Either they are very bad kissers... or the actors are soo straight that they can´t get in too character. Whatever it is the kiss was not belivable. (the kiss was bad acting)
Hey, Teddy. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that someone saw us kissing immediately after I agreed to give you time to come out. Where would that bring us?
@looker768 That's waht good about it. They are giving them the same treatment as a straight coupole. Kind of a way to make it seem like love is love and couple are couples.
@DiLancreRoyalty yes. Its happens all over at our school - we make out and kiss, both with our gay friends and str8 friends Just anthother way to show love and freak out tho homophobes, Some of whom get boners watching
@looker768 claims, "this is not an accurate portrayal of queer behaviour at all..."
Let me help educate you in reality. Real-life gay couples come in all shapes& sizes & behavior, just like str8 ones do. The majority of gay men are just as masculine as heteros, although there are more "feminine" men in both the gay & str8 communities.
Of course, in your own queer relationship, you are free to act as feminine as you want. As I say, there are feminine guys like you everywhere, too.
@looker768 I don't get it, what do you mean? Are you saying that one of them potray a man and the other one potrays a female/feminine and they seem like a straight couple?
@Jakeexmvs I think they were simply saying that because the two characters are good looking, they would create beautiful offspring together if they could. :)
ok there s just smth strange about homosexual men and women. why does one feel the need to enter or be entered by the other? it sounds like one has the need for a female substitute and the other for a male substitute. to me it seems more logic if gays accepted each other as they r since that s the whole point of homosexuality and perform other sexual acts rather than those made for a man and woman. in complete logic the only thing gay ppl can do is kiss which also means homosexuality is illogic
@aurajinv lol ok i m a woman but anywho. i was only hoping for constructive criticism or other opinions. if i wanted to write how much i hate gay ppl i wud have so i m not bashing.
@smukase Who says woman can not have bum fun? Everyone has an asshole, they're like opinions. And since your opinion is that being gay is "illogical", you are bashing, gurrl.
@aurajinv what i mean by that is i dont understand how it makes sense. i understand the love part (soul and soul) but not the sex part (physical). i kno anal sex but honestly to me it has nothing to do with homosexuality per se, it has always been around. i believe there is a societal push which is skyrocketing homosexuality these days, passively encouraging youth that it s even fashionable. of course ppl have been practising it since ancient times but it existed as a perversion...
@aurajinv ...smth must have changed and intellectualism has nothing to do with it since there is enough proof of many cultures that were highly civilized, advanced and educated. i think smth just changed here in the west. i of course understand that for those who r gay, it s important to be acknowledged and respected and that s what ppl should do now cuz it s too late. but i still think there s smth psychological about it that just doesnt make sense to me. i only hope to open a discourse is all.
@aurajinv i dont mean to offend anyone, i respect those who respect me no matter how our opinions differ. i strongly believe that ppl cant dictate others how to live but they can share advice and have serious open discourses which will lead to realistic solutions rather than just try to appease each other. when u look at it that way, we can actually say that no has one ever taken gay ppl seriously. more like, lets just give them what they want and they ll shut up, dont u think?
@aurajinv well anywho i m not homophobic since i have no fear nor hate for gay ppl. lets just say it s merely the act that bothers me. we all come out of the womb the same, it s the paths we "choose" that differentiate us from each other. well if everything is choice then that means we choose our own way of life and we r influenced and conditioned by its surroundings and consequences. so u create ur life then it creates u, but ultimately u have the control from the beginning right? self control.
@smukase Okay, you missed my point completely. It was this - You are saying things that are offensive but you actually aren't aware that they are. Listen.
First you were talking about educated societies accepting gays and our sex, like how could they?? Lol! You also touched on being gay as a fashionable thing to do, almost like it is a season trend.
Now you're saying that sexuality is a choice.
Many people have NO control over who they are sexually attracted to.
I would suggest you educated yourself with some literature before posting anymore of your opinions about this topic on the internet.
@aurajinv there is nothing that i cud learn that wud change my opinion on homosexuality becuz whether i like it or not, it s part of this society already. also, u are not getting me either, more like making your own conclusion from everything i m saying, rather than understanding. but since u r accusing me of not being informed enuf about this topic, i wud like to prove to u otherwise. in fact i have taken time to study it and find out a lot...
