You ignorant scum with no identity, who told you that firts african homosapiens was black? and if you want to go back to the times when there were no nations no race go to african Neanderthals, hope they'll rape your pink multiciltural ass.
Oh, almost forgot, Fuck All those who doesn't like BNPand thinks it'a fascist party, or any other european patriotic alliance!
Wow certainly a few loose cannons let loose from the BNP on this thread, some better spoken than others I must say - at least Serena can type properly.
It's very intriguing really that members of the BNP - a party who's leader repeatably rants about Islam - are completely ignoring the crimes of Islamic Extremists in Iraq?
In fact you are completely ignoring this issue at all, and sound like the far left whom consider them freedom fighters as they kill their own people.
Re: the terrorists in Iraq. The point was that they are there because the occupiers either let them run wild to extend the occupation, or were too neglectful to realise that Iraq is surrounded by other Muslim countries and would be vulnerable. If some retarded dictator could secure Iraq, I fail to see how the allies with their military strategists and military might could not. HISTORY SHOWS THAT OCCUPATIONS RARELY WORK - obviously the allied govs haven't studied history and can't read
The Lancet, one of the most respected established medical journals globally, pub'd 2 studies on the effect of the invasion & occup. on the Iraqi mortality. They est. the number of excess deaths caused by the occup., direct and indirect (eg deteriorated infrastructure). Avg 601,027 deaths were owed to violence. 31% attributed to the allies, 24% to others & 46% unknown. The causes of deaths were gunshot (56%), car bomb (13%), other ordnance (14%), air strike (13%), accident (2%), and unknown (2%)
Wow right out of the George Galloway handbook - do you realise how many other studies put the number of deaths far lower, and the percent attribitle to the Allies far lower?
Also - please remember you are speaking to someone who is opposed to the war and always has been.
Im just not foaming from the mouth with hate for Labour such that I ignore the elephant in the room (Islamic Extremists)
@yington Well I can assure you that people are more likely to believe the journal of the British Medical Association and the a publication of John Hopkins University than they are the figures that were heralded by George Bush. In any case, even it was only half the figures The Lancet estimate, is the slaughter of 500,000 people OK just because it's not 1 million..
Don't be cruel to him; no-one is to blame for the destruction of Iraq but the Iraqis themselves...you have to agree with him otherwise he'll throw his rattle out LOL
shows the intelligence of ur typical BNP supporter, nick griffin gets nailed here and SouthBirminghamBNP posts it on youtube trying to promote the BNP, doh!
So what? Not all BNP members are lilly white...well neither are the members of any political party. Just look at what the mainstream parties have been up to....ripping our taxes off and doctoring MI6 documents to justify an illegal war. These people have more blood on their hands than anyone.
Jewish members, members in mixed race relationships, members who have mixed race kids, members who are disabled, members who are gay, etc. Sounds like a Nazi party doesn't it? *sighs*
My wife is Japanese and I am a white Briton who supports the BNP - We both voted BNP as we are scared to the growth of Islam in Europe and the decline of the West. We both met some BNP leafeters outside Richmond station last month and they were the politest, nicest people you could meet. Not at all racist. I wish the BNP luck - I wish the Tory party would fight for this country but it's sold out to political correctness years ago - The BNP seems to be our last chance!
No its Labour who are against Muslims. Its Labour who illegally invaded two Muslim countries and killed hundreds of thousands of them with their mate Bush...... and then followed that up with threatening handful more Muslim nations whilst turning its back on Palestinian massacres. So there you go, Labour have done much more malicious damage to Muslims. You are just too thick to recognize it
The terrorists were not bombing Iraq when Saddam was in power because he knew how to handle that country and the threat within it. It was only when the Labour party dummies and the Republican arses entered Iraq that it turned into a blood bath from day one. Like I said, no post-war plan because they couldn't really care less.
So you have admitted that it was the Iraqi terrorists that have killed the hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq. Thus contradicting your initial claim of:
""Its Labour who illegally invaded two Muslim countries and killed hundreds of thousands of them ""
This was the point wanted to show was complete bullshit, and I am glad I have shown it was so.
Oh, and watch that obsession with Labour that you clearly have. Get a life....
Not at all. The initial bombing campaign and battles in cities in northern Iraq created +100,000 deaths and countless injuries and orphans - and afterwards the Islamic fundamentalists got hold.
The security of any country during an occupation is the responsibility of the occupier - they failed miserably. In a way, you'd be tempted to think it was deliberate. However I think they just didn't care. An atrocity and a half committed against Muslims. If anyone pukes bull, it's you
Your claim about the initial bombing campaign causing 100,000 deaths is complete nonsense. Who told you this figure?
And I don't actually disagree with you on what a disgrace this war is.
But why are you finding it so grasp that the mass majority of the deaths and carnage in Iraq has been caused by lunatic Muslim extremists, desperate to earn a free route to heaven (according to their deluded beliefs)
Labour didn't kill the thousands. The terrorists did.
You have no argument. It's true that hese 'terrorists' (or whatever you label them) simply did not exist under Hussein's rule. The borders were more secure then and the deterrents in place for anyone causing mayhem were frightening. Either way, the combination of a UK/US onslaught and the ensuing US/UK incompetency in security has led to people being snuffed out on a daily basis. My theory is that the US/UK forces allowed this to extend the occupation. Personally, I feel you are naive
thats so laughable its ridciculous, did u not see the tv pictures when the war started, did u not see farenheit 9 11? why would terrorists (freedom fighters, war lords) kill their own people in the 100s of thousands?
very unintelligent argument on ur part, u didnt back it up with one fact, just wild sweaping statements, it wouldnt stand up in court put it that way, we can debate it if want when u have some facts, until then, u have a good day. bye.
