in a realistic manner is the nth degree of annoyance. Just like bath soap it hurts when it hits my eye's!...Maybe the clue is in the name? haha!
This reminds me of when the Doug Anthony Allstars went to London and Revealed that Daphne, from Neighbors, was going to die in a tragic car accident ...it was a spoiler that didn't go down very well at the time....
I must say, I find something at least humorous in east enders, living here in Australia our soaps are all so happy, sunny , bright and amazing, at least east enders is slightly miserable, I can see some enjoyment in that, albeit in a very kitsch and exploitive way.
I think there is some wonderful television out there, and some wonderful things that have tremendous gay characters, six feet under and the wire amongst others.
I completely agree, too many older generations were passively forced upon these programs. All the while subconscious false behavioral associations forming.
Familiar misery preferable to unknown consequence. That pretty much sums up society at large, kudos to you. You strike me as someone it would be fun to argue with, unfortunately you have not yet said anything I've taken exception to, I'll have to keep watching.
@CheryltheOCM Since when did familiar misery rule out unknown consequence? Sounds like procrastination for the sake of comfortable ignorance. Or not. ish...
While I agree *completely*, this did seem somewhat uncomfortably ragey :p I do understand the despair at the infatuation of sheeple with soaps though, it's a depressing reflection on our species.
always love these, but the end feels that it was cut off quite abruptly :( I do tend to agree with you with regard to soap operas. It's the same old shit rehashed with a lot of stereotypical crap that does us no good to continue. I generally stick to the same genres as you, though I do have more of an affection for sci fi as you know hehe.
I was on a fucking SOCIOLOGY course at college where we studied and discussed the nature and manner of social control and how the various institutions of culture shape us and our assumptions of self, and broke them down to their component parts and no-one else on the course fucking cared!
I was engaging with the concepts and broadening my inderstanding while in vain hope that I might meet someone like myself (or even like you) with whom I could relate and discuss these opinions, fat chance!...
...instead every one of them was mindless conformist sheep who didn't incorporate any of the content or relate with it, kuz they were too busy getting pissed, or reading about celebs, kuz that's what people do (spot the sarcasm) so instead they just wrote down exactly as they were told and regurgitated the words they didn't understand on cue and it was palpable!
The very most I got out of that course was to expand my aspects of my writing with the concepts I read about...
... and better characterize the little people who live in my head, who frankly made for far more engaging company!
If I've ever seemed fanboyish or hero-worshipping in previous comments I left you, then this is why. Finally finding someone on a similar intellectual level to myself after wading through the shitheads :)
just 9 more days and I can babble the face off you
what you've said is really interesting i must think more about what you've said, thank you so very much for all your work be it reviews or be it this.
"Soaps probably cause brain damage" is what I often say to my mother who watches that crap. These "shows" are for the brain dead. it can't have one ounce of quality in them when the makers have to produce one episode a day.
I'm to this day surprised how anyone can watch soaps.
You may be interested in checking out the radio free skaro podcast they did on hetero normatism in television (it was made just after Ianto's fate in Torchwood). It was very informative for me.
I find what you say very intelligent and true. Do write a script and practice this or do you just turn the camera on and go?
magmarock64k 1 month ago
@magmarock64k
It's just a case of turning the camera on, talking and seeing what happens. I find if I try to script or pre-empt my videos in any way they don't work.
ExaggeratedElegy 1 month ago
@ExaggeratedElegy
Oh, thank you. I must say that I'm really impressed then. Because I've tried doing that sort of thing but as soon as there's a camera in my face I freeze up and can't say anything/
magmarock64k 1 month ago
im in America thinking that England didnt have this problem im legitimately sad knowing that general mindset extends across the pond
fkdurmoms 2 months ago
bro if u think east enders is bad u dont even understand. at least in east enders they interact with real environments in American soaps everything is a backdrop or a set even if they are outside and every type of human interaction or communicative effort suggests this mixture of ignorance, entitlement, and complete superficiality that is synonymous with American culture. there bad to the point were i didnt even consider east enders a soap until i watched this video
fkdurmoms 2 months ago
Watch Soap Operas? Just cut my wrists open and let me Bleed Out!!!
GREGHIGGS1 2 months ago
Damn! Last I checked, Soaps in America were just about who was sleeping with who!