@aurajinv the word homosexual itself is recent becuz the 2 cultures, greek and latin from which the word is derived, r among the youngest ones in the world. there r cultures that are up to 10.000 years old and even older so in order to find out if homosexuality is smth that has always existed everywhere in the world, we wud have to look at those older non-european cultures. but just to make my point first, i ll start with the greeks...
@aurajinv the greeks r infamous for practising open homosexuality even more than it is right now. altho when i look at other european tribes like goths or vikings, homosexuality didnt exist, rather it was smth to either humiliate another man or it was a practise only slaves did. lets just say the male/male, female/female relationship didnt exist as it was for the greeks, but the practise was still practised. so to me it looks like smth strictly european....
@aurajinv as i stated before, to see if homosexuality has always been a global thing, we wud have to look at other cultures as well, some who r even older than modern europe right (greeks, romans etc.) and maybe even older than even the egyptians. 1 such civilization i came across was the jarawa from the andaman islands. they walk around naked in front of each other ever day since childhood, yet there is r no sexual tension among them and no such thing as homosexuality...
@smukase Wait, are you serious? Ancient Greece was very very tolerant of homosexuality and often indulged in it. Ancient Greece in its intelligence and acceptance was rather superior to many other cultures of the time, even now still. You often have lack of acceptance of homosexuality when you bring religion into the equation. Homosexuality is also very prevalent in Africa. Gays die there, legally, because it isn't accepted. The more it is accepted, the more advanced society becomes.
@MikeIsEvil yes i am aware of open homosexuakity in greece which was practised even more than today, maybe u might have misunderstood 1 of my comments. however i have to disagree with ur ur baseless assumption that the greek civilization was superior to others. this blindness of white supremacy is very regressive and is the foundation of bigotry. to me the issue of homosexuality hasnt been taken seriously enuf, it is either being appeased and avoided or thoughtlessly bashed
@MikeIsEvil dont blame africans for not agreeing with homosexuality. to them it is a modern anomaly that has been forced on them and they dont kno how to deal with it. if u r interested in knowing how homosexuality has been introduced in africa, i can explain sum of the brutal events that took place during colonization. of course their way of dealing with it now is just as brutal since it s not up to anyone to play God. there r more civilized ways of fighting smth.
@MikeIsEvil anywho, society will start advancing the day all hidden truths and information have been revealed. which of course will never happen unless it is a miracle. without this ppl will not understand the hidden side of many things that r happening or will/may come to pass. till then ppl like me who r a bit informed about such thing r fated to always be labled as fools and conspiracy theorists. but it s still better than the misguided and conditioned masses.
@aurajinv i came to find out that this is the same for the san people in south africa and the nuba people in sudan. these are among sum of the oldest civilizations on earth. so this is direct proof that homosexuality is smth that came much later and sprouted from 1 single area, which is europe and later spread across many other cultures which became mixed with europeans. so homosexuality seems to be influenced and accepted here, rather than being smth that is natural to everyone
@aurajinv ...so i hope u dont misunderstand again, i m simply telling u things as they are. yes, i do think homosexuality is being pushed into society here and i have heard from many youths through different online polls that bisexuality is now fashionable. many girls even let their boyfriends make out with other men because it s sexy etc. so i dont see what else u think i need to learn, i dunno which euphemisms u want me to use, it still wont make my opinions and the facts any different.
@smukase You say "there is nothing that i cud learn that wud change my opinion on homosexuality"
Well, I won't waste my time, because you are all knowing and have all the answers.
But seriously, having an open mind to new ideas is important. If you want to go through life with the mindset that you know everything and that your opinion is the best, you will find it learning and changing things difficult.
@aurajinv I didn't ask for a history lesson, you obviously have some misguided beliefs. Heck, I did too, when younger and influenced by religion. That's why I can say your opinions are misguided because I too used to have similar ones to yours! I recognise them for what they are.
Your opinions are not facts. Homosexuality has been known to exist in many cultures, IT IS NATURAL and found ALL OVER THE WORLD. People CAN NOT be "influenced" to be gay, that is a ridiculous assumption!
@aurajinv People are born with sexual tendencies, they do not "choose" them.
