Latin lesson: pronounciation

[TeneoIamTandem]

so does that mean you pronounce iam as jam? SERIOUSLY want an answer to this.

[Dadza10]

V = u in english

[Dadza10]

no j in latin

[Dadza10]

ae = aye

[silversnow2008]

@MorsCorporis

How do yo know where to put the accent in a word if Latin doesn't use accent marks?

[psalmsurfer1]

People never cease to amaze me..did he not say he is a beginner student of latin? Post videos yourself if you're such experts on the language..people make me angry.

[rebinator19]

you rock bro, thank you

[bigbenwoo]

Not all "versions" of Latin contain the letter "z".

[murqtaad]

gratias

[murqtaad]

 salve. esne paratus?

[albedoshader]

German Church Latin:

'paːtεʁ  'nɔstεʁ, kviː εst ın 'tsøːlis, 'zanktifi'tseːtuʁ 'noːmεn 'tu:.um.

[albedoshader]

@albedoshader: What the rest of the world might know better instead:

'paːtεr 'nɔstεr, kviː εst ın 'tʃæːlis, 'sanktifi'tʃεtur 'nɔːmεn 'tu:.um.

[paulpaulxtre]

Why should you say u = oo ? I'm german and in my latin class we pronaunce it just like the normal (german) u. Maybe I'ts because german is like latin, the same way written as it sounds /is pronunced and the two alphapets are almost simelar. We also say ä instead of e (ae). I can't explain how to articulate the letter.

It could also be that both ways are correct. We'll never know....whom should we ask?

greetings paulpaul

[paulpaulxtre]

Why should you say u = oo ? I'm german and in my latin class we pronaunce it just like the normal (german) u. Maybe I'ts because german is like latin, the same way written as it sounds /is pronunced and the two alphapets are almost simelar. We also say ä instead of e (ae). I can't explain how to articulate the letter.

It could also be that both ways are correct. We'll never know....whom should we ask?

[jt21419]

Only one country has Latin as its national language. So shouldn't the Vatican pronounciation be the standard pronounciation, never mind reconstructions or indeed the way the Romans once pronounced it ?

[NatusPrimus]

It's funny how some people are bashing on the Ecclesiastical Latin pronunciation...get real...every language evolves in speech and spelling, including LATIN, until it fell out of use except in the Church! To those who demand purity of classical Latin, why aren't they speaking/writing in Old English?? It's the same principle. Classical pronunciation and spelling evolved into the "Italianized" version, so deal with it! The Ital. version sounds SO MUCH better and sounds more masculine.

[Andi599]

hmm I was always told the 'v' was pronouced like a 'w' o.0

[alibean101]

@Andi599 so was I

[Greatmk]

c = KH !

[pr4bb7]

Abecedarium Phoneticum Internationale utere! C semper est /k/! Vocalis longitudo explana!

[rybnik100]

In classic latin there was no "j", but only "i" and c=k, not "ch" like in italian

[Katara888Energy]

@rybnik100

In classical Latin, the j was pronounced the same as in Ecclesiastical, like consonantal y.

[Katara888Energy]

@rybnik100

Eve though, it was written I.

[Gabriele1979]

pronuncia medievale del cazzo

[patukka24]

a as in art or arm.... e as in met, let.. i as in hit, sit

a as in lord, short u as in soon, boo... you could learn finnish with this :D

[MetalSwitch95]

Wrong. C's are always hard C's. Always.

[2VtEAf]

for the r, it's a little bit like the "tt" in better with american accent or butter

[Arissef]

A great misconception is the failure to distinguisj between long and short vowels. Short A is like U in CUT (English word), long A is like A in ART (you're right in this case). Short E is like E in LET (right!) long E is like A in CAT. Long I is like I in SIT, long I is like EE in DEED or EA in READ. Short O is like O in STOP. Long O is like O in LORD (right!). Short U is like OO in FOOT or WOOD. Long U is like OO in DOOM.

[BGDboy90]

when its before e,i,y,ae,oe, C is pronounced as the voice TS,and there is no J in latin language,just like there is no voice SH.

[BGDboy90]

1:16 why is so dificult for english and americans to pronounce R?

