Sightly off-topic, but an important skeptic issue. A 'paranormal' group in Colorado are trying to silence criticism of their 'ghost-hunting' scam which has led to them being banned from the Evergreen graveyard which they have desecrated. They are trying now to suppress a video by a false DMCA notice even though they don't have any rights to the content. Please help. Details here: watch?v=2dfkGFz5iFU&feature=feedu
@pocoapoco2 Never mind. I was thinking nanometers not microns. I had one of those brain air releases. 22µm is almost one thousandth of an inch. It sure is moving pretty speedily. Looks to be about 5-6 miles/second.
so is there a reason why somebody would feel nauseous and off balance right after the earthquake happened? I know of at least two people who have felt sick and just off.
When it hit us, I ran out of my house, thinking it was going to collapse on me. I'm not sure I was ever so bewildered, never having experienced anything like it, being an east-coaster all my life.
This should show all the waves, including the ones in Canada. Its only part of a pic. How can you see the full pic of something like this, leaving part of it out. Its wrong.
Non-geophysicist takes a look: Back-of the-envelope gives a group velocity of ~350 miles per second for the fast wave. Interesting. Looks like there is a slower wave at 150 mps speed, perhaps. Sustained oscillations during the last 10 seconds suggest standing waves. Which raises the question are these observed seismic waves reflected by something, to make standing wave activity? Or?
@Mathview Earthquakes generate 2 waves. A higher frequency P (primary) wave which generates motion horizontal to the surface and a lower frequency S (secondary) wave vertical to the ground (this is the rolling one feels during an earthquake). Due to the different frequencies the two waves travel at different speeds and hence disperse as the move away from the epicenter.
@geoffball Yes, thanks I've heard of the terminology. Video data suggests a fast wave phase velocity roughly ~ 350 mps, and slow wave phase velocity roughly ~150 mps. (strictly speaking group velocity of the wave packet.) Theory of elastic solids gives the wave dispersion relation in terms of the acoustic speed C in the medium. Simple sound waves are non-dispersive in uniform media. Why are there two wave modes? Do our wave speeds agree with theory? Do standing waves cause the activity 10<t<20?
@Mathview Thanks again for posting this fascinating quake sensor data. Examination of the graphic data display immediately engages the curiosity. Makes us almost wish for another large earthquake. Almost, I said.
The density of sensors in the middle is because the array is slowly moving across the country, west to east. We're essentially doing a complete seismic survey over a period of about 20 years using a fifth of the seismometers that would otherwise be required.
My english is better than alot of native speakers, but you started your sentence with saying "the density of sensors in the middle is because..." and i am still not sure why that was... can you explain it to me?
@Zuurkool1 I am referring to and attempting to explain the fact that in the central U.S., there is a grid of very closely spaced data points even though coverage is sparse for the rest of the country. I could have phrased it better probably.
The readings are from seismometers that are in a "Transportable Array". When the quake happened, the devices were in Oklahoma and Texas. I'll bet that the scattered devices are stationery. There are many in Southern California because we study earthquakes there all the time. In another year, the Array will be further east and we would see the dots clustered in a different place.
@davenquinn layman's terms? I see your point but the sensors in the middle are responding to the wave sensitively than the other up north for example? because I saw that the other sensors stopped responding with high density while the down middle ones are still active. thx in advance.
@snoopsnoop5 So lemme see - you're asking about the sensors in the gulf coast area, why they're oscillating like crazy while the ones northward die down. It's all about the local geology where the sensors are: The reason this earthquake produces such clear waves is that the geology in VA is dominated by hard rocks like granite. Gulf Coast geology is dominated by loose sediments from the Mississipi River. Those "muddy up" the signal but shake a lot more in quakes...hence the prolonged randomness.
It seemed to be that after the wave passed through, the sensors on the U.S.-Mexico border (I was mainly seeing it in Texas, but it also appeared in California) there was still a large amount of activity. Was that just an aftershock (if so why did it seem less on the Eastern coast), or did the quake in Virginia cause the faults in those areas to go haywire after passing through?
