You can't compare Frehlely and Thayer, it's like comparing apples and oranges. In regards to the make up, Kiss is a product used to make money and the spaceman is a trademark . Simple.
I wish people would just stop, Ace today is sober. He does not want 2b in KISS. Tommy does a great job being Ace, the solo's on Sonic Boom are artistically changed ... really they are not changed however, re-incarnated to bring new life to the hero w/ all grew up with. For those who feel Ace of yesterday is gone, your right ! The new Ace, sober Ace and his new effort Anomaly compares right up there ( if not better ) w/ the new kiss album ! There both awesome w/ Ace being paramount !!!
He is greeat ...great guitarrist great guy great...the people who tank that he is just a replace guitarrist dont now anytyank about Kisstory becouse he is part of the band a lkong long time first producind second as very cool e top guitarrist.....
I agree, he should have his own persona. But it is not his fault, gene wants him to keep the makeup so he can make money off the 4 orginal make up designs
ok he is a good producer and thats it when he play guitar in the concerts he just SUCKS and also if he is not a SUBSTITE he should desing his own make up mask and not use the same as ACE.......
If someone had to replace Ace to keep KISS going, Tommy was an excellent choice. LIke he has said, he's not a substitute, he is the lead guitarist of KISS. Tommy has put the hard yards in for many years before he joined the band, he deserves it and is being very humble as well.
lets all be honest - Ace was great in his glory days, but the Ace of today is NOT the Ace 20 years ago - don't blame Tommy for all of Ace's self inflicted wounds
Thommy isn't 'in' kiss, he's just an employee paid to imitate the guy he used to lug for. Good on him, he's having a ball and living the dream, but let's be real.... he is simply employed to act and play like someone else. He has no say in anything, the only thing he says is 'yes sir, no sir'.
ace is ace & anybody that understands the magic of kiss that actually expierenced them first time around understands the impact that spaceace had on everyone's collective rocknroll fantasy imagination..it is absolutely unquestionable,the guitar tone on alive2 IS sizzeling searing &sweet. those L.P.custom triple pickup black beauty's & sunbursts loaded with dimarzio superdistortion'scrunching,bending, humming,wailing.smoking.burning pentatonic mastery,lazergun blasting out SUPERSONIC WAVELENGTHS
well ace was a good guitar palyer but tommy is much better..i know i've been playing guitar for 12 year...but the best is bruce kulick...he couldn't sing but his solos were awesome..listen to crazy nights or no,no,no..neither ace, nor tommy can't play it..
and petter is an asshole..he wanted a lot of money for nothing..and actually eric singer is better than him but the best is eric carr...back to the 90s!!:)
Thayer is a faster, more fluid, more consistent and technically better player. Any guitar player watching the two will tell you that. Thayer had to RETEACH Frehely his solos on the reunion tour because Ace forgot them or couldn't play them. But I agree with you - Ace wrote those solos and deseves credit. Too bad Ace is a racist Nazi drunk or he might still be in the band. He wrote some great shit.
There are thousands of no-name players who are faster and technically better than Ace....thats got nothing to do with it. Ace created a sound on Alive! that has gone down in rock history. Thayer is just an imitator who has created nothing. He's shit.
Hey John- like I said previously- Ace wrote those solos and deserves credit. I agree that Ace Frehley ruled back in the day. But Gene and Paul could only play with a guy who was always late, drunk, high, racist and anti Jew for so long. Do I wish Ace was still in the band? Sure! But Ace preferred the party, and it's everyone's loss. Ace quit the band so you can't blame Thayer anyway. Ace was my favorite back in the day, but nothing lasts forever.
You're right, Tommy isn't anything because Gene and Paul are not letting him shine, they are burying him under the persona that Ace Frehley created... We'll remember Carr as the Fox, and Vincent as the (whatever he was), but Singer and Thayer will always be in the shadow of the Catman and Space Ace, and I blame Gene and Paul for that...
