if vaccines are linked to autism, i got it, then humanity is going to get screwed. someone needs to retaliate before this conspiracy occurs. there is a vaccination program going in my school and i refuse to take it. if anyone agrees please reply.
@AlienScientist321 It's been years since my last "vaccination", and I've managed perfectly well with just natural health so far. Heck, I can't even remember the last time I was ill! Personally, I would refuse the jabs and stick with natural remedies which are evidently hundreds of times more effective and safer; but I suggest that you do some research yourself and make your own mind up.
What is actually a real study? This video featured? Yes, it is a real study, but it has absolutely nothing to do with vaccines. I've already explained at length why it has nothing to do with vaccines.
If you were paying attention to the conversation, you would notice that gonefishin2009 had posted links to videos that contain nothing more than anecdotes from various people, which is what I was commenting on.
If the government tried to regulate it to be healthy, they'd get sued by the FDA because the pharmasudical companies pay the doctors to write the prescriptions to the people that have the illnesses. If the illnesses are done away with, then the prescriptions don't get written and the pharmaseudical companies don't make money and the FDA doesn't get any money....HELLO PEOPLE--wake up!
Mercury poisoning symptoms and Autistic behavior are exactly the same. This research took me 10 minutes...and it was not funded by any pharmaceutic company!
They did NOT removed it!!! Mercury (Thimerosal) is STILL in vaccines like the hepatitis-vaccines, H1N1-vaccines, Flu-vaccine, Thetanus-vaccine etc.... Your such a Liar! You obviously had too many vaccines!
Sorry I didn't think the first one posted and then I tried to delete it b/c I don't mean to sound harsh with all caps. I understand both sides, truly. But when you read the facts, and see how they are covered up, and the lack of studies, along with the increase in childhood diseases along with the increase in vaccines, you have to have NO COMMON SENSE to deny it.
There IS mercury in NEW childhood vaccines like the Hep B & trust me they push it on you like the rest. The thimerasol hasn't been taken out at all in any 3rd world countries and that proves these people making them don't do anything until people force them to, their interests are not in our childrens' health. I'm a mother of 2 on the spectrum. I had my head in the sand about vaccines too, until my second reacted the day of. Then I made the connection, too late unfortunately.
@bragi20 " too late unfortunately" yeah, now your children will live meaningless lives without making friends or any kind of important relationships, they wont get married have kids or anything, they are practically zombies.
@rbond THEY ARE STILL IN NEW CHILDHOOD VACCINES SUCH AS THE HEP B/NEW ONES THEY MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE ARE MAND/JUST LIKE THE REST. READ, READ THE CDC'S OWN LIST OF INGREDIENTS. YOU'RE THE MORON.THERE"S ALUMINUM, FORMALDEHYDE, THE LIST OF POISONS GOES ON. MY PED PUSHED THE h1N1 ON MY 3 YR OLD WITH AUTISM. HE REGRESSED. PPL LIKE YOU WHO DON'T KNOW THE FACTS AND PREACH TO US WHO HAVE DONE HOURS OR RESEARCH AND SEEN WITH OUR OWN EYES-PISS ME OFF
I heard it was your ability to detox from (all) metals at the moment of exposure, whether you will be injured at that point. It will still continue to accumulate in the body. "If you don't develop autistic spectrum disorder now, you can expect from the accumulation in your lifetime, to develop Alzheimer's, at the minimum." Get a chelation preparation using it periodically, because you are being constantly exposed to these metals in daily life.
..so tell me who rules this dark world then...the truth fortunately doesnt only stop with MERCURY POISINING...what about OUR SOULS TOO...great video and thanks again..peace...
Well, if you ingest chlorine straight... you die. Breathe chlorine gas, you die. Yet everyone ingests table salt (NaCl) every day. Also pure sodium explodes if thrown into water.
How can this be?
Well, turns out molecular formula is important! Thiomersal, much like table salt, is chemically nothing like the elemental form of one of its atomic constituents.
@rlbond This is false. The swine flu vaccine, Pandremix, did contain mercury and Norway (population: 4.5 million) bought 9 million shots of this vaccine in 2009.
@outwrangle Yes. A finnish study concludes that there is a link between the registered increase in narcolepsi between kids, and the mass vaccination with Pandremix. The risk increased by 900%. 300 people in Norway got severely sick after the shot. (spontanious abortions, narcolepsi, nerves paralyzing, allergy shock.)
@outwrangle Good odds? Is the vaccine effective, or does it even work at all? Did they even prove that the vaccine was safe? No. Not as I'm aware of. I guess I had the best odds, as I haven't heard of any one getting chronic disease from NOT taking the vaccine... and your numbers are totally off. The bought two shots for each citizen. Population is 4.5 million, and the government worked very hard to persuade people to take the vaccine. Not too many did. They had to destroy millions of vaccines.
@rlbond Actually, vaccines still do contain thimerisol, just some don't, but there's no way to really tell which ones. Furthermore mercury is air-born, i suggest visiting the EPA website on it.
@rlbond@rlbond the CDC admits trace amounts CAN be found in flu vaccines/the 'unroutine' childhood vaccines. Such as the new ones they bust out every year. Youtube Vaccines do cause autism-watch the 3rd video w/congressman burton.
@bragi20 Most children don't get those vaccines. How can you say vaccines cause autism in children if the only vaccines that have even a trace amount of mercury, aren't even given to kids?
@rlbond Thimerosal is still used in Flu Vacc's its been taken out of pediatric vaccs... it has not been removed fully... Know before you speak " moron"
Mercury (Thimerosal) isSTILL in vaccines like the hepatitis-vaccines, H1N1-vaccines, Flu-vaccine, Thetanus-vaccine etc.... Your such a Liar! You obviously had too many vaccines!
Read the ingredients list next time you get a vaccine you will see thimerosal (MERCURY) Its in there...its just not called mercury its called thimerosal!!
There are special formulas of vaccines approved for pediatric use that are thimerosal free. Simply because one formulation of a vaccines contains thimerosal does not mean that they ALL contain thimerosal. The thimerosal free formulas have been in use for pediatrics for almost 10 years now, and case rates of Autism have not fallen. They've actually risen, thus suggesting that the thimerosal was not the cause.
@StumpyOuch Having a thimerisol free vaccine does not make the vaccines safe. They are still full of cells from aborted human fetuses, pigs, sheep, monkey kidney cells, calf skin cells and in some cases diseases like HIV and cancer have been in there too.
Google vaccines ingredients, and watch this video. /watch?v=edikv0zbAlU
Vaccines are not for me or my family, but to each their own.
Using such fearmongering tactics to scare people away from life saving vaccines is disgusting.
I'm posting a link to a site that has an excellent article that address your concerns about fetus and cell tissue. It does a much better job of pointing out the flaws in your argument than I could here.
I am one who actually took the time to read the risks/ benefits and listen to both sides of the argument and based my decision on my best educated judgement. Anyone who wishes to vaccinate themselves or their children should research BOTH sides of the issues and make their own decision. As I stated vaccines are not for me or my family, why is that such an issue for you? The TRUTH is what should scare people. Vaccines are not safe and you need to educate before you vaccinate.
@StumpyOuch BTW I see your only mission on youtube is to troll vaccine video's and force your opinions on the world. Somehow you personify the exact thing you criticize in others.
Have a nice life and have fun trolling the vaccine videos. I understand this is probably your great work in life so I wont take it from you. People are smart enough to see through youtube trolls like yourself.
I see that you completely ignored the information I posted, simply going off on personal attacks while simultaneously neglecting to provide any sort of evidence that supports your assertations that vaccinations are dangerous. Why am I not surprised?
@StumpyOuch Yeah, sure accuse me of ad hominem attacks and avoiding your points, when its YOU who have failed to address the truth about vaccines...relying on a site run by the same people who run also run a site called the skeptics guide to the universe. Please....You believe what you wish. Its your right in this country to be stupid, I am not going to take that from you either. Keep up the good fight, and trolling youtube vaccine and Ron Paul videos. You are clearly on the path you deserve.
What "truth" specifically are you interested in? I gave you a link to the FDA which lists the ingredients for specific vaccines, which you ignored. The link I gave you to sciencebasedmedicine lists several sources that supports their arguments, which you ignored.
Yet again, you've failed to supply any sort of evidence that supports you.
Why do I have the feeling you're going to claim that the FDA/CDC are all lying and then start on about NWO or some other conspiracy junk?
@StumpyOuch Take your psychotropic med's drink your fluoridated water, eat your GMO food, take your vaccinations, keep informed by your mainstream media and go back to sleep. The world is good, you are safe being protected by your all loving government. There are no conspiracies Life is good.
@StumpyOuch Just watch the video and leave politics out of the scenario. It is a simple FACT that mercury is dangerous. [Nicotine is a poison. Fluoride is a poison. Chlorine is a poison.]
The answer to your query though is this: it ceases to be a conspiracy when you establish a motive of money... then it simply becomes a matter of who stands to gain the most. I do not think the chemical companies and weapons makers are "evil" they just think of clever ways to get their waste sold. This happens.
I have watched this video and it has absolutely nothing to do with mercury in vaccines.
For example, in this video, they're placing an amount of mercury GREATER than that found in a vaccine on a single neuron. So basically it takes more than one vaccine that contains mercury to kill on neuron.
Thankfully, vaccines are not administered directly onto brain neurons, and you have more than one neuron. You have about 100 billion.
@StumpyOuch For most people yes, but you are forgeting a few things: Firstly, it's bio-acumulitive. Secondly, most kids get dozens of vaccines before they get to high school. Thirdly, some people are hyper-sensitive and lastly - there are other things in vaccines like alluminium.
I'm sorry but the vast majority of studies conducted these days are funded directly or indirectly by the drug companies - that represents a huge conflict of interest, and is not a system designed to discover the truth.
@cojanti That's "accumulative," sunshine. Normally nitpicking grammar online is a rotten habit, but c'mon, we're discussing science here. You are not exactly persuading us of your expertise if you can't even spell the terms your arguments stand upon. You can't even spell "aluminum," but you expect us to believe you've read enough biochemistry to know what you're talking about?!
