As an inactive JW with iron overload, the doctor won't perform blood letings becaus they are overstretched, the Watchtower doesn't want me to go to the blood bank and donate blood, even though I'd choose the "Don't use my blood" option at the end of the questionnaire. Some lucky JW's with iron overload may have more comprehensive doctors and perform blood letings, but not in my small town. So, I'm a Watchtower blood policy victim. You heard this from a real JW.
@HUMBUMTEL There are three treatments used to chelate iron from the blood of those suffering your condition: Deferoxamine, deferasirox, and deferiprone. If you don't want to face DFing, thus losing your family and friends, you may wish to investigate those treatments; either that, or walk right out, telling them to stick it the way I did. =)
I love your very "logical" video clip. I'm an inactive JW, and I have iron overload, and the Watchtower doesn't want me to donate blood in order to lower my iron overload. And the blood doctor I see won't perform blood lettings at the hospital but wants me to donate blood at a blood bank. I told the doctor I'm not allowed. So either way I'm screwed thanks to the illogical Watchtower policy on blood
So they wont have their own blood spun into its base components, nor store their own blood in any state of composition. They will however take average joes blood in it component parts.
Trouble is the old ladies who push this utter nonsense around where I live are about as bright as a dark room, I feal mean telling them to pissoff. I just take the copy of watchtower and use it to pick my dogs shit up after it has had a crap in the local dog walking area.
others have already said it, but im gonna say it too. it is hipocritical to allow J.W.'s to accept a fraction but not to allow them to donate blood. if the whole world were J.W.'s, then there would be no way for them to get fractions.
i've always wondered why a witness cannot store their own blood for future use. i cannot find anything wrong with it. it can't be any worse than getting big bottles of albumin injected into you. at least its your own blood. if nothing else, the watchtower should declare it a concience matter.
transfusion of blood= the donating of blood to give to other people. JW's can use their own blood, have it filtered and have it put back to them. its in that weird card looking thing they get. its not just ''worldly people'' that they dont accept blood on, they wouldnt even accept blood from their very own people. to them blood is sacred and should be personal. so they can have their blood taken and filtered, just not shared with other people.
@l0st4ndc0nfused Apparently you are not paying attention. The Witnesses DO accept blood from worldly people - in the form of fractions. They do not donate to the supply of fractions however. You keep dodging the facts the way you've been programmed to.
@propagandatechniques lol what am i dodging? im certainly not the one dodging questions. and do you even know what they mean by ''fractions'' of the blood? probably not because you ''programmed''(whatever the hell you say) yourself to be TOTALLY arrogant towards reason. have a nice day :D
@l0st4ndc0nfused you forgot to mention that the blood has to be kept in circuit. it cannot be stored for future use. this issue came up when my dad was in the hospital. dr's wanted to take a little blood out and mix it with radioactive die and reinject. it was at this point i started to say, 'if the watchtower says 'conscience', that means you can do it. we shouldn't have to beat ourselves up over the letter of the law.
Thank God you posted this video so that everyone can see how contradictory and hypocritical the Watchtower blood policies are! Been trying to argue this point with JW's myself! They are so blind sighted is it unbelievable!
Is it permissable for a JW to have his blood temporarily removed for surgical purposes and then returned back to his body? If so, wouldn't that qualify as "eating/drinking one's own blood?"
When I received the update in the Kingdom Ministry about blood fractions, I thought it a bit odd. You can accept the components of blood, just not blood all together at once. That's like saying a Big Mac is unhealthy, and then proceeding to eat it ingredient by ingredient.
all of these religions that don't want to consume blood as it would (in their opinion) be against god should by their own terms be vegetarian, even in halal meat where the animal has been drained, blood cells still remain in the capillaries, so they are all still consuming blood if they like it or not.
An evil apostate! hahaha oh craig you're hilarious. stop beating up on these poor docile people. they're badly off enough. rofl.... WT will perish soon. mankind is becoming more and more knowledgeable as information spreads and penetrates further than we think. This psycho family will rip itself to shreds when the they begin to see past the cons of these elitists who sit on high and play them like pawns on a board.
A JW can't use his/her own blood, which BTW is the PERFECT match in case of an emergency, BUT can use fractions from so-called 'worldly' people! HAHAHAHA!!!!
That's right JW's, "hate" the 'world' but accept their generosity in saving your pathetic ass! HAHAHAHA!!!!