Tommy and Eric are doing their best to keep Kiss going. It's not Gene or Pauls fault that Ace and Peter shit on the bands dream. Peter couldn't keep up and Ace was drunk half the time, then they constantly cmplained about money even though they were traveling in limos and staying in five star suites. Watch "Rock the Nation" it's actually, musically, better than the farewell tour. It's a much tighter "machine". why blame this all on Gene? Ace and Peter quit, sold their trademarks and quit. Drag.
you're a whiner. Ace quit due to drug and alcohol problems. I personally saw him WASTED on the farewell tour, then due to Peters problems they had to slow the tempo down just so he could keep up. Tommy created Kisstory as well as The Second Coming as well as being Aces tech. I admit maybe he should have different makeup but the overseas fans would never accept it. They only see KISS as those 4 faces. Look what happened when they toured for creatures. No one went. A sad situation.
Yes, but he had different makeup. He was loved in Australia but in AMERICA they were totally rejected. I saw the Creatures of the Night show in St. Louis, there was less than 3,000 people in attendance in a 12,000 seat venue. The tour went bankrupt. Everyone kept complaining "they don't even have Peter or Ace". I went by myself, my freinds wouldn't go. So you either support the band or stay home. Your choice. Thanks/.
The point I was making was, Australia accepted Eric Carr with different make-up.
I'm not saying they would accept anything less than the original four faces *now*, but my point remains they accepted a brand new makeup style at the time.
I find this point interesting. Australia, as a market place, didn't really know the band before Eric. Like many I had been exposed to the solo albums, Alive 2 & Dynasty but that wasn't the case for everyone. I think Oz in 1980 was just keen to see the band, Eric was the drummer that played and we were happy. You have to remember that the Beatles had a replacement drummer out here(no Ringo) and AC/DC had recently replaced the late Bon Scott with Brian the butcher.. and the Americans love him!
That said, I'm glad that Singer & Thayer are helping to keep the band moving. Since 1995 Kiss have really built a relationship with the Oz Fans thanks to Kulick, Carr, Singer & Thayer. In 80, 97 & 01 Ace showed up pissed &/or stoned. In 01 Peter threw a tantrum and didn't show and for the Symphony just didn't seem to be able to cope. Neither Ace or Peter have toured here solo. Kulick & Singer do it regularly & Stanley has done too. Ace & Peter have not shown Oz fans the respect we deserve
it had nothing to do with the lineup change. kiss was in decline in america cause they shit on the hardcore rock fans by releasing dynasty, unmasked, then the elder.
i still love kiss to this very day, and always will. theres nothing wrong with moving on, but to have eric, who i love, and that ass tommy thayer in ace and peters makeup is just wrong.
Tommy might be a nice guy, but he and Eric Singer choose to be the biggest SCABS ever in rock and roll history. They walked into a landmine field of criticism when they whored themselves out as the "Fake" Ace and Peter...he has tons of $, but no respect from zillions of true KISS fans!
You are full of shit and an angry person. The Rock the Nation tour was packed in almost every city. You can only be a scab in a union dispute, Ace quit and so did Peter. If you don't like it too bad. It's too late to design new "Characters". It would ruin the franchise over seas and in America as well. Ace quit due to alcohol and drug issues as well as greed. Peter retired. So do you think because of those 2 guys, KISS should quit? You my friend are the scab.
I ask for all kiss fans to boycott all kiss products until Ace & Peter are back in the band. It is an utter disgrace to have their make up on someone elses face. I am so pissed. I wanted the best & I got crap!!!!
You can't compare Frehlely and Thayer, it's like comparing apples and oranges. In regards to the make up, Kiss is a product used to make money and the spaceman is a trademark . Simple.
jimmyjazz240 1 month ago
I think it's fine that Tahyer is playing with KISS. However, I would prefer him and Singer wear different makeup.
Bassgod76 7 months ago
what ARE the top 5 KISS songs that we should now but don't? I've heard everyone of their songs
SuperMike82 1 year ago
AM Radio???????? FAIL!!!!
