no, let go of the ledge and immediately jump and air dodge horizontally onto the stage. It takes a while to get the hang of delay since Ganon's dj is slow, but its a great asset. If you get used to doing it as soon as you grab the ledge, you will be able to get a jab/grab off with a frame or 2 (??) of invincibility to spare.
nah man wding takes 11 frames at the very least (1 for input, 10 for landing lag with aerial dodge) and Ganon's jab's hitbox comes out at frame 3, so that's about 14-15 frames. you might have invincibility while you're sliding though.
You can stay invincible with the jab while it hits after the WD if you do everything just right (barely). Grab is too slow for that, but you can cover some of its startup.
WD grab kinda sucks against good people though and you'll generally get hit out of it most or all of the time. I know M2K, Spam, & Cactuar almost always catch me on the WD jab even if I leave like 1 frame open, and the grab has several. If they're close enough to the edge you can also ledgehop grab which is invincible.
i know nothing about any tournaments and neither does gage, we have never been to one. but i doubt it. me and him are still 16 so we have parents to deny our wants:(. and i like playing melee better
well i am very aware of his stats lol and there is a vid of him 3 stocking shiz. gage doesnt mess around,he could give mew2king a run for his money. he has the most amazing DI i have ever fuckin seen. ive watched over 6,000 smash videos and not once did i see anyones DI come close to his. its hard as hell to get combos on him because he techs near everything and DI's out of it. if you watch my videos youll understand. and how old is mew2king? also, do you paly brawl(i dont)
I think he's like 19. I play Brawl for fun, but I prefer playing Melee.
You guys going to that huge Georgia Melee tournament on June 7th & 8th? M2K should be going to it with some other NJ/PA people, but it's a bit too far for me.
i live in jacksonvile and gage is dying to play him. i tihkn they are even from comparing the two of them. his marth is also as dirty as his but they both use black so that sucks lol. have you beat linguini?
Well, I suppose you could make a claim to consider them even if he has won as many nationwide tournaments & also beaten every top placing player from around the country like he has. It's difficult to really judge skill from just vids of people.
Florida right? Has he gotten to play & beat players like Shiz, Chops, KeepSpeedN, or ColBol?
I haven't gotten to play Linguini. He was in the northeast for a few days & was going to attend a NJ tournament then, but he ended up not being able to make it.
where do you live, because my friend wants to play him. i have vids of him(gage) on my profile, he rapes me and i rape all my other friends. how many times did you beat him?
Near Philly. I've known him for 3 years or so I couldn't really tell you how many times I've beaten him. It was easier to win matches before though when he wasn't as beast, lol.
It depends what chars we're using but with his best ones it's pretty rare to win full matches. I can go kind of even with some of his lesser secondaries at least xD
At 0:16 he tried to DD around the f-air so he was holding away to dash when he got hit.
At 0:40 he likely tried to shine out of the tech & was holding down to do it. Good against other char's techchases like Fox/Marth, but bad choice against Ganon.
0:51, dunno. That was just dumb if he thought he could dash away in time.
1:00, prolly thinking sidestep then shine, but then I jumped past him so maybe he went to dash away after.
okay i have 2 things to say, one, inui has very terrible DI as far as i can tell in this vid and two, the reason he was able to charge that upsmash was because ganons electric d-air makes you stay unable to do anything longer
Not sure what you mean. I d-air to charged u-smash to KO Falco, Fox, and CF all the time if it's the right damage where it combos. I landed it on Spamerer's Fox as well in the one Poke Stadium vid from the same day.
Yeah, u can really see the proper usage for both moves in techchasing here. Fwd-B when u are right ontop of them & do it just after they hit the ground, & D-Smash when they are a little in front or behind (turn around) & at the exact time they hit the ground but not b4. Dwn-B also works like the F-B but w/ either's spacing as a finisher.
When done right it leaves them w/ only 1 possible landing option to escape, opposed to ~2-3 options when u use an aerial/grab/etc. It's far more efficient.
His d-air has LOTS of stun. It's a guaranteed kill on most stages off the top on Fox/Falco/CF. I've mentioned it a number of times on the boards but no one else does it for some reason =P
If they're a bit lower in damage, with good timing you can charge into the sideways sending crotch hit for a kill also even if they DI it well. When that thing's charged it's kind of like getting hit by a falcon punch.
lol inui
hgcoolman1 1 year ago
LOL at ending. Good shit Magus.
Disturbed3650 1 year ago
epic
fawful92 1 year ago
one of the worst vids ive seen
m00m00m001 1 year ago
This is shit.
SALCHICHARONES 2 years ago
Teching on the spot vs Ganon is the worst possible thing you could do.
Blackshadow9393 2 years ago
that stomp -> usmash was too sexy.
Vereava 2 years ago
Wow. I saw 1:57 coming from a mile away, but Inui just kinda let it happen O.o
ThaZatzke 2 years ago
hitlag sherlock HIT LAG
BloodFeather 2 years ago
no, its called HIT STUN.