MsAnnoyingComment 2 months ago
Wow! You really hate Soaps! I had a good laugh. Very clearly expressed.
fyl24 3 months ago
this guy is so underated
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TheShyJewishGuy 7 months ago
check out a anime's called berserk and monster trust ExaggeratedElegy u will like them
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great vid i give this a 10 out of 10
FIGHTFANNERD3 7 months ago
Watching television with the sound off is much more bearable.
ricmoz 8 months ago
AHHH I love your videos, but every time they start. I jump at the picture, I don't know why.
candyqueenify 8 months ago
BULLOCKS! Best line ever. But on a whole I agree with you especially what you say about societal stagnation. I don't hate soaps but I definately get annoyed when people talk about them as if they are the word of god. Best of luck on your acting.
tickycup 9 months ago
I can't stand soap operas or dramas (except sci fi). The 3 main soaps in this country - Eastenders (Suicide Square), Coronation St (Valium St) and Emmerdale (Labotomy) are purile, negative, insidious, destructive, nasty, vicious, pointless, small minded, petty, ridiculous, awful, RUBBISH!
I absolutely detest them with a passion seemingly to the same extent you do. You would have to pay me £200 to watch an episode of these screaming banchees earning their living portraying misery.
pilates21 9 months ago
I hope you do a review of the new Thor film. I, personally, only liked it for the action. Everything else about it was... well... shitty. I just enjoy your movie reviews and I imagine that you would get very upset in a Thor review. and that's always fun XD
kinshirodan001 9 months ago
Eastenders the storyline is the fucking same shit recycled over and over - the storylines are always "who's the father" and people who watch it can except someone has fucked every person in the square, and nothing wrong with it. Then there is who killed someone , as if it will happen in life. Then the fuckwits that watch it get so excited by who is the father even though it happens all the time, and go out and buy soap mag to find out!
sempervivum44 10 months ago
interestingly & factually enough though, soaps arent limited to gh all my children, etc; most watched DALLAS in the late 70s (remember "who shot Jr?") & even Smallville aka superman is a soap (with cool special effects); also, some of the acting on soaps is pretty good; as a matter of FACT, the King of Kung Fu, Bruce Lee used to watch general hospital with his wife, linda & bruce Obviously very Manly which proves that soaps can be enjoyed by Anyone.
62Elvis 11 months ago
I completely agree with you. I don't watch much TV either. Soap operas and most "Reality TV" are the worst. As you stated, soaps pander to stereotypes and simplistic, unrealistic cultural expectations. I despise the romance genre for much the same reason. The characters are two-dimensional, and the genre as a whole reinforces outdated gender roles. That is particularly annoying and distracting to me, considering I typically differ significantly from what a female stereotypically should be.
LichFox 1 year ago
I think I've just figured out that lunatic Checkm(x3)
As you said, absolutist adherence to specific templates of what people are and are not leads to utter pig headed unwillingness to accept change or abiguity in people or reality.
Based on what Checkm has said in his video/comments et al, he seems unable or unwilling to realize the difference between sex as a biological seperation of species based on genitalia and gender as a set of sociological rules or assumptions...
GlasgowPhilosipher 1 year ago
@GlasgowPhilosipher ...of 'maleness' or 'femaleness' and how the two should interact. These templates are as one so far as he's concerned, ergo his saying things like 'we can't treat gays like men' or 'we can't pretend dykes are the same as straight girls'
It would seem that his definitions of male and female are ironclad, which added to his assumption that gay men are somehow 'female minded' and vice versa, leads to this bigotry, as though 'male' is a specific tribe...
GlasgowPhilosipher 1 year ago
@GlasgowPhilosipher ... with very specific rules based around how they treat each other and where they put their dicks, the problem is he doesn't realize that these assumptions are purely social and do not represent the template of masculinity.
I almost feel sorry for him, his assumptions are so rigid that he has no idea what to do when they are challenged so he just gets confused and lashes out in anger like the fucking neanderthal he is!
I think I have fodder for my next video now :D
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would be brain donors if they acted like that) so that well as I explained in the last part of the first entry I wrote. :-)
leapinglemur452 1 year ago
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would be brain donors if they actually acted like that) to try and get people upset and well as I mentioned earlier in the post LOL. :-)
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... television writers and executives (i don't know, whoever makes this stuff). If that is how people actually acted or how human brains worked no one would ever survive, the human race would cease to function properly it is so ridiculous! There are few things that are as stupid as soap operas. What they do is take something and totally leave out any trace of humanity or human decency or any trace of normal human brain function and do things that no one would do (again people...
leapinglemur452 1 year ago
Soap Operas really are harmful to people's mental health. What it amounts to is emotional abuse for the sake of making money. What they do is try to get people so upset by putting in some screwed up crap that only a heroin addict could think up so that impressionable people will get all upset and think they have to watch it to see what happens and then the same thing just keeps happening over and over so they can try and keep people hooked in to this cycle of abuse instigated by these shitty..
leapinglemur452 1 year ago
I completely and totally agree with you, especially about the minority characters. This is especially true of Australian soaps, which are even more abhorrent than british ones. Fantastic critique as usual!