JulietsMan 1 year ago
his wife looks like it could b his daughter
humpde479 1 year ago
@badasschill sucks like your mom i hear
rawbo007 1 year ago
I wish people would just stop, Ace today is sober. He does not want 2b in KISS. Tommy does a great job being Ace, the solo's on Sonic Boom are artistically changed ... really they are not changed however, re-incarnated to bring new life to the hero w/ all grew up with. For those who feel Ace of yesterday is gone, your right ! The new Ace, sober Ace and his new effort Anomaly compares right up there ( if not better ) w/ the new kiss album ! There both awesome w/ Ace being paramount !!!
jesternjeff 1 year ago
@jesternjeff - the Sonic Boom album is great, as Tommy is Tommy.
evilunixuser1 1 year ago
I LOVE TOMMY THAYER!!!
jamieworldhero 1 year ago
hes an awesome guitar player but hes no ace
But he should make his owne make up
i mean hes no space man....
Chaserallomac12 1 year ago
i saw him and his wife yesterday
got my shirt signed and a pic of him
omg i love him so much
he is greatt
faby1204 1 year ago
He should come up with his own makeup design.
rocknroller123 2 years ago
yea he should, thats the only reason i respected Vinnie Vincent
TheKccarman 1 year ago
He is greeat ...great guitarrist great guy great...the people who tank that he is just a replace guitarrist dont now anytyank about Kisstory becouse he is part of the band a lkong long time first producind second as very cool e top guitarrist.....
drrl981 2 years ago 2
I saw them live last week, Tommy Thayer kicks ass.
SergeantMatt13 2 years ago 3
I love Tommy. I don't think that Gene and Paul are not letting him shine. In the KISS ALIVE 35 concert he had a lot of the spot light. He is amazing!
GellyGoo 2 years ago 2
i got to mee thim on september 25th cobo hall hes a nice guy
theultimatekissfan1 2 years ago
I agree, he should have his own persona. But it is not his fault, gene wants him to keep the makeup so he can make money off the 4 orginal make up designs
Speros11 2 years ago
ok he is a good producer and thats it when he play guitar in the concerts he just SUCKS and also if he is not a SUBSTITE he should desing his own make up mask and not use the same as ACE.......
sudamericuencano 2 years ago
Epic Fail, He is an amazing guitar player.
Glitchnez 2 years ago 2
If someone had to replace Ace to keep KISS going, Tommy was an excellent choice. LIke he has said, he's not a substitute, he is the lead guitarist of KISS. Tommy has put the hard yards in for many years before he joined the band, he deserves it and is being very humble as well.
paulnei 2 years ago 2
amen to that
Speros11 2 years ago
tommy thayer is cool
55kiss55 2 years ago 4
Gracias Kiss, gracias Kiss, gracias Kiss, por la noche más feliz del mundo!!! (Después de una de sexo)
claudiofimiani 2 years ago
Am I the only one who thinks Tommy Thayer probably has a shitload of money from being in kiss and should just help his friend...I know I would.
CarterBoyy227 2 years ago
lets all be honest - Ace was great in his glory days, but the Ace of today is NOT the Ace 20 years ago - don't blame Tommy for all of Ace's self inflicted wounds
evilunixuser1 2 years ago 22
very well said. i agree 100%.
Ace and Peter are JUST getting back on track years after they left KISS. talk about fucking up
KISSfan888 2 years ago 4
Thommy isn't 'in' kiss, he's just an employee paid to imitate the guy he used to lug for. Good on him, he's having a ball and living the dream, but let's be real.... he is simply employed to act and play like someone else. He has no say in anything, the only thing he says is 'yes sir, no sir'.
podoz 3 years ago
ace is ace & anybody that understands the magic of kiss that actually expierenced them first time around understands the impact that spaceace had on everyone's collective rocknroll fantasy imagination..it is absolutely unquestionable,the guitar tone on alive2 IS sizzeling searing &sweet. those L.P.custom triple pickup black beauty's & sunbursts loaded with dimarzio superdistortion'scrunching,bending, humming,wailing.smoking.burning pentatonic mastery,lazergun blasting out SUPERSONIC WAVELENGTHS
jeb1970 3 years ago
Tommy is the new Spaceman.