You also said "...u are not getting me either, more like making your own conclusion from everything i m saying,..."
I only summarised everything you said, because you can't seem to do it yourself. What you have said, could have been said with much less words and confusion.
If I am not understanding something you have said, it is because your command of the English language is subpar, which it is.
@aurajinv So, in conclusion, keep an open mind about learning new ideas, analyse your own and be open to admitting when you have offended others/admitting you are wrong (which, too you never actually did even though your opinions are offensive to minorities).
Good bye. I feel this conversation has reached a point where there is nothing more to add, so I will not. I will simply leave you with some wise words from Socrates:
@aurajinv fyi english is my second language so of course it s not perfect but that s irrelevant since u seem to understand me perfectly right? anywho u accuse me of being all-knowing yet again, u have already made several conclusions without ever asking or allowing me to explain myself. 1 of them being that i just have to be misguided since i m young right? i refute all of that so allow me to explain, dont worry, i ll keep it short...
@aurajinv i kno why nothing cud change my opinion at this point becuz i ve been seen things thru all possible sides before making my conclusion. u may not believe me but that s not my concern. all i can tell u is that i m not influenced by religion since i dont believe in it, but common sense. and maybe my common sense might be faulty and wrong but i trust it since so far it has kept me from demonizing gay ppl and many other ridiculous things. and why shouldn't i?
@aurajinv if more ppl used common sense they d be less violent. anywho i am looking at ur comment where u tell me that i should admit when i have offended ppl, i already told u from the beginning that i have no interest in offending anyone. if u feel offended u r not obliged to continue this discussion with me but u cant force me to tell u that i m offending u when it s not my intention. i m not insulting gay ppl in any way, just disagreeing, and u seem to be intolerant for this
I gotta say it. Who directed this scene? Come on boys get into it! Where is the passion in that kiss? It should have been sizzling for two people who are sexually attracted to each other. "I want to be with you" then they kiss with ZERO passion! LOL
@clairglen1 cuz most of us really care about how we look... and a general consensus says we have to be hot. so we try to 'play the part'. that, and gay men tend to like other, muscular or athletic gay men. that has been your gay lesson for the day, enjoy the video clip~!
I wonder if these two guys got together after the cameras stopped and achieved penetration.
ryan33bttm 15 hours ago
someone should explain to Teddy that in America when you look like THAT nothing else matters
kohstamojahn 1 day ago
Ian is the typical gay guy with no self esteem to say yes to the closet case.
ToutCQJM 1 day ago
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK !!!! O.O
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :S
emadsabbah89 1 day ago
@emadsabbah89
thats coming from u? try looking urself up in a mirror! :)
subhankarzac 1 day ago
@emadsabbah89
lol you must be a little kid. You have a lot to learn before your parents let you out into the real world.
MissONTM 19 hours ago
Nigga got rejected!
541RM 3 days ago
AAAAAAAA+++++++++
gayslive 3 days ago
love it and so beautiful.
corbin6141 3 days ago
So sweet
kilby991 5 days ago
lol at the black guy
Californiakid5 5 days ago
once again, black guys ruin everything!
williamtword 5 days ago
He better give him time, thats the hottest guy he'll ever get lol Noticed how he changed his tune once he realized that ha ha ha
RodTalon00 6 days ago
the kiss is so fake. it is not convincing! they are horrible actors, if you will call it acting!
dlrsa2 6 days ago
Of course they get caught! How cliché!
Typical bad writing.
trampletop 1 week ago
that was an awkward kiss. I don't believe a second of it.
QuickenedSand 1 week ago
i mean Trevor DonoVan is not on the show anymore so i stop watching the show...
greatworld1979 1 week ago
are they still on the show???
leonkennedy1259 1 week ago
the both of them are just way to pretty to not be gay:)))))
contacter 1 week ago 10
Either they are very bad kissers... or the actors are soo straight that they can´t get in too character. Whatever it is the kiss was not belivable. (the kiss was bad acting)
ggrr840 1 week ago
@ggrr840 You are so right! They should have taken lessons from Ryan Carnes!
wine31 1 week ago
That is the Kiss? Jjajaja, tHEY ARe so straight
jorge2809 1 week ago
whats the name of this song ? anybody knows could anyone tell me
haroldbekkeer 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@haroldbekkeer "State of Our Affairs" - Mt. Desolation
MrSewna 1 week ago
I wonder who is the bottom...