@neilpquinn0 What is that supposed to mean, anyway, sir? I will not have aspersions cast against my professionalism...
davenquinn 1 month ago
is it me or does the flahy colors make u feel like youre on serious drugs!!!!!!!!!
MrTyler515 5 months ago
Simply amazing that we can measure such a minut movement of the earth.
ecshome 5 months ago
Simply amazing that we can measure such a minut movement of the earth.
ecshome 5 months ago
That's weird. I didn't feel a thing on the Gulf Coast.
AlternateLonestar 5 months ago 2
Sightly off-topic, but an important skeptic issue. A 'paranormal' group in Colorado are trying to silence criticism of their 'ghost-hunting' scam which has led to them being banned from the Evergreen graveyard which they have desecrated. They are trying now to suppress a video by a false DMCA notice even though they don't have any rights to the content. Please help. Details here: watch?v=2dfkGFz5iFU&feature=feedu
astrophonix 6 months ago
What I don't understand is how such a small amplitude wave isn't lost in noise generated by a host of other sources.
pocoapoco2 6 months ago
@pocoapoco2 Never mind. I was thinking nanometers not microns. I had one of those brain air releases. 22µm is almost one thousandth of an inch. It sure is moving pretty speedily. Looks to be about 5-6 miles/second.
pocoapoco2 6 months ago
even bigger shock is coming
miksulder 6 months ago
@miksulder Oh no! Maybe the next one will make waves 40 microns tall!
lx45803 6 months ago
Im from Virginia and this was my first quake. I was so exicted ha
LBTennis 6 months ago
so is there a reason why somebody would feel nauseous and off balance right after the earthquake happened? I know of at least two people who have felt sick and just off.
kacey72 6 months ago
so many censors in the plains lol
Erde04 6 months ago
crazy!
JasonVladimir 6 months ago
Its a mexican wave!! Don't you people watch football(the real thing)?
FlorinGG 6 months ago
holly shit!
baleydee 6 months ago
Oooh sparkley!
AnnaTFan 6 months ago
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dashing502 6 months ago
lol i love how where minneapolis is, there isnt a little circle. YAY
Imamkoolz 6 months ago
Kill all the scientists, so that this never happens again !
GluttonForSex 6 months ago
Why is it that these sorts of events are reported by meteorologists and astronomers ?
Shouldn't we have "TheBadGeologist" or "Rock Watcher" telling us to "Keep looking down" ?
Steaphany 6 months ago
Comparing to California, our houses on the east coast are made of toothpicks, so think about others before you think of yourself.
MCCustomMapReviews 6 months ago
@MCCustomMapReviews toothpicks? i am a carpenter and i can tell you house's on the east coast, at least the boston area, are built well
mikesandytoes 6 months ago
@MCCustomMapReviews toothpicks? the big bad wolf will huff and puff until he blows your house down though.
TheAndrewDays 6 months ago
Disco.
skaterrebel 6 months ago
We will rebuild.
;___;7
TechSynapse 6 months ago
Wow, west coast too?
antdude 6 months ago
Praise, Jesus. God shook up our country to tell us to eat more Lucky Charms.
truvelocity 6 months ago
Huh, I guess I should have felt something here in East Texas, but I didn't. Maybe it's because I'm on the second floor?
eicebleu 6 months ago
So, this may be a dumb question, but... what's with the weird hole somewhere between Wichita and Coffeyville, Kansas?
OUdarling 6 months ago
@OUdarling on the original there a ring and then some more data relating to the ringed one and it seems to have become a spur here
hens0w 6 months ago
@OUdarling If you are referring to the Yellow circle, that's just the location where the graph on the bottom is coming from.
MateoJH 6 months ago
Simply amazing, thanks for sharing.
Saukko31 6 months ago
Hard rock = good propagation and clearly defined wave patterns. Very cool visualization.
keihinv 6 months ago
We had a quake hours before in NM/CO boarder, no one is mentioning that. :)
rednecktrucker1969 6 months ago
We felt it in Montreal, Quebec !!
manouky 6 months ago
@manouky no u didnt jerkoff, i didt feel it in ct
thedevil549 6 months ago
@thedevil549 I live in Westfield Massachusetts and i felt it.
endtoNWO 6 months ago
Wow, that is amazing. It's interesting to see how the shockwave seems to keep reverberating longer in certain coastal regions than others.