The Ace of the 70s was far better than Tommy, but now Ace can't be in Kiss, and all the Kiss fans we've got to respect Tommy.
fitslikeaglove1 3 years ago 9
Yeah. Ace was a junkie. That's why he left.
blackironkiller 3 years ago
ace left da 1st time cuz of peter leaving and (music from) the elder album and the 2nd time was cuz him and gene got in a fight
Dabuss98 3 years ago
your comment was the best comment ive seen
gurraaaaa 3 years ago
y do u people lik tommy ACE IS BETTER
acefrehleygrl 3 years ago
Ace WAS better. Now he is a motherfucker.
fitslikeaglove1 3 years ago
Tommy used to play with a band called black and blue back in the 80's
got2469 3 years ago
well ace was a good guitar palyer but tommy is much better..i know i've been playing guitar for 12 year...but the best is bruce kulick...he couldn't sing but his solos were awesome..listen to crazy nights or no,no,no..neither ace, nor tommy can't play it..
and petter is an asshole..he wanted a lot of money for nothing..and actually eric singer is better than him but the best is eric carr...back to the 90s!!:)
vireni 3 years ago 4
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bull shit Tommy sucks compare to ace
metallman55 3 years ago
no ace way better than thayer
dartheyebrow 3 years ago
As a KISS fan for over 30 years, you are delusional and have no idea of what you're talking about.
This shithead was hauling Ace's gear for years! Now, he gets his paycheck from playing licks that Ace wrote!
If you think this imposter is better than the original, then please, keep your opinions to yourself because you sound ridiculous.
zereoue 3 years ago
Thayer is a faster, more fluid, more consistent and technically better player. Any guitar player watching the two will tell you that. Thayer had to RETEACH Frehely his solos on the reunion tour because Ace forgot them or couldn't play them. But I agree with you - Ace wrote those solos and deseves credit. Too bad Ace is a racist Nazi drunk or he might still be in the band. He wrote some great shit.
pittsburghsteelers 3 years ago 2
you said that the right way , if i say so myself I'm a STEELERS fan also!
sixxsabre 3 years ago
There are thousands of no-name players who are faster and technically better than Ace....thats got nothing to do with it. Ace created a sound on Alive! that has gone down in rock history. Thayer is just an imitator who has created nothing. He's shit.
johntwentythree 2 years ago
Hey John- like I said previously- Ace wrote those solos and deserves credit. I agree that Ace Frehley ruled back in the day. But Gene and Paul could only play with a guy who was always late, drunk, high, racist and anti Jew for so long. Do I wish Ace was still in the band? Sure! But Ace preferred the party, and it's everyone's loss. Ace quit the band so you can't blame Thayer anyway. Ace was my favorite back in the day, but nothing lasts forever.
pittsburghsteelers 2 years ago
You're right, Tommy isn't anything because Gene and Paul are not letting him shine, they are burying him under the persona that Ace Frehley created... We'll remember Carr as the Fox, and Vincent as the (whatever he was), but Singer and Thayer will always be in the shadow of the Catman and Space Ace, and I blame Gene and Paul for that...
BigHarryTesticles 2 years ago 3
very true
Speros11 2 years ago
Tommy and Eric are doing their best to keep Kiss going. It's not Gene or Pauls fault that Ace and Peter shit on the bands dream. Peter couldn't keep up and Ace was drunk half the time, then they constantly cmplained about money even though they were traveling in limos and staying in five star suites. Watch "Rock the Nation" it's actually, musically, better than the farewell tour. It's a much tighter "machine". why blame this all on Gene? Ace and Peter quit, sold their trademarks and quit. Drag.
talktopete 3 years ago
Singer and Thayer might be nice guys, but KISS w/ them in makeup is just Simmons, Stanley, and Associates.