PacoMxxN 1 week ago
@PacoMxxN whichever one is more masculine and hung by my previous observations. (:
ghrpdx 1 week ago
If you want the song : Mt. Desolation - State Of Our Affairs :)
yougaatagaa 2 weeks ago
@yougaatagaa Thank youuu!
qwertyisyourfriend 1 week ago
Teddy is fucking sexy as a bitch. Yummy.
telephonemegaga 2 weeks ago
ohhhh sweet boy
TheEvilTJ 2 weeks ago
That was so sweet my cat exploded.
liotie 3 weeks ago 45
@liotie LMFAO,ur cat hahaha
sheru7mera7naam007 2 weeks ago
HOOOOTTTTT!!
Yci 3 weeks ago
Haha wayy to go Dixon :D This is really cute! -3
musicandbarbies101 3 weeks ago
WIN! sweet :)
quickdrawMMX 3 weeks ago
lol FAIL!
Johnathondx1118 3 weeks ago
Is the blond one named Teddy?
BunnyofLore 3 weeks ago
90210 - i only watched it because of Ian and Teddy
dazedgal 3 weeks ago
the blond guy looks like a ken doll.
daveheel 3 weeks ago
What's this movie/show called?!?!?
joachimbelmont1 3 weeks ago
@joachimbelmont1 90210 comes on tuesdays on CW at 8/7pm Central
ForbesFortune 3 weeks ago
@ForbesFortune lol comes
quickdrawMMX 3 weeks ago
They would look so sexy in bed together
Angelblade717 3 weeks ago
The kiss was sexy, but this gay stuff is so fake & annoying.
rippedshoe29 3 weeks ago
sooo sweet♥
nhatan3 3 weeks ago
I love the scene after that ,between dixon and navid .
Wizzard323 3 weeks ago
SOOOO CUTE!!!
robtul12 3 weeks ago
awwwwwww...:)
oofahman 3 weeks ago 2
PARDON THE NAME OF THE MOVIE SERIES THANKS
yosoyasiypunto81 3 weeks ago
Teddy is HOT and Ian is CUTE! <3
marthaisawsom 3 weeks ago 2
If it were possible they would make the cutest baby!
Jakeexmvs 3 weeks ago
THATS A VERY COOOOOOOOOOLD kiss
SpyAllex 3 weeks ago
now tht hottest guy in the blue shirt sounds even sexier wooo!!!!!!!!!! :DDDD <3<3<3<3
pkzadam115able 3 weeks ago
love this scene and the somg is just perfect,keep the hope alive people
rozza225 3 weeks ago
Ah dat other nigga guh
Christianwray14 3 weeks ago
Im a gay man, but im sorry, that kiss was about as sexy as a cold sore. yuk
diorryan 3 weeks ago 4
what show is this
Artfanatic01 4 weeks ago
That's about how I kiss my gramma
sdarms111 4 weeks ago
what happened after that?
talkingducksrgreat 1 month ago
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@talkingducksrgreat the nigger fucked them both!
grocop 4 weeks ago
Hey, Teddy. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that someone saw us kissing immediately after I agreed to give you time to come out. Where would that bring us?
SamhainTheDark 1 month ago
what's that song??
elvistcs 1 month ago
Teddy, lol... What a bad ass name.. (not) XD
sanlontos 1 month ago
Wow! Two beautiful guys kissing. I'm speechless.
supercarlitos2006 1 month ago
OMG, what happened next????
cretnotonic 1 month ago
Teddy looks so hot at 1:39 *-*
So manly and strong..
CalipsoPearl 1 month ago
This makes me so so jealous :(
Sebizzar 1 month ago
what movie is this?
crystal362436 1 month ago
@crystal362436 It's not a movie, it's a tv series. It's called 90210.
CalipsoPearl 1 month ago
Does this turn women on?
IsItEarthYet 1 month ago
thumbs if they are a good kisser lol
beaukim15 1 month ago
@beaukim15 even if there gay
beaukim15 1 month ago
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beaukim15 1 month ago
anyone know what the song is playing when they kiss?
scratich1 1 month ago
WOW!!..OK..NOW!!