[LotusArcanjo]

@BGDboy90 It's because there is no trilled R in english, it's kinda like how spanish speakers have a hard time pronouncing Z in zero... They only have the S sound so without practice it always sounds like cero, which is what they say in Spanish. LOL

[BGDboy90]

@LotusArcanjo Thats not an excuse! There are no voices J, SH, TSH or ZH in greek language but they can pronounce them normaly like any other letter...its not about that but because native english speakers are retarded, especialy the americans

[ViquezBonicheSanJose]

@BGDboy90 because you exagerate it way to much and it doesn't sound natural.

[theawesomesausage]

ae is more like "aye" (a-i)

[Twinz98]

You're wrong. In true latin (latin spoken by romans) C = K. You're explaining a italian-modern-eclesiastic-wei­rd pronunciation.

By the way AE ≠ OE ≠ E.

[robasci00]

freakin Italian?? my dear idiot, Rome were and is in Italy, maybe you are referring to the archaic, early latin pronunciation, similar to greek (ah, as the best pronunciation for ancient greek is the moder one)

[mario54671]

@robasci00 Yes, the pronunciation I'm referring to is the one where the C is like our K, no "ch" or the "gn" thing that the Italians do. None of that. The Latin I'm referring to pronounces "gratias" the way it looks, not "grasias" as most (or all) Latin American countries pronounce the slightly modified Spanish version of "Thank you," "Gracias".

[ek7x129]

you couldn't have used a microphone and pronounce those yourself? cheap video...

[Spectonimous]

Lol there's no use 4 me at all 2 learning Latin since nobody really speaks it unless u r classifying scientific terms. I learn spanish but i'm only at lvl b.

[Kayis5]

Thank God someone finally realized that English speakers butcher Latin as well as every other language they encounter.

[shinzip]

how abt

'in excelsis deo' ??

/ek chel sis/ or /eks chel sis/ ?

[tsimos4eva]

Erm, I believe "C" is always pronounced as "K" (In classical latin that is) even before diphtongs. For example the sky: Caelum=Kehloom

[Monctonite]

it's incredible, I find , that many teachers of Latin do not speak the language properly. Some words in Latin are clearly very Italian in sound but others are not. I notice that even some very experienced Latin teachers just do not "get it". I also notice that some teachers fudge it- they speak softly and slur through the words. The best speakers and teachers of Latin are of course, the Roman Catholic clergy.

[Monctonite]

Caelum is K(eye) +loom or k + eye +loom= keye loom. Many Latin speakers forget to say" ooos " for us

[GDevourer]

@tsimos4eva like in word Caesar? or Cicero? lol

[ForWhomTheBellTolls5]

This isnt classical latin pronounciation, its a new-ish Church Latin. In Classical Latin, ALL "g"s and "c" are hard, and "v"s are pronounced as "w"

[WhoSaysWordss]

How to pronounce "Sapientia"? with "t" or "tz"?

[lm99990]

with tz

[WhoSaysWordss]

Thanks :)

[comit51]

Ave. Dico Latinum, et cogito est bonum, dicemur latinum!

[dexateu]

Uuh... If you wanted to say "I speak Latin and I think it is good that we speak Latin", it's not correct. First of all, the verb speak as in be able to speak a language is loquor, not dico. Dico is more like "say" than "speak" Second, you shouldn't use the adjectice here, and even if you did, it should be Latinam, because lingua is feminine. But it's best, and I think the only correct option as well, to use the adverb Latine. Third, cogito est is wrong. You can't have two conjugated verbs next

[dexateu]

to each other like that. There should be an ACI, and the verb is usually at the end of the clause: et cogito bonum esse, or, even better "et cogito bene esse"; So the whole sentence should look more like: Loquor Latine et cogito bonum (bene) esse quod loquimur Latine.

[MathewStory]

Dear MorsCorporis, I am under the impression that v is not the same as the English 'v' as in 'victor' but pronounced as a 'w' is in 'wood'. Is this not so?

[comit51]

It's right yes.

[VirDeiEtVirChristi]

they say that in classical Latin, "V" is always pronounced like an English "W". Different Latin sources will support one or both pronunciations. Its more of a preference nowadays. I like the sound of "V" as in "Vatican" but also like the historical meaning to "V" as in "Water".

[asschildassboy]

I think that it is impossible that the Latin "v" was pronounced as a "w". None of the romance languages have it. Only the anglicized ones like French do. But then again, it is only my theory and we will most likely never find out.