Hovenaut 3 years ago
scab scab scab scab scab scab o_o
SkwisgaarCawk 3 years ago
you're a whiner. Ace quit due to drug and alcohol problems. I personally saw him WASTED on the farewell tour, then due to Peters problems they had to slow the tempo down just so he could keep up. Tommy created Kisstory as well as The Second Coming as well as being Aces tech. I admit maybe he should have different makeup but the overseas fans would never accept it. They only see KISS as those 4 faces. Look what happened when they toured for creatures. No one went. A sad situation.
talktopete 3 years ago
Bullshit. When Eric Carr replaced Peter, you know how quickly he was accepted overseas?
Stevo907 3 years ago 2
Yes, but he had different makeup. He was loved in Australia but in AMERICA they were totally rejected. I saw the Creatures of the Night show in St. Louis, there was less than 3,000 people in attendance in a 12,000 seat venue. The tour went bankrupt. Everyone kept complaining "they don't even have Peter or Ace". I went by myself, my freinds wouldn't go. So you either support the band or stay home. Your choice. Thanks/.
talktopete 3 years ago
The point I was making was, Australia accepted Eric Carr with different make-up.
I'm not saying they would accept anything less than the original four faces *now*, but my point remains they accepted a brand new makeup style at the time.
Stevo907 3 years ago
Point well taken Steveo. Thanks! Have a great week.
talktopete 3 years ago
I find this point interesting. Australia, as a market place, didn't really know the band before Eric. Like many I had been exposed to the solo albums, Alive 2 & Dynasty but that wasn't the case for everyone. I think Oz in 1980 was just keen to see the band, Eric was the drummer that played and we were happy. You have to remember that the Beatles had a replacement drummer out here(no Ringo) and AC/DC had recently replaced the late Bon Scott with Brian the butcher.. and the Americans love him!
SlutGutsproductions 3 years ago
That said, I'm glad that Singer & Thayer are helping to keep the band moving. Since 1995 Kiss have really built a relationship with the Oz Fans thanks to Kulick, Carr, Singer & Thayer. In 80, 97 & 01 Ace showed up pissed &/or stoned. In 01 Peter threw a tantrum and didn't show and for the Symphony just didn't seem to be able to cope. Neither Ace or Peter have toured here solo. Kulick & Singer do it regularly & Stanley has done too. Ace & Peter have not shown Oz fans the respect we deserve
SlutGutsproductions 3 years ago 3
it had nothing to do with the lineup change. kiss was in decline in america cause they shit on the hardcore rock fans by releasing dynasty, unmasked, then the elder.
i still love kiss to this very day, and always will. theres nothing wrong with moving on, but to have eric, who i love, and that ass tommy thayer in ace and peters makeup is just wrong.
shinnox 3 years ago
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YOU ARE THE SCAB. UNION LABORER
talktopete 3 years ago
Tommy might be a nice guy, but he and Eric Singer choose to be the biggest SCABS ever in rock and roll history. They walked into a landmine field of criticism when they whored themselves out as the "Fake" Ace and Peter...he has tons of $, but no respect from zillions of true KISS fans!
Welshbluesman 3 years ago
Respect and respect... The only respect you DON'T have is the respect for those who support it.
So you want two guys who have got two chances to be members of one the greatest band in rock history and then blowed them...?
Stop acting like a fool and show some sympathy for people who don't hate this at all.
Accept91 3 years ago
You are full of shit and an angry person. The Rock the Nation tour was packed in almost every city. You can only be a scab in a union dispute, Ace quit and so did Peter. If you don't like it too bad. It's too late to design new "Characters". It would ruin the franchise over seas and in America as well. Ace quit due to alcohol and drug issues as well as greed. Peter retired. So do you think because of those 2 guys, KISS should quit? You my friend are the scab.
talktopete 3 years ago
hard to hear TOmmy's answers
AngryAgain 3 years ago
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agree.we got crap.maybe a fuckin album!
piolostanley 4 years ago
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I ask for all kiss fans to boycott all kiss products until Ace & Peter are back in the band. It is an utter disgrace to have their make up on someone elses face. I am so pissed. I wanted the best & I got crap!!!!
Oct31st1517 4 years ago
your fucking retarded. grow up.
KissRocksForever 3 years ago
I can't believe that there are kiss fans accepting these POSERS. This is not KISS.
Oct31st1517 3 years ago