Did Christ die for all Pt. 1- Israel shall be saved

[supervirtuouswoman]

First of all, It was never Christ word, it was Yah's word. Christ went against a lot of things that yah said. Yah said that he change not, so how can a "christ" be your saviour? People ignore what yah said and listen to what a Christ say.

[Thebibleconsultant]

@supervirtuouswoman Please understand that Yah and Yahshua is not in conflict but in agreement. refer to John 5:19-20 (this makes it clear that he did what he saw the Most High do and what he was taught by Yah), Matthew 7:21 (this text would have made it impossible for Yahshua to enter heaven if he didn't do the will of Yah), John 10:30 (this text help us to understand that the Father and the son have the same objective). I hope you receive understanding in Yahshua's name.

[supervirtuouswoman]

Shalom Ahk, but Christ did not die for anyone. Hosea 13:4 and Hosea 3:4 Yah tells us that no man can die for you and Yah is the only saviour, not christ. The way to destruction is broad because Christ is the way to destruction. Read your old testament.

[AaronTrutsJC]

@supervirtuouswoman asians, whites, blacks, latinos and every other race can attend church and go to heaven.

[Thebibleconsultant]

@AaronTrutsJC Please refer to John 3:13 to gain a better understanding of "people in heaven". Also, refer to Acts 17:24 & Ephesians 2:18-22 for a better understanding of what the church is. Peace in the name of Yahshua.

[okyupsure]

@supervirtuouswoman .......what in the world are you talking about???????

your saying the Ot says not to trust in The Most High Son and that he is a road to destruction???? what???? pls qoute the scripture that poves this!!!!!!

[Thebibleconsultant]

@supervirtuouswoman Hosea 13:4 is letting us know that Yah is the savior and always will be as explained in Isaiah 63:15-16. Hosea 3:4 is helping us understand the state that our people will be in the latter days (Present). Here is some more old testament, Psalm 80:12-17 & 110:1-7 (this refers to the one on the right hand of Yah). Deuteronomy 18:17-19 & I Chronicles17:11-14 (These verses let us know that Moses, Nathan and David knew of Yahshua). Read Isaiah 9:6-7 the prophesy of Yahshua. Peace!

[andyandyband]

is that a garth brook mic? madonna mike? or a jesus mic? or a man mic? HAHA.. yeah yeah! look at :28. later should i call you brother?

[DEE4522]

Bless you Brother proclaim the truth maybe it will set some free.Time is running out Yahushua is on his way. he is coming back for his children those that love him in spirit and in truth. He sees the heart of every person ever born. I am glad No flesh will be in heaven and happy there is no color in the spirit. Blessing to you.

[DEE4522]

God bless you Brother. I am so glad to know that our spirit doesn't have a color. We are known by the fruit of the spirit not the color of the skin. it was truly a blessing to listen to you.peace and love to you. hang on to him and never be swayed.

[whitemanisthedevil]

10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matt.10:5-7

[whitemanisthedevil]

4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.  John4:21-23

[Profit613]

LOL, Tahar you're still quoting scriputre out of context and telling half the story. Even after getting corrected on this?

"For salvation IS OF the Jews"...what does the word "OF" mean in this scripture?

[whitemanisthedevil]

@Profit613 You're an edomite,so we know you're not going to be saved.

[Profit613]

@WHITEMAN, NO NO NOOO. I hear that you are really a whiteman...real spit. The video about your grandaddy could be comming any day.

...care to comment on John 4:22?...after all you're the one who tried to use it on this christian brother.

Is this where you've been hiding lately?...while your little unlearned boys are simply cussing all over you tube.

[whitemanisthedevil]

@Profit613 answer this esau, 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. 11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Dan11:33-35?

[Profit613]

Read 1Macc chapter 1 for your answer...(I will give u the benefit of the doubt. But I'm guessing that you think this is speaking about today).

[whitemanisthedevil]

@Profit613 2 Esdras (Apoc)11:31 And, behold, the head was turned with them that were with it, and did eat up the two feathers under the wing that would have reigned.

What does this mean,esau?

[okyupsure]

@whitemanisthedevil ...........Esau was hebrew and spoke hebrew, and accordng to the bhi's the only ppl on the earth at that time before esau was bon were black...so tell me what colour were esau's wives?

[whitemanisthedevil]

@Profit613 Whats up,esau?

[whitemanisthedevil]

@Profit613 Whats up esau?