SuperBullaMan 1 month ago
I thought this most the most genuine relationship in 90210 shame they broke up
IronDevil11 1 month ago
@IronDevil11 STUPID SPOILER
fri0gui 1 month ago
@fri0gui Not really when its been on, the U.S and the UK already...
IronDevil11 1 month ago
let me guess....the actors playing these roles are not gay...correct??
pietro0079 1 month ago 41
@pietro0079 It's just a little kiss. Anyone would do for money if it were your job.
DrDiscordia 6 days ago
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@pietro0079 It's just a little kiss. Anyone would do for money if it were your job.
DrDiscordia 6 days ago
@pietro0079 jajajaja if such is not
carlos22036 6 days ago
i normally don't like white guys and i really hated teddy for a long time, but this scene made me gush a bit, only a little, but gush nonetheless.
happymarkkj 1 month ago
fuck that would have me melted like honey running down a gang plank baby!
DIJITALSON 1 month ago
love is beautiful
Austriamusicmix 1 month ago
so sweet!
ruolinyuansan 1 month ago
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CaMote558 1 month ago
Oh he is so big!
l1ar1 1 month ago
look if u dont like the fucking vidoe dont click on it u homophopic freaks !!
08stoph8 1 month ago
That was hot.
Gjiinecti 1 month ago
this Teddy dude is fucking perfect!
AllTheBestIntentions 1 month ago 50
@AllTheBestIntentions PLEASE listen to my poem THERE WAS A WEDDING. It's true, compassionate and Godly! Give a listen!
TPOTTHEPOETOFTRUTH 2 weeks ago
woooow......so hot....aaawesome
MarioAbo123 1 month ago
They are so straight. Lmao.
YoItsJourdan 1 month ago
theyre gay in real life
elenavlada 1 month ago
@elenavlada that's even sadder to portray a lie that denies who they really are on such a horrible show....
looker768 1 month ago
@looker768 ?
elenavlada 1 month ago
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They don't even do anything gay. THeir just a straight couple but with two guys....this is not an accurate portrayal of queer behaviour at all....
looker768 1 month ago
@looker768 That's waht good about it. They are giving them the same treatment as a straight coupole. Kind of a way to make it seem like love is love and couple are couples.
DiLancreRoyalty 1 month ago 47
@DiLancreRoyalty yes. Its happens all over at our school - we make out and kiss, both with our gay friends and str8 friends Just anthother way to show love and freak out tho homophobes, Some of whom get boners watching
discoverwhaturmissin 1 month ago
@looker768 Being gay means liking someone of the same sex as you...gay never meant to act like the opposite sex....gays should still act manly
Romeerick 1 month ago
@Romeerick "should?"
looker768 1 month ago
@looker768 Yea...don't be feminine...
Romeerick 1 month ago
@looker768 Actually it is very accurate. Feminine guys are a minority.
Castillaleon19 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Manopoly16
@Castillaleon19 uhhhhhh. No.
xtopher 1 month ago
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@looker768 claims, "this is not an accurate portrayal of queer behaviour at all..."
Let me help educate you in reality. Real-life gay couples come in all shapes& sizes & behavior, just like str8 ones do. The majority of gay men are just as masculine as heteros, although there are more "feminine" men in both the gay & str8 communities.
Of course, in your own queer relationship, you are free to act as feminine as you want. As I say, there are feminine guys like you everywhere, too.
GodCreatesGays2 1 month ago
@looker768 I don't get it, what do you mean? Are you saying that one of them potray a man and the other one potrays a female/feminine and they seem like a straight couple?
Jakeexmvs 3 weeks ago
@Jakeexmvs I think they were simply saying that because the two characters are good looking, they would create beautiful offspring together if they could. :)
Sylongra 3 weeks ago
Awww that was so damn cute!! :)
glamourboy69 1 month ago
i love how he tries to stay all cool abouy i.... hes so screaming on the inside.....ive never watched this show so...yeah..>.>
SuPeRsKiTtLeStAlKeR 1 month ago
I want it too.... :/
vanemi428 1 month ago
I wwant that so bad.
Braybann 1 month ago
Aww :) that's so cute!