MarcJX8P 6 months ago 3
Cosmic. No, I mean terrestrial.
rneville101 6 months ago
nice march! JK!
LadyMyara 6 months ago
why does the activity stay longer in texas?
shaithesm0ck 6 months ago
@shaithesm0ck I'd like to know, too. Anyone?
graey42 6 months ago
Awesome!
When it hit us, I ran out of my house, thinking it was going to collapse on me. I'm not sure I was ever so bewildered, never having experienced anything like it, being an east-coaster all my life.
iamgoddard 6 months ago
This should show all the waves, including the ones in Canada. Its only part of a pic. How can you see the full pic of something like this, leaving part of it out. Its wrong.
angelikad34 6 months ago
@angelikad34
Blame Canada for not building and funding their own array.
SkepticalAaron 6 months ago 3
Get Your Asses Out Of The New Madrid Seismic Zone! That shit looks trifely!!!!!!!
thasupremeoverlord 6 months ago
@keiwon13 "Come on now ?? Get real .!"
come on now, get educated
lennyhipp 6 months ago
What kind of vibes?
transistic 6 months ago
Can anyone that knows more than me tell my why there were so many more vibes in Texas and California? Just a thing I noticed. :)
AnotherPostcard 6 months ago
@keiwon13 There are fault lines in Virginia you know. Quakes happen, however infrequently, just like anything else.
AnotherPostcard 6 months ago
Was there a full moon and what planet was aligned with the moon at the moment of the quake?
toechesse 6 months ago
Good Question toechesse
transistic 6 months ago
I knew this would happen.
shawmutt 6 months ago
Crazy, I felt it in Northern Ontario...
Hell of a long way to travel, it was subtle, but thats 2 in the last 2 years I've felt here.
leaf16nut 6 months ago
this is great. i'm in the metro boston area, and i felt nothing...but a handful of my friends felt it in this area :/
frustratedlogician 6 months ago
Dont hate.. but is this because of ELEnin???
guitarboy12 6 months ago
@guitarboy12 NO! WRONG! not hating, just correcting.
frustratedlogician 6 months ago 2
@frustratedlogician Alright, Thanks.
guitarboy12 6 months ago
Non-geophysicist takes a look: Back-of the-envelope gives a group velocity of ~350 miles per second for the fast wave. Interesting. Looks like there is a slower wave at 150 mps speed, perhaps. Sustained oscillations during the last 10 seconds suggest standing waves. Which raises the question are these observed seismic waves reflected by something, to make standing wave activity? Or?
Mathview 6 months ago
@Mathview Earthquakes generate 2 waves. A higher frequency P (primary) wave which generates motion horizontal to the surface and a lower frequency S (secondary) wave vertical to the ground (this is the rolling one feels during an earthquake). Due to the different frequencies the two waves travel at different speeds and hence disperse as the move away from the epicenter.
geoffball 6 months ago
@geoffball Yes, thanks I've heard of the terminology. Video data suggests a fast wave phase velocity roughly ~ 350 mps, and slow wave phase velocity roughly ~150 mps. (strictly speaking group velocity of the wave packet.) Theory of elastic solids gives the wave dispersion relation in terms of the acoustic speed C in the medium. Simple sound waves are non-dispersive in uniform media. Why are there two wave modes? Do our wave speeds agree with theory? Do standing waves cause the activity 10<t<20?
Mathview 6 months ago
@Mathview Thanks again for posting this fascinating quake sensor data. Examination of the graphic data display immediately engages the curiosity. Makes us almost wish for another large earthquake. Almost, I said.
Mathview 6 months ago
The density of sensors in the middle is because the array is slowly moving across the country, west to east. We're essentially doing a complete seismic survey over a period of about 20 years using a fifth of the seismometers that would otherwise be required.
davenquinn 6 months ago 58
@davenquinn
My english is better than alot of native speakers, but you started your sentence with saying "the density of sensors in the middle is because..." and i am still not sure why that was... can you explain it to me?