[iSPaLiTo]

@asschildassboy V was pronunced diferent later, like B, but originaly like english W, and it wasn't necesary to make a new letter

"Beati Hispani quibus bibere vivere est" Julius Caesar

" Lucky the Spanish for whom drinking is to live " (translated)

It means that in times of JC the Spanish were declaring V as B without any diference between "bibere" and "vivere"

[orlanjoyful]

@iSPaLiTo Gratias tibi ago, i didnt knew that point. ;)

[iSPaLiTo]

@orlanjoyful de nada

[orlanjoyful]

@iSPaLiTo @iSPaLiTo Joer, excusame, no sabia que hablases Español-Castellano, asi que venga un abrazo. ;)

[macabentotalyssa]

HMMM. . . How Will I Roll My Tongue?

[FredrikHeby]

Hi, what means this phrase: Et finis esset ditiis et origo virtutisus? :)

[lm99990]

@FredrikHeby the right quote is: Et finis et vitiis et origo virtutibus?

It means something like:

What's the ending, the living and the origins of virtues?

[kongming819]

Classical [not this video] > Ecclesiastical [this video]

[Tonty53]

Bello e utile.

5*

[EivindJacobsen]

gotta suck being english and wanting to learn other languages since pretty much all languages have to roll the tongue in one way or the other

[blondalicous]

at 0:50, the sentence isn't complete

"...but laetiTIa..."

Does that mean it's exempt from the TI rule??

[lm99990]

@blondalicous laetitita is pronounced  tsee like the other words.

[blondalicous]

Thanks :)

[kooddrynn]

Spanish and Romanian pronunciation are colse to The Ancient Latin too, because Latin is their mother after all.

[robasci00]

you can't relativize Latin pronuciation... Italian pronunciation is the closest to the ancient Latin, surely more closer than English or German... maybe because Latin has born and developed in Italian penisula?

[arkelanfall]

The pronunciation given here is the ecclesiastical pronunciation. It differs quite a bit from the pronunciation of classical Latin and I've never seen anybody use it except in ecclesiastical context. You should say that in the video.

[HEYTUBEMAN101]

Yes i agree with you. I actually prefer the classical Latin pronunciation :P.

[Blaseboniface]

@arkelanfall What you are saying about the difference between classical Latin and ecclesiastical Latin is accurate enough, but have you ever heard a Texan Priest and contrasted it with a French Priest saying the Tridentine Mass? Even though both are speaking ecclesiastical Latin I would argue the difference in sound is as great or greater than the difference between ecclesiastical and classical Latin.

[YouStoleMyTube]

Which pronunciation of Latin doesn't have the "Ch" sound that you hear in the word "Choose"? Because I would like to speak that way, to me, the sound "Ch" is the ugliest sound I've ever heard :S

[Hybirt101]

the ae really makes a "i" sound

[stevqtalent]

You cant generalize latin pronounciation. in germany, we pronounce it german.

e.g. 'nihil' with spoken 'h' like in house, or 'tignum' not like in nino but just like its written, as two letters.

[magisterdoctus]

Para el latín clásico no rige casi nada de lo que has dicho.

[AstysFortune]

0.57 "nihil" nee-keel???? "nihil" semper ut "nil", (Anglice scriptum neel) pronuntiatur. omnis secunda sententia de pronuntiatione Latina hic est falsa...!!!

[sportsman930]

especialy a pronounceation video

[Skurupmille]

1:14. Not difficult for me, I speak Swedish so

[Skurupmille]

Is est valde. Gratias ago vos huic video. Is eram valde benevolens

[lostraver]

Um ya to Learn Latin is not to learn the Midevil speech, but the classic thanks, but I am working on Classical, why?

Cuz that is what we use in scientific terms/ and uh well the classics are wrote that way

[mario54671]

GRRR NOOOOO!!! Fuck Medieval pronunciation, it's all about Classical Latin pronunciation. C is ALWAYS hard, there are no soft consonants...this is freakin Italian pronunciation, not Latin.

[KarntheHellknight]

Truth.

[mario54671]

Yeah..and since when did REAL Latin have the letter J?? That's weird...Like the name Joshua wouldn't be "Josue," but "Iosue" with an I, after all, the letter J DID come from the letter I.