You're definitely not a 'grown up', love. You're an uneducated, unaware and sad person that cannot see what a mess was created in Iraq by a bunch of imbecilic cretins who very clearly didn't know how many enemies they'd have to fight during the war and occupation ...and obviously they couldn't cared very much for the Iraqis people to take them into that abyss. Now go read a few books, it will do you good
Oh I know exactly what a mess has been created in Iraq. I am against the war, and always have been.
But i'm sick of fools like you who simply cannot grasp that the mass majority of the deaths in Iraq were caused by the Iraqi Terrorists, and that the UK and USA troops could have left far earlier if it weren't for such a sick number of people in Iraq willing to slaughter their own people.
They were simply ignorant of how many lunatics there were in that country.
Iraqi terrorists? Yeah...Iraqi terrorists that simply weren't visible during Saddam's reign. I wonder why...have you never asked yourself that question? What a fool you are
Labour & the Repubs were headed by two Christian fundamentalists that had an ultimate plan and that was to batter Muslim countries into submission and threaten the remaining Muslim nations in the middle east; a kind of 'cowing' effect. This 'cowing' effect was just another failure - it only created further fractures in the middle east. It was a Christian crusade against Muslims which brought suicide bombers to the UK for the first time.
Pity for the poor mites in Iraq that took the brunt
So the use of chemical weapons in Fallujah never happened?
Cities were never cluster bombed and firebombed? Iraqi women weren't raped and killed in Abu Ghraib? Iraqi men weren't tortured and killed in Abu Ghraib? "Improved Napalm" wasn't used? Iraqi kids weren't deliberately drowned in rivers?
Civilians weren't killed in mosques? There wasn't thousands injured by air strikes?
There really isn't 4.5 million Iraqi orphans with 500 000 living in streets without any home or family?
It was a rabid attack on an innocent nation by the Nazi Labour party who were led by a religious nut. My cousin is in the US airforce and has served in Iraq AND Afghanistan and he told me that the British troops were laughed at by because they were so under-supplied in terms of armour.
Heaven only knows how many American and British troops have been seriously injured as well as killed.
A war crimes trial is the only suitable fate for the Labour team that engineered that atrocity
I'd like to see some proof that Iraqi rebels have killed more than the invading forces. As has been pointed out, that they haven't got the capability to gas whole towns, use chemical weapons, cluster bombs, imprison hundreds and use other mass-attack monstrosities. I doubt suicide bombers, even if used daily, are as effective as multiple onslaughts by the troops with their latest weaponry. Don't forget to add on troop deaths and serious injuries to the stats.
shit mate u dont know much do you? labour were obviously too surreptitious for the likes of you werent they! LMAO.
The brutal back street boy Sadaam Hussayn and his tin pot army could obviously achieve something that the highly trained british and americans couldnt! I think you need to sit down and think it all through (snigger)
That's the strange thing Micky. Hussein, who was uneducated and hardly the pinnacle of intellect, managed to secure and control Iraq but the so-called military experts and strategists didn't seem to me able to work out how to secure the place post-war. There are theories that this was deliberate to provide excuses to continue with the occupation. In any case, if Labour could lie and manipulate weapons dossiers then they could certain 'accidentally on purpose' bugger up security.
If you go back far enough, we are all from Africa, Black White, Asian. Cradle of civilization! And to be frank, I would much rather live in Africa than my mostly white, bitter, racist town.
@watson2078 Saying we are all from africa denies people their own right to identity or cultural origin. Britain should take a leaf out of japans book, Japan regards itself as a one ethnicity country - Japanese and they therefore do not promote mass colonisation or immigration and any people who migrate have to adopt their lifestyle/language/laws. Unlike britain where if you live and claim benefits for a month your british through and through, absolute ridiculous bullshit.
Nick is on top form in this video. I've not been so interested in politics in years.
Here is someone with the backbone to tell it like it is and like Churchill being the antidote to Hitler, he has been given to us at just the right time.
I've taken an interest in Nick and the BNP this past couple of weeks because I felt they were the only party willing to stand up for what's right.
Investigating further I've not only found them to be implicitly anti-semitic but having way too many white supremacist links. Nick was a one time Holocaust denier. I was reeled in temporarily but couldn't stomach the racist bits.
i have seen it but Nick Griffin wasnt throwing eggs at the interviewer because he didnt agree. Unfortunately the very things she was accusing the asian girl was accusing bnp of she was guilty of herself - they are fascist not the bnp.
Like it or not, Nick was democratically elected (even if less voted for him this time). You can't pelt people with eggs because they won an election fair and square.
The only party who can stop the BNP are UKIP; when the critical mass of the electorate wake up and realise you can have great policies without getting involved in race issues.
We'll do it by logical debate and by setting an example, not by an Outrage style mob.
Anti semetic? Mrs Harrison is a jewish representative in essex and a fully paid up member of the bnp - get ur facts right. You are showing how brainwashed you have been by media coverage of the bnp.
No not at all. I'm very impressed by Nick's speeches and his depth of understanding-and how much this upsets our feminist/marxist government.
Mrs. Harrison may well be a fully paid member, but the fact remains she is not included in our 'indiginous' peoples.
But not only this, black and asian people are now indiginous, just like the successive waves of settlers in centuries past. It will not be practical to treat them as 'guests' while they were born here.
If you look up the meaning of indigenous I think you will find black or asians will never be indigenous people. i.e. Aboriginals are the indigenous people of australia, white australia are not and never will be. Having Jews in the BNP can only point out they are not racist or anti semetic
'Indiginous' means native or born in a country, according to my Collins Gem dictionary. This now means black and asian doesn't it?