@poconoporker this comes under the "Gifts in men" clause lol. what a load of hogwash... the only people who ingest this poison are mindless and denied of the right to think JWs.
Did you read Flock Book 2010 on blood? U could prob get a vid out of that alone.
Absolutely blood is blood; blood fractions is blood. This fraction thing came out after I was long out of the WT. It was so goofy I didn't believe it.
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Flock Book 2010 also relates to this Bulgaria situation. The WTS swore to the Bulgarian government they had no religious sanction against member who accepted blood. FB2010 says there is. Check it out under the disfellowshipping-disassociation section.
@joepublisher1 I haven't heard that one yet, but anything is possible. I do not have the latest WT library. If they do not want to lose their flock, they better darn well change their doctrines.
@alamo11 The claim is that the steak has been drained, therefore okay. They will however use blood fractions extracted from a cow - just not their own.
Oh, Craig...that wrapup was priceless! This just has to utterly crawl into the head of a Dub...and when a public talk is just droning on and on....it has to creep up into the forefront of their consciousness, and BANG!
As an inactive JW with iron overload, the doctor won't perform blood letings becaus they are overstretched, the Watchtower doesn't want me to go to the blood bank and donate blood, even though I'd choose the "Don't use my blood" option at the end of the questionnaire. Some lucky JW's with iron overload may have more comprehensive doctors and perform blood letings, but not in my small town. So, I'm a Watchtower blood policy victim. You heard this from a real JW.
HUMBUMTEL 1 week ago
@HUMBUMTEL There are three treatments used to chelate iron from the blood of those suffering your condition: Deferoxamine, deferasirox, and deferiprone. If you don't want to face DFing, thus losing your family and friends, you may wish to investigate those treatments; either that, or walk right out, telling them to stick it the way I did. =)
propagandatechniques 6 days ago
I love your very "logical" video clip. I'm an inactive JW, and I have iron overload, and the Watchtower doesn't want me to donate blood in order to lower my iron overload. And the blood doctor I see won't perform blood lettings at the hospital but wants me to donate blood at a blood bank. I told the doctor I'm not allowed. So either way I'm screwed thanks to the illogical Watchtower policy on blood
HUMBUMTEL 1 week ago
So they wont have their own blood spun into its base components, nor store their own blood in any state of composition. They will however take average joes blood in it component parts.
Trouble is the old ladies who push this utter nonsense around where I live are about as bright as a dark room, I feal mean telling them to pissoff. I just take the copy of watchtower and use it to pick my dogs shit up after it has had a crap in the local dog walking area.
A great use for such rammel I find.
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youneekk 8 months ago
others have already said it, but im gonna say it too. it is hipocritical to allow J.W.'s to accept a fraction but not to allow them to donate blood. if the whole world were J.W.'s, then there would be no way for them to get fractions.
thetruthrover 8 months ago
baby killers (RH-)
ACLu71 9 months ago
i've always wondered why a witness cannot store their own blood for future use. i cannot find anything wrong with it. it can't be any worse than getting big bottles of albumin injected into you. at least its your own blood. if nothing else, the watchtower should declare it a concience matter.
thetruthrover 9 months ago
So they aren't allowed to contribute to the blood supply, yet they are completely free to pick and choose out of it at will LOL@ that
slippkapone 9 months ago
transfusion of blood= the donating of blood to give to other people. JW's can use their own blood, have it filtered and have it put back to them. its in that weird card looking thing they get. its not just ''worldly people'' that they dont accept blood on, they wouldnt even accept blood from their very own people. to them blood is sacred and should be personal. so they can have their blood taken and filtered, just not shared with other people.
l0st4ndc0nfused 9 months ago
@l0st4ndc0nfused Apparently you are not paying attention. The Witnesses DO accept blood from worldly people - in the form of fractions. They do not donate to the supply of fractions however. You keep dodging the facts the way you've been programmed to.
propagandatechniques 9 months ago
@propagandatechniques lol what am i dodging? im certainly not the one dodging questions. and do you even know what they mean by ''fractions'' of the blood? probably not because you ''programmed''(whatever the hell you say) yourself to be TOTALLY arrogant towards reason. have a nice day :D
failedpropoganda 9 months ago
@l0st4ndc0nfused you forgot to mention that the blood has to be kept in circuit. it cannot be stored for future use. this issue came up when my dad was in the hospital. dr's wanted to take a little blood out and mix it with radioactive die and reinject. it was at this point i started to say, 'if the watchtower says 'conscience', that means you can do it. we shouldn't have to beat ourselves up over the letter of the law.
