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I disagree, Religious beliefs do not always translate to political beliefs. I am a devout Christian, and I support Gay Marriage for example. There should definitely be a separation in Church and State. God did not put us on Earth to enforce his laws, he dose that on his own. Our job is to spread our faith, not force it unto others. Otherwise, God would not have given us free will.
@character654 Where in the Bible dose it say "Go forth and force my laws onto others"? Everything I have read talks about how not all will follow Christ and will have hard hearts, and will get there punishment after, and it is not mans job to enforce God's law and to punish men when they do not follow it. God dose that himself. Government is designed to protect each mans Life, Liberty, and Property, not force people unto God, unless you want to relive the Inquisition.. Please give me some verses
@character654 Agreed! Christians should follow Gods law. I am in 100% support of that. However, it is not our place to force this, either. After all, people need to follow God's law not because there forced to, but because they love God, and want to follow his law.
@LovehammerMedia You make it sound as if God's law is merely a suggestion. God DEMANDS perfection, perfection we humans cannot achieve, that is why through grace he sent his son. We will be judged on how we use or misuse the grace He has given us.
Again: "The point here is NOT to force God's law onto others, but for Christians to follow it."
@LovehammerMedia Biblical truth should penetrate every aspect of a Christians life, including their view on Politics. The Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful. It is hard to believe that your a devout Christian when you deny the bible.
@mvadim25 But you see, I have read all of the Bible, and not just the laws. Jesus says to love all, and not to judge others because non of us are without sin. He teaches that mankind was not put on the Earth to enforce his laws, but to spread his word, and to love all. "God made the Sabbath for man, not man for the Sabbath" -Jesus Christ
@LovehammerMedia We definitely need to love others, thats one of the greatest commandments. Everyone in fact has sinned. But God commands us to obey authorities up to the point were they start telling Christians to do something that is not biblical. By supporting gay marriage you are violating a direct biblical commandment. Homosexuals are constantly rebelling from God, without repentance from their ways. Thus they cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.
@mvadim25 We are not disobeying the Bible, we are allowing others to live there lives, and have different beliefs than us. I'm not saying I think everybody should be homosexual, or anything, and Christians should certainly not be. However we should not force others into the Christian life style, any more than we should ban sex before marriage, and not keeping the sabbath holy. can you imagine that? Two weeks in jail for working on Sunday!
@LovehammerMedia Can you PLEASE! explain to me what you mean by devout Christian and after explaining that to me please tell me if you believe that the Bible is the direct sovereign word of God
@LovehammerMedia so if you support gay marriages and you are a devout Christian, and still you say that we should not force God's law on others which is right by the way, so how will they see Christ in you when you agree for them to Live in their sin, here being the support of Gay Marriages? is homosexuality okay with God's Law my dear devout Christian?
VB refers to Isaiah 3:12, which shows the bottom-line meaning in all of this: It's not that women are not allowed by God to have leadership roles in govt or even in the church. It is a condemnation of MEN who have abdicated their own responsibilities to do so according to God's direction in the first place. Scripture doesn't say women like SP CAN'T lead, it says she shouldn't HAVE TO!
@momofour You are correct in saying that she shouldn't have to - she doesn't have to. There were two good men running who were more than capable of handling the job.
As far as leadership roles I'll refer you again to 1Tim. 2: 12-14.
I believe america is the reflection of ancient Israel. The reason Sarah Palin is to become president is similar to Deborah and Barak; Barack is barak with a 'c' and sarah is the wife of abraham--sarah palin is born feb 11 and lincoln is born feb 12 AND they both have a spouse named TODD
The important point is the distinction of the two places--evangelical churches who interpret scripture to prohibit women in CHURCH leadership versus other gender-neutral roles in a culture. The Bible doesn't speak to women's role in POLITICS. The scripture where God directs men to be 'head of the family'- is directly speaking of the SPIRITUAL head. Proverbs 31 speaks to the plethora of roles a woman 'should' fill in her home, including being entrepeneurial, industrious, engenious, diplomatic.
@momofour 1Tim. 2: 12-14 does not distinguish between church or political leadership, it covers leadership period, therefore covering politics as well. Isaiah 3, as Voddie pointed out, states that women in leadership roles (politics) is a sign of God's judgment on a nation. As for Proverbs 31, the key phrase is "in her home".
@character654 You're incorrect that Paul doesn't distinguish betw church or political leadership. (see 1:3-he clearly says he's referring to worship and spiritual growth-he's also quite clear that he is stating HIS leadership style in such situations (false teachers and dischord as opposed to something God has instructed that GOD doesn't allow-even in the church as a whole)
Here's what I've got: Voddie Baucham is not to usurp authority over Todd Palin's marriage. If Todd wants Sarah to seek political office, that is the only opinion that matters. Many men dislike church because of pastors butting in their noses into their congregants' personal family issues.