As for the anglo-saxons, they haven't been in the British Isles that long. Less than 2000 years. The Angles came first around the time of Christ I believe; then the Saxons a few hundred years later. So they're as much migrants as blacks and asians.
naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place- this is a exact meaning word from word - if their parents came from India they are second/third generation immigrants- not indigenous
please stop talking nonesense- White European are indigenous to this country not a black person or an asian person. Black people are indigenous of Africa whether they now have a british passport or other they are not indigenous to these shores. Now move on from this subject
How can we say anyone is indiginous to the Isles? All of us migrated here at some point.
Where I do agree with the BNP-and why I very nearly voted for them in the election-is the forced imposition of foreign cultures incompatible with our own. Our desire to be of British *culture is being confused (deliberately by the media) with racism.
This does not of course include our wish to try *things of other cultures, like coffee (originally from the Muslims), curry and kebab.
"How can we say anyone is indiginous to the Isles? All of us migrated here at some point"
Well DNA evidence and Oxford Uni professors say differently. If your white and your grandparents were born in the UK, the chances of your roots in Britain going back 9000 years is around a 90% chance.
Either way, The Aboriginal tribes settled in Australia from India and Indonesia, but no one would dare say "there is no such as an indigenous Australian". Nobody would say that about the Chinese either
As for Curry's, kebabs and stuff like that, that is all very well and good and we wouldn't ban that. But British culture and our traditional values need to be preserved. Its all very well and good having a small China town in an urban city. But when that whole city becomes China Town, that is when we will have troubles, and i don't want that.
(Note as well, Curry was actually invented by the British in the Indian Raj to cover up the smell of rotten meat)
I thought it was the herbs they'd learned how to savour it with.
Yes I know what you mean about having the whole town taken over. That wouldn't be right. But we can do that by sending back the illegals and stopping more from coming in. The rest will gradually assimilate-unless of course their Muslim faith doesn't allow it...
That is what the BNP have said. We will deport the Illegals and the bogus Asylum seekers, this will save massive amounts in public services, etc etc.
Voluntary Repatriation will be in place. That policy has worked in Japan and has kept Japan overwhelmingly Homogeneous. Also, Voluntary Repatriation is on Britain's statute books.
I didn't know that about Japan, but come to think of it, they are homogonous aren't they. So overpopulated they probably couldn't take in a hundred let alone hundreds of thousands like we do!
Yes I heard one of your top guys mention it as something from the Wilson government they kept quiet about. Maybe it could have worked at that early stage but not after another four decades nearly. We shouldn't have started immigration in the first place. Should have been an outcry. Too late now.
I think the devil is in the detail. If the British public vote one day en mass for the BNP they won't realise this-just like they sleep walked into hard socialism when they thought they voted for Blair.
Griffin is good friends with Pat Richardson, who is Jewish and a BNP Cllr and member. Griffin also supported Israel's right to defend its borders during the "Gaza" conflict. Hardly something Hitler would support now is it?
Nick Griffin is a gangster, he should be primeminister, i vote bnp all the time because the bnp policies shit all over labour and others. britain to be britain.
Do you know every member of the BNP? Why are you in the BNP? Do you not agree that major reforms are needed in Parliament but not neccesarily the rise of a party stained with anti-semetic sentiment and racist slurs?
I know a lot of BNP members, we have our disagreements in a lot of fields. But that's what happens in ALL political parties. I am in the BNP because i am concerned about Immigration and the Islamification of the UK.
Your saying we have anti-Semitic sentiment and racist slurs.. What about Red Ken and his anti-Semitic jibe and various slurs carried out by LabCon MP's and cllrs.
You do know that Nazism is shortened version of Nazionalsozialismus. Roughly translated as NATIONAL SOCIALISM. Name might be different but the core theory is the same.
The BNP are like communists, they are idealists that have a vision which isn't wrong in itself and ideally would be pleasant, but things have gone to far now, to turn non-whites into second class citizens.
It would cripple the economy
eg. most of the doctors who spend their lives saving yours are non-whites and if the BNP came to power Britain would collapse in on itself.
The tories are a lot more sensible, lowering immigration drastically is better than ostrasizing minorities.
2) Any Immigrants who are here Illegally and break the law will be deported (Note most of the current Immigrants are white)
3) Those Legal Immigrants and foreign desendants will be offered grants to return to lands of ethnic origin (Also a policy in Japan, and also an Act of Parliament covers this in Britain)
4) Stop all Immigration except for exceptional circumstances.
Says nothing about colour in the actual Manifesto. Try it, look it up.
Ive seen enough in Asian cultures - Sikhs , Hindues who are anti muslim versus Islam .
Dont condemn the BNP when Asian culture is internally racist ie. thecaste system , its 3 main groups Sikhs , Hindues are at "war" with Islam both in the UK & in India .....
wake up England ,start defending yourselves .... Gurkha
The BNP won't kick anybody out unless they are terrorists. What is wrong with that. I'm a Jew and I'm a member of the BNP. The enemies of the BNP are far more dangerous to me than anything else in this country.
I think people would say jews are the most dangerous group of people. the bnp would put in ovens and ur supporting lol. i was right about u. u are a jew.
I support Israel because i believe the Jews have a right to a homeland, there original homeland was Israel. I don't support arming and beefing up Israel nor do i support Israel killing innocent people.
As for calling me a "Fascist", i have being called that millions of times and its boring. Find something fresh to say.
swamimans, You don't seem to realise that possibly the most prominant Fascists in history were the Nazi's who murdered Jews, Now you insult someone calling him a Jew, Who Is The Fascist?
Good Luck to the BNP but I reckon standing in elections is pointless for Nationalists - ZOG will never let us win - Dave Copeland and Tim McVeigh (RIP) had the right idea! I hate the Fenian IRA scum but the tactic of a political wing and a paramilitary wing working in unison is correct and could work in Great Britain.