@wheelofmasks Yes - we are discussing science, not the English language. I was in a hurry - I made mistakes... Perhaps that's what the FDA will say when they finally conclude that fast-tracking vaccines was not the best tactic for the health of the public.
Ethylmercury, the type of mercury found in vaccines, does not bio-accumulate. It clears the system within 10 days, I believe. Methylmercury, the type of mercury found in foods/water does bio-accumulate. Also, vaccines approved for pediatric use do not contain mercury. There are mercury free formulations of every vaccine available save japanese enceph.
Aluminum is the most abundant metallic element on earth. It's in food and water you consume daily. You're exposed to far more of it in daily life than you would ever get from a vaccine. And yes, your body does absorb it through ingestion, and no vaccines are not administered "directly into the bloodstream!!"
It's amazing that as much as "Big pharma" is bad mouthed, no one seems to think that one pharmaceutical company wouldn't point out of a competitor's vaccines was causing damage.
Pharmaceutical companies would love to be able to take business away from competitors by showing that their product was safer/better than a competitor. Only conspiracy nuts would think that they wouldn't.
Perhaps you should read something other than antivaccine websites.
Some basic science you should look into:
Toxicity is dose related. Really, this seems to be the biggest hurdle antivaxers face in understanding how vaccines work. It really seems to be beyond understanding for them.
@StumpyOuch It's my understanding that ethyl mercury is around 5 times less toxic than methyl mercury. It crosses the blood brain barrier less easily, & has a slightly shorter half life in the body. It is still considered a neurotoxin.
It has been reported that children can get a dose of mercury 30 - 60 times the safe level as recommended by the EPA in one vaccine visit to the doctors.
At best the evidence is patchy and incomplete. The unknown is dangerous when dealing with anything mandatory
The EPA level that you're using is for methylmercury in drinking water, which has absolutely nothing to do with ethylmercury in vaccines.
And again, vaccines licensed and approved for pediatric use do not contain mercury in either form.
Who do you think should be conducting tests and studies on this? You don't trust info that comes from pharma companies or the government. Whose studies would you trust?
@StumpyOuch You ask me who I would trust to research these things properly? My answer would be anyone who's profit is the same regardles of results.
Anyone who stands to gain if the results lean in any particular direction cannot be trusted. It's not conspiracy, it's basic business sense. For pharma, research is an investment, and they want it to pay off.
Having ex-pharma CEOs running the FDA is unacceptable. As is bypassing proper testing in order to fast track a vaccine.
@StumpyOuch I don't have anyone in mind, because I'm not sure they exist. Or if they do, they are so small that I have not heard of them. I think the FDA could be this organisation, if all outside interest were firewalled off.
It's a very serious question for the entire medical industry, and one they must deal with soon because people are loosing faith in the system.
I would be happy with anything which put people first and profits second - and that also goes for government.
Then why are you criticizing "Big Pharma" for no one else doing studies? How is that their fault? The same with the government.
Criticizing vaccines, which have prevented untold numbers of deaths and illness, simply because they're not perfect (nothing in life is, remember) or because people are compensated for their work in making them, is absolutely idiotic.
@StumpyOuch Another consideration is efficacy. These vaccines have not been independantly verified to be effective. At the very least the drug companies are profiteering from false hope and placebo, and at the most.... Well, you just try talking to mothers who lost their children after seizures hours after their vaccinations.
Either way, my viewpoint is that there has not been enough independent research to warrant the mandatory status of vaccines.
Efficacy of vaccines can clearly be seen after the introduction of the vaccines. Or do you think it's a coincidence that rates of diseases drop after a vaccine has been introduced?
And no, it can't all be attributed to improved sanitation and nutrition. Vaccines have been introduced in the past 20 years where the disease rates have fallen drastically after their introduction, and without any sort of leap in sanitation or nutrition.
Not to mention the reduction of diseases in underdeveloped countries after a vaccine has been introduced. These countries STILL have poor sanitation and nutrition, but cases of diseases have still fallen.
I'll never understand why anti-vaxers criticize "Big Pharma" and the government for no one else doing studies.
@StumpyOuch Through proper regulation and laws against corruption, the government could design a system which created a far healthier happier country. Modern science is incredible and our potential amazing. But the current system seeks monopoly and control, and stiffles human development in every field whilst rewarding a few heavily.
We are natural problem solvers, but at the moment we are obsesses with owning the solution and creating the problem.
We already have laws and regulations. What do you think "proper" regulations and laws would be, exactly? No matter what they are, you'll still have a segment of the population insisting that it's corrupt or a conspiracy or whatever.
You think former employees of pharmaceutical companies shouldn't be involved in the FDA, but really, who are you going to hire? It's a very small and specialized industry, you can't hire anyone off the street to do the job.
I'll also point out that to create a healthier and happier country you would have to change the lifestyles of almost the entire nation.
I'm all for promoting healthier lifestyles, better nutrition, more exercise, no smoking, etc.... but you're talking about human nature. The government or "big Pharma" can't force people to get off their couch or to put the fried chicken away, and criticizing them for the population being unhealthy is simply neglecting personal responsibility.
@StumpyOuch Now we're getting to the good stuff! I agree-diet & nutrition is vitally important. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
But - human nature is going for the red candy bars because our brain is telling us it's ripe fruit - or over eating when we have fructose because our body tells us it's harvest time and winters coming.
The govt have power to make changes.
Fresh produce should not be more expensive than a big mac meal, so stop subsidising the corn industry!
A Big Mac Meal here costs around $5-$6. I can buy several meals worth of fresh produce for that. Stir fry veggies are cheap: carrots, broccoli, onions, bell peppers. In season, some nice cucumbers and tomatoes for a salad.
Human nature is to go with what tastes good and is easy. Hence fast food and fats and sugar. I don't care too much for a nanny state. Gov should provide basic nutritional education and then personal responsibility should kick in.
@StumpyOuch I'm talking about GMO free, pesticide free food. You may say that's no concern, but it wasn't that long ago DDT was approved as safe and sprayed on everything.
I think the govt would have no trouble in promoting safe natural food and educating people if they wanted to.
Just look what happened with smoking - doctors used to prescribe it for stress! I hope the same thing will happen to the medical and food industry - informed choice = life before profits.
@StumpyOuch What is extreme is the gulf between organic food & the modern day diet. Modified, sprayed ,processed beyond recognition.
People think organic is just 1 end of the spectrum -but we forget it was the only option for thousands of years throughout our evolution.
Sure.modern agriculture is amazing in many respects, but it is profit which is driving it - not human health - and that's driving it into some pretty dark places in my opinion - just as in healthcare.
@StumpyOuch I will add that it's not just down to the govt - people do have to take responsibilty for their own health. But in order to take responsibiity they need to be well informed. Eg - 'You're fillings have mercury in them', 'You're water is treated with flouride', 'aspartame breaks down into formaldehyde' - etc etc.
When people are well informed they are able to make better decisions. GMO food requires labeling by law in the EU, and as a result it is hardly consumed.
I would prefer that people are taught basic science and nutrition.
For example, that toxicity is dose related. This seems to be impossible for some people to understand.
Rationality and logic along with science are things that are sorely needed to be focused on.
For example, people shouldn't be afraid of a substance simply because it's there. They need to understand that the AMOUNT of the substance is what causes concern. Formaldehyde is produced naturally by your body.
Mercury occurs naturally in food and water. As does aluminum.
Unfortunately, uneducated people tend to be hysterical and over reactionary because these things sound scary.
If they understood simple concepts such as toxicity being doseage related, they would not be so alarmed at such trivial things.
I would also prefer that everyone who speaks English as their first language learn the difference between "your" and "you're". It's a major indicator of a poor education.
@StumpyOuch The majority of people receive up to 38 vaccinations before the age of one-and-a-half years. For babies especially, since their immune systems are young and under-developed, that is over-dosing - not just with mercury, but a plethora of other toxins typically used in vaccines. So of course this stuff is scary!
Seeing as how US pediatric vaccines haven't contained mercury for almost 10 years now, your point is a bit moot.
Yet again, toxicity is dose related. The amount of "toxins" found in vaccines (do you even know what "toxins" you're talking about, other than mercury?) are NOT large enough to cause problems, even for babies.
Do you even have a clue as to the amount of "toxins" found in a vaccine, especially in comparison to exposure from every day life?
Now, before you respond with "but vaccines are injected directly into the bloodstream!!!" I'll clue you into the little fact that no vaccine is given intravenously (which means directly into the bloodstream). Vaccines are given intramuscular, subcutaneous, nasal spray or oral drops.
And your digestive system does NOT block out the "toxins" that people are exposed to via ingestion. People are exposed to much larger amounts of toxins every day than what they're exposed to from a vax
And why exactly do you think because something is in an injection it is inherently more dangerous?
Please read my comments below in regards to "injected directly into the bloodstream!!!" nonsense and how your digestive system is designed to absorb what you eat.
And your body deals with "toxins" the same way once it's in the bloodstream. It doesn't care how it got there.
@Gik1618 Oh, and I'm not sure what schedule you're looking at for vaccinations, but the number is closer to 25 for 1.5 year olds: 3 doses hep B 3 doses rotavirus 4 doses DTaP 4 doses Hib 4 doses PCV 3 doses Polio 1 dose MMR 1 dose varicella 1 flu dose 1-2 doses Hep A Where exactly are you getting 38? I do seriously question your sources on the matter.
@StumpyOuch Pharmaceutical companies would never act as whistle blowers on each other because they know it would come back to bite them.
Just look at Vioxx. Merck's profits suffered initially, but now a whole range of NSAIDS are under question and other companies profits are falling. No CEO of another company would ever have ordered an investigation into vioxx.
If they were so sure of their products, they wouldn't be the number one lobbyists in Washington.