BoogiepopPrime 1 year ago
Sometimes I fear that even if humanity broke free of all of this and expanded across all of existence, the very finite nature of time and space would become a final, inescapable constraint upon us. I doubt we'll make in America would it that far, though. We're even more stuck in a rut than you guys, and our rut is littered with racism, classism, anti-intellectualism and petty greed.
AlanGarou 1 year ago
Hell of a good vid, as good as a soap with the hero as a tax avoider.
Other thoughts I had are that the actors in soaps must be real ghouls, and, of course the famous one is that in soaps you never see a hint of TV. In truth if the storyline featured TV as a component of dialogue or part of the set, then the audience would concentrate on THAT TV, rather than the production of the soap opera.
Sliptodance 1 year ago
soap operas are basically cheap story lines with pornstar acting
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Gears2040 1 year ago
oh god i'm wasting my life
barutazaru 1 year ago
This was a good and intelligent video up until about 21 minutes, at which point it became the most inspiring video I've ever seen. I mean that with complete sincerity. It struck a chord with me.
PrezTFnet 1 year ago
You really should get into a kind of "intelligent motivational speaking"
That was a very interesting video, more so then I thought from the title and first half.
Great stuff, keep on bringing it forth!
MrSkywarp 1 year ago
Ever since I was old enough to consider matters like this, which was about 8,9 years ago, I've felt excatly the enprisonment that you're talking about. I don't want to be 'normal' but I'm not good enough to be anything else.
Maybe, just maybe, I am. But I've always been taught different.
You're an inspiration (:
Bluedragon111 1 year ago
My dad would love you
GWolfV3 1 year ago
I am going to film to day a response (of sorts) to this video. You raise a very good point about TV telling you what you should want. I completely agree with you. But lets try looking at this from another angle. The same argument you make, but from a slightly different way of looking at things. You will find very close ties to both.
WolfKang1 1 year ago
I bet you watch Louis Theroux :D
Brascofarian 1 year ago
i 100% agree George! thats why i watch things like Star Trek, it always challanges humanity and what it means to be Human!
NCC63549 1 year ago
@NCC63549
I disagree - maybe some of the earlier stuff does but the later stuff (voyager etc) seem to be just putting the characters into situations in which western values always come out as the absolute best.
my mum watches the new star trek thingy (the prequel to all the others, can't remember it's name) and it is going on about the evils of eugenics.
why can't we have a good fiction in which eugenics is shown in a good or at least a not completely bad light?
LemonsInTheShade 1 year ago
@LemonsInTheShade
another had slavery involved. how exactly is it that a civilisation that can travel between planets can't figure out that it is much cheaper to build machines to do their heavy lifting?
and yet these sorts of things keep bringing up situations in which there is an obvious good vs bad dilemma. why not have something a bit more complex, something where the morality of the situation is not so clear.
LemonsInTheShade 1 year ago
Very interesting video. I concur stongly with your views here. I saw an internet article somewhere that tackles the societal problems you bring up. It said that two groups of people in the world, divisible by myers-briggs typology, are those who wish to transcend the status quo, or change the system, and those who simply accept and work within the system. The groups were respecitively intuitive and sensing types, where the latter comprises 2/3 to 3/4 of the population.
doedicurus 1 year ago
So many people are simply to afraid to step outside their comfort zones, their little box that makes them feel safe and completely protected. I work third shift at a retail store and I see the same people come into our store at almost the same time and buy the exact same things and I wonder if I were to take away an item or were I to add one would they simply crumble to pieces or would they be able to cope with the change.
xaviernailo 1 year ago
isn't it about time soap operas just died out as well as big brother?
MrKARSEERUS 1 year ago
I agree, soaps and people talking about them in a realistic manner is the nth degree of annoyance. Just like bath soap it hurts when it hits my eye's!...Maybe the clue is in the name? haha!
ackwacker 1 year ago
This reminds me of when the Doug Anthony Allstars went to London and Revealed that Daphne, from Neighbors, was going to die in a tragic car accident ...it was a spoiler that didn't go down very well at the time....