thetruthrover 9 months ago
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tubian323 10 months ago
Thank God you posted this video so that everyone can see how contradictory and hypocritical the Watchtower blood policies are! Been trying to argue this point with JW's myself! They are so blind sighted is it unbelievable!
happydays906 10 months ago
Is it permissable for a JW to have his blood temporarily removed for surgical purposes and then returned back to his body? If so, wouldn't that qualify as "eating/drinking one's own blood?"
theapologeticfront 10 months ago
U know where i bet this all came from?..One of the 90 year old fossils on the governing body had a medical condition that required blood fractions.
"New light"!
glamourknight 10 months ago
When I received the update in the Kingdom Ministry about blood fractions, I thought it a bit odd. You can accept the components of blood, just not blood all together at once. That's like saying a Big Mac is unhealthy, and then proceeding to eat it ingredient by ingredient.
EDEIV 10 months ago
all of these religions that don't want to consume blood as it would (in their opinion) be against god should by their own terms be vegetarian, even in halal meat where the animal has been drained, blood cells still remain in the capillaries, so they are all still consuming blood if they like it or not.
ilifter 10 months ago
You just inspired me to go donate some of my APOSTATE blood. ;)
SpecialPioneerSmerf 10 months ago
I'll be interested to see the responses from JWs to this video, because this issue has confused me for some time.
carlyonv 10 months ago
An evil apostate! hahaha oh craig you're hilarious. stop beating up on these poor docile people. they're badly off enough. rofl.... WT will perish soon. mankind is becoming more and more knowledgeable as information spreads and penetrates further than we think. This psycho family will rip itself to shreds when the they begin to see past the cons of these elitists who sit on high and play them like pawns on a board.
wanitek 10 months ago
What horseshit! LOL!
A JW can't use his/her own blood, which BTW is the PERFECT match in case of an emergency, BUT can use fractions from so-called 'worldly' people! HAHAHAHA!!!!
That's right JW's, "hate" the 'world' but accept their generosity in saving your pathetic ass! HAHAHAHA!!!!
HYPOOOOOOO!!!!!!
poconoporker 10 months ago
@poconoporker this comes under the "Gifts in men" clause lol. what a load of hogwash... the only people who ingest this poison are mindless and denied of the right to think JWs.
wanitek 10 months ago
Did you read Flock Book 2010 on blood? U could prob get a vid out of that alone.
Absolutely blood is blood; blood fractions is blood. This fraction thing came out after I was long out of the WT. It was so goofy I didn't believe it.
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Flock Book 2010 also relates to this Bulgaria situation. The WTS swore to the Bulgarian government they had no religious sanction against member who accepted blood. FB2010 says there is. Check it out under the disfellowshipping-disassociation section.
anissueofursincerity 10 months ago
@anissueofursincerity I didn't read that. I'm in algebra right now. That's got me busy.
propagandatechniques 10 months ago
@propagandatechniques
You're a better man than I. I'm alge braless.
anissueofursincerity 10 months ago
globulins...LOL what a funny word... Now I know were all the gremlins come from! IT is in our blood...LOL
clnmyjts 10 months ago
@joepublisher1 I haven't heard that one yet, but anything is possible. I do not have the latest WT library. If they do not want to lose their flock, they better darn well change their doctrines.
propagandatechniques 10 months ago
Would they eat the blood that say is in a steak, or would they abstain from meat with blood in it.
alamo11 10 months ago
@alamo11 The claim is that the steak has been drained, therefore okay. They will however use blood fractions extracted from a cow - just not their own.
propagandatechniques 10 months ago
@propagandatechniques If it is eating blood, then its eating blood, pure and simple
alamo11 10 months ago
@propagandatechniques Eh? But the bible is talking about animal blood to begin with! No responses from JWs to this video yet...
carlyonv 9 months ago
Oh, Craig...that wrapup was priceless! This just has to utterly crawl into the head of a Dub...and when a public talk is just droning on and on....it has to creep up into the forefront of their consciousness, and BANG!
msm1876 10 months ago
LMFAO.I hart propagandatechniques.
Punkninja12 10 months ago