[kissbutterkiss]

@mario54671 right, I was wandering after i looked at this clip,

how to prounounce Julius Caesar then.

iu:lius 'kajsar can't become iu:lius cheisar

[nuduaspiaggia]

@mario54671 Actually, "Classical" Latin is a reconstruction...

[mario54671]

@nuduaspiaggia So you're saying the Italian pronunciation is the "right" pronunciation?

[nuduaspiaggia]

@mario54671 No, but I am saying it is representative of late Roman pronunciation, that is, the pronunciation of Latin in and around Rome toward the end of the Empire.

[Lictorium]

@mario54671

The "freakin Italian pronunciation" is the only guaranteed pronunciation,

coming directly from the Roman Empire.

[Blaseboniface]

@mario54671 Calm down, brother. I like classical Latin pronunciation as well. Some of the Tridentine Mass prayers go back to the time of the Romans and probably were more classical, but we don't have to trash the Medieval. When some of the hymns were composed, they were composed with Medieval pronunciation in mind and just don't flow as well in the classical, though I myself prefer classical, except when it comes to the pronunciation of "v", which I suspect was more like a frictive "b".

[Katara888Energy]

@Blaseboniface

The fricative B showed up in classical Latin in the first century.

[nosojdjos]

when did classical pronunciation dissapeared ?

[nicksum29]

I find the whole "ch" and "v" thing very ugly.

[fiatvaluesbestowed]

check out Arrows73 I think thats more like it..Probably quite a course language to pronounce yet full of meaning.. I am a Brit and speak English the language of trickery..Unlike the Germanic/Latin where one puts a verb at each end and simply shovels German in between...lol

[fiatvaluesbestowed]

I suggest more like the plains tribes of what some now call Amaraca or whatever it is..

[fiatvaluesbestowed]

and of course the old favorite dinosaurs were blue

[upisrael45]

Just like in Arabic, double consonants are strengthened

[98009534ejbarrios]

ahahahaha or ajjajajajajaja- LATIN is so easy to learn, im a spanish speaker, and i feel sorry for english speakers, las lagrimas se me salen cuando mi idioma sale de uno de los mas hermosos y increibles leguajes, del antiguo mundo.

[Arrows73]

hahaha me too im from austria and german is similar pronounced to latin :D

[LANCERMAMCER]

hehe me too, i hate the classical pronounciation it sounds crappy tbh, well i'm from Italy and the pronounciation is almost exactly the same!

[1PostPoMoMaN1]

LOL, my version of classical pronunciation doesn't suck, exempli gratia.

[brainywierdo]

thats because spanish actually rooted from latin.........oh and you make me feel envious...

[LunaDanceEnt]

Latin is amazingly easy to read. Just read as if you never knew English!

Every letter is pronounced separately. And remember, 'c' Is always pronounced like the c in clock.

[sourapple39]

or like the c in cock...

[EndStupidity]

I studied Latin in high school and it helped me learn many more languages much easier than if I hadn't.

You see Latin roots everywhere, not just in English. Learning Latin will easily improve your English 10 fold.

paulneedzaeducation com

is a great resource for vocabulary and learning how Latin and English connect.

[graecoromanus]

To the big credit of MorsCorpis, ecclesiastical speakers - I've learned, are much less snobby, and more willing to help you than classical speakers. Maybe it's the religious demention. Classical latin forums can come off like eclusive clubs for those fluent already.

[graecoromanus]

MorsCorporis. Sorry for misspell.

[MaBu888]

Vacca has short a. Sancta vacca! :)

[forzamiticoginosa]

Hispanus? Lusitanus? ahahah...nova lingua Latina Italicum sermonem est!!

[fluffytom82]

Shouldn't you warn people that this is "church latin"-pronounciation? This is how they spoke Latin in the Middle Ages. Classical Latin is quite different (or so they taught me in school...) for example: ae = "aay" oe = "oy" t = always "t", never "ts" c = always "k", never "s" or "ch" cc, sc = "k", "sk" g = always the "g" as in go v = "w" or "u" etc...

[babisaura]

sì infatti...

that's not a great latin lesson: "Mors Corporis" has confused classical pronuncation with the ecclesiastc one!!