@StumpyOuch The Institute of Medicine recently (Aug 2011) conducted a study into 8 common vaccines, & in more than 100 of the most common adverse side effects like seizure and autism, they could not conclude either way. This is the most in depth, independent, up-to-date research on vaccines, and they say 'we don't know'. There may be safer ingredients out there like organic forms of mercury, but right now they are not considered safe and are compulsary. This to me is shocking.
Yes, it is a FACT that those substances are dangerous. It's also a FACT that the AMOUNT of those substances are what make them dangerous, and the AMOUNTS of those substances found in vaccines are not great enough to be dangerous.
ANYTHING can be dangerous, in high enough quantities.
Toxicity is dose related. - go learn some more about that fact.
@StumpyOuch Not ALL vaccines have mercury, just a handful of them. You have to read a book like "Teh Vaccine Book" to get a good simplified list of ingredients. Most manufacturers have switched to Aluminum (awesome... rolls eyes) and monkey brains (brilliant... prions anyone?)
But yeah... at least MOST of the vaccines are mercury free. I mean why demand they update their EXPENSIVE factories, we're just talking about children here.
I don't need the book to get the lit of ingredients, they come in the package insert of every vaccines, or I can look it up online for each specific vaccine.
Mercury and aluminum are not interchangeable for vaccines. They're used for completely different purposes.
To get rid of vaccines, vaccine makers simply make single dose formulations, because mercury was used to prevent bacterial growth in multi use vials.
@omglulz1234 Thimerosal is mercury. Mercury destroys brain cells. Thimerosal is in vaccines in concentrations that are toxic, especially for infants and children.
1. The amount of thimerosal in vaccines that contain it are NOT at toxic levels. Apparently you STILL don't understand what toxicity is or how it's determined. I'm afraid that you're not mentally capable of understanding this concept
2. Vaccines approved for pediatric use in the US do not contain thimerosal. There are specific formulations that are thimerosal free. Simply because one vaccine may contain it does not mean they all do.
Thats your opinion, not fact. Vaccines also contain squalene which is linked to many autoimmune disorders including gulf war syndrome and guillain barre.
No, it is not my opinion. It is a fact. Which vaccines in the US contain squalene? Name me just one. The brand name of the vaccine, please.
Show where you're getting information that the amount of mercury in vaccines is a toxic dose. Scientific evidence, mind you. Not some antivaccine site that merely claims it is.
w ww*fda*gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228- info on mercury toxicity
Simply because I know you're not going to go to all the trouble of actually reading any information I post, I'll insert the relevant material here for anyone wants to see it:
"Several cases of acute mercury poisoning from thimerosal-containing products were found in the medical literature with total doses of thimerosal ranging from approximately 3 mg/kg to several hundred mg/kg."
That's 3mg/kg of thimerosal. Vaccines that contain thimerosal is around 25 MICROGRAMS. 1,000 micrograms =1 mg.
@StumpyOuch It does not justify injecting it into people's bodies even if it's a supposedly low dose. In fact, that's besides the point: symptoms associated with mercury poisoning still occur days following vaccinations, and there are myriad reported cases.
Do you have a problem with nasal spray vaccines or oral drop vaccines, or are you merely objecting to vaccine via injections?
What symptoms associated with mercury poisoning? Where are you getting your information? Do you even know what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are, or are you simply repeating what you've heard from antivax sites?
MF59 adjuvanted vacines like Fluad which health Canada approved for use contain squalene. The pandemic H1N1 Vaccines that were given and made my GlaxosmithKlien adjuvented with AS03 contain squalene... I mean if you want to believe the world is flat its your choice... but the fact is its round and Vaccines arent something I would put inside myself nor would I tell others to do so without knowing what the hell they are getting stuck with. It's Your life do what you wish partner.
The H1N1 vaccines manufactured by glaxossmithklein with As03 was solely for European markets, not the US.
I'd also like to point out that alt. health gurus routinely suggest people use shark liver oil, which is comprised mostly of squalene, to improve their immune systems.
Where is your information that it is harmful in the amounts found in any vaccines?
@StumpyOuch Look... you are passionate about your beliefs to the point of being cultish. You have all the info you need, Im not going to sit here and spoon feed you. I dont have the time nor desire. If you have any interest in learning I've already told you what to go and look for. If not then quit polluting this video with your comments.
You're the one that's trying to persuade people to leave their children unprotected against deadly diseases based solely on ignorance and paranoia.
If you'll notice, all I've done is ask for evidence for what you claim. It's not my fault you're not capable of giving that evidence.
Do you notice how I can give specific information to support what I say? Why are you unable to do the same? All you're capable of doing is making wild accusations.
It's amazing that you seem to have the time and desire to repeat incorrect material that has been pointed out to you several times before. You have the time and desire to make wild claims about how these things are dangerous to people. But you don't have the time to post a link that supports your claim?
Posting any information to support your claim would take less time than insisting that you don't have the time to do so.
Shut the fuck up. My niece was damaged from Vaccines. /watch?v=URHhyP4lmQ4 or watch?v=jUYMXK9cPMA or watch?v=lXKjX78iS7o or watch?v=hPBK4vUVyxE or watch?v=C1ydcdDnzSs
or watch?v=Kcpoqo_MNis or watch?v=gM117iPkUjc or watch?v=8xc4yBNV-U0
Yet again, nothing but emotional pleas and insults.
I'm not swayed by those. Why is it that anti vaxers are never able to give any actual evidence to support what they say? Such evidence would do much more to advance your agenda than running around insulting people and posting youtube videos of nothing but anecdotal evidence.
If you look at the REAL research, this type of mercury is used for dental fillings which is a completely different type of mercury used for the autism vaccination. This type of mercury was shown to do damage in alzheimers patients which is a totally different part of the brain than what autism is. Google the researchers names and you will be able to read the actual results.
Eugenics! What's the most effective way for the elites to control, debilitate, and kill whole populations covertly? Through a giant, heavily marketed vaccine program, and but suppressing and discrediting any evidence that might expose and endanger that agenda.
@TheJovanist Great point... Many people need to familiarize themselves with a philosophy called "Eugenics"... Its the same ideology perpetrated by the Nazi's and its the same ideology propagated by the modern ruling elitists who own and operate the government through (for hire) politicians. Wake-up sheeple! The ruling class want you and your offspring dead... whether thats through poisonous vaccines, fluoridated water, GMO foods, artificial sweetner, chem trails, or some fabricated disease.
Well, since the newscasters and newspapers are saying its false, I guess we have nothing to worry about right? Whose for swordfish streaks and tap water anyone??? I have seen and heard from reputable sources that mercury is a danger, now someone from the times chimes in and says its all false and inaccurate. I'm sorry, but I'm not jumping on any bandwagon that's reversing this theory anytime soon without something solid to back it up besides someone from the times.
@avenqer - Mercury is a toxin. That is not being questioned. But there is no link between mercury in vaccines or lack of mercury in vaccines and autism. None. Zero. Nothing.
Declaring the FDA and the science community to be lying, even about whether or not there is mercury in vaccines is ridiculous.
@ellenjhunt No evidence from the "expert" medical community.. but independent studies have linked mercury toxicity to autism. The amount of "recommended" vaccines for young children has more than tripled in the last 30 years... and so has child autism. Guillane-Barre syndrone is a neurological disorder directly linked to mercury toxicity and funny how cases flair up every flu season. And I suppose you believe the FDA is open and honest just like the rest of our bought and paid for government. HA
Actually there are plenty of studies showing a potential link. "Declaring the FDA and the science community to be lying, even about whether or not there is mercury in vaccines is ridiculous." That's one of the most laughable statements i've heard in sometime. The FDA and CDC are ultra corrupt! They are on the payrolls of vaccine makers! Either you're totally living in a fantasy, or you're on their payroll too!
@jj128 "Either you're totally living in a fantasy, or you're on their payroll too!"
I'm sorry, but look at yourself. That is EXACTLY the language of a classic kook. "If you don't agree with my theory, you must be BRAINWASHED! BRAINWAAAASHED! In fact, you're probably ALL hired by the THRIVING MERCURY INDUSTRY! Get out of my brain!"
Pffft. The scientific truth does not rely on which way money flows, and logic does not bend to insults.
@cojanti Yes. Thank you for patronizing me. Given that what you said has NOTHING to do with whether the truth or untruth of a scientific fact is dependent on the funding of who discovered it, I feel that I can walk away from this discussion feeling a little more confident that you are a kook and well-worth ignoring. Now, before I go ahead and do that walking, would you like to say something relevant, or do you have another thought-terminating cliche to parrot like the conspiracy ninny you are?
@wheelofmasks Patronizing you was never my intention-I'm sorry if I caused offense. I believe the mention of the FDA is entirely relevant to finding the truth, given most of their research is funded by the drug companies.
This conflict of interests has weakened the trust in our entire medical system & has given us such gifts as aspartame, vioxx and countless other dangerous & untested chemicals which continue to cause pain & suffering to many. Call it what you will, I call it common sense.
We have known for some time now that the study purporting that vaccines cause autism was flawed and wrong. But now there is evidence that the study was actually fraudulent, and involved the falsification of data. I wonder how many children have died or will die because of people believing this nonsense and refusing to vaccinate their children against diseases?
@ibcnunabit You should get your information from sources not on the payroll! Try watching less tv and reading more studies (preferably ones not directly or indirectly funded by vaccine makers).
1. False. Thimerosol (the only mercury compound) is only present in 4 out of 30 pediatric vaccine. All pediatric vaccine types are available from multiple manufacturers without thimerosal. Google FDA thimerosal in vaccines
2. Thimerosal toxicity is low. Video shows a different mercury. Google thimerosal toxicity FDA.
3. Autism not equal mercury poisoning. Best article I know is from mouse model of autism at Caltech. Google: Maternal Immune Activation Alters Fetal Brain Development
-Thimerosal remains in all vaccines in the vaccine supply. There are vaccines that have expiration's reaching beyond 2012. No vaccine manufacturer has pulled their thimerosal-containing supply from warehouse shelves. These vaccines will continue to be used on the unknowing public.
--This video does show the form of Mercury that is used in dental work. However, the form of mercury that makes thimerosal is far more toxic.Googling FDA will not yield unbiased results. Same with CDC or APA.
