"Squeeze flashlight illustration shows that one pumpable flashlight is more than adequate to keep the primary pendulum going which causes secondary oscillations adequate to pump a bank of such flashlights."
How about your hand doing the work moron? That flashlight has an end point for the squeeze and beyond that point it's your hand that does the work. For how long would you be able to keep pushing that weight?
Everybody seems to be missing the power source, gravity, the flashlight starts the motion and the pendulum partially isolates it. Anyone who thinks that gravity violates conservation of energy probably also thinks the planets do not orbit and the world is flat. These pendulums work in the same vein as the large gyroscopic precession generators, tapping into force that we ignore because we take it for granted.
I am trully amazed that there are hundreds of school dropouts who "see" this as a source of unlimited energy when author himself never said that. Thats because he is NOT stupid, unlike many fat arses on the internet eager to get rich quick.
People - use your time wisely and learn that you can not change laws of nature. If you want to produce output energy from a falling object larger then the input and using earths gravity - then you better come up with some way to slow earth down.
If there is something I disliked about Milkovic's examples of testing his units this must be it. You can easly make the bulbs on the other end light without making the one in your hand light, thats because you push it a little slower, then allmost no light is produced, but allmost the same ammount of energy is still transferred to the pendulum.
This thing works though, it is completely reversed from all normal mechanical interactions, when you increase its resistance its efficiency will incr
"You can easly make the bulbs on the other end light without making the one in your hand light, thats because you push it a little slower, then allmost no light is produced, but allmost the same ammount of energy is still transferred to the pendulum."
I Agree... And you can even add more than one lamp to push the pendulum and we still wont know the amount of input energy! .. Until we measure it! I suggest Ep= m*g*dh (m= pendulum mass, dh = effective pendulum amplitude height differential)
Yes I agree, mass times gravity acceleration will give you its force. Then times height or distance you will get the work it does, then measure it over time and you have energy in versus energy out.
The thing is though, that I think RHEAD here has already done that, and maybe you should ask him what his results are :)
I suggest that for input energy measurements one need to mark pendulum mass center, then to put paper with ruler grid behind pendulum, to use video camera to record heights and to push pendulum LEFT and UP when pendulum fulcrum reach starting (= max height point)!
For output E measurements one need addition to previous: 18 experiments (or 18 Watt meters) for dinamo lamp(s) + Timer recorded by video camera to calculate Work from extrapolated Power Graph(s)...
I think RHEAD here has already done that, and maybe you should ask him what his results are :)
I have asked not just him ...
As soon as some of the people that have this machine do and publish correct and precise Energy VIDEO measurements and if that measurements shows overunity then any Physicist in the world will be able to see it and repeat the test! + somebody gets Nobel praise and a lot of money!
But even if that type of measurements do not show overunity its very useful to publish them!
> You can just record what its weight is, see how high it goes for each turn and see how long it takes, than you have a good measurement.
That measurement have been done by Jovan Bebic and can be read on veljkomilkovic web site. It shows 22 times "overunity".
But the same "overunity" effect we have with a single pendulum itself! Or with a spring! You don't need 2 stage oscillator for that. Just push pendulum once and see how it climb up many times more then a single input lift or stroke!
> You can just record what its weight is, see how high it goes for each turn and see how long it takes, than you have a good measurement.
> You don't need 2 stage oscillator for that. Just push pendulum once and see how it climb up many times more then a single input lift or stroke!
And that type behavior have been explained in Physics by Energy Conservation Law! If somebody claim that it can extract work from Pendulum or 2 Stage oscillator Then please publish VIDEO with Energy measurements!
This is no simple oscillation, this is a 2 stage oscillation with a 90 degree change.
I you take a simple spring, hang a weight on it, set it into motion and try to capture it, all you will end up with is a general loss in energy or at best equal.
The point is, if you tap the pendulum's rotational energy like you would normally do, then you will gain nothing.
But if you tap its centrifugal and centripetal pull, then you get many times more.
Well I use that (pendulum and spring) for illustration of Energy Conservation Law (ECL). If somebody claims that Energy Conservation Law can not be applied to Milkovics two stage oscillator as a whole system, then it have to prove that. It have to:
> But to the measurement, ... on the work side it doesn't have to involve any generator or anything.
If you do not produce energy with that machine and if you do not measure it then nobody will use it! You have to show by measurements that this machine produces more usefull energy or work than it uses!
> Well, an official recognition is the last thing that will come out of this, even if there are hundreds of people with positive results.
If you made just ONE, just a single ONE that produces more energy that it uses and if you show VIDEO measurements, that would be enormous success! And if we would have hundreds of that machines in practical application than the whole new industry would emerge! Then it would have practical recognition and then it would come official recognition!
Well, if you had claimed so, then of course, many of the younger and other open minded would believe you, but the spokespersons for the scientific community would call you a fraud!
They simply don't want anything that turns the whole establishment on its back.
But of course, if we had that many working machines, they WOULD have to admit they were wrong in the end. Too many would have replicated it, even though the mythbusters would "disprove" it as normal ;D
If we could have machine that produce energy we could use it in our homes and save money and electrics bills! And if we could do that then the person who would want to disprove that would not be taken seriously!
But the absence of solid overunity evidence (or experiment or applied machine) could not be excuse to call other people sceptics!
And if one call scientists as skeptics it should be equal or above them in knowledge and work! And that is not easy.
You're right, an official recognition is the last thing will come out of this. The nobel prize should go to Bessler and Nikola Tesla and all the free energy "maniacs". You see it's just more beautiful to not give a Nobel prize and everyone just quietly accept it when becomes self evident. This is madness!
I am building a machine that will prove or disprove this theory, once and for all. It is not finished but you can see it on my, you tube, site. Be sure to read the descriptions. It will tell you how it will work to prove or disprove, with no guessing
I really don't have much faith in the flash light test. It requires a pound and a ½ just to get it to move, then it only moves, 5/8 to ¾ of an inch. Their hands are moving a lot farther than ¾" However;; When Milkovic uses the light himself. The light in his hand never lights up & his hand only moves about 6 inches. So; if he is reaching max push to the point of not actually lighting up. He is in putting 6 to 9 inch pounds of energy. Which is exactly what would be needed to light 9 others.
This is beyond "neat". It shows plainly how energy is being amplified by resonance and gravity. The energy required to illuminate one pump generator flashlight is illuminating 9 others. This is not an illusion.
I am going to try this principal attached to the stator arm of my OSPMM.
ur a jackass. of course tesla changed the world. do u use ac or dc in your house? in almost every grid tied house? ac dumbass ac. tesla dumbass tesla.
OMFG. People, are you retarded or something?
"Squeeze flashlight illustration shows that one pumpable flashlight is more than adequate to keep the primary pendulum going which causes secondary oscillations adequate to pump a bank of such flashlights."
How about your hand doing the work moron? That flashlight has an end point for the squeeze and beyond that point it's your hand that does the work. For how long would you be able to keep pushing that weight?
brakaduun 7 months ago
Everybody seems to be missing the power source, gravity, the flashlight starts the motion and the pendulum partially isolates it. Anyone who thinks that gravity violates conservation of energy probably also thinks the planets do not orbit and the world is flat. These pendulums work in the same vein as the large gyroscopic precession generators, tapping into force that we ignore because we take it for granted.
preparehandbook 1 year ago
I am trully amazed that there are hundreds of school dropouts who "see" this as a source of unlimited energy when author himself never said that. Thats because he is NOT stupid, unlike many fat arses on the internet eager to get rich quick.
People - use your time wisely and learn that you can not change laws of nature. If you want to produce output energy from a falling object larger then the input and using earths gravity - then you better come up with some way to slow earth down.
acogymyoutu 1 year ago
@acogymyoutu Hey suggest you study the Lee Sung 'lead out ' Theory. Then reconsider schooling yourself.
buckoff68 1 year ago
My previous statement was wrong, as pointed out by
causevskinikola. Resonance is the key, both mechanically and electrically.
Nabo00o 2 years ago
excellent
causevskinikola 2 years ago
WELL; Ladies and gentalmen.
I finaly built this thing and did many many tests (real weights, real scales, real distances ) and every one of them came out the same.
For every inch pound of energy in. I got 11 inchpounds out. For every foot pound of energy in . 11 foot pounds out. " THEN DAMN THING WORKS "
As far as I am concerned. All you NAY SAYERS can take your Newtonion physcics, stick it in your back pocket and set on it.
RHEAD100 3 years ago 6
@RHEAD100 i supose the output could be used to fill an air tank and the air tank should power the input, i think?
datzfast 1 year ago
@datzfast With out a dought. HELL Yes.
RHEAD100 1 year ago
haha... good luck "disproving" !!
this video speaks for itself & clearly shows that the force of gravity is not conservative.
knowledgeinfo101 3 years ago
No, it does not "clearly" show this.
waseatenbyagrue 3 years ago
If there is something I disliked about Milkovic's examples of testing his units this must be it. You can easly make the bulbs on the other end light without making the one in your hand light, thats because you push it a little slower, then allmost no light is produced, but allmost the same ammount of energy is still transferred to the pendulum.
This thing works though, it is completely reversed from all normal mechanical interactions, when you increase its resistance its efficiency will incr
Nabo00o 3 years ago
"You can easly make the bulbs on the other end light without making the one in your hand light, thats because you push it a little slower, then allmost no light is produced, but allmost the same ammount of energy is still transferred to the pendulum."
I Agree... And you can even add more than one lamp to push the pendulum and we still wont know the amount of input energy! .. Until we measure it! I suggest Ep= m*g*dh (m= pendulum mass, dh = effective pendulum amplitude height differential)
astroshima1 3 years ago
Yes I agree, mass times gravity acceleration will give you its force. Then times height or distance you will get the work it does, then measure it over time and you have energy in versus energy out.
The thing is though, that I think RHEAD here has already done that, and maybe you should ask him what his results are :)
Nabo00o 3 years ago
> The thing is though,
I suggest that for input energy measurements one need to mark pendulum mass center, then to put paper with ruler grid behind pendulum, to use video camera to record heights and to push pendulum LEFT and UP when pendulum fulcrum reach starting (= max height point)!
For output E measurements one need addition to previous: 18 experiments (or 18 Watt meters) for dinamo lamp(s) + Timer recorded by video camera to calculate Work from extrapolated Power Graph(s)...
astroshima1 3 years ago
I think RHEAD here has already done that, and maybe you should ask him what his results are :)
I have asked not just him ...
As soon as some of the people that have this machine do and publish correct and precise Energy VIDEO measurements and if that measurements shows overunity then any Physicist in the world will be able to see it and repeat the test! + somebody gets Nobel praise and a lot of money!
But even if that type of measurements do not show overunity its very useful to publish them!
astroshima1 3 years ago
Well, an official recognition is the last thing that will come out of this, even if there are hundreds of people with positive results.
But if somebody should get a Nobel Prize than of course it should be Veljko Milković :)
But to the measurement, I agree with you on the pendulum side, but on the work side it doesn't have to involve any generator or anything.
You can just record what its weight is, see how high it goes for each turn and see how long it takes, than you have a good measurement.
Nabo00o 3 years ago
> You can just record what its weight is, see how high it goes for each turn and see how long it takes, than you have a good measurement.
That measurement have been done by Jovan Bebic and can be read on veljkomilkovic web site. It shows 22 times "overunity".
But the same "overunity" effect we have with a single pendulum itself! Or with a spring! You don't need 2 stage oscillator for that. Just push pendulum once and see how it climb up many times more then a single input lift or stroke!
astroshima1 3 years ago
> You can just record what its weight is, see how high it goes for each turn and see how long it takes, than you have a good measurement.
> You don't need 2 stage oscillator for that. Just push pendulum once and see how it climb up many times more then a single input lift or stroke!
And that type behavior have been explained in Physics by Energy Conservation Law! If somebody claim that it can extract work from Pendulum or 2 Stage oscillator Then please publish VIDEO with Energy measurements!
astroshima1 3 years ago
No, see that's where the pendulum is different!
This is no simple oscillation, this is a 2 stage oscillation with a 90 degree change.
I you take a simple spring, hang a weight on it, set it into motion and try to capture it, all you will end up with is a general loss in energy or at best equal.
The point is, if you tap the pendulum's rotational energy like you would normally do, then you will gain nothing.
But if you tap its centrifugal and centripetal pull, then you get many times more.
Nabo00o 3 years ago
> No, see that's where the pendulum is different!
Well I use that (pendulum and spring) for illustration of Energy Conservation Law (ECL). If somebody claims that Energy Conservation Law can not be applied to Milkovics two stage oscillator as a whole system, then it have to prove that. It have to:
1. produce that excess energy
2. extract it from oscillator
3. use it for some external(!) useful Work
4. Measure that (external) output work.
5. Measure input work.
Thats the way to disprove ECL.
astroshima1 3 years ago
Resonance is the answer of over unity.
If you take two strings and put the first to oscilate freely with it"s own frequency , you will make free energy.
See my film.
causevskinikola 2 years ago
> But to the measurement, ... on the work side it doesn't have to involve any generator or anything.
If you do not produce energy with that machine and if you do not measure it then nobody will use it! You have to show by measurements that this machine produces more usefull energy or work than it uses!
astroshima1 3 years ago
> Well, an official recognition is the last thing that will come out of this, even if there are hundreds of people with positive results.
If you made just ONE, just a single ONE that produces more energy that it uses and if you show VIDEO measurements, that would be enormous success! And if we would have hundreds of that machines in practical application than the whole new industry would emerge! Then it would have practical recognition and then it would come official recognition!
astroshima1 3 years ago
Well, if you had claimed so, then of course, many of the younger and other open minded would believe you, but the spokespersons for the scientific community would call you a fraud!
They simply don't want anything that turns the whole establishment on its back.
But of course, if we had that many working machines, they WOULD have to admit they were wrong in the end. Too many would have replicated it, even though the mythbusters would "disprove" it as normal ;D
Nabo00o 3 years ago
BTW who cares what some sceptics think?
If we could have machine that produce energy we could use it in our homes and save money and electrics bills! And if we could do that then the person who would want to disprove that would not be taken seriously!
But the absence of solid overunity evidence (or experiment or applied machine) could not be excuse to call other people sceptics!
And if one call scientists as skeptics it should be equal or above them in knowledge and work! And that is not easy.
astroshima1 3 years ago
and billons of new jobs to save the world ecomny
datzfast 2 years ago
No shit we're sinking faster than the Titanic just for Big Business (and their political butt-buddies) to make a buck.
okayillgonow 2 years ago
You're right, an official recognition is the last thing will come out of this. The nobel prize should go to Bessler and Nikola Tesla and all the free energy "maniacs". You see it's just more beautiful to not give a Nobel prize and everyone just quietly accept it when becomes self evident. This is madness!
vietarc 3 years ago
No vietarc; THIS IS SPARTA!
But anyways I see how this can't be overunity, regardless how unbelievable that sounds to me.
okayillgonow 2 years ago
I am building a machine that will prove or disprove this theory, once and for all. It is not finished but you can see it on my, you tube, site. Be sure to read the descriptions. It will tell you how it will work to prove or disprove, with no guessing
RHEAD100 3 years ago
I really don't have much faith in the flash light test. It requires a pound and a ½ just to get it to move, then it only moves, 5/8 to ¾ of an inch. Their hands are moving a lot farther than ¾" However;; When Milkovic uses the light himself. The light in his hand never lights up & his hand only moves about 6 inches. So; if he is reaching max push to the point of not actually lighting up. He is in putting 6 to 9 inch pounds of energy. Which is exactly what would be needed to light 9 others.
RHEAD100 3 years ago
there's no point, as he in fact is pushing pendulum vith his hand!!
alehmuslim 4 years ago
I predict that that experiment would work just as well if the bulb in his squeeze flashlight were burnt out.
starkeffect 4 years ago
This is beyond "neat". It shows plainly how energy is being amplified by resonance and gravity. The energy required to illuminate one pump generator flashlight is illuminating 9 others. This is not an illusion.
I am going to try this principal attached to the stator arm of my OSPMM.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
What's an "OSPMM?" How can mechanical resonance cause energy gain? What can gravity do other than remove energy from a resonantor?
madamerotten 4 years ago
How does a trumpett produce a roar from the squeek produced by lips at the mouthpiece? Resonance.
How does a violin fill an auditorium with sound by dragging a bow across strings that by itself could only be heard a couple of feet away? Resonance.
How is physical energy magnified? Resonance.
ZeroFossilFuel 4 years ago
But none of these systems you mention cause a gain of total energy.
madamerotten 4 years ago
LOL! Like thousands of other Teslas? :))) wake up people
hondica 4 years ago
ur a jackass. of course tesla changed the world. do u use ac or dc in your house? in almost every grid tied house? ac dumbass ac. tesla dumbass tesla.
jjosiahj 4 years ago
OK Tesla was great inventor, but there is too much other "Teslas" on this world, if you understand me.
hondica 4 years ago
Wow. The only comment is "neat". This is a mechanical representation of resonance. This will change the world.
jjosiahj 4 years ago
neat
cheaphardwarez 4 years ago