AdriannaMancini 1 month ago
Teddy & Ian ♥
thabataloveyou2000 1 month ago
ok there s just smth strange about homosexual men and women. why does one feel the need to enter or be entered by the other? it sounds like one has the need for a female substitute and the other for a male substitute. to me it seems more logic if gays accepted each other as they r since that s the whole point of homosexuality and perform other sexual acts rather than those made for a man and woman. in complete logic the only thing gay ppl can do is kiss which also means homosexuality is illogic
smukase 1 month ago
@smukase You just jealous b/c you ain't getting any bum fun! Sit down, sister!
aurajinv 1 month ago
@aurajinv lol ok i m a woman but anywho. i was only hoping for constructive criticism or other opinions. if i wanted to write how much i hate gay ppl i wud have so i m not bashing.
smukase 1 month ago
@smukase Who says woman can not have bum fun? Everyone has an asshole, they're like opinions. And since your opinion is that being gay is "illogical", you are bashing, gurrl.
aurajinv 1 month ago
@aurajinv what i mean by that is i dont understand how it makes sense. i understand the love part (soul and soul) but not the sex part (physical). i kno anal sex but honestly to me it has nothing to do with homosexuality per se, it has always been around. i believe there is a societal push which is skyrocketing homosexuality these days, passively encouraging youth that it s even fashionable. of course ppl have been practising it since ancient times but it existed as a perversion...
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv ...smth must have changed and intellectualism has nothing to do with it since there is enough proof of many cultures that were highly civilized, advanced and educated. i think smth just changed here in the west. i of course understand that for those who r gay, it s important to be acknowledged and respected and that s what ppl should do now cuz it s too late. but i still think there s smth psychological about it that just doesnt make sense to me. i only hope to open a discourse is all.
smukase 1 month ago
@smukase Not sure what exactly you are saying, smukase.
Can't we take a ride up the chocolate escalator simply for the primary reason it is pleasurable for both people involved!
From your intellectualism comment, I do detect a slight homophobia, perhaps you have opinions/borrowed ideas that you don't even know are offensive.
aurajinv 1 month ago
@aurajinv i dont mean to offend anyone, i respect those who respect me no matter how our opinions differ. i strongly believe that ppl cant dictate others how to live but they can share advice and have serious open discourses which will lead to realistic solutions rather than just try to appease each other. when u look at it that way, we can actually say that no has one ever taken gay ppl seriously. more like, lets just give them what they want and they ll shut up, dont u think?
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv well anywho i m not homophobic since i have no fear nor hate for gay ppl. lets just say it s merely the act that bothers me. we all come out of the womb the same, it s the paths we "choose" that differentiate us from each other. well if everything is choice then that means we choose our own way of life and we r influenced and conditioned by its surroundings and consequences. so u create ur life then it creates u, but ultimately u have the control from the beginning right? self control.
smukase 1 month ago
@smukase ??????? SHHHHHHHHHHH
Ichoselife77 1 month ago
@smukase Okay, you missed my point completely. It was this - You are saying things that are offensive but you actually aren't aware that they are. Listen.
aurajinv 1 month ago
@aurajinv
First you were talking about educated societies accepting gays and our sex, like how could they?? Lol! You also touched on being gay as a fashionable thing to do, almost like it is a season trend.
Now you're saying that sexuality is a choice.
Many people have NO control over who they are sexually attracted to.
I would suggest you educated yourself with some literature before posting anymore of your opinions about this topic on the internet.
aurajinv 1 month ago 2
@aurajinv there is nothing that i cud learn that wud change my opinion on homosexuality becuz whether i like it or not, it s part of this society already. also, u are not getting me either, more like making your own conclusion from everything i m saying, rather than understanding. but since u r accusing me of not being informed enuf about this topic, i wud like to prove to u otherwise. in fact i have taken time to study it and find out a lot...
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv the word homosexual itself is recent becuz the 2 cultures, greek and latin from which the word is derived, r among the youngest ones in the world. there r cultures that are up to 10.000 years old and even older so in order to find out if homosexuality is smth that has always existed everywhere in the world, we wud have to look at those older non-european cultures. but just to make my point first, i ll start with the greeks...
