Star Wars: The Force theme arrangement (Finale Notepad)

[TheJrw456]

What version did you make this with?

[violinmerchant]

@TheJrw456 Finale Notepad 2008. Ahhh, memories

[Teddy33196]

Yeah i can totally hit an A an octave above the staff with my tuba... -__- I mean who can't? actully i think its a double Bb.

[TheAwesomestSulley]

I arrange music for my band all the time I can help you with French horn parts!

[Taconut7]

Wow the second part for the trombone is WAY OUT OF RANGE

[EpicStudiosUSA]

That...is...FREAKIN' AWESOME!!!!!!!

[violinmerchant]

@EpicStudiosUSA thanks, dog! You obviously know about EPIC, so to hear it from you is really encouraging!

[aznkillu]

Use the Force.... and you will play this music...

[gagerafer]

Well I know the notes.....I don't know what I'm trying to say. Well when I'm using it the notes sound a lot lower on playback than when I'm just putting them on the staff

[violinmerchant]

@gagerafer have you changed the whole thing so it reads in concert pitch?

[gagerafer]

I was gonna was use the horn in F in a song but I don't understand it's notes. Can anyone help?

[sillysallykingdog]

@gagerafer i can help you if you still have questions.

[Cdog971]

what is the bottom part??

[violinmerchant]

@Cdog971 A Double Bass written in range for a piccolo

[gagerafer]

Sorry this is on my iPod so I keep posting comments I haven't finished. Anyways yah I dont understand at all.

[violinmerchant]

@gagerafer Patients/Patience. I'm like a doctor I have so much patients.

[gagerafer]

Sorry I don't on

[violinmerchant]

@gagerafer nor do I

[gagerafer]

@cooling

[gagerafer]

Can anyone tell me what MIDI is?

[violinmerchant]

@gagerafer Musical Instrument Digital Interface. Essentially, it is a low volume file type that stores information about music (such as tempo, bitch, dynamics etc.) for later playback. This is different from, say, an mp3 because a MIDI is typically very small and can be imported into various music notation software whereas an mp3 is larger and less versatile. You can think of a MIDI like a musician without an instrument.

[gagerafer]

Wow! That takes skill and patients! Nice job!!

[violinmerchant]

@gagerafer They call me Dr. violinmerchant. I have dozens of patients

[123Anthony45]

The Anonations Are Friggin Hilarious!

[kfzduhi]

As a tuba player, I have to say I laughed at the captions. Well played, sir.

[guyvascm]

the tuba is too high lower it at least one octave maybe even 2

[violinmerchant]

Man, I wish my top viewed video was one that people liked XD.

[robodroid00]

This made me feel like Jedi. Suscribed , Liked , Shared ;)

[msfobfiaow]

LMFAOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHA THE TUBA PART damn this made my day

[sireofzelda]

Poor tuba who has to play that part.

[juancho661]

GO MARCHING BAND!!!

[jdjdhdhdyr]

holy cap those notes are barely possibly even able to hit even for a perfessional! thats like a friggin high G!

[GRonnoc]

what they hell is that tuba part? notes an octave beyond most tuba player's ranges...tubas are lucky to get up to maybe a middle C at absolute highest range, but even that's really hard...you're insane...and they're playing chords ABOVE the trombones, which from an orchestration standpoint makes no sense, plus you never see that much harmony in tuba, it's rare enough to even get MAYBE 5th harmonies in big concert band pieces

[stripedman201]

I wish the tuba was down like 2 octaves....

[bdsaxophone]

the tuba is playing so high it is like the mid-range of an euphonium...witch is an octive higher...

[Tuba408Bass]

I am a Tuba player with over 15 years of playing in my belt. That is merely a trombone part labeled Tuba. or it should be labeled as Tenor Tuba (aka Euphonium/Baritone Horn) I am able to hit those notes, but reaching those partials on a tuba mouthpiece would be too hard. Why i say it is a Trombone part is because music in bass clef that high is usually on trombone/baritones/euphoniums/­bassoons.

[johnsongM16]

@Tuba408Bass I just started this year. i cant even play the first section

[Olilegrand]

What are the instruments you used???? because I don't the last on the bottom (sorry if my English is not perfect: I'm a french speaker)

[billy9056]

I really love the voicing, the high F in the trumpet isn't impossible but challenging, and I have a vendetta for the Picardy Third, especially after such rich music the Picardy Third at the end sounds like a joke.

[Zemplinn]

dude, this trombone part is easy...my highest note ive ever hit would be the bottom E on the treble clef. i've only been playing for 6 years so its reachable for those people willing to actually practice.