Aye mate, it is indeed. I think by uploading this we can then smear all the old anti-BNP propaganda we see. Good ref for the party if you would like to call it that.
Mr Griffin is correct about the BBC. I find it hard to believe anything they report.
aranterranting 1 year ago 2
watson2078
You ignorant scum with no identity, who told you that firts african homosapiens was black? and if you want to go back to the times when there were no nations no race go to african Neanderthals, hope they'll rape your pink multiciltural ass.
Oh, almost forgot, Fuck All those who doesn't like BNPand thinks it'a fascist party, or any other european patriotic alliance!
wanttoseethemdead 1 year ago
"So how many bad apples are there in the BNP ?"
Griffin " I dont think there are many of US "
Nice fail !
MrMorgansgoat 1 year ago
Wonder how many rascists are in the main stream parties? fuckin 100s. That would be a nice "Panarama" SPECIAL LOL.
SGTGerman 1 year ago
Lot of losers here. Vote bnp
Mikeramos111 2 years ago
now with the Equality and Human Rights Commission asking for BNP to allow non whites into BNP i think they should change their name as
Black N Proud
skawashers 2 years ago
Wow certainly a few loose cannons let loose from the BNP on this thread, some better spoken than others I must say - at least Serena can type properly.
It's very intriguing really that members of the BNP - a party who's leader repeatably rants about Islam - are completely ignoring the crimes of Islamic Extremists in Iraq?
In fact you are completely ignoring this issue at all, and sound like the far left whom consider them freedom fighters as they kill their own people.
BNP = confused.
yington 2 years ago
Re: the terrorists in Iraq. The point was that they are there because the occupiers either let them run wild to extend the occupation, or were too neglectful to realise that Iraq is surrounded by other Muslim countries and would be vulnerable. If some retarded dictator could secure Iraq, I fail to see how the allies with their military strategists and military might could not. HISTORY SHOWS THAT OCCUPATIONS RARELY WORK - obviously the allied govs haven't studied history and can't read
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 4
Yup, I mean even the Roman Empire broke up. Not just because of the barbarian invasion but because of rebellions.
Redcarpet01 1 year ago
The Lancet, one of the most respected established medical journals globally, pub'd 2 studies on the effect of the invasion & occup. on the Iraqi mortality. They est. the number of excess deaths caused by the occup., direct and indirect (eg deteriorated infrastructure). Avg 601,027 deaths were owed to violence. 31% attributed to the allies, 24% to others & 46% unknown. The causes of deaths were gunshot (56%), car bomb (13%), other ordnance (14%), air strike (13%), accident (2%), and unknown (2%)
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 3
QED Serena; thanks for finding this
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago 2
I'm afraid people fail to see what has really materialized out there directly as a result of Labour's lies and hate of Muslims.
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 2
Wow right out of the George Galloway handbook - do you realise how many other studies put the number of deaths far lower, and the percent attribitle to the Allies far lower?
Also - please remember you are speaking to someone who is opposed to the war and always has been.
Im just not foaming from the mouth with hate for Labour such that I ignore the elephant in the room (Islamic Extremists)
yington 2 years ago
No it's from The Lancet, as stated
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 3
@yington Well I can assure you that people are more likely to believe the journal of the British Medical Association and the a publication of John Hopkins University than they are the figures that were heralded by George Bush. In any case, even it was only half the figures The Lancet estimate, is the slaughter of 500,000 people OK just because it's not 1 million..
brett18uk 2 years ago
Fallujah was a disgrace; shame on them for using chemical weapons
tracemckenzie2009 2 years ago 2
Yes he actually admitted they are responsible for internal carnage (Serena claps slowly)
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 2
Don't be cruel to him; no-one is to blame for the destruction of Iraq but the Iraqis themselves...you have to agree with him otherwise he'll throw his rattle out LOL
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 2
shows the intelligence of ur typical BNP supporter, nick griffin gets nailed here and SouthBirminghamBNP posts it on youtube trying to promote the BNP, doh!
hunkyfunkyjunky 2 years ago
So what? Not all BNP members are lilly white...well neither are the members of any political party. Just look at what the mainstream parties have been up to....ripping our taxes off and doctoring MI6 documents to justify an illegal war. These people have more blood on their hands than anyone.
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
two council candidates who said disgusting things?? who were they and what did they say? who is he referring to?
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
BNP is like the nazis but instead of agianst jews, they're against muslims
chelkerrride 2 years ago
Jewish members, members in mixed race relationships, members who have mixed race kids, members who are disabled, members who are gay, etc. Sounds like a Nazi party doesn't it? *sighs*
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago 3
It did to Andrew Brons lol
TheLeedslad09 2 years ago
My wife is Japanese and I am a white Briton who supports the BNP - We both voted BNP as we are scared to the growth of Islam in Europe and the decline of the West. We both met some BNP leafeters outside Richmond station last month and they were the politest, nicest people you could meet. Not at all racist. I wish the BNP luck - I wish the Tory party would fight for this country but it's sold out to political correctness years ago - The BNP seems to be our last chance!
pxokeefe 2 years ago
@SouthBirminghamBNP cant you listen to what the geezer says
raychandler123 1 year ago
Totally, theres so many similarities between the BNP and the National Socialists, but BNP supporters are to thick to recognize it.
FeegieDeuceCrew 2 years ago
There's many similarities between the Labour and Nazi party but Labour supporters are too thick to recognize it
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
No its Labour who are against Muslims. Its Labour who illegally invaded two Muslim countries and killed hundreds of thousands of them with their mate Bush...... and then followed that up with threatening handful more Muslim nations whilst turning its back on Palestinian massacres. So there you go, Labour have done much more malicious damage to Muslims. You are just too thick to recognize it
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
The 100'000's that died were killed by Iraqi Terrorists.