Zuurkool1 6 months ago
@Zuurkool1 I am referring to and attempting to explain the fact that in the central U.S., there is a grid of very closely spaced data points even though coverage is sparse for the rest of the country. I could have phrased it better probably.
davenquinn 6 months ago
@davenquinn
Allright, but why is that?
Zuurkool1 6 months ago
@Zuurkool1 because of money and resources
MateoJH 6 months ago
@Zuurkool1
The readings are from seismometers that are in a "Transportable Array". When the quake happened, the devices were in Oklahoma and Texas. I'll bet that the scattered devices are stationery. There are many in Southern California because we study earthquakes there all the time. In another year, the Array will be further east and we would see the dots clustered in a different place.
6violet6 6 months ago
@davenquinn layman's terms? I see your point but the sensors in the middle are responding to the wave sensitively than the other up north for example? because I saw that the other sensors stopped responding with high density while the down middle ones are still active. thx in advance.
snoopsnoop5 6 months ago
@snoopsnoop5 So lemme see - you're asking about the sensors in the gulf coast area, why they're oscillating like crazy while the ones northward die down. It's all about the local geology where the sensors are: The reason this earthquake produces such clear waves is that the geology in VA is dominated by hard rocks like granite. Gulf Coast geology is dominated by loose sediments from the Mississipi River. Those "muddy up" the signal but shake a lot more in quakes...hence the prolonged randomness.
davenquinn 6 months ago 2
@davenquinn thank you, I was going to ask about this specifically.
hypersapien 6 months ago
@davenquinn Bad geology, Daven, bad geology.
neilpquinn0 1 month ago
That was fantastic! Why do the waves persist along the Gulf Coast for so long?
I didn't know the measurements were so precise within microns. Neat!
fegolem 6 months ago 2
I'm surprised at the density of sensors in the middle...
theservman 6 months ago
Is that coast to coast in 10 minutes, right?
olcorral 6 months ago
I felt it.
vspqbd 6 months ago
I just missed it here. My sister ~10 miles north felt it.
shanedk 6 months ago
I blame Elenin! Or Cuthulu. I forget which one.
SaintZ42 6 months ago
stupid quake woke me up! and I was having sucha good day off here in DC :P
minazumi 6 months ago
Thank you so much for submitting! This is a great way to see exactly what happened, I'll spread this around!
AlicethePattern 6 months ago
Awesome! This brings out the geology nerd in me. Such fascinating stuff. I made a humorous video about the quake, I'll submit it as a response!
EvannRachel 6 months ago
It seemed to be that after the wave passed through, the sensors on the U.S.-Mexico border (I was mainly seeing it in Texas, but it also appeared in California) there was still a large amount of activity. Was that just an aftershock (if so why did it seem less on the Eastern coast), or did the quake in Virginia cause the faults in those areas to go haywire after passing through?
Cyrathil 6 months ago
This took Al Jazeera off the air for a little bit, I was disappointed.
Also, felt in Toronto.
GuyFromCoby 6 months ago
clearly..... Virginia did something bad to deserve this. What else could cause earthquakes??
sfg911 6 months ago
@sfg911 Tectonic Plates...
viva0la0life 6 months ago
@viva0la0life Tectonic Plaits?
astrophonix 6 months ago
@sfg911 Hehe! In the words of Christopher Hitchens, "A fault is not a sin."
audiophile71 6 months ago
@audiophile71 Great quote! gotta remember that
sfg911 6 months ago
I live in Virginia. :D
I was in science class when this happened.
TifffyCullen1910 6 months ago
Amazingly clear seismic wave patterns! Science rocks the world!
astrophonix 6 months ago 32
@astrophonix Russia says it was their HAARP that rocked the Pentagon's underground tunnels.
tr0n001 6 months ago
woah.
dreadpiratedan 6 months ago
Oh wow, that was cool. :O
aMondia 6 months ago
Cool.
SCAREDBANANA 6 months ago