DingoBabyEat 1 year ago
I must say, I find something at least humorous in east enders, living here in Australia our soaps are all so happy, sunny , bright and amazing, at least east enders is slightly miserable, I can see some enjoyment in that, albeit in a very kitsch and exploitive way.
I think there is some wonderful television out there, and some wonderful things that have tremendous gay characters, six feet under and the wire amongst others.
damnyouhussies 1 year ago
Fantastic video
monfitz 1 year ago
I completely agree, too many older generations were passively forced upon these programs. All the while subconscious false behavioral associations forming.
Terra7Q 1 year ago
I listen to all you guys who have something to say as opposed to watching TV.
I just watch some sports, some random stuff on SyFy Channel (Ghost Hunters and junk like that)....I could happily survive without a TV.
vengeance1701 1 year ago
Hahaha, try brazilian soap operas... or colombian, they´re funny and have GREAT actors... and I´m not being sarcastic.
transfan1988 1 year ago
leave the stereo-typical and bad and perdictable acting where it belongs-in "professional' wrestling
BigTransFan 1 year ago
Okay ok, so Lucas Johnson didn't get his big comeuppance, its no big deal ;)
RiFFxxx 1 year ago
Familiar misery preferable to unknown consequence. That pretty much sums up society at large, kudos to you. You strike me as someone it would be fun to argue with, unfortunately you have not yet said anything I've taken exception to, I'll have to keep watching.
CheryltheOCM 1 year ago
@CheryltheOCM Since when did familiar misery rule out unknown consequence? Sounds like procrastination for the sake of comfortable ignorance. Or not. ish...
balucious 1 year ago
@balucious ah the "ish" hard to argue with that logic :-)
CheryltheOCM 1 year ago
@CheryltheOCM Got to cover all bases!
balucious 1 year ago
While I agree *completely*, this did seem somewhat uncomfortably ragey :p I do understand the despair at the infatuation of sheeple with soaps though, it's a depressing reflection on our species.
AleximusMaximus 1 year ago
always love these, but the end feels that it was cut off quite abruptly :( I do tend to agree with you with regard to soap operas. It's the same old shit rehashed with a lot of stereotypical crap that does us no good to continue. I generally stick to the same genres as you, though I do have more of an affection for sci fi as you know hehe.
tattooskin72 1 year ago
You are really amazing to listen to... Good with words and yet quite straight to the point. And I have to say I like most of our opinions.
MagneticLehrak 1 year ago
I was on a fucking SOCIOLOGY course at college where we studied and discussed the nature and manner of social control and how the various institutions of culture shape us and our assumptions of self, and broke them down to their component parts and no-one else on the course fucking cared!
I was engaging with the concepts and broadening my inderstanding while in vain hope that I might meet someone like myself (or even like you) with whom I could relate and discuss these opinions, fat chance!...
GlasgowPhilosipher 1 year ago
...instead every one of them was mindless conformist sheep who didn't incorporate any of the content or relate with it, kuz they were too busy getting pissed, or reading about celebs, kuz that's what people do (spot the sarcasm) so instead they just wrote down exactly as they were told and regurgitated the words they didn't understand on cue and it was palpable!
The very most I got out of that course was to expand my aspects of my writing with the concepts I read about...
GlasgowPhilosipher 1 year ago
... and better characterize the little people who live in my head, who frankly made for far more engaging company!
If I've ever seemed fanboyish or hero-worshipping in previous comments I left you, then this is why. Finally finding someone on a similar intellectual level to myself after wading through the shitheads :)
just 9 more days and I can babble the face off you
GlasgowPhilosipher 1 year ago
what you've said is really interesting i must think more about what you've said, thank you so very much for all your work be it reviews or be it this.
deceptifan1993 1 year ago
soaps.havent watched any for more than a decade now
darthslain 1 year ago
hey George
"Soaps probably cause brain damage" is what I often say to my mother who watches that crap. These "shows" are for the brain dead. it can't have one ounce of quality in them when the makers have to produce one episode a day.
I'm to this day surprised how anyone can watch soaps.
ciao - Vince
VincentWomack 1 year ago
Hey George exactly how I feel about soaps.
You may be interested in checking out the radio free skaro podcast they did on hetero normatism in television (it was made just after Ianto's fate in Torchwood). It was very informative for me.
Ralph, please never change. :)
BrianVonDoom 1 year ago
I manage to avoid soaps by virtue of not owning a TV!
-Ralph
stardub 1 year ago