[whitemanisthedevil]

@Profit613 ἐκ Biblical Usage 1) out of, from, by, away from

Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 921 AV — of 366, from 181, out of 162, by 55, on 34, with 25, misc 98

[Profit613]

Alright, Good! (as you always say). Now you now that Salvation is something that can only be attained FROM the Jews as Mashiach told this Samaritan woman at the well.

You're being honest. Now you need to adjust your teachings accordingly. Just "think Law":

Deut 4:5-8

[whitemanisthedevil]

@Profit613 Will edomites sit side by side

with Israelites in the Kingdom?

[Profit613]

WHITEMAN, Only Israel will rule in the kingdom.

But you're not going to be there unless you repent and start teaching the WHOLE TRUTH of the Scriptures.

[okyupsure]

@Profit613 ..........who is Isreal??? think befoe you answer this one!

[ohgodhell2pay]

How do you kno jesus really said that??? Did u talk to him? did u talk God? It must be a faith thing huh LOL The bible itself is the devil because it starts arguments between people over something not proving. wake up!!! U shouldnt need a book to kno right from wrong.

[djthriller82]

very powerful message with great information. well done, praise god

[antidote2010]

Well, you choose and pick questions to answer, ignoring my questions, but throughout our debates, you have remained civil, courteous and non-judgmental. And for that--I have respect for you.

Merry Christmas!

[antidote2010]

In conclusion, I see that there is no point in debating someone who is deeply religious. It's futile to inject reasoning in an arena, where none is required. At the end of the day, you will believe what you choose to believe, despite the glaring absurdities, dichotomies, controversies and contradictions of religious dogma.

[antidote2010]

Can you please answer my question?

Do you think--scripture aside--all non-christian people should end up in a fiery hell for eternity? Please answer the question with a yes or no. I don't want to read exerts from the Bible. Just a simple personal opinion is what I'm asking for.

[antidote2010]

I don't subscribe to the antiquated idea of heaven and hell, but if they were real--I'd say that most humans should be in heaven.

It's out of fear that Christians amongst other religions--fail to criticize absurd ideas in their faiths.

At the very least--human criminals are afforded food, shelter and basic health care. I suppose--based on Biblical notions--humans have more mercy than the Abrahamic God. Religion enslaves the mind; incapacitating the faculties of reason.

Happy holidays!

[antidote2010]

I find that most Christians go to church on Sundays, because they're terrified to end up in the imaginary "Hell."

It's interesting how a person can believe that a "Just and loving God" would condemn most of humanity to eternal agony in a fiery hell.

The Abrahamic God has been endowed with humanistic vices--vindictiveness, jealousy, wrath, totalitarianism, brutality and genocidal tendencies. It is further evidence that the three Abrahamic books were written by and for people.

[gilbertd2]

Is it hard to believe that America has a death penalty for evil criminals? If a man killed your loved one for no cause, or raped your wife or molested your child, all for no cause, what penalty should that man get? Ask yourself, are you greater than God? What happens to the wicked if there is no hell? Do we all end up in the same place, both good and evil? give me answers to these, for if you can not then you must accept that hell is real!

[antidote2010]

Are you comparing the majority of humanity, which happens to be non-Christian to evil criminals?

Your Bible claims that there is no salvation, other than accepting Jesus Christ as one's savior. That leaves the majority of people to languish in a fiery hell, in perpetual torment and pain.

According to you, do the majority of people, who happen to be non-Christian--mostly due to country of birth or family religion--deserve to burn in hell for eternity? Are they evil for being non-Christian?

[gilbertd2]

Let me give you an example: Have ever sinned or do you sin?

[antidote2010]

All humans qualify as sinners, and qualifying difference between Christians and non-Christians is faith. At the core of Christianity is the notion that people are judged based on their adherence to the idea that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and that he is the only pathway to salvation. The rest of humanity automatically goes to a fiery hell--for eternity. (But God "Loves everyone")

How do you wrap your head around such cruel notions of "Justice?" It's mind-boggling!

[gilbertd2]

antidote2010: you said "All humans qualify as sinners" let me ask you: what is a sinner? & what should be the penalty of a sinner? Should a sinner go to heaven? If yes, then why?

[antidote2010]

A sinner--according to the Bible--is one who transgressed against the tenets of Christianity.

Religion divides humans based on their adherence to a specific faith, but Christians are just as sinful as non-Christians. However, your religion claims that they will have a chance at salvation solely through adherence to the notion of Jesus Christ as their "Savior."

I think burning someone for a second is cruel. Do you think that the majority of people deserve to end up in hell--for eternity?

[gilbertd2]

antidote2010: Thats not what the bible says - according to the bible all have sinned and fallen short of the glory OF GOD! We have sinned against God! Also, you are