Try and use your pin sized brain - I know its tough.
yington 2 years ago
ill-conceived post-war plan (aka no post-war peace plan)
= fundamentalist nutters take over whole towns and in some cases, cities and bomb their way through many.
No post war plan = little electric, little food and hardly any jobs for Iraqis....crime shoots up more
= good excuse for occupation to continue
= good way to plunder resources
It was estimated that over 100,000 were killed by the US/Uk offensive even before they let the nutters loose.....
Use your brain, assuming you have one
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
Are you a little simple? Estimated that over 100,000 killed by the initial US/UK offensive? What a moron you are.
As you have just proved yourself to spout nonsense, I will just leave you with 2 points to ponder over:
-It is a fact that the mass majority of the murders in Iraq since 2003 have been caused by the murdering Iraqi Terrorist Groups
-The US / UK troops would have been able to leave the country far earlier if it werent for the Iraqi Terrorists blowing everyone up.
yington 2 years ago
The terrorists were not bombing Iraq when Saddam was in power because he knew how to handle that country and the threat within it. It was only when the Labour party dummies and the Republican arses entered Iraq that it turned into a blood bath from day one. Like I said, no post-war plan because they couldn't really care less.
I think if anyone is simple, it's you
Byzee bye xxxx
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
So you have admitted that it was the Iraqi terrorists that have killed the hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq. Thus contradicting your initial claim of:
""Its Labour who illegally invaded two Muslim countries and killed hundreds of thousands of them ""
This was the point wanted to show was complete bullshit, and I am glad I have shown it was so.
Oh, and watch that obsession with Labour that you clearly have. Get a life....
yington 2 years ago
Not at all. The initial bombing campaign and battles in cities in northern Iraq created +100,000 deaths and countless injuries and orphans - and afterwards the Islamic fundamentalists got hold.
The security of any country during an occupation is the responsibility of the occupier - they failed miserably. In a way, you'd be tempted to think it was deliberate. However I think they just didn't care. An atrocity and a half committed against Muslims. If anyone pukes bull, it's you
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
Your claim about the initial bombing campaign causing 100,000 deaths is complete nonsense. Who told you this figure?
And I don't actually disagree with you on what a disgrace this war is.
But why are you finding it so grasp that the mass majority of the deaths and carnage in Iraq has been caused by lunatic Muslim extremists, desperate to earn a free route to heaven (according to their deluded beliefs)
Labour didn't kill the thousands. The terrorists did.
yington 2 years ago
You have no argument. It's true that hese 'terrorists' (or whatever you label them) simply did not exist under Hussein's rule. The borders were more secure then and the deterrents in place for anyone causing mayhem were frightening. Either way, the combination of a UK/US onslaught and the ensuing US/UK incompetency in security has led to people being snuffed out on a daily basis. My theory is that the US/UK forces allowed this to extend the occupation. Personally, I feel you are naive
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 2
thats so laughable its ridciculous, did u not see the tv pictures when the war started, did u not see farenheit 9 11? why would terrorists (freedom fighters, war lords) kill their own people in the 100s of thousands?
hunkyfunkyjunky 2 years ago
Well they did kill their own people in the 100's of thousands. It's a fact.
Why don't you go and ask them?
It's your desperate language skills that are so "laughable its ridiculous".
Please go and play with your toys, and leave debates to grown-ups.
yington 2 years ago
show me ur facts mr grown up
hunkyfunkyjunky 2 years ago
You aren't worth debating with, I don't argue with unintelligent people as they don't understand the difference between facts and falsity.
Bye.
yington 2 years ago
very unintelligent argument on ur part, u didnt back it up with one fact, just wild sweaping statements, it wouldnt stand up in court put it that way, we can debate it if want when u have some facts, until then, u have a good day. bye.
hunkyfunkyjunky 2 years ago
Sorry but your initial comment to me was so pathetic that I simply cannot take you remotely seriously.
First impressions are important.
yington 2 years ago
mature response, sounds like u dont know wot ur talking about, but thats just my impression, i might be wrong but who knows.
hunkyfunkyjunky 2 years ago
You're definitely not a 'grown up', love. You're an uneducated, unaware and sad person that cannot see what a mess was created in Iraq by a bunch of imbecilic cretins who very clearly didn't know how many enemies they'd have to fight during the war and occupation ...and obviously they couldn't cared very much for the Iraqis people to take them into that abyss. Now go read a few books, it will do you good
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
Oh I know exactly what a mess has been created in Iraq. I am against the war, and always have been.
But i'm sick of fools like you who simply cannot grasp that the mass majority of the deaths in Iraq were caused by the Iraqi Terrorists, and that the UK and USA troops could have left far earlier if it weren't for such a sick number of people in Iraq willing to slaughter their own people.
They were simply ignorant of how many lunatics there were in that country.
But thanks anyway, love.
yington 2 years ago
Iraqi terrorists? Yeah...Iraqi terrorists that simply weren't visible during Saddam's reign. I wonder why...have you never asked yourself that question? What a fool you are
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
Yeh ive asked myself the question many times.
It's because Saddam brutality oppressed his people and country with an iron fist. He wouldn't allow anything or anyone to operate outside his grip.
Unfortunately, Labour were too stupid to understand that you cannot force democracy on these people, without unleashing the internal carnage.
However, the fact is, the deaths were caused by the Iraqi Terrorists.
yington 2 years ago
Labour & the Repubs were headed by two Christian fundamentalists that had an ultimate plan and that was to batter Muslim countries into submission and threaten the remaining Muslim nations in the middle east; a kind of 'cowing' effect. This 'cowing' effect was just another failure - it only created further fractures in the middle east. It was a Christian crusade against Muslims which brought suicide bombers to the UK for the first time.