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv the greeks r infamous for practising open homosexuality even more than it is right now. altho when i look at other european tribes like goths or vikings, homosexuality didnt exist, rather it was smth to either humiliate another man or it was a practise only slaves did. lets just say the male/male, female/female relationship didnt exist as it was for the greeks, but the practise was still practised. so to me it looks like smth strictly european....
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv as i stated before, to see if homosexuality has always been a global thing, we wud have to look at other cultures as well, some who r even older than modern europe right (greeks, romans etc.) and maybe even older than even the egyptians. 1 such civilization i came across was the jarawa from the andaman islands. they walk around naked in front of each other ever day since childhood, yet there is r no sexual tension among them and no such thing as homosexuality...
smukase 1 month ago
@smukase Wait, are you serious? Ancient Greece was very very tolerant of homosexuality and often indulged in it. Ancient Greece in its intelligence and acceptance was rather superior to many other cultures of the time, even now still. You often have lack of acceptance of homosexuality when you bring religion into the equation. Homosexuality is also very prevalent in Africa. Gays die there, legally, because it isn't accepted. The more it is accepted, the more advanced society becomes.
MikeIsEvil 1 month ago
@MikeIsEvil yes i am aware of open homosexuakity in greece which was practised even more than today, maybe u might have misunderstood 1 of my comments. however i have to disagree with ur ur baseless assumption that the greek civilization was superior to others. this blindness of white supremacy is very regressive and is the foundation of bigotry. to me the issue of homosexuality hasnt been taken seriously enuf, it is either being appeased and avoided or thoughtlessly bashed
smukase 1 month ago
@MikeIsEvil dont blame africans for not agreeing with homosexuality. to them it is a modern anomaly that has been forced on them and they dont kno how to deal with it. if u r interested in knowing how homosexuality has been introduced in africa, i can explain sum of the brutal events that took place during colonization. of course their way of dealing with it now is just as brutal since it s not up to anyone to play God. there r more civilized ways of fighting smth.
smukase 1 month ago
@MikeIsEvil anywho, society will start advancing the day all hidden truths and information have been revealed. which of course will never happen unless it is a miracle. without this ppl will not understand the hidden side of many things that r happening or will/may come to pass. till then ppl like me who r a bit informed about such thing r fated to always be labled as fools and conspiracy theorists. but it s still better than the misguided and conditioned masses.
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv i came to find out that this is the same for the san people in south africa and the nuba people in sudan. these are among sum of the oldest civilizations on earth. so this is direct proof that homosexuality is smth that came much later and sprouted from 1 single area, which is europe and later spread across many other cultures which became mixed with europeans. so homosexuality seems to be influenced and accepted here, rather than being smth that is natural to everyone
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv ...so i hope u dont misunderstand again, i m simply telling u things as they are. yes, i do think homosexuality is being pushed into society here and i have heard from many youths through different online polls that bisexuality is now fashionable. many girls even let their boyfriends make out with other men because it s sexy etc. so i dont see what else u think i need to learn, i dunno which euphemisms u want me to use, it still wont make my opinions and the facts any different.
smukase 1 month ago
@smukase You say "there is nothing that i cud learn that wud change my opinion on homosexuality"
Well, I won't waste my time, because you are all knowing and have all the answers.
But seriously, having an open mind to new ideas is important. If you want to go through life with the mindset that you know everything and that your opinion is the best, you will find it learning and changing things difficult.
aurajinv 1 month ago
@aurajinv I didn't ask for a history lesson, you obviously have some misguided beliefs. Heck, I did too, when younger and influenced by religion. That's why I can say your opinions are misguided because I too used to have similar ones to yours! I recognise them for what they are.
Your opinions are not facts. Homosexuality has been known to exist in many cultures, IT IS NATURAL and found ALL OVER THE WORLD. People CAN NOT be "influenced" to be gay, that is a ridiculous assumption!
aurajinv 1 month ago
@aurajinv People are born with sexual tendencies, they do not "choose" them.
You also said "...u are not getting me either, more like making your own conclusion from everything i m saying,..."
I only summarised everything you said, because you can't seem to do it yourself. What you have said, could have been said with much less words and confusion.
If I am not understanding something you have said, it is because your command of the English language is subpar, which it is.
aurajinv 1 month ago
@aurajinv So, in conclusion, keep an open mind about learning new ideas, analyse your own and be open to admitting when you have offended others/admitting you are wrong (which, too you never actually did even though your opinions are offensive to minorities).