[TehPwnzorrr]

I don't see how people think the trombone parts are hard.

[blahdeda3]

omg the trombone tuba! why!? lol great work man sounds awesome

[TehRude]

This makes me wanna get my trombone out and play 1:27 through 1:41 on first trombone part but when i do i fail and makes me feel sad :c

[polypersonalitaic]

The trombone part is definitely playable, although I'm also from a school with a nice music program. And, although I don't technically play tuba, I can play on a tuba what was written. You mostly have to work on building up the range. And no, the tuba part is definitely not practical. But all the chords sound cool.

[missorangebleu]

Super ou tu trouve sa sur quel site

[neversoft78]

damn. i play tuba and i wish i could hit high f above the staff 1st try but thts impossible. im use to pedal notes.

[TehRude]

those notes with like 3 combines notes... thats for three people, just take one od those notes in which you think you can perform.

[MrPokemon493]

How do you get those really high notes at 0:23

[thexsleepwalker]

Regardless of the prior comments, this sounds really awesome! I got goosebumps listening to it.

[ConfederatePride0]

This sounds fantastic on finale, but you should re-write that tuba part much lower, and write that same part for french horn. If you did that, it really would sound amazing in a live ensemble.

[Tuba408Bass]

all of the TBN/Tuba Parts are possible to play. But you would have to be Chuck Norris or some shit. The Trombone part seems somewhat possible. The Tuba part seems not that likely unless you are the principle tubist.

[mike10503]

simply well

[stefanpalen96]

Tuba Playing that High...No Way whach out for some of the rhythms no one can realistically play this.... No matter how good the player.....there is also numerous discreteness... Plus I would seriously rewrite this..The trombone is fine..Also the cello will not play most of those runs correctly...

[UNC3345]

only Chuck Norris could play those Tuba and Trombone parts

[snowedemon]

i dont know of any particular player of tuba who likes to play octaves above the staff...

[Kraekcae]

I never realized how many chords the Viola had...

And B#. That's awesome!

[KanHoshikage]

awesome but trombone part=impossible... same with tuba

[rubix12321]

@KanHoshikage both parts are possible. Easily for the trombone, would take a very decent player on tuba though :p

[Nicrossmen]

Hei man, very nice. Can you send me the file? I'd like to have it. If yes, I'll send you my e-mail address. Tnx

[JrvUnleashedMusic]

Wow, this guy has no concept of the ranges of the instruments he is writing for.

[violinmerchant]

@JrvUnleashedMusic yeah that prick

[Draco6slayer]

@violinmerchant Lol

[thewritingwriterof89]

@violinmerchant In all seriousness, that's like high-horn, trumpet territory lol.

[wahhos7]

@JrvUnleashedMusic yes the tuba part is way too high

[VeryDarren]

@JrvUnleashedMusic you can get their if you practice and stop complaining

[JrvUnleashedMusic]

@VeryDarren Even if you do, it's not going to sound good at all. The Tuba is not meant to play that high.

[mirro379]

Well it does say "violin" merchant.

[whstrompwns]

@JrvUnleashedMusic I am very sure that it is impossible for a tuba to hit a high B five lines above the staff

[dudeaid]

@whstrompwns Not impossible. Not even that hard, really. Just takes a _LOT OF AIR_.

[whstrompwns]

@dudeaid ok post a vid of you playing it. I would very much like to see this

[Ruigekerel]

@JrvUnleashedMusic These notes are quite normal to trombones, a bit high, but the Bolero from Ravel goes up to the D, while this piece does not...

[JrvUnleashedMusic]

@Ruigekerel

Normal for say a 1st Chair Jazz Trombonist harmonizing with trumpets, but not very normal in a band/orchestra setting. It goes up there, but it's very rare, and you'll NEVER see a trombone with melody that high. It's simply not in the instruments practical range and it doesn't sound very good. Also, the tuba should not be nearly that high.

[mrmoo35]

@JrvUnleashedMusic No that's cool, you know he writes a whole song but yeah your cool you ungrateful jerk asshole

[JrvUnleashedMusic]

@mrmoo35 No point in doing it if you're going to do it badly.

[mrmoo35]

@JrvUnleashedMusic There's also no point in dissing it you fat chode

[ZwingertStudios]

@JrvUnleashedMusic GO hate some where else it was an mp3 to midi conversion

[JrvUnleashedMusic]

@ZwingertStudios

LOLno. First of all, FInale Notepad doesn't support mp3 conversions, and when you convert it to a midi, it doesn't make a tuba play two octaves higher than it ever should. Secondly, if you're talking about converting it from .mus to .mp3 by means of 3rd party software, that wouldn't change the octaves of the instruments. It may reduce the sound quality, but it wouldn't go into your program and start changing the notation. That's just ridiculous.