Pity for the poor mites in Iraq that took the brunt
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 2
So the use of chemical weapons in Fallujah never happened?
Cities were never cluster bombed and firebombed? Iraqi women weren't raped and killed in Abu Ghraib? Iraqi men weren't tortured and killed in Abu Ghraib? "Improved Napalm" wasn't used? Iraqi kids weren't deliberately drowned in rivers?
Civilians weren't killed in mosques? There wasn't thousands injured by air strikes?
There really isn't 4.5 million Iraqi orphans with 500 000 living in streets without any home or family?
You fool
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 3
It was a rabid attack on an innocent nation by the Nazi Labour party who were led by a religious nut. My cousin is in the US airforce and has served in Iraq AND Afghanistan and he told me that the British troops were laughed at by because they were so under-supplied in terms of armour.
Heaven only knows how many American and British troops have been seriously injured as well as killed.
A war crimes trial is the only suitable fate for the Labour team that engineered that atrocity
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago 3
Not, most of the things you just said probably happened.
But again, the mass majority of the deaths were caused by Iraqi Terrorists. That hard to grasp?
Again.
The mass majority of deaths were caused by Iraqi Terrorists.
Hopefully writing it twice might help it go in.
Strange really. Ive had two BNP lovers foaming at the mouth to me about the oppression of Muslims.
hmmm
yington 2 years ago
I'd like to see some proof that Iraqi rebels have killed more than the invading forces. As has been pointed out, that they haven't got the capability to gas whole towns, use chemical weapons, cluster bombs, imprison hundreds and use other mass-attack monstrosities. I doubt suicide bombers, even if used daily, are as effective as multiple onslaughts by the troops with their latest weaponry. Don't forget to add on troop deaths and serious injuries to the stats.
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 2
shit mate u dont know much do you? labour were obviously too surreptitious for the likes of you werent they! LMAO.
The brutal back street boy Sadaam Hussayn and his tin pot army could obviously achieve something that the highly trained british and americans couldnt! I think you need to sit down and think it all through (snigger)
Mickymandell 2 years ago 2
That's the strange thing Micky. Hussein, who was uneducated and hardly the pinnacle of intellect, managed to secure and control Iraq but the so-called military experts and strategists didn't seem to me able to work out how to secure the place post-war. There are theories that this was deliberate to provide excuses to continue with the occupation. In any case, if Labour could lie and manipulate weapons dossiers then they could certain 'accidentally on purpose' bugger up security.
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 2
damn you're dumb. Tell me, are there many more like you?
Mickymandell 2 years ago 2
He's obviously not heard of the gassings, bombings, torture and rape committed by the allies. It's mostly the fault of the Iraqis according to him
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 3
To blame the Iraqis is the most brainless thing I have ever heard of.
tracemckenzie2009 2 years ago
Yes it is senseless to blam the Iraqis esp when you read studies published by the Lancet
SerenaUnivofCamb 2 years ago 5
@chelkerrride
and they arent socialist,
sy2pie 1 year ago
@chelkerrride
The BNP are NOTHING like the Nazis but yes Islam is problem for us because Islam opposes us!
By saying that some people can't speak out about a problem we face is like saying we should of ignored the problem of Nazism.
theshow2k8 1 year ago
If you go back far enough, we are all from Africa, Black White, Asian. Cradle of civilization! And to be frank, I would much rather live in Africa than my mostly white, bitter, racist town.
watson2078 2 years ago
Then go, Jesus Christ...
StandTogetherForever 2 years ago
Then leave then! Or at the very least move to Detroit, where you can sit with your hommy's listening to 2pac and eating a big bucket of KFC.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago 2
You are very stupid and uneducated
Pagliacci2009 2 years ago
@watson2078 Saying we are all from africa denies people their own right to identity or cultural origin. Britain should take a leaf out of japans book, Japan regards itself as a one ethnicity country - Japanese and they therefore do not promote mass colonisation or immigration and any people who migrate have to adopt their lifestyle/language/laws. Unlike britain where if you live and claim benefits for a month your british through and through, absolute ridiculous bullshit.
jestervision595 1 year ago
@watson2078
actually i would rather believe something else than science at the moment.
science can change every quickly,
white people also came from asia, who have some of the oldest religions on the planet - Jesus was said to be of asian descent
Galacticmaster 1 year ago
lol nick cut the breh down on every single question :P
finalfantac 2 years ago
Shows where the left are at..
Muslims can scream for Beheadings. no Problems
An Elected MEp mobbed and pelted with eggs. For telling the Truth.?
Freedom of speech..?
This is Labour.
Fro Whom.
sidensvans54 2 years ago
Nick is on top form in this video. I've not been so interested in politics in years.
Here is someone with the backbone to tell it like it is and like Churchill being the antidote to Hitler, he has been given to us at just the right time.
Pulsar205 2 years ago
You could not have been more insulting to one of the greatest leaders we've had. Those who fought in WW2 did not fight for this trash
cjbroon36 2 years ago
I've taken an interest in Nick and the BNP this past couple of weeks because I felt they were the only party willing to stand up for what's right.
Investigating further I've not only found them to be implicitly anti-semitic but having way too many white supremacist links. Nick was a one time Holocaust denier. I was reeled in temporarily but couldn't stomach the racist bits.
This is why I voted UKIP in the Euro elections.
Pulsar205 2 years ago
Good for you. Not sure about their stance on Europe but certainly a better bet than BNP.
cjbroon36 2 years ago
Really - ask Ms Harrison his jewish representative in Essex if he is anti semitic, i think she may disagree with you.