Good bye. I feel this conversation has reached a point where there is nothing more to add, so I will not. I will simply leave you with some wise words from Socrates:
"An unexamined life is not worth living"
aurajinv 1 month ago
@aurajinv fyi english is my second language so of course it s not perfect but that s irrelevant since u seem to understand me perfectly right? anywho u accuse me of being all-knowing yet again, u have already made several conclusions without ever asking or allowing me to explain myself. 1 of them being that i just have to be misguided since i m young right? i refute all of that so allow me to explain, dont worry, i ll keep it short...
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv i kno why nothing cud change my opinion at this point becuz i ve been seen things thru all possible sides before making my conclusion. u may not believe me but that s not my concern. all i can tell u is that i m not influenced by religion since i dont believe in it, but common sense. and maybe my common sense might be faulty and wrong but i trust it since so far it has kept me from demonizing gay ppl and many other ridiculous things. and why shouldn't i?
smukase 1 month ago
@aurajinv if more ppl used common sense they d be less violent. anywho i am looking at ur comment where u tell me that i should admit when i have offended ppl, i already told u from the beginning that i have no interest in offending anyone. if u feel offended u r not obliged to continue this discussion with me but u cant force me to tell u that i m offending u when it s not my intention. i m not insulting gay ppl in any way, just disagreeing, and u seem to be intolerant for this
smukase 1 month ago
if i had a bf that was this hot i would kiss him in front of my perants i would care less of being gay ^_^
zackery209 2 months ago
Oh Ian you lucky bitch youu
WishingXBelowXDreams 2 months ago
name of the song on the background sil vous plait :D
manibarrios 2 months ago
busted!
TOTALCONTROL871 2 months ago
Does the guy who walked in on them, out the closeted gay guy?
RodTalon0000 2 months ago
i bet the teddy actor was shocked the day he read the script... ha but aren't we all just ecstatic. lol
lilsister2 2 months ago
@lilsister2 yet he seemed gay enough in the kiss.so whatever he read doesn't matter.:-)
JRRDPR 2 months ago
Does anyone know what the song is that starts playing around 0.54. Thanks
bobk 2 months ago
I am BI and proud of it. Don't go hatin' on people for who they are. Why are haters even here? All haters can go suck the cock i don't have
swiftpath11 2 months ago
sucks !
RoaJay1 2 months ago
I love Teddy's nose :(
Justdontaskmewhat 2 months ago
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Flowerrrays 2 months ago
LMFAO at the guy's face at the end! XD Hahahaha!
CollDude83572 2 months ago
Mierda!!! que era totalmente nuevo para mí !!
MrWeeman105 2 months ago
Someone always is peaking in on someones personal life. lmafo...
casiey258 2 months ago
wat's the title of this series???
nave1107 2 months ago
@nave1107
90210
umarslayerful 2 months ago
@nave1107 It's called 90210
chocolatevanillchips 2 months ago
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I gotta say it. Who directed this scene? Come on boys get into it! Where is the passion in that kiss? It should have been sizzling for two people who are sexually attracted to each other. "I want to be with you" then they kiss with ZERO passion! LOL
jimsed1964 2 months ago
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jimsed1964 2 months ago
What season is this?
Perfection2308 2 months ago
@Perfection2308 season 3
rociobarrueto 2 months ago
the writers of 90210 could have just left these two they were too cute and hot
and they didnt even let them last at all
that was sad :(
nobility90 2 months ago
So, is "90210" the name of the show? And how much gay scenes are there? Because if there's a lot of them, I guess I just have to start watching it.
quo33 2 months ago
Muito bom! gostei tb!Muito romantico!adorei!
saulovhm 2 months ago
why the fuck are all gay men really fitt
clairglen1 2 months ago
@clairglen1 cuz most of us really care about how we look... and a general consensus says we have to be hot. so we try to 'play the part'. that, and gay men tend to like other, muscular or athletic gay men. that has been your gay lesson for the day, enjoy the video clip~!
TheDevimangel 2 months ago
@TheDevimangel i shall keep that in mind thanks x
clairglen1 2 months ago
i don't like teddy very much...
jijijhik 2 months ago