@Hope4Brade No. Out of the 30 vaccines approved normally given to children, 16 NEVER contained thimerosal. Of the remaining 14, 3 removed thimerosal 10 years ago or more. The others removed by 2007. The shelf life of remaining vaccines was 3 years. So they are removed. Google "fda thimerosal in vaccines"
@ellenjhunt Actually if you Google FDA CDC or APA you are asking to be lied to about mercury, vaccines, and Autism. Those are the exact same organizations that will be held liable if they ever admit that vaccines CAUSE Autism. So please do not Google FDA and expect the truth, in fact do not Google anything and expect to be told the truth. Read the medical journals, follow up on what personal interests lie with the ppl defending vaccines and educate yourself on these matters. Google is not God.
@ellenjhunt Induction of metallothionein in mouse cerebellum and cerebrum with low-dose thimerosal injection, Cell Biology and Toxicology, 0742-2091 (Print) 1573-6822 (Online), 9 April 2009). 'As a result of the present findings, in combination with the brain pathology observed in patients diagnosed with autism, the present study helps to support the possible biological plausibility for how low-dose exposure to mercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines may be associated with autism'
@ellenjhunt Yeah, get your information from the FDA...they aren't corrupt!!! LOL! 1) Mercury is still in the multi‐dose flu vaccines throughout the world. Trace amounts remain in several other vaccines(along with aluminum, formaldehyde, and a myriad of other toxic substances). 2) "Lasting neuropathological changes in rat brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal." Just one of many studies (not funded by vaccine makers).
@ellenjhunt 3) "Autism not equal mercury poisoning". Interesting how the symptoms of autism spectrum disorder are almost identical to mercury poisoning. Oh just a coincidence I'm sure.
@panta22 You do have a point. I believe that there are some ppl born with a form of Autism. I also KNOW that others, like my son are not born with any disabilities and around 17 months they become Autistic. I believe that the difference is Autism that ppl present at birth is genetic in some way and Autism that presents later in life is directly caused from vaccines and Thimerosal. The reason there is a 5-1 boy VS girl ratio, is because Mercury binds to testosterone 5 times more than estrogen.
@Hope4Brade - I worked with autistic children and on vaccines. Autism is normally not fully visible prior to myelinization getting fairly complete at about 18 months. Are you aware of Patterson at Caltech? He can create a mouse autism at will now. Most people aren't aware that thalidomide causes autism during a critical period of pregnancy. Patterson showed vaccination of mother during the same period thalidomide does causes autism in all offspring.
@Hope4Brade -Google: "patterson caltech autism" Should have caused a lot more stir than it has. But lots of things don't get the publicity they should. As a vaccine researcher, my opinion is that no mother should be vaccinated or exposed to any viral disease until it is certain she has passed 60 days of gestation.
@Hope4Brade - Since you have an autistic son, do you know about hyperbaric oxygen therapy? It is the most likely therapy to make a difference. It has to happen in concert with training like Temple Grandin got. But it works over many sessions. (And it is available from specialty clinics for $200 per session.)
@ellenjhunt I know about every treatment and therapy there is for Autism. My entire focus in life has become Autism. SO you are a vaccine researcher? Who do you work for? What exactly about vaccines do you research? Are you trying to prove or dis-prove anything about them? Also thank you for your comments I enjoy a good dialog.
@Hope4Brade - Well, there is as big a difference between free mercury reacting with testosterone and thimerosal, as there is between gasoline in an open container and the gas in your car's gas tank. You light a match in the first case, you have a fire. In the second case, with the tank closed, it's not a problem. Mercury is toxic and binds to things. We know that. Thimerosal doesn't have that effect.
@ellenjhunt "Lasting neuropathological changes in rat brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal." (Folia Neuropathol. 2010;48(4):258-69.) These findings document neurotoxic effects of thimerosal, at doses equivalent to those used in infant vaccines or higher, in developing rat brain, suggesting likely involvement of this mercurial in neurodevelopmental disorders.
@jj128 - It doesn't matter because thimerosal has been out of vaccines and off the shelves for nearly 10 years now. And most of the vaccines didn't have it in the first place. (As documented above.) There has been no change in the rate of autism diagnosis, so that's not it. We should be spending our energy looking for what is the cause.
There is work showing rats can be made autistic by dosing the mother with vaccines or anything that kicks up an immune response against viruses.
@jcapes55 Yeah that's a great idea. Don't let your kids get vaccinated so they can end up with polio or some other disease and end up crippled or dead.
@jnicholas1980 I find people like you with borderline mental retardation fascinating. You're one who lacks the mental capacity and has low intelligence. Your retarded messages to me are a big indicator of this. What kind of 31 year old spends his time on a Monday afternoon posting weird, stupid, juvenile messages on somebody's wall? Shouldn't a 31 year old like you be working a job instead of playing around on Youtube? Do you not have a job? IIt's noon time. So, why don't you stick to what you..
if vaccines are linked to autism, i got it, then humanity is going to get screwed. someone needs to retaliate before this conspiracy occurs. there is a vaccination program going in my school and i refuse to take it. if anyone agrees please reply.
AlienScientist321 1 month ago
@AlienScientist321 It's been years since my last "vaccination", and I've managed perfectly well with just natural health so far. Heck, I can't even remember the last time I was ill! Personally, I would refuse the jabs and stick with natural remedies which are evidently hundreds of times more effective and safer; but I suggest that you do some research yourself and make your own mind up.
Gik1618 1 month ago
@DummyOuch why would you say that. Ive seen it 1st hand
NZLMade 2 months ago
Mercury is good for your brain. Do not listen to this propaganda video. This university is in Canada!
DummyOuch 2 months ago
@TheSwissRepublic
What is actually a real study? This video featured? Yes, it is a real study, but it has absolutely nothing to do with vaccines. I've already explained at length why it has nothing to do with vaccines.
If you were paying attention to the conversation, you would notice that gonefishin2009 had posted links to videos that contain nothing more than anecdotes from various people, which is what I was commenting on.
What exactly doesn't make much sense to you?
StumpyOuch 2 months ago
Thank you you massive faggots for turning this wonderful video into yet another conspiracy discussion.
"DURRR THEY PUT PIOSON IN MY AIR BECAUSE THEY WANT MONEEYZ DUR DURUDURU"
Lizzardman666 3 months ago
If the government tried to regulate it to be healthy, they'd get sued by the FDA because the pharmasudical companies pay the doctors to write the prescriptions to the people that have the illnesses. If the illnesses are done away with, then the prescriptions don't get written and the pharmaseudical companies don't make money and the FDA doesn't get any money....HELLO PEOPLE--wake up!
photomomma6 3 months ago
@photomomma6
If you want to be taken seriously, at least learn how to spell "pharmaceutical" correctly.
Do you really think that illnesses would not exist without medications?
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@photomomma6 I agree in principle - WHO sued the EU for not accepting American milk onto the market because it contained BGH.
cojanti 3 months ago
omg I get it..I just learned some parts of this too, in bio..
Izlandzadi14 3 months ago
This sure makes eating tuna a whole lot less appealing.
speedtigger 5 months ago
That was very creepy. I have mercury in sealed hard plastic container. I hope it doesn't break! :&
miatuneaphish 6 months ago
As sure as Ribond is in his statement, he is wrong.
Aeig 6 months ago
Mercury poisoning symptoms and Autistic behavior are exactly the same. This research took me 10 minutes...and it was not funded by any pharmaceutic company!
kencane125 6 months ago
If Mercury is not the problem, how come the farmaceutical companies removed it from the vaccines???
kencane125 6 months ago
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@kencane125
They did NOT removed it!!! Mercury (Thimerosal) is STILL in vaccines like the hepatitis-vaccines, H1N1-vaccines, Flu-vaccine, Thetanus-vaccine etc.... Your such a Liar! You obviously had too many vaccines!
whateverpall 6 months ago
Sorry I didn't think the first one posted and then I tried to delete it b/c I don't mean to sound harsh with all caps. I understand both sides, truly. But when you read the facts, and see how they are covered up, and the lack of studies, along with the increase in childhood diseases along with the increase in vaccines, you have to have NO COMMON SENSE to deny it.
bragi20 7 months ago
There IS mercury in NEW childhood vaccines like the Hep B & trust me they push it on you like the rest. The thimerasol hasn't been taken out at all in any 3rd world countries and that proves these people making them don't do anything until people force them to, their interests are not in our childrens' health. I'm a mother of 2 on the spectrum. I had my head in the sand about vaccines too, until my second reacted the day of. Then I made the connection, too late unfortunately.
bragi20 7 months ago
@bragi20 " too late unfortunately" yeah, now your children will live meaningless lives without making friends or any kind of important relationships, they wont get married have kids or anything, they are practically zombies.
9999necron 4 months ago
@rbond THEY ARE STILL IN NEW CHILDHOOD VACCINES SUCH AS THE HEP B/NEW ONES THEY MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE ARE MAND/JUST LIKE THE REST. READ, READ THE CDC'S OWN LIST OF INGREDIENTS. YOU'RE THE MORON.THERE"S ALUMINUM, FORMALDEHYDE, THE LIST OF POISONS GOES ON. MY PED PUSHED THE h1N1 ON MY 3 YR OLD WITH AUTISM. HE REGRESSED. PPL LIKE YOU WHO DON'T KNOW THE FACTS AND PREACH TO US WHO HAVE DONE HOURS OR RESEARCH AND SEEN WITH OUR OWN EYES-PISS ME OFF
bragi20 7 months ago
I heard it was your ability to detox from (all) metals at the moment of exposure, whether you will be injured at that point. It will still continue to accumulate in the body. "If you don't develop autistic spectrum disorder now, you can expect from the accumulation in your lifetime, to develop Alzheimer's, at the minimum." Get a chelation preparation using it periodically, because you are being constantly exposed to these metals in daily life.
inkrjbl 7 months ago
..so tell me who rules this dark world then...the truth fortunately doesnt only stop with MERCURY POISINING...what about OUR SOULS TOO...great video and thanks again..peace...