MILF40UK 2 years ago
I reckon that's a front. They've had to do a sales job and tart up their CV.
But the plain fact is they only want to have anglo-saxon-celtic blood in the UK. Says so in their policies.
By the way, I think it rather humorous they've forgotten the Romans, the Vikings and the Normans!!
Pulsar205 2 years ago
i have seen it but Nick Griffin wasnt throwing eggs at the interviewer because he didnt agree. Unfortunately the very things she was accusing the asian girl was accusing bnp of she was guilty of herself - they are fascist not the bnp.
MILF40UK 2 years ago
Like it or not, Nick was democratically elected (even if less voted for him this time). You can't pelt people with eggs because they won an election fair and square.
The only party who can stop the BNP are UKIP; when the critical mass of the electorate wake up and realise you can have great policies without getting involved in race issues.
We'll do it by logical debate and by setting an example, not by an Outrage style mob.
Pulsar205 2 years ago
Anti semetic? Mrs Harrison is a jewish representative in essex and a fully paid up member of the bnp - get ur facts right. You are showing how brainwashed you have been by media coverage of the bnp.
MILF40UK 2 years ago
No not at all. I'm very impressed by Nick's speeches and his depth of understanding-and how much this upsets our feminist/marxist government.
Mrs. Harrison may well be a fully paid member, but the fact remains she is not included in our 'indiginous' peoples.
But not only this, black and asian people are now indiginous, just like the successive waves of settlers in centuries past. It will not be practical to treat them as 'guests' while they were born here.
Pulsar205 2 years ago
If you look up the meaning of indigenous I think you will find black or asians will never be indigenous people. i.e. Aboriginals are the indigenous people of australia, white australia are not and never will be. Having Jews in the BNP can only point out they are not racist or anti semetic
MILF40UK 2 years ago
'Indiginous' means native or born in a country, according to my Collins Gem dictionary. This now means black and asian doesn't it?
As for the anglo-saxons, they haven't been in the British Isles that long. Less than 2000 years. The Angles came first around the time of Christ I believe; then the Saxons a few hundred years later. So they're as much migrants as blacks and asians.
Pulsar205 2 years ago
Natives the original natives not immigrants or people born to foreign parents.
MILF40UK 2 years ago
naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place- this is a exact meaning word from word - if their parents came from India they are second/third generation immigrants- not indigenous
MILF40UK 2 years ago
please stop talking nonesense- White European are indigenous to this country not a black person or an asian person. Black people are indigenous of Africa whether they now have a british passport or other they are not indigenous to these shores. Now move on from this subject
MILF40UK 2 years ago
How can we say anyone is indiginous to the Isles? All of us migrated here at some point.
Where I do agree with the BNP-and why I very nearly voted for them in the election-is the forced imposition of foreign cultures incompatible with our own. Our desire to be of British *culture is being confused (deliberately by the media) with racism.
This does not of course include our wish to try *things of other cultures, like coffee (originally from the Muslims), curry and kebab.
Pulsar205 2 years ago
"How can we say anyone is indiginous to the Isles? All of us migrated here at some point"
Well DNA evidence and Oxford Uni professors say differently. If your white and your grandparents were born in the UK, the chances of your roots in Britain going back 9000 years is around a 90% chance.
Either way, The Aboriginal tribes settled in Australia from India and Indonesia, but no one would dare say "there is no such as an indigenous Australian". Nobody would say that about the Chinese either
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
As for Curry's, kebabs and stuff like that, that is all very well and good and we wouldn't ban that. But British culture and our traditional values need to be preserved. Its all very well and good having a small China town in an urban city. But when that whole city becomes China Town, that is when we will have troubles, and i don't want that.
(Note as well, Curry was actually invented by the British in the Indian Raj to cover up the smell of rotten meat)
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
I thought it was the herbs they'd learned how to savour it with.
Yes I know what you mean about having the whole town taken over. That wouldn't be right. But we can do that by sending back the illegals and stopping more from coming in. The rest will gradually assimilate-unless of course their Muslim faith doesn't allow it...
Pulsar205 2 years ago
That is what the BNP have said. We will deport the Illegals and the bogus Asylum seekers, this will save massive amounts in public services, etc etc.
Voluntary Repatriation will be in place. That policy has worked in Japan and has kept Japan overwhelmingly Homogeneous. Also, Voluntary Repatriation is on Britain's statute books.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
I didn't know that about Japan, but come to think of it, they are homogonous aren't they. So overpopulated they probably couldn't take in a hundred let alone hundreds of thousands like we do!
Yes I heard one of your top guys mention it as something from the Wilson government they kept quiet about. Maybe it could have worked at that early stage but not after another four decades nearly. We shouldn't have started immigration in the first place. Should have been an outcry. Too late now.
Pulsar205 2 years ago
ANTIDOTE TO HITLER!
Griffin is HITLER!
jhvscs 2 years ago
I think the devil is in the detail. If the British public vote one day en mass for the BNP they won't realise this-just like they sleep walked into hard socialism when they thought they voted for Blair.
Pulsar205 2 years ago
Griffin is good friends with Pat Richardson, who is Jewish and a BNP Cllr and member. Griffin also supported Israel's right to defend its borders during the "Gaza" conflict. Hardly something Hitler would support now is it?
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
Nick Griffin is a gangster, he should be primeminister, i vote bnp all the time because the bnp policies shit all over labour and others. britain to be britain.
toxic2k7 2 years ago 2
do members of the BNP hate jews?
fukme123 2 years ago
I am a member of the BNP and i don't hate Jews, nor anyone else (Apart from the treacherous politicians we have now!)