@TFarache The only thing the matters is the text. If Sarah seeks office that doesn't just affect Todd but me and my family as well. Christians can't have it both ways, one can't pick and choose the parts that suit one's own personal opinions.
@character654 You're incorrect that Paul doesn't distinguish between roles in church and roles in politics. (see vs 11; where he specifies that a woman should "learn in quiet"--this is quite specifically instructions for worship and spiritual growth. Paul says so in 1:3.) It doesnt' refer to any role outside of the church. And incidentally, Paul is clear that HE doesn't allow it, not that GOD doesn't allow it.
@character654 You're incorrect that Paul doesn't distinguish between roles in church and roles in politics. (see vs 11; where he specifies that a woman should "learn in quiet"--this is quite specifically instructions for worship and spiritual growth. Paul says so in 1:3.) It doesnt' refer to any role outside of the church. And incidentally, Paul is clear that HE doesn't allow it, not that GOD doesn't allow it.
@character654 Yes, the text of the scripture is the important thing. We Christians can't have it both ways and we must always use the same criteria to interpret scripture. ( context, who is receiving, etc). We must not constrict God's Word just as we should not expand it to mean something it doesn't mean. i.e. Proverbs 31 refers to roles a Godly wife fulfills in her home not WITHIN the walls of her home. She goes to far places to provide food, she buys and sells property. She earns wages.
@momofour The scripture clearly states that a woman in a POLITICAL leadership role is a sign of judgment, Judgment is a bad thing.
If Palin were in a political leadership role, as long as I am a citizen that would put her over MY house. The phrase in her home is Not in the geographical sense but in the family unit sense.
bullshit religious cunts. shaaaart thaaa faaark uuuup
jonrotten31 6 months ago
You tell them Voddie!!!!
princesselizabeth4 6 months ago
"The culture doesn't define the truth, it's the gospel that defines the truth"
I like this guy.
johnt3hbaptist 7 months ago
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I disagree, Religious beliefs do not always translate to political beliefs. I am a devout Christian, and I support Gay Marriage for example. There should definitely be a separation in Church and State. God did not put us on Earth to enforce his laws, he dose that on his own. Our job is to spread our faith, not force it unto others. Otherwise, God would not have given us free will.
LovehammerMedia 1 year ago
@LovehammerMedia I would strongly suggest you pick up a copy of the KJV Bible and do some studying.
character654 1 year ago 5
@character654 Where in the Bible dose it say "Go forth and force my laws onto others"? Everything I have read talks about how not all will follow Christ and will have hard hearts, and will get there punishment after, and it is not mans job to enforce God's law and to punish men when they do not follow it. God dose that himself. Government is designed to protect each mans Life, Liberty, and Property, not force people unto God, unless you want to relive the Inquisition.. Please give me some verses
LovehammerMedia 1 year ago
@LovehammerMedia The point here is NOT to force God's law onto others, but for Christians to follow it.
character654 1 year ago
@character654 Agreed! Christians should follow Gods law. I am in 100% support of that. However, it is not our place to force this, either. After all, people need to follow God's law not because there forced to, but because they love God, and want to follow his law.
LovehammerMedia 11 months ago
@LovehammerMedia You make it sound as if God's law is merely a suggestion. God DEMANDS perfection, perfection we humans cannot achieve, that is why through grace he sent his son. We will be judged on how we use or misuse the grace He has given us.
Again: "The point here is NOT to force God's law onto others, but for Christians to follow it."
character654 11 months ago
@character654 I am not disagreeing with any of this.
LovehammerMedia 11 months ago
@LovehammerMedia Biblical truth should penetrate every aspect of a Christians life, including their view on Politics. The Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful. It is hard to believe that your a devout Christian when you deny the bible.
mvadim25 11 months ago
@mvadim25 But you see, I have read all of the Bible, and not just the laws. Jesus says to love all, and not to judge others because non of us are without sin. He teaches that mankind was not put on the Earth to enforce his laws, but to spread his word, and to love all. "God made the Sabbath for man, not man for the Sabbath" -Jesus Christ
LovehammerMedia 11 months ago
@LovehammerMedia We definitely need to love others, thats one of the greatest commandments. Everyone in fact has sinned. But God commands us to obey authorities up to the point were they start telling Christians to do something that is not biblical. By supporting gay marriage you are violating a direct biblical commandment. Homosexuals are constantly rebelling from God, without repentance from their ways. Thus they cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.
mvadim25 11 months ago
@mvadim25 We are not disobeying the Bible, we are allowing others to live there lives, and have different beliefs than us. I'm not saying I think everybody should be homosexual, or anything, and Christians should certainly not be. However we should not force others into the Christian life style, any more than we should ban sex before marriage, and not keeping the sabbath holy. can you imagine that? Two weeks in jail for working on Sunday!