TruthLifer 9 months ago 4
Well, if you ingest chlorine straight... you die. Breathe chlorine gas, you die. Yet everyone ingests table salt (NaCl) every day. Also pure sodium explodes if thrown into water.
How can this be?
Well, turns out molecular formula is important! Thiomersal, much like table salt, is chemically nothing like the elemental form of one of its atomic constituents.
delosford 10 months ago
Strange voice.
RepublikOfOne 10 months ago
Mercury poisoning and mercury's effects on neurons do not equal to autism!
turms06 10 months ago
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H1N1 shot has Mercury in it... I'm really glad I didn't get it now!!
DrrZippy 10 months ago
I jerk off with mercury because it doesn't wear out like regular lubricants.
SkeksisRule 10 months ago 6
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Vaccinations haven't used mercury for years. All the morons come out on YouTube.
rlbond 10 months ago
@rlbond This is false. The swine flu vaccine, Pandremix, did contain mercury and Norway (population: 4.5 million) bought 9 million shots of this vaccine in 2009.
haraldpost 10 months ago
@haraldpost Did anyone who received those shots suffer any damage in any way.?
outwrangle 10 months ago
@outwrangle Yes. A finnish study concludes that there is a link between the registered increase in narcolepsi between kids, and the mass vaccination with Pandremix. The risk increased by 900%. 300 people in Norway got severely sick after the shot. (spontanious abortions, narcolepsi, nerves paralyzing, allergy shock.)
haraldpost 10 months ago
@haraldpost Wait, so 300 people out of NINE MILLION got sick?
Those are some pretty good odds - I bet there are higher risks from taking Tylenol.
outwrangle 9 months ago
@outwrangle Good odds? Is the vaccine effective, or does it even work at all? Did they even prove that the vaccine was safe? No. Not as I'm aware of. I guess I had the best odds, as I haven't heard of any one getting chronic disease from NOT taking the vaccine... and your numbers are totally off. The bought two shots for each citizen. Population is 4.5 million, and the government worked very hard to persuade people to take the vaccine. Not too many did. They had to destroy millions of vaccines.
haraldpost 9 months ago 2
@rlbond Wheres your proof that it hasn't?
archangel1092 9 months ago
@rlbond oh they must be good for you then........as well as the formaldehyde and aluminium in them..... we can skip of into the sunset now.
ArnoldtheDestroyer 8 months ago 3
@rlbond Actually, vaccines still do contain thimerisol, just some don't, but there's no way to really tell which ones. Furthermore mercury is air-born, i suggest visiting the EPA website on it.
FacetheDay999 8 months ago
@rlbond @rlbond the CDC admits trace amounts CAN be found in flu vaccines/the 'unroutine' childhood vaccines. Such as the new ones they bust out every year. Youtube Vaccines do cause autism-watch the 3rd video w/congressman burton.
bragi20 7 months ago
@bragi20 Most children don't get those vaccines. How can you say vaccines cause autism in children if the only vaccines that have even a trace amount of mercury, aren't even given to kids?
rlbond 7 months ago
@rlbond Thimerosal is still used in Flu Vacc's its been taken out of pediatric vaccs... it has not been removed fully... Know before you speak " moron"
Ethreo 7 months ago
@Ethreo Children don't get those vaccines. So vaccines do not cause autism in children.
rlbond 7 months ago
@rlbond
Incorrect. Sadly, mercury is still very present in vaccinations.
rexmcnish 7 months ago 7
@rlbond
Mercury (Thimerosal) isSTILL in vaccines like the hepatitis-vaccines, H1N1-vaccines, Flu-vaccine, Thetanus-vaccine etc.... Your such a Liar! You obviously had too many vaccines!
whateverpall 6 months ago 3
@whateverpall These vaccines are not given to children... so how can anyone claim that they are causing autism in children?
rlbond 6 months ago
@rlbond
Wrong again all those vaccines are given to children!
whateverpall 6 months ago
@rlbond WRONG!!!!!
Read the ingredients list next time you get a vaccine you will see thimerosal (MERCURY) Its in there...its just not called mercury its called thimerosal!!
surfboardhacker 6 months ago 28
@surfboardhacker
There are special formulas of vaccines approved for pediatric use that are thimerosal free. Simply because one formulation of a vaccines contains thimerosal does not mean that they ALL contain thimerosal. The thimerosal free formulas have been in use for pediatrics for almost 10 years now, and case rates of Autism have not fallen. They've actually risen, thus suggesting that the thimerosal was not the cause.
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StumpyOuch 6 months ago
Here is a link that lists the vaccines approved for pediatric use, and their ingredients.
wwwdotfdadotgov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/ucm096228dothtm#t1
StumpyOuch 6 months ago
@StumpyOuch Having a thimerisol free vaccine does not make the vaccines safe. They are still full of cells from aborted human fetuses, pigs, sheep, monkey kidney cells, calf skin cells and in some cases diseases like HIV and cancer have been in there too.
Google vaccines ingredients, and watch this video. /watch?v=edikv0zbAlU
Vaccines are not for me or my family, but to each their own.
surfboardhacker 6 months ago
@surfboardhacker
Using such fearmongering tactics to scare people away from life saving vaccines is disgusting.
I'm posting a link to a site that has an excellent article that address your concerns about fetus and cell tissue. It does a much better job of pointing out the flaws in your argument than I could here.
wwwdotsciencebasedmedicinedotorg/indexdotphp/toxic-myths-about-vaccines/
I doubt that you'll actually read it, but at least it's there for anyone else who is interested.
StumpyOuch 6 months ago
@StumpyOuch
I am one who actually took the time to read the risks/ benefits and listen to both sides of the argument and based my decision on my best educated judgement. Anyone who wishes to vaccinate themselves or their children should research BOTH sides of the issues and make their own decision. As I stated vaccines are not for me or my family, why is that such an issue for you? The TRUTH is what should scare people. Vaccines are not safe and you need to educate before you vaccinate.
surfboardhacker 6 months ago
@StumpyOuch BTW I see your only mission on youtube is to troll vaccine video's and force your opinions on the world. Somehow you personify the exact thing you criticize in others.
Have a nice life and have fun trolling the vaccine videos. I understand this is probably your great work in life so I wont take it from you. People are smart enough to see through youtube trolls like yourself.
Peace and love.
surfboardhacker 6 months ago
@surfboardhacker
I see that you completely ignored the information I posted, simply going off on personal attacks while simultaneously neglecting to provide any sort of evidence that supports your assertations that vaccinations are dangerous. Why am I not surprised?
Be well!
StumpyOuch 6 months ago
@StumpyOuch Yeah, sure accuse me of ad hominem attacks and avoiding your points, when its YOU who have failed to address the truth about vaccines...relying on a site run by the same people who run also run a site called the skeptics guide to the universe. Please....You believe what you wish. Its your right in this country to be stupid, I am not going to take that from you either. Keep up the good fight, and trolling youtube vaccine and Ron Paul videos. You are clearly on the path you deserve.
surfboardhacker 6 months ago
@surfboardhacker
What "truth" specifically are you interested in? I gave you a link to the FDA which lists the ingredients for specific vaccines, which you ignored. The link I gave you to sciencebasedmedicine lists several sources that supports their arguments, which you ignored.
Yet again, you've failed to supply any sort of evidence that supports you.
Why do I have the feeling you're going to claim that the FDA/CDC are all lying and then start on about NWO or some other conspiracy junk?
StumpyOuch 6 months ago
@StumpyOuch Take your psychotropic med's drink your fluoridated water, eat your GMO food, take your vaccinations, keep informed by your mainstream media and go back to sleep. The world is good, you are safe being protected by your all loving government. There are no conspiracies Life is good.
Keep Trollin! :)
surfboardhacker 6 months ago 25
@surfboardhacker
Why is it that every single anti-vaxer I've encountered on YouTube is a conspiracy freak? Truly, every single one of you.
And yet again, completely ignoring the evidence I've provided, while providing absolutely none of your own.
Good job at being predictable! Every single conspiracy freak anti-vaxer is indistinguishable from the rest.
StumpyOuch 6 months ago
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@StumpyOuch
It must be a conspiracy!
surfboardhacker 6 months ago 3
@StumpyOuch Just watch the video and leave politics out of the scenario. It is a simple FACT that mercury is dangerous. [Nicotine is a poison. Fluoride is a poison. Chlorine is a poison.]
The answer to your query though is this: it ceases to be a conspiracy when you establish a motive of money... then it simply becomes a matter of who stands to gain the most. I do not think the chemical companies and weapons makers are "evil" they just think of clever ways to get their waste sold. This happens.
TheShadowlin 3 months ago
@TheShadowlin
I have watched this video and it has absolutely nothing to do with mercury in vaccines.
For example, in this video, they're placing an amount of mercury GREATER than that found in a vaccine on a single neuron. So basically it takes more than one vaccine that contains mercury to kill on neuron.
Thankfully, vaccines are not administered directly onto brain neurons, and you have more than one neuron. You have about 100 billion.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch For most people yes, but you are forgeting a few things: Firstly, it's bio-acumulitive. Secondly, most kids get dozens of vaccines before they get to high school. Thirdly, some people are hyper-sensitive and lastly - there are other things in vaccines like alluminium.
I'm sorry but the vast majority of studies conducted these days are funded directly or indirectly by the drug companies - that represents a huge conflict of interest, and is not a system designed to discover the truth.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti That's "accumulative," sunshine. Normally nitpicking grammar online is a rotten habit, but c'mon, we're discussing science here. You are not exactly persuading us of your expertise if you can't even spell the terms your arguments stand upon. You can't even spell "aluminum," but you expect us to believe you've read enough biochemistry to know what you're talking about?!
wheelofmasks 3 months ago
@wheelofmasks Yes - we are discussing science, not the English language. I was in a hurry - I made mistakes... Perhaps that's what the FDA will say when they finally conclude that fast-tracking vaccines was not the best tactic for the health of the public.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
Ethylmercury, the type of mercury found in vaccines, does not bio-accumulate. It clears the system within 10 days, I believe. Methylmercury, the type of mercury found in foods/water does bio-accumulate. Also, vaccines approved for pediatric use do not contain mercury. There are mercury free formulations of every vaccine available save japanese enceph.
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StumpyOuch 3 months ago
Aluminum is the most abundant metallic element on earth. It's in food and water you consume daily. You're exposed to far more of it in daily life than you would ever get from a vaccine. And yes, your body does absorb it through ingestion, and no vaccines are not administered "directly into the bloodstream!!"
It's amazing that as much as "Big pharma" is bad mouthed, no one seems to think that one pharmaceutical company wouldn't point out of a competitor's vaccines was causing damage.
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StumpyOuch 3 months ago
Pharmaceutical companies would love to be able to take business away from competitors by showing that their product was safer/better than a competitor. Only conspiracy nuts would think that they wouldn't.
Perhaps you should read something other than antivaccine websites.
Some basic science you should look into:
Toxicity is dose related. Really, this seems to be the biggest hurdle antivaxers face in understanding how vaccines work. It really seems to be beyond understanding for them.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch It's my understanding that ethyl mercury is around 5 times less toxic than methyl mercury. It crosses the blood brain barrier less easily, & has a slightly shorter half life in the body. It is still considered a neurotoxin.
It has been reported that children can get a dose of mercury 30 - 60 times the safe level as recommended by the EPA in one vaccine visit to the doctors.
At best the evidence is patchy and incomplete. The unknown is dangerous when dealing with anything mandatory
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
And ethylmercury is the type used in vaccines.
The EPA level that you're using is for methylmercury in drinking water, which has absolutely nothing to do with ethylmercury in vaccines.
And again, vaccines licensed and approved for pediatric use do not contain mercury in either form.
Who do you think should be conducting tests and studies on this? You don't trust info that comes from pharma companies or the government. Whose studies would you trust?
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch You ask me who I would trust to research these things properly? My answer would be anyone who's profit is the same regardles of results.
Anyone who stands to gain if the results lean in any particular direction cannot be trusted. It's not conspiracy, it's basic business sense. For pharma, research is an investment, and they want it to pay off.
Having ex-pharma CEOs running the FDA is unacceptable. As is bypassing proper testing in order to fast track a vaccine.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
OK, then exactly who are these people whose profits would be the same? Surely you must have someone in mind.
Who do you think out there has the funds, education, and resourced to do these studies?
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch I don't have anyone in mind, because I'm not sure they exist. Or if they do, they are so small that I have not heard of them. I think the FDA could be this organisation, if all outside interest were firewalled off.
It's a very serious question for the entire medical industry, and one they must deal with soon because people are loosing faith in the system.
I would be happy with anything which put people first and profits second - and that also goes for government.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
Then why are you criticizing "Big Pharma" for no one else doing studies? How is that their fault? The same with the government.
Criticizing vaccines, which have prevented untold numbers of deaths and illness, simply because they're not perfect (nothing in life is, remember) or because people are compensated for their work in making them, is absolutely idiotic.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch Another consideration is efficacy. These vaccines have not been independantly verified to be effective. At the very least the drug companies are profiteering from false hope and placebo, and at the most.... Well, you just try talking to mothers who lost their children after seizures hours after their vaccinations.
Either way, my viewpoint is that there has not been enough independent research to warrant the mandatory status of vaccines.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
Efficacy of vaccines can clearly be seen after the introduction of the vaccines. Or do you think it's a coincidence that rates of diseases drop after a vaccine has been introduced?
And no, it can't all be attributed to improved sanitation and nutrition. Vaccines have been introduced in the past 20 years where the disease rates have fallen drastically after their introduction, and without any sort of leap in sanitation or nutrition.
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StumpyOuch 3 months ago
Not to mention the reduction of diseases in underdeveloped countries after a vaccine has been introduced. These countries STILL have poor sanitation and nutrition, but cases of diseases have still fallen.
I'll never understand why anti-vaxers criticize "Big Pharma" and the government for no one else doing studies.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch Through proper regulation and laws against corruption, the government could design a system which created a far healthier happier country. Modern science is incredible and our potential amazing. But the current system seeks monopoly and control, and stiffles human development in every field whilst rewarding a few heavily.
We are natural problem solvers, but at the moment we are obsesses with owning the solution and creating the problem.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
We already have laws and regulations. What do you think "proper" regulations and laws would be, exactly? No matter what they are, you'll still have a segment of the population insisting that it's corrupt or a conspiracy or whatever.
You think former employees of pharmaceutical companies shouldn't be involved in the FDA, but really, who are you going to hire? It's a very small and specialized industry, you can't hire anyone off the street to do the job.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@cojanti
I'll also point out that to create a healthier and happier country you would have to change the lifestyles of almost the entire nation.
I'm all for promoting healthier lifestyles, better nutrition, more exercise, no smoking, etc.... but you're talking about human nature. The government or "big Pharma" can't force people to get off their couch or to put the fried chicken away, and criticizing them for the population being unhealthy is simply neglecting personal responsibility.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch Now we're getting to the good stuff! I agree-diet & nutrition is vitally important. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
But - human nature is going for the red candy bars because our brain is telling us it's ripe fruit - or over eating when we have fructose because our body tells us it's harvest time and winters coming.
The govt have power to make changes.
Fresh produce should not be more expensive than a big mac meal, so stop subsidising the corn industry!
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
A Big Mac Meal here costs around $5-$6. I can buy several meals worth of fresh produce for that. Stir fry veggies are cheap: carrots, broccoli, onions, bell peppers. In season, some nice cucumbers and tomatoes for a salad.
Human nature is to go with what tastes good and is easy. Hence fast food and fats and sugar. I don't care too much for a nanny state. Gov should provide basic nutritional education and then personal responsibility should kick in.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch I'm talking about GMO free, pesticide free food. You may say that's no concern, but it wasn't that long ago DDT was approved as safe and sprayed on everything.
I think the govt would have no trouble in promoting safe natural food and educating people if they wanted to.
Just look what happened with smoking - doctors used to prescribe it for stress! I hope the same thing will happen to the medical and food industry - informed choice = life before profits.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
So you think the only alternative to "GMO free, pesticide free food" is junk or fast food? Kind of an extremist attitude, you know.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch What is extreme is the gulf between organic food & the modern day diet. Modified, sprayed ,processed beyond recognition.
People think organic is just 1 end of the spectrum -but we forget it was the only option for thousands of years throughout our evolution.
Sure.modern agriculture is amazing in many respects, but it is profit which is driving it - not human health - and that's driving it into some pretty dark places in my opinion - just as in healthcare.
Still, just my opinion
cojanti 2 months ago
@StumpyOuch I will add that it's not just down to the govt - people do have to take responsibilty for their own health. But in order to take responsibiity they need to be well informed. Eg - 'You're fillings have mercury in them', 'You're water is treated with flouride', 'aspartame breaks down into formaldehyde' - etc etc.
When people are well informed they are able to make better decisions. GMO food requires labeling by law in the EU, and as a result it is hardly consumed.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
I would prefer that people are taught basic science and nutrition.
For example, that toxicity is dose related. This seems to be impossible for some people to understand.
Rationality and logic along with science are things that are sorely needed to be focused on.
For example, people shouldn't be afraid of a substance simply because it's there. They need to understand that the AMOUNT of the substance is what causes concern. Formaldehyde is produced naturally by your body.
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StumpyOuch 3 months ago
Mercury occurs naturally in food and water. As does aluminum.
Unfortunately, uneducated people tend to be hysterical and over reactionary because these things sound scary.
If they understood simple concepts such as toxicity being doseage related, they would not be so alarmed at such trivial things.
I would also prefer that everyone who speaks English as their first language learn the difference between "your" and "you're". It's a major indicator of a poor education.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch The majority of people receive up to 38 vaccinations before the age of one-and-a-half years. For babies especially, since their immune systems are young and under-developed, that is over-dosing - not just with mercury, but a plethora of other toxins typically used in vaccines. So of course this stuff is scary!
Gik1618 1 month ago
@Gik1618
Seeing as how US pediatric vaccines haven't contained mercury for almost 10 years now, your point is a bit moot.
Yet again, toxicity is dose related. The amount of "toxins" found in vaccines (do you even know what "toxins" you're talking about, other than mercury?) are NOT large enough to cause problems, even for babies.
Do you even have a clue as to the amount of "toxins" found in a vaccine, especially in comparison to exposure from every day life?
StumpyOuch 1 month ago
@Gik1618
Now, before you respond with "but vaccines are injected directly into the bloodstream!!!" I'll clue you into the little fact that no vaccine is given intravenously (which means directly into the bloodstream). Vaccines are given intramuscular, subcutaneous, nasal spray or oral drops.
And your digestive system does NOT block out the "toxins" that people are exposed to via ingestion. People are exposed to much larger amounts of toxins every day than what they're exposed to from a vax
StumpyOuch 1 month ago
@StumpyOuch the toxins people are exposed to everyday are not INJECTED into their bodies
lovelara2 4 weeks ago
@lovelara2
And why exactly do you think because something is in an injection it is inherently more dangerous?
Please read my comments below in regards to "injected directly into the bloodstream!!!" nonsense and how your digestive system is designed to absorb what you eat.
And your body deals with "toxins" the same way once it's in the bloodstream. It doesn't care how it got there.
StumpyOuch 4 weeks ago
StumpyOuch 1 month ago
@StumpyOuch Pharmaceutical companies would never act as whistle blowers on each other because they know it would come back to bite them.
Just look at Vioxx. Merck's profits suffered initially, but now a whole range of NSAIDS are under question and other companies profits are falling. No CEO of another company would ever have ordered an investigation into vioxx.
If they were so sure of their products, they wouldn't be the number one lobbyists in Washington.
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti
Pharma companies regularly try to undermine the competition. You're naive to think they don't.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch The Institute of Medicine recently (Aug 2011) conducted a study into 8 common vaccines, & in more than 100 of the most common adverse side effects like seizure and autism, they could not conclude either way. This is the most in depth, independent, up-to-date research on vaccines, and they say 'we don't know'. There may be safer ingredients out there like organic forms of mercury, but right now they are not considered safe and are compulsary. This to me is shocking.
cojanti 3 months ago
@TheShadowlin
Yes, it is a FACT that those substances are dangerous. It's also a FACT that the AMOUNT of those substances are what make them dangerous, and the AMOUNTS of those substances found in vaccines are not great enough to be dangerous.
ANYTHING can be dangerous, in high enough quantities.
Toxicity is dose related. - go learn some more about that fact.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@TheShadowlin
Pharmaceutical companies stand to make exponentially more sums of money treating diseases than they do from preventing those diseases
For example:
Polio vaccine- about 50 bucks
Lifetime treatment for polio- 100s of thousands or even 1 million + dollars.
So there goes that theory.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@surfboardhacker thers no need to be sarcastic because it will all end soon, i hope.
AlienScientist321 1 month ago
@StumpyOuch Not ALL vaccines have mercury, just a handful of them. You have to read a book like "Teh Vaccine Book" to get a good simplified list of ingredients. Most manufacturers have switched to Aluminum (awesome... rolls eyes) and monkey brains (brilliant... prions anyone?)
But yeah... at least MOST of the vaccines are mercury free. I mean why demand they update their EXPENSIVE factories, we're just talking about children here.
TheShadowlin 3 months ago
@TheShadowlin
I don't need the book to get the lit of ingredients, they come in the package insert of every vaccines, or I can look it up online for each specific vaccine.
Mercury and aluminum are not interchangeable for vaccines. They're used for completely different purposes.
To get rid of vaccines, vaccine makers simply make single dose formulations, because mercury was used to prevent bacterial growth in multi use vials.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch
edit-* to get rid of mercury, vaccine makers simply make single dose formulations.*
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@surfboardhacker What a great flow of rational toughts you have there. Should we start calling every organic compound there is "carbon" now?
omglulz1234 3 months ago
@omglulz1234 Thimerosal is mercury. Mercury destroys brain cells. Thimerosal is in vaccines in concentrations that are toxic, especially for infants and children.
surfboardhacker 3 months ago
@surfboardhacker
No, we've been over this before.
1. The amount of thimerosal in vaccines that contain it are NOT at toxic levels. Apparently you STILL don't understand what toxicity is or how it's determined. I'm afraid that you're not mentally capable of understanding this concept
2. Vaccines approved for pediatric use in the US do not contain thimerosal. There are specific formulations that are thimerosal free. Simply because one vaccine may contain it does not mean they all do.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch
Thats your opinion, not fact. Vaccines also contain squalene which is linked to many autoimmune disorders including gulf war syndrome and guillain barre.
surfboardhacker 3 months ago 21
@surfboardhacker
No, it is not my opinion. It is a fact. Which vaccines in the US contain squalene? Name me just one. The brand name of the vaccine, please.
Show where you're getting information that the amount of mercury in vaccines is a toxic dose. Scientific evidence, mind you. Not some antivaccine site that merely claims it is.
w ww*fda*gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228- info on mercury toxicity
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
Simply because I know you're not going to go to all the trouble of actually reading any information I post, I'll insert the relevant material here for anyone wants to see it:
"Several cases of acute mercury poisoning from thimerosal-containing products were found in the medical literature with total doses of thimerosal ranging from approximately 3 mg/kg to several hundred mg/kg."
That's 3mg/kg of thimerosal. Vaccines that contain thimerosal is around 25 MICROGRAMS. 1,000 micrograms =1 mg.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch It does not justify injecting it into people's bodies even if it's a supposedly low dose. In fact, that's besides the point: symptoms associated with mercury poisoning still occur days following vaccinations, and there are myriad reported cases.
Gik1618 1 month ago
@Gik1618
Do you have a problem with nasal spray vaccines or oral drop vaccines, or are you merely objecting to vaccine via injections?
What symptoms associated with mercury poisoning? Where are you getting your information? Do you even know what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are, or are you simply repeating what you've heard from antivax sites?
StumpyOuch 1 month ago
@StumpyOuch
MF59 adjuvanted vacines like Fluad which health Canada approved for use contain squalene. The pandemic H1N1 Vaccines that were given and made my GlaxosmithKlien adjuvented with AS03 contain squalene... I mean if you want to believe the world is flat its your choice... but the fact is its round and Vaccines arent something I would put inside myself nor would I tell others to do so without knowing what the hell they are getting stuck with. It's Your life do what you wish partner.
surfboardhacker 3 months ago
@surfboardhacker
1. Canada is not the US.
2. No H1N1 vaccines given in the US had squalene:
ww w*cdc*gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/pregnant_qa*htm#h
Do you have any actual information to prove what you're saying?
Do you have any info that says squalene is harmful in the amounts found in a vaccine?
Do you have any info that supports your statements that the level of thimerosal found in vaccines is toxic?
I've shown you evidence that supports me. Where is yours?
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@surfboardhacker
The H1N1 vaccines manufactured by glaxossmithklein with As03 was solely for European markets, not the US.
I'd also like to point out that alt. health gurus routinely suggest people use shark liver oil, which is comprised mostly of squalene, to improve their immune systems.
Where is your information that it is harmful in the amounts found in any vaccines?
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch Look... you are passionate about your beliefs to the point of being cultish. You have all the info you need, Im not going to sit here and spoon feed you. I dont have the time nor desire. If you have any interest in learning I've already told you what to go and look for. If not then quit polluting this video with your comments.
surfboardhacker 3 months ago
@surfboardhacker
You're the one that's trying to persuade people to leave their children unprotected against deadly diseases based solely on ignorance and paranoia.
If you'll notice, all I've done is ask for evidence for what you claim. It's not my fault you're not capable of giving that evidence.
Do you notice how I can give specific information to support what I say? Why are you unable to do the same? All you're capable of doing is making wild accusations.
cont
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@surfboardhacker
It's amazing that you seem to have the time and desire to repeat incorrect material that has been pointed out to you several times before. You have the time and desire to make wild claims about how these things are dangerous to people. But you don't have the time to post a link that supports your claim?
Posting any information to support your claim would take less time than insisting that you don't have the time to do so.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch
Shut the fuck up. My niece was damaged from Vaccines. /watch?v=URHhyP4lmQ4 or watch?v=jUYMXK9cPMA or watch?v=lXKjX78iS7o or watch?v=hPBK4vUVyxE or watch?v=C1ydcdDnzSs
or watch?v=Kcpoqo_MNis or watch?v=gM117iPkUjc or watch?v=8xc4yBNV-U0
So fuckoff that vaccines are safe.
gonefishin2009 3 months ago
@gonefishin2009
Oh lord, yet another emotionally unstable person who thinks youtube videos are valid evidence of medical/scientific claims.
Should I even bother to ask if you have any actual evidence, or are you limited to posting various youtube videos based solely on anecdotal evidence?
StumpyOuch 3 months ago
@StumpyOuch
You little cocksucker, I pray one day its NOT your child.
gonefishin2009 3 months ago
@gonefishin2009
Yet again, nothing but emotional pleas and insults.
I'm not swayed by those. Why is it that anti vaxers are never able to give any actual evidence to support what they say? Such evidence would do much more to advance your agenda than running around insulting people and posting youtube videos of nothing but anecdotal evidence.
StumpyOuch 3 months ago 2
@gonefishin2009
Sorry to hear that.
surfboardhacker 2 months ago
But Fox news reported on a supposed study stating the mercury could actually be good for our kids' brains. We should believe them, right?
soyhwh 10 months ago
If you look at the REAL research, this type of mercury is used for dental fillings which is a completely different type of mercury used for the autism vaccination. This type of mercury was shown to do damage in alzheimers patients which is a totally different part of the brain than what autism is. Google the researchers names and you will be able to read the actual results.
amandasflower 10 months ago 2
Eugenics! What's the most effective way for the elites to control, debilitate, and kill whole populations covertly? Through a giant, heavily marketed vaccine program, and but suppressing and discrediting any evidence that might expose and endanger that agenda.
jj128 11 months ago
population control!
TheJovanist 11 months ago
@TheJovanist Great point... Many people need to familiarize themselves with a philosophy called "Eugenics"... Its the same ideology perpetrated by the Nazi's and its the same ideology propagated by the modern ruling elitists who own and operate the government through (for hire) politicians. Wake-up sheeple! The ruling class want you and your offspring dead... whether thats through poisonous vaccines, fluoridated water, GMO foods, artificial sweetner, chem trails, or some fabricated disease.
WeHaveBeenDeceived 11 months ago 2
I can't listen to the audio for the video - does this video fill in the gap between "mercury kills brain neurons" and "autism is mercury poisoning"?
spiderwillkillyou 1 year ago
People who don't know what they are talking about should not flag the messages of those who do for removal.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago 4
Well, since the newscasters and newspapers are saying its false, I guess we have nothing to worry about right? Whose for swordfish streaks and tap water anyone??? I have seen and heard from reputable sources that mercury is a danger, now someone from the times chimes in and says its all false and inaccurate. I'm sorry, but I'm not jumping on any bandwagon that's reversing this theory anytime soon without something solid to back it up besides someone from the times.
avenqer 1 year ago
@avenqer - Mercury is a toxin. That is not being questioned. But there is no link between mercury in vaccines or lack of mercury in vaccines and autism. None. Zero. Nothing.
Declaring the FDA and the science community to be lying, even about whether or not there is mercury in vaccines is ridiculous.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago
@ellenjhunt No evidence from the "expert" medical community.. but independent studies have linked mercury toxicity to autism. The amount of "recommended" vaccines for young children has more than tripled in the last 30 years... and so has child autism. Guillane-Barre syndrone is a neurological disorder directly linked to mercury toxicity and funny how cases flair up every flu season. And I suppose you believe the FDA is open and honest just like the rest of our bought and paid for government. HA
WeHaveBeenDeceived 11 months ago
Actually there are plenty of studies showing a potential link. "Declaring the FDA and the science community to be lying, even about whether or not there is mercury in vaccines is ridiculous." That's one of the most laughable statements i've heard in sometime. The FDA and CDC are ultra corrupt! They are on the payrolls of vaccine makers! Either you're totally living in a fantasy, or you're on their payroll too!
jj128 11 months ago
@jj128 Yes, because scientists aren't people like us, they are horrible monsters that want our children to have debilitating brain disorders.
Zootlization 10 months ago 6
@jj128 "Either you're totally living in a fantasy, or you're on their payroll too!"
I'm sorry, but look at yourself. That is EXACTLY the language of a classic kook. "If you don't agree with my theory, you must be BRAINWASHED! BRAINWAAAASHED! In fact, you're probably ALL hired by the THRIVING MERCURY INDUSTRY! Get out of my brain!"
Pffft. The scientific truth does not rely on which way money flows, and logic does not bend to insults.
wheelofmasks 10 months ago 11
@wheelofmasks - Schizophrenia is an internet fad... lol
CohanDigitmatta 5 months ago
@CohanDigitmatta Actually schizophrenia meds are the 5th most sold drug in the country. Scary...
TheShadowlin 3 months ago
@TheShadowlin - Do you have the source of that data handy?... Just so happens i've been trying to find it this past week, lol. Good Timing!
CohanDigitmatta 3 months ago
@wheelofmasks you said - "The scientific truth does not rely on which way money flows"
Have you heard of the FDA??
cojanti 3 months ago
@cojanti Yes. Thank you for patronizing me. Given that what you said has NOTHING to do with whether the truth or untruth of a scientific fact is dependent on the funding of who discovered it, I feel that I can walk away from this discussion feeling a little more confident that you are a kook and well-worth ignoring. Now, before I go ahead and do that walking, would you like to say something relevant, or do you have another thought-terminating cliche to parrot like the conspiracy ninny you are?
wheelofmasks 3 months ago
@wheelofmasks Patronizing you was never my intention-I'm sorry if I caused offense. I believe the mention of the FDA is entirely relevant to finding the truth, given most of their research is funded by the drug companies.
This conflict of interests has weakened the trust in our entire medical system & has given us such gifts as aspartame, vioxx and countless other dangerous & untested chemicals which continue to cause pain & suffering to many. Call it what you will, I call it common sense.
cojanti 3 months ago
We have known for some time now that the study purporting that vaccines cause autism was flawed and wrong. But now there is evidence that the study was actually fraudulent, and involved the falsification of data. I wonder how many children have died or will die because of people believing this nonsense and refusing to vaccinate their children against diseases?
ibcnunabit 1 year ago
@ibcnunabit You should get your information from sources not on the payroll! Try watching less tv and reading more studies (preferably ones not directly or indirectly funded by vaccine makers).
jj128 11 months ago
military shot me up with so many vaccines. Will i die?
SwisherSweetEddie 1 year ago
@SwisherSweetEddie - Yes. :-)
Everyone dies. Question is, from what? Not from your vaccines, most likely.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago
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ellenjhunt 1 year ago
1. False. Thimerosol (the only mercury compound) is only present in 4 out of 30 pediatric vaccine. All pediatric vaccine types are available from multiple manufacturers without thimerosal. Google FDA thimerosal in vaccines
2. Thimerosal toxicity is low. Video shows a different mercury. Google thimerosal toxicity FDA.
3. Autism not equal mercury poisoning. Best article I know is from mouse model of autism at Caltech. Google: Maternal Immune Activation Alters Fetal Brain Development
ellenjhunt 1 year ago 2
-Thimerosal remains in all vaccines in the vaccine supply. There are vaccines that have expiration's reaching beyond 2012. No vaccine manufacturer has pulled their thimerosal-containing supply from warehouse shelves. These vaccines will continue to be used on the unknowing public.
--This video does show the form of Mercury that is used in dental work. However, the form of mercury that makes thimerosal is far more toxic.Googling FDA will not yield unbiased results. Same with CDC or APA.
Hope4Brade 1 year ago
@Hope4Brade No. Out of the 30 vaccines approved normally given to children, 16 NEVER contained thimerosal. Of the remaining 14, 3 removed thimerosal 10 years ago or more. The others removed by 2007. The shelf life of remaining vaccines was 3 years. So they are removed. Google "fda thimerosal in vaccines"
ellenjhunt 1 year ago 2
@ellenjhunt Actually if you Google FDA CDC or APA you are asking to be lied to about mercury, vaccines, and Autism. Those are the exact same organizations that will be held liable if they ever admit that vaccines CAUSE Autism. So please do not Google FDA and expect the truth, in fact do not Google anything and expect to be told the truth. Read the medical journals, follow up on what personal interests lie with the ppl defending vaccines and educate yourself on these matters. Google is not God.
Hope4Brade 1 year ago
@Hope4Brade - Nonsense. The only one who has lied about mercury in vaccines or autism is Wakefield.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago
@Hope4Brade - Thimerosal is very clearly, by experiment, shown to be far less toxic. So no, that is not correct.
And no, it's not true that thimerosal remains in all vaccines. That is just wrong.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago
@ellenjhunt Induction of metallothionein in mouse cerebellum and cerebrum with low-dose thimerosal injection, Cell Biology and Toxicology, 0742-2091 (Print) 1573-6822 (Online), 9 April 2009). 'As a result of the present findings, in combination with the brain pathology observed in patients diagnosed with autism, the present study helps to support the possible biological plausibility for how low-dose exposure to mercury from thimerosal-containing vaccines may be associated with autism'
jj128 11 months ago
@Hope4Brade Finally, someone informed and connected to reality.
jj128 11 months ago
@ellenjhunt Yeah, get your information from the FDA...they aren't corrupt!!! LOL! 1) Mercury is still in the multi‐dose flu vaccines throughout the world. Trace amounts remain in several other vaccines(along with aluminum, formaldehyde, and a myriad of other toxic substances). 2) "Lasting neuropathological changes in rat brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal." Just one of many studies (not funded by vaccine makers).
jj128 11 months ago
@ellenjhunt 3) "Autism not equal mercury poisoning". Interesting how the symptoms of autism spectrum disorder are almost identical to mercury poisoning. Oh just a coincidence I'm sure.
jj128 11 months ago
"Autism is mercury poisoning." lol- no it is not mate
panta22 1 year ago
@panta22 You do have a point. I believe that there are some ppl born with a form of Autism. I also KNOW that others, like my son are not born with any disabilities and around 17 months they become Autistic. I believe that the difference is Autism that ppl present at birth is genetic in some way and Autism that presents later in life is directly caused from vaccines and Thimerosal. The reason there is a 5-1 boy VS girl ratio, is because Mercury binds to testosterone 5 times more than estrogen.
Hope4Brade 1 year ago
@Hope4Brade - I worked with autistic children and on vaccines. Autism is normally not fully visible prior to myelinization getting fairly complete at about 18 months. Are you aware of Patterson at Caltech? He can create a mouse autism at will now. Most people aren't aware that thalidomide causes autism during a critical period of pregnancy. Patterson showed vaccination of mother during the same period thalidomide does causes autism in all offspring.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago 2
@Hope4Brade -Google: "patterson caltech autism" Should have caused a lot more stir than it has. But lots of things don't get the publicity they should. As a vaccine researcher, my opinion is that no mother should be vaccinated or exposed to any viral disease until it is certain she has passed 60 days of gestation.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago 2
@Hope4Brade - Since you have an autistic son, do you know about hyperbaric oxygen therapy? It is the most likely therapy to make a difference. It has to happen in concert with training like Temple Grandin got. But it works over many sessions. (And it is available from specialty clinics for $200 per session.)
ellenjhunt 1 year ago
@ellenjhunt I know about every treatment and therapy there is for Autism. My entire focus in life has become Autism. SO you are a vaccine researcher? Who do you work for? What exactly about vaccines do you research? Are you trying to prove or dis-prove anything about them? Also thank you for your comments I enjoy a good dialog.
Hope4Brade 1 year ago
@Hope4Brade - I have worked on vaccine adjuvants. I have worked on a measles vaccine. I have worked on gene therapy.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago
@Hope4Brade - Well, there is as big a difference between free mercury reacting with testosterone and thimerosal, as there is between gasoline in an open container and the gas in your car's gas tank. You light a match in the first case, you have a fire. In the second case, with the tank closed, it's not a problem. Mercury is toxic and binds to things. We know that. Thimerosal doesn't have that effect.
ellenjhunt 1 year ago
@ellenjhunt "Lasting neuropathological changes in rat brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal." (Folia Neuropathol. 2010;48(4):258-69.) These findings document neurotoxic effects of thimerosal, at doses equivalent to those used in infant vaccines or higher, in developing rat brain, suggesting likely involvement of this mercurial in neurodevelopmental disorders.
jj128 11 months ago
@jj128 - It doesn't matter because thimerosal has been out of vaccines and off the shelves for nearly 10 years now. And most of the vaccines didn't have it in the first place. (As documented above.) There has been no change in the rate of autism diagnosis, so that's not it. We should be spending our energy looking for what is the cause.
There is work showing rats can be made autistic by dosing the mother with vaccines or anything that kicks up an immune response against viruses.
ellenjhunt 11 months ago
in short....dont get the damn shot. If you have children, dont let them get these vaccinations. this really pisses me off
jcapes55 1 year ago
@jcapes55 Yeah that's a great idea. Don't let your kids get vaccinated so they can end up with polio or some other disease and end up crippled or dead.
jnicholas1980 1 year ago
@jnicholas1980 I find people like you with borderline mental retardation fascinating. You're one who lacks the mental capacity and has low intelligence. Your retarded messages to me are a big indicator of this. What kind of 31 year old spends his time on a Monday afternoon posting weird, stupid, juvenile messages on somebody's wall? Shouldn't a 31 year old like you be working a job instead of playing around on Youtube? Do you not have a job? IIt's noon time. So, why don't you stick to what you..
gongoozler18 1 year ago