BNP has Jewish members, Jewish councilors and a Jewish Treasurer.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
Do you know every member of the BNP? Why are you in the BNP? Do you not agree that major reforms are needed in Parliament but not neccesarily the rise of a party stained with anti-semetic sentiment and racist slurs?
fukme123 2 years ago
I know a lot of BNP members, we have our disagreements in a lot of fields. But that's what happens in ALL political parties. I am in the BNP because i am concerned about Immigration and the Islamification of the UK.
Your saying we have anti-Semitic sentiment and racist slurs.. What about Red Ken and his anti-Semitic jibe and various slurs carried out by LabCon MP's and cllrs.
Please, think for yourself.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
You do know that Nazism is shortened version of Nazionalsozialismus. Roughly translated as NATIONAL SOCIALISM. Name might be different but the core theory is the same.
cjbroon36 2 years ago
One word. WHY???
cjbroon36 2 years ago
The BNP are like communists, they are idealists that have a vision which isn't wrong in itself and ideally would be pleasant, but things have gone to far now, to turn non-whites into second class citizens.
It would cripple the economy
eg. most of the doctors who spend their lives saving yours are non-whites and if the BNP came to power Britain would collapse in on itself.
The tories are a lot more sensible, lowering immigration drastically is better than ostrasizing minorities.
p.s white Briton
EvertonFanSince1878 2 years ago
Oh dear, you just haven't read the BNP's polices through have you?
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
They say they won't deport anyone but if you believe that you really can't be very smart
EvertonFanSince1878 2 years ago
"They say they won't deport anyone"
Deary me, you really haven't read it through have you?
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
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EvertonFanSince1878 2 years ago
Well then what's your take on it mate?
EvertonFanSince1878 2 years ago
1) Deport the 2 million Illegals.
2) Any Immigrants who are here Illegally and break the law will be deported (Note most of the current Immigrants are white)
3) Those Legal Immigrants and foreign desendants will be offered grants to return to lands of ethnic origin (Also a policy in Japan, and also an Act of Parliament covers this in Britain)
4) Stop all Immigration except for exceptional circumstances.
Says nothing about colour in the actual Manifesto. Try it, look it up.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
the BNP are not idealists they and those that vote for them are realists.
multiculturists are idealists.
and if u think your going to win the cup your a fantasist.
blue and white shite.
29billyclementine 2 years ago
I'm not here to get into an argument so don't even start on me and i'll reply you on 30th of may
EvertonFanSince1878 2 years ago
Sikhs , Hindues & Gurkhas prefer the BNP ..... LOL keep up the good work Nick
indymunda 2 years ago
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I prefer a muslim in the UK than a BNP member.
Caspiantiger1 2 years ago
Caspiantiger1: but you are a muslim so we can see why.
MrRAndom5 2 years ago 2
The BNP have my support ... Gurkha .
Ive seen enough in Asian cultures - Sikhs , Hindues who are anti muslim versus Islam .
Dont condemn the BNP when Asian culture is internally racist ie. thecaste system , its 3 main groups Sikhs , Hindues are at "war" with Islam both in the UK & in India .....
wake up England ,start defending yourselves .... Gurkha
indymunda 2 years ago
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Agree - The BBC are run by jews - a BNP government will kick out all non-whites and jews.
Livorno1968 2 years ago
No we wouldn't. The BNP has Jewish members, including one Jewish cllr.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
Sure - Be nice to the jews and I'm sure they will be nice to us (laughs!)
Livorno1968 2 years ago
The BNP won't kick anybody out unless they are terrorists. What is wrong with that. I'm a Jew and I'm a member of the BNP. The enemies of the BNP are far more dangerous to me than anything else in this country.
thrallofknowing 2 years ago 2
I think people would say jews are the most dangerous group of people. the bnp would put in ovens and ur supporting lol. i was right about u. u are a jew.
swamimans 2 years ago
What are you talking about?? Speak English.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
Your a fascist zionist jew that is using the bnp to you can further your support of israel. the jews in america do the same thing.
swamimans 2 years ago
I support Israel because i believe the Jews have a right to a homeland, there original homeland was Israel. I don't support arming and beefing up Israel nor do i support Israel killing innocent people.
As for calling me a "Fascist", i have being called that millions of times and its boring. Find something fresh to say.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
swamimans, You don't seem to realise that possibly the most prominant Fascists in history were the Nazi's who murdered Jews, Now you insult someone calling him a Jew, Who Is The Fascist?
NelsonChurchillMonty 2 years ago 2
this is upsurd the sound quality is terrible
lewisUK9393 2 years ago
Its okay on my computer.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
on mine too ... certainly not absurd.
EnochPowell2008 2 years ago
I love the way this tv interviewer tries to put words in th mouth of Nick griffin..
peacechild61 2 years ago
Its what they always do. But on the contrary Nick stood his ground and defended himself and the party.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
Good Luck to the BNP but I reckon standing in elections is pointless for Nationalists - ZOG will never let us win - Dave Copeland and Tim McVeigh (RIP) had the right idea! I hate the Fenian IRA scum but the tactic of a political wing and a paramilitary wing working in unison is correct and could work in Great Britain.
Livorno1968 2 years ago 2
Is Gavin Esler a jew? It has a jew sounding surname and it obviously hates White people.
Paxman look like a yid too.
Livorno1968 2 years ago
ah! This is Nick's responce to that "secret Agent" program!
Thank you for uploading this.
CommieDefectedToBNP 2 years ago
Aye mate, it is indeed. I think by uploading this we can then smear all the old anti-BNP propaganda we see. Good ref for the party if you would like to call it that.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
Can I ask where you got this?
Did you tape it years ago, or is it off a site ect?
CommieDefectedToBNP 2 years ago
I got it off a fellow YT user.
SouthBirminghamBNP 2 years ago
This has very bad volume
NatDemUK 2 years ago