Edge2437 2 years ago
both ways possible
BloodFeather 2 years ago
It was a combo. ^_^
Strongbad338guy 2 years ago
Magus and Kage should have a ganon vs ganon match
lovealltube 2 years ago 2
Lol Ganon's jumping seriously sounds like he's saying "TECH". Yes, Inui, f*cking TECH.
AkashiXI 2 years ago 2
i wanted teh four stock
martyelm 2 years ago
lol Nice DI Inui... not! haha. Way to represent WC!
-Kage
Gallanthor 2 years ago 2
Lol, I think he was told to DI to the sides when Ganon hit him. He was deceived Kage.
TommyTipper 2 years ago
Lol funny thing is he didn't DI that last stomp after showing he's a master of DI'ing away from Ganon haha
oceanwaves83 2 years ago 5
you got up smashed
azianxblah 2 years ago 2
Wow, the last kill was so awesome, I screamed! I love how you apply your own theorical views into your gameplay Magus. That's so cool :)
oakleafs 2 years ago
Tick! Tick! Tick!
CloneHat 2 years ago
beautiful end xD
AshuRawRun 2 years ago
I love how the people saying his DI was bad would of died from those fairs as well.
lulzmeister1105 3 years ago
everybody dies from a Ganon Fair.
it's a simple universal truth.
popertop 2 years ago 6
i love when ganon laughs like that in the winner's screen
Zialox 3 years ago
wow!
katzy687 3 years ago
Magus, you're so freaken amazing!
martyelm 3 years ago
damn something was wrong with Inui's DI, still great rape :D!
love the last kill
Angamu069 3 years ago
Holy Hell! O_O rAAAAAAAApe.
And Magus, how in the hell do you wavedash onto the stage with Ganon? Is it because of YS's slopes?
src1227 3 years ago
no, let go of the ledge and immediately jump and air dodge horizontally onto the stage. It takes a while to get the hang of delay since Ganon's dj is slow, but its a great asset. If you get used to doing it as soon as you grab the ledge, you will be able to get a jab/grab off with a frame or 2 (??) of invincibility to spare.
oceanwaves83 3 years ago
Awesome, thanks a lot.
src1227 3 years ago
nah man wding takes 11 frames at the very least (1 for input, 10 for landing lag with aerial dodge) and Ganon's jab's hitbox comes out at frame 3, so that's about 14-15 frames. you might have invincibility while you're sliding though.
Strongbad338guy 3 years ago
You can stay invincible with the jab while it hits after the WD if you do everything just right (barely). Grab is too slow for that, but you can cover some of its startup.
WD grab kinda sucks against good people though and you'll generally get hit out of it most or all of the time. I know M2K, Spam, & Cactuar almost always catch me on the WD jab even if I leave like 1 frame open, and the grab has several. If they're close enough to the edge you can also ledgehop grab which is invincible.
Magus420 3 years ago
OH MY GOD at that last 8 seconds. Down-b to avoid up-air into dair -> fully charged upsmash.
Magus... I love you that was too sexy!
Teczer0 3 years ago
<3 raping people for good spacing. xD
Magus420 3 years ago
:(
I lost count how many times you side-b/down-b my marth for d-tilting >_>
Teczer0 3 years ago
ganon for president
Geobat 3 years ago
ganon for top tier
quesote20 3 years ago
Down throw+Side b+down smash
bravo
ShortRoundMcFly72 3 years ago
finally another chrono trigger fan
shadowbowser2008 3 years ago
i think a rape counselor was need after the match for fox.
good vid.
Mainac666 3 years ago 2
LOL at the 68% kill in the beginning.
'Too good
enigmastar342 3 years ago
Inui please start DI man!
maxisku2 3 years ago
i know nothing about any tournaments and neither does gage, we have never been to one. but i doubt it. me and him are still 16 so we have parents to deny our wants:(. and i like playing melee better
Looc105 3 years ago
well i am very aware of his stats lol and there is a vid of him 3 stocking shiz. gage doesnt mess around,he could give mew2king a run for his money. he has the most amazing DI i have ever fuckin seen. ive watched over 6,000 smash videos and not once did i see anyones DI come close to his. its hard as hell to get combos on him because he techs near everything and DI's out of it. if you watch my videos youll understand. and how old is mew2king? also, do you paly brawl(i dont)
Looc105 3 years ago
I think he's like 19. I play Brawl for fun, but I prefer playing Melee.
You guys going to that huge Georgia Melee tournament on June 7th & 8th? M2K should be going to it with some other NJ/PA people, but it's a bit too far for me.
Magus420 3 years ago
i live in jacksonvile and gage is dying to play him. i tihkn they are even from comparing the two of them. his marth is also as dirty as his but they both use black so that sucks lol. have you beat linguini?
Looc105 3 years ago
Well, I suppose you could make a claim to consider them even if he has won as many nationwide tournaments & also beaten every top placing player from around the country like he has. It's difficult to really judge skill from just vids of people.
Florida right? Has he gotten to play & beat players like Shiz, Chops, KeepSpeedN, or ColBol?
I haven't gotten to play Linguini. He was in the northeast for a few days & was going to attend a NJ tournament then, but he ended up not being able to make it.