[WBTubakid]

@JrvUnleashedMusic I see absolutely nothing wrong with these ranges. They are all plausible for the instruments that @violinmerchant has used in this arrangement. So please get your facts straight before you open your mouth and embarrass yourself on YouTube trying to make someone else look bad. @violinmerchant is a good arranger and a good friend. He knows his stuff.

[JrvUnleashedMusic]

@WBTubakid

Then you're blind. All of these notes are "plausable" for the ranges, but that doesn't mean it's good writing. Writing that high for tuba, for instance, is just ridiculous and it would sound terrible. violinmerchant himself has admitted this, so please shut the fuck up.

Check my channel if you don't think I know what I'm talking about. I write orchestral music, I think I can judge an 8 instrument midi arrangement.

[WBTubakid]

@JrvUnleashedMusic You're obviously as dense as you look. I am a tuba major and know the range of a tuba. And, depending on which tuba you use, that range is perfect. So learn some manners, take a couple theory classes, maybe orchestration, and get back to me when you aren't a whiny little punk.

[JrvUnleashedMusic]

@WBTubakid

HAHAHAHA.

Find me ONE piece of legitimate music in the standard repertoire that writes for tuba that high. Please, I'm dieing to hear it, Mr. "Tuba Major." You're a fucking idiot if you honestly think that's proper writing for tuba, and being a tuba player doesn't change shit. Are you even in college yet kid? Please.

[WBTubakid]

@JrvUnleashedMusic You're the obvious idiot. I'm a tuba major at the University of Tennessee and I perform on BBb, CC, F, and Eb tuba. Literature IS in that register for the bass tubas. It is rare for the contrabasses, but VM never specified which he's writing for here. And besides, this recording is for "LISTENING PLEASURE," so please, drop a pair and grow up.

[JrvUnleashedMusic]

@WBTubakid

Lol, he's using Finale Notepad. The only tuba the program has is the contrabass. It would be impossible for him to be using any other one. There is no literature, and CERTAINLY no non-solo literature, that writes for a Bb tuba at that range. It just sounds terrible and there is no reason for it. Please take the pole out of your ass.

Listening pleasure, eh? Tubas sound like shit at that range, I don't see how that's pleasurable.

[Benisuber]

@WBTubakid No one but Oystein writes tuba music that goes up to the C above middle C, or anywhere near it. Oystein only does is because he can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Even on an Eb or F tuba that would just be stupid. And why would a tuba be playing in unison with a trombone in the high register of a trombone anyway? Might as well just be another trombone.

[lolloaudi]

mi mandi le parti trascritte per tromboni?

[CruorLacrima]

Freakin awesome!

[wahhos7]

drop the tuba part an octave it way 2 high and im an all- region tuba player I can't even get close to those notes

[Sinooffire]

@wahhos7

those notes aren't at all hard to play

[fr3akdotcom]

Those aren't the regular Final MIDI sounds....What did you use to replace that?

[marktremontirules1]

that last chord did not resolve right.

[MrPokemon493]

I'm going to see Star Wars Live in Concert. I wish they will play your version of it. Your going to be a John Williams. Good work!

[TacoPivotXD]

can u send me the  mus file

[MarioAwSoMeNeSs321]

awsome

[MrPokemon493]

Just......... epic.

[dh27545]

do you have this arraigned for marching band because this is great arraignment!!!!

[jmdunsford]

its kind of sad that you can't see all of the parts.

[Midonir1]

i play the trombone. all i ask for is an easy part !! - cry -

[halo3odstrs]

that sounds like runescape music

[Midonir1]

@halo3odstrs i play runescape.. i just hate it when they change the damn prices!! -sob-

[schilke237]

no tuba player except for nat mcintosh could hit those notes sorry try again on the brass yet nice blend altogether

[vito582]

Are you talking about the 2nd staff? I think thats trombone. the video is just distorted so it looks like tba instead of tbn.

[schilke237]

no enlarge it its tuba not trombone

[em2894]

@vito582 Pause Right at the beginning of the video

[falloutboy7778]

not true there are tubists that can hit that right now im a sophmore at wyoming park highschool and i can cap off at a double F above the staff aka the F above the staff thats 2 notes away by my senior year i should be able to hit triple Bb

[pianino08]

wich pogramm do you use?

its great =)

[violinmerchant]

finale notepad 2008 and hamieNET midi to mp3 converter

[STYXfAn1234]

@violinmerchant how did u know the notes for it?I would like to learn how to play starwars i play flute

[NewEquinoxProduction]

@violinmerchant do you need a converter? I have Finale 2004 there is an option called: Specially save- save as audio file

[badguy66626]

i have a problem with the program, i'm trying to keep three barlines for each layer but it makes four. how can i limit it to only 3? thank you man

[SoullessPyre]

Those notes look ridiculously hard for the trombone.