[graecoromanus]

I agree with you. He is clearly describing an ecclesiastical (church) Latin, which is the nearly wholesale Italian pronunciation understood at the Vatican. This pronunciation would likely be understood by Dante (1300ad), but might be a little arduous for Cicero (60bc). What I am learning (classical) almost completely agrees with the pronunciation examples that you have above (fluffytom82), accept maybe...

ae = samurAI, EYEball, brIGHt.

ei = vEIn, pAIn, stAIn, gAIn.

[W4rH3aR7]

Whence did you find this "neekeel" prononuciation of nihil (which is pronounced neeheel o nee-eel and you have a proof of that in its alternate form nil)?

[MaBu888]

Nee-eel is weird. No Romance language does hiatus mid-word, usually.

[W4rH3aR7]

That is, in late and medieval latin when the aspiration was not pronounced so that from "habeo" comes the prononuciation "abeo", which will then spawn "abio", "aggio" and finally the italian "ho" (pronounced "o")

[MaBu888]

Yeah. I am on the side of nil with long ee sound myself. I agree. The h sound was a very weak sound to begin with. I recorded some Ciceronian Latin 'videos' on my channel read by your's truely. I think Nichil is from how Germanic people pronounced Latin, at first having been a hyper-correction in the sense of the h being too strong and then being reinterpreted by Italian/Romance speakers as a Greek way to ch it all up. I think the ch was used as a spelling by the Germanic people handling Latin.

[W4rH3aR7]

Well, that's an interesting theory: I'd never thought of that. Now, curious as I am, I'm going and watch your videos.

[linatetlev]

it's very similar to portuguese pronunciation too!!! (of course, portuguese is a latin language :p)

[Ragis]

Yeah, but portuguese has many aditional vowel sounds. I think spanish and italian are the ones that sound almost like ancient latin.

[Cam50000]

Actually, V was usually pronounced like a W and C and G were always hard, even before e, i, and y.

[idesigntecdotcom]

That's how I learned it in college. Vini Vedi Vici would be pronounced with the W sound as in Win-ih Wed-ih Wick-ih. Although the Italian pronunciation sounds more "right" to me.

[1PostPoMoMaN1]

The Italian pronunciation would have sounded alien to Latin speakers 2000 years ago. Vowel length distinction and correct dipthongs are a must in accurate reproduction of Ciceronian Latin.

[FireRupee]

Yeah, but we're just so used to hearing the Italian pronunciation of it.. it just sounds funny with W's.. like Vici becomes Wiki.. as in Wikipedia. And Wenus.

[FireRupee]

1PostPoMoMaN1-- Alien, maybe, but I'm sure it'd still be fairly understandable (even with difficulty), excepting new words not from the time. We can still read and understand Middle English just fine, and the differences between Modern Icelandic and Ancient Icelandic are even less, though the time frames are very different.

[FireRupee]

I mean I might be completely wrong, but that's the direction I'm leaning right now.

[1PostPoMoMaN1]

I do agree that the Romans would see Italianate pronunciation to be weird. Some suggest that Oskan and Umbrian had the palatalized g and c/k sounds very early, before e and i whence the pronunciation of the late Latin. I tend to think in latin, palatalization was an independent phenomenon, not influenced by Oskan and Umbrian directly.

[vlvl21]

Can anyone translate this in Latin "Family above everything else"

Thank you.

[jamesfyo123]

familia apprime est

i believe that is "family is above all"

i could be wrong. but i think that is what it is

[jonmccord]

Good stuff for ecclesiastical Latin. I recommend you note in your description the fact that you are not doing "restored classical" pronunciation, but rather ecclesiastical pronunciation. Cheers

[christusvincit]

I too learned classical Latin in high school (two years). As I got into the church music scene, I had to make that transition to ecclesiastical Latin.

On a podcast that I do, relating to Catholic liturgy/music, I periodically do a "classical Latin" segment just for the sake of a laugh.

BMP

[UrNicknameSux]

So?? Just the letter G, C and many diphthongs

[strokerman01]

They must teach this quite differently in Ireland. Many of your sounds are incorrect. Unless, of course, you are speaking of eclesiastical latin, which differs from the classical latin I know.

[zuzieqz]

Yeah, I learned classical latin (in America), and it is not quite like this. This is more like ecclesiastical/more like what was taught in my Medieval class.

[bloodbuddy7]

That was really helpful, thank you:D! But what would make it even better would be some audio examples.

[troguski]

I have to agree. Why did you make a silent video? What's the point? There are many published guides to Latin pronunciation (classical and later).