LovehammerMedia 11 months ago
@LovehammerMedia Can you PLEASE! explain to me what you mean by devout Christian and after explaining that to me please tell me if you believe that the Bible is the direct sovereign word of God
CallmeMell 9 months ago
@LovehammerMedia so if you support gay marriages and you are a devout Christian, and still you say that we should not force God's law on others which is right by the way, so how will they see Christ in you when you agree for them to Live in their sin, here being the support of Gay Marriages? is homosexuality okay with God's Law my dear devout Christian?
minjesh 6 months ago
VB refers to Isaiah 3:12, which shows the bottom-line meaning in all of this: It's not that women are not allowed by God to have leadership roles in govt or even in the church. It is a condemnation of MEN who have abdicated their own responsibilities to do so according to God's direction in the first place. Scripture doesn't say women like SP CAN'T lead, it says she shouldn't HAVE TO!
momofour 1 year ago
@momofour You are correct in saying that she shouldn't have to - she doesn't have to. There were two good men running who were more than capable of handling the job.
As far as leadership roles I'll refer you again to 1Tim. 2: 12-14.
character654 1 year ago
I believe america is the reflection of ancient Israel. The reason Sarah Palin is to become president is similar to Deborah and Barak; Barack is barak with a 'c' and sarah is the wife of abraham--sarah palin is born feb 11 and lincoln is born feb 12 AND they both have a spouse named TODD
49jubilee 1 year ago
The important point is the distinction of the two places--evangelical churches who interpret scripture to prohibit women in CHURCH leadership versus other gender-neutral roles in a culture. The Bible doesn't speak to women's role in POLITICS. The scripture where God directs men to be 'head of the family'- is directly speaking of the SPIRITUAL head. Proverbs 31 speaks to the plethora of roles a woman 'should' fill in her home, including being entrepeneurial, industrious, engenious, diplomatic.
momofour 1 year ago
@momofour 1Tim. 2: 12-14 does not distinguish between church or political leadership, it covers leadership period, therefore covering politics as well. Isaiah 3, as Voddie pointed out, states that women in leadership roles (politics) is a sign of God's judgment on a nation. As for Proverbs 31, the key phrase is "in her home".
character654 1 year ago
@character654 You're incorrect that Paul doesn't distinguish betw church or political leadership. (see 1:3-he clearly says he's referring to worship and spiritual growth-he's also quite clear that he is stating HIS leadership style in such situations (false teachers and dischord as opposed to something God has instructed that GOD doesn't allow-even in the church as a whole)
momofour 1 year ago
The interviewer pulls out the sucker punch at 3:13 and Voddie handles it exceptionally. Thank you Voddie for your leadership!
Read the Bible peple!
thomaspaine2000 1 year ago
What have you got?
character654 2 years ago
@character654
Here's what I've got: Voddie Baucham is not to usurp authority over Todd Palin's marriage. If Todd wants Sarah to seek political office, that is the only opinion that matters. Many men dislike church because of pastors butting in their noses into their congregants' personal family issues.
TFarache 1 year ago
@TFarache The only thing the matters is the text. If Sarah seeks office that doesn't just affect Todd but me and my family as well. Christians can't have it both ways, one can't pick and choose the parts that suit one's own personal opinions.
character654 1 year ago
@character654
How does it affect your family in a negative way (assuming she does not bring about unjust laws)?
TFarache 1 year ago
@TFarache I would refer you to the video.
character654 1 year ago
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momofour 1 year ago
@character654 You're incorrect that Paul doesn't distinguish between roles in church and roles in politics. (see vs 11; where he specifies that a woman should "learn in quiet"--this is quite specifically instructions for worship and spiritual growth. Paul says so in 1:3.) It doesnt' refer to any role outside of the church. And incidentally, Paul is clear that HE doesn't allow it, not that GOD doesn't allow it.
momofour 1 year ago
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@character654 You're incorrect that Paul doesn't distinguish between roles in church and roles in politics. (see vs 11; where he specifies that a woman should "learn in quiet"--this is quite specifically instructions for worship and spiritual growth. Paul says so in 1:3.) It doesnt' refer to any role outside of the church. And incidentally, Paul is clear that HE doesn't allow it, not that GOD doesn't allow it.
momofour 1 year ago
@character654 Yes, the text of the scripture is the important thing. We Christians can't have it both ways and we must always use the same criteria to interpret scripture. ( context, who is receiving, etc). We must not constrict God's Word just as we should not expand it to mean something it doesn't mean. i.e. Proverbs 31 refers to roles a Godly wife fulfills in her home not WITHIN the walls of her home. She goes to far places to provide food, she buys and sells property. She earns wages.
momofour 1 year ago
@momofour The scripture clearly states that a woman in a POLITICAL leadership role is a sign of judgment, Judgment is a bad thing.
If Palin were in a political leadership role, as long as I am a citizen that would put her over MY house. The phrase in her home is Not in the geographical sense but in the family unit sense.
character654 1 year ago
Obviously said by someone who knows nothing of Christianity.
character654 2 years ago