[violinmerchant]

In fact, I guarantee you, whether they are possible or not, the aesthetic effect of them in a live ensemble would be atrocious. Take it from the writer himself :)

[tacos931s]

@violinmerchant not only are the trombone notes to high but the tuba notes are about an octave higher than they should be

[DrStrangefate]

@violinmerchant

Might I suggest simply copying those same impossible trombone lines to French Horn in F. It would have a superior effect. The early trombone stuff is good though.

[tartanmusician]

There's only one note that I don't think is possible, but other than that all the notes are in your 'basic' range. Basic as in the player isn't rediculously amazing, but it's by no means easy...

[Zangamarth]

@SoullessPyre They are....

[metalmagex]

@SoullessPyre the notes on the Trombone are quite feasible...its the tuba thats wrong

[SoullessPyre]

@metalmagex Well, I never said impossible :P With that being said, some of the ending notes for the trombone look a bit iffy.

I do agree with you that the tuba notes are insane though :P

[Meik101]

@SoullessPyre

Highest notes a C bruh?

[WolfTailz92]

@SoullessPyre

Actually all the trombone notes are possible. I'm not saying I can play it perfect because that high C seems to kick my ass. :P But I'm just saying that they are possible. Of course you need at least 3 people for some of them.... but the tuba part... now that is a different story. D:

[cardscg]

@SoullessPyre I agree as a trombone player...but i personaly feel bad for the Tubas....cause thats just not natural

[egenin]

@cardscg A really good tuba could probably play it o.o;

[StickmenBattles]

@SoullessPyre Yes, they are extremely difficult, but possible none the less. I have a high G (4th line above the staff) in a piece I play.

[DrStrangefate]

@StickmenBattles

4th ledger line is B

3rd line is G

If you're talking Bass Clef.

And in this piece the notes often hang on B's and C's an octave above what is normally required of trombonists.

Unless you plan on playing Ravel's Bolero solo continuously, the sustained extreme range in this arrangement is a bit absurd, and anyone with a little more savvy would simply write those parts for Horn in F since that is essentially the range those notes are written in.

[StickmenBattles]

@DrStrangefate You'r right, it is a B, sorry. I do realise that the notes are... impractical to say the least, but I just felt like pointing out that it was possible

[DrStrangefate]

@StickmenBattles

Yeah I gotcha.

Yeah it's really impractical, but I make the same mistakes using Sibelius when writing for strings, which I am largely unfamiliar with. It's all a matter of taking the time to carefully study the full range of instruments.

Practicality is key.

But it's always nice to see someone continuing the tradition of learning to play and write music. It's very refreshing in times with people worshippiing "musicians" like Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber

[wolverine843]

@SoullessPyre as a trombone player i can tell you the notes are possible but highly unlikely and i can play up to a double d comfortably but the double e and f sound really screechy but ive heard some pros play that high

[vespertinne]

Righteous.

[rikudude95]

This is perfect. Nuff' said.

[Phunlet]

Perfect Arrangement

[derhalt1990]

I guess it would be nice, if it were played by an usual orchestra.... but this MIDI-sound just creeps me out!!

[violinmerchant]

ha, I guess I'll look into downloading a full orchestra! XD

[Midonir1]

@derhalt1990 The MIDI sound is perfect.. ths is a really good song :D

[bktrmbone90]

Sounds so much like Final Fantasy 7

[tenorbrasswindplayer]

This is a great arrangement, it reminds me of the music from Dark Forces

Being a trombone/sometimes euphonium player, I appreciate the beginning, though while trombones can hit those notes it would take a fantastic tuba player to play them.

[UpsetGoldfish]

This MIDI sounds very alike to the style of music in the old Final Fantasies. I'm talking PS 1 and older. Very nice though.

[nater308]

stewkingjr, it's not a tuba. it's string bass

[MultiRetroGamer]

awesome!!!!

[anakin2816]

yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[anakin2816]

i love it

[UAVPredator]

Yeah, most tuba players can't do that screamer octave stuff, but it's really fun when you get it worked out.  I can do it, Yay!

[velocifossa]

midi files never get the right instruments the trombone part at 1:27 is actually french horns

[violinmerchant]

err...you know I wrote this, right?

[holymadgod]

What he was saying that the recording of the trombone was actually a french horn recording being used as the trombone voice. Can't say whether or not he is correct though.

[stewkingjr]

Nice, but few tuba players can play that high, even with a trombone mouthpiece. Try bringing it down a few octaves until the notes hang around the bottom of the staff more or less, absolutely none should go off the top.

[demikillers1]

i liked it!

[stewkingjr]

Nice, but few tuba players can play that high, even with a trombone mouthpiece. Try bringing it down a few octaves until the notes hang around the bottom of the staff more or less, absolutely none should go off the top.

[m4owns987]

the sickest part is from 1:26 to 1:41

[mgoblue36]

sounds pretty epic

[planeguy5]

How were you able to upload this? Did you just record it with your camera, or did you convert the file type? If so, which program did you use to convert it? Thanks!

BTW, this sounds really cool.

[Naeneko77Inikina]

HyperCam. Nifty program.

[violinmerchant]

Just got Camstudio a few weeks ago, its even better

[nostradamusguy]

Starting at about 1:27 and the rest of that page, do you realize how high of a part that is for tuba? The purpose of a tuba is to have a bass voice, not to try to mimic a trombone... Try writing it down maybe even two octaves, because one is still a bit high, but quite manageable.

[violinmerchant]

I was just trying to make it sound good. Some of my newer stuffs a bit more believable, but MIDI synthesizers don't live by the logic of reality, so, with my confidence in the fact that no human being on youtube is going to play my music anyways, I just let them do whatever.

[Mithril97]

I agree. Plus that, it would technically be a slitherhorn or something, since it's being played in the... *gasp* Star Wars universe?!

[pedrocortereal]

OHHHH MY GOD SOUNDS INTERESTING THE ENDING IN A MAJOR CHORD xD

[CruorLacrima]

Nice arrangement. good bone parts XD Boners rock!

[violinmerchant]

good thing the part isn't too hard...

[afroNile]

the bones are sweet i would know, I play

[ForcebladerX]

i play trombone the trombones sound kinda faded from all the other instruments in some parts

[atoman88]

can u upload the notation file so i can print out the sheet music?

[violinmerchant]

I've posted a link to the MIDI file in the description, which can be imported into Finale Notepad. If you really need the .MUS file, I'll have to email it though, because I'm not registered on any file sharing sites. If that's the road you want to take, PM me and I'd be more than happy to send it.

[Griego4325]

That tuba part goes way up into the stratosphere lol

[violinmerchant]

lol indeed, I have no clue what I was smoking when I wrote the tuba part.

[kersten5191]

wow. what a boring violin part. (i play violin) :)

[violinmerchant]

I dunno, I kind of thought the middle would be a bit difficult, but I'm a poser who doesn't play instruments. :P

[Jsun366]

Wow, I never knew unrealistic Finale Notepad playback sounds

[violinmerchant]

this isn't finale notepad playback

[wiimanking]

nice vid!!

[swordmagyk]

What version of finale notepad is that cuz it sounds beter than my crappy version (Finale Notepad 2003)

[violinmerchant]

I'm using Finale Notepad 2008, but the audiio is from a different source. Go to the site in the description above and find the MIDI/Mp3 converter. Choose your settings and you can turn your exported MIDI file into an mpeg

[craze231]

It has to do with the midi voices on your motherboard or soundcard. not finale.

[violinmerchant]

This isn't playback with Microsoft GS Wavesynth. I literally took the MIDI code file and converted it to an audio file online. The playback for that file should be the same on anyone's computer. Finale has its own MIDI synthesizer though, I think its called SmartMusic SoftSynth

[craze231]

Great idea, doing that. Softsynth is what Finale uses as default midi out, so that's what you would hear if you saved something as a midi and converted it to audio, or played it back in notepad. It's been a while since i've used the 2003 version of notepad but if i'm not mistaken, it didn't come with those smartmusic softsynth voices. It just used whatever midi you had on your computer. I was just trying to clear that up for user swordmagyk. I'f i'm wrong, feel free to point and laugh. lol

[craze231]

for your version, that is.

2009 sounds much better

[bigmoe93]

a tuba can go that high?! lol i love how u put the song together tho tho

[violinmerchant]

lol, I never trouble myself to learn instrument ranges. XD

[Sergethetuba]

theoretically, brass instruments don't have any range 'caps'

[Th3BL4ckKn1ght]

wow ridiculous trombone part @ 1:35. very nice though.(i play trombone)

[skaterpunktop3]

eh, its not that high, i play trombone myself as a freshman in highschool, but i think that part was really french horns in the actual song