Magus420 3 years ago
where do you live, because my friend wants to play him. i have vids of him(gage) on my profile, he rapes me and i rape all my other friends. how many times did you beat him?
Looc105 3 years ago
Near Philly. I've known him for 3 years or so I couldn't really tell you how many times I've beaten him. It was easier to win matches before though when he wasn't as beast, lol.
It depends what chars we're using but with his best ones it's pretty rare to win full matches. I can go kind of even with some of his lesser secondaries at least xD
Magus420 3 years ago
yeah and magus, what was it like fighting mew2king
Looc105 3 years ago
He's really fun to play, especially when we both try to land crazy/funny stuff on the other. I see him pretty often since he's near me.
Magus420 3 years ago
no oyu dont die from it maybe 80 but from near the ledge. terrible DI
Looc105 3 years ago
Okay. Yes, his DI was pretty bad. He does not main Fox & messed up some things that against Ganon get you raped when you do.
Magus420 3 years ago
At 0:16 he tried to DD around the f-air so he was holding away to dash when he got hit.
At 0:40 he likely tried to shine out of the tech & was holding down to do it. Good against other char's techchases like Fox/Marth, but bad choice against Ganon.
0:51, dunno. That was just dumb if he thought he could dash away in time.
1:00, prolly thinking sidestep then shine, but then I jumped past him so maybe he went to dash away after.
1:16, prolly tried to shine on getup again.
Magus420 3 years ago
he dies from a Fair at 59% fuckin terrible.
Looc105 3 years ago
Terrible DI
D:
SSBMeta 3 years ago
well thats a Ganon Fair, also known as The Trainwrecker. unleashing such a move on someone as puny as fox on yoshi story can be lethal.
oceanwaves83 3 years ago 3
okay i have 2 things to say, one, inui has very terrible DI as far as i can tell in this vid and two, the reason he was able to charge that upsmash was because ganons electric d-air makes you stay unable to do anything longer
Looc105 3 years ago
well that, and fox has the fastest falling acceleration of any character in melee (falcon/falco are have the highest top speed)
oceanwaves83 3 years ago
that last kill was made on purpose :/
yttuty 3 years ago
Not sure what you mean. I d-air to charged u-smash to KO Falco, Fox, and CF all the time if it's the right damage where it combos. I landed it on Spamerer's Fox as well in the one Poke Stadium vid from the same day.
Magus420 3 years ago
After watching this I see how badly Ganondorf was really screwed in brawl. :((((
WARLOCK262 3 years ago 10
@WARLOCK262 After watching this I see how badly Brawl was screwed compared to melee
Oldenuf 1 year ago
Might not be a fox player, but his DI was terrible...........
yamahahahahahahahaha 3 years ago
ganon rock !!! :D
MasterMario007 3 years ago 3
Leaf has a hard time convincing me he is good after watching this shit.
Nice vid Magus.
FalconofECW 3 years ago
Yaay Magus!
Ganon's my best and I learned some stuff form your videos...
kragemonkey 4 years ago
dthrow -> over b -> dsmash
magus you are a genius
ssbmvidman 4 years ago
Yeah, u can really see the proper usage for both moves in techchasing here. Fwd-B when u are right ontop of them & do it just after they hit the ground, & D-Smash when they are a little in front or behind (turn around) & at the exact time they hit the ground but not b4. Dwn-B also works like the F-B but w/ either's spacing as a finisher.
When done right it leaves them w/ only 1 possible landing option to escape, opposed to ~2-3 options when u use an aerial/grab/etc. It's far more efficient.
Magus420 4 years ago
Amazing Magus, simply amazing. I loved that last kill. I should go learn just how long the stun is for Dair at various percentages.
cluelessbtd 4 years ago
Magus! You owe me a Ganon ditto, dude!
WhatBadGod 4 years ago
I'm guessing Inui isn't really a Fox player.
RadicallyDreaming 4 years ago 3
magus you sex beast we should hang out morez i misses you. funny shit @ the end and lawl@lucas' tech skill. so much of it.
xeorogue 4 years ago
I liked how Ganon screamed with Fox in the end XD
LAHARL777 4 years ago 2
my fucking god magus, how in the world did that last kill work >.>
xchanstar 4 years ago
His d-air has LOTS of stun. It's a guaranteed kill on most stages off the top on Fox/Falco/CF. I've mentioned it a number of times on the boards but no one else does it for some reason =P
If they're a bit lower in damage, with good timing you can charge into the sideways sending crotch hit for a kill also even if they DI it well. When that thing's charged it's kind of like getting hit by a falcon punch.
Magus420 4 years ago
I didn't know it had THAT much stun. o__O
sweetxignorance 4 years ago
Wow. Inui has fantastic DI. /sarcasm.
veedee1307 4 years ago
Yeah, I think just about every f/b-air that hit he was trying to dash away or something, lol
Magus420 4 years ago
The combo at the end always feels so fucking great when it hits =)
Magus420 4 years ago
Haha. I hear you. Great play on your part too.
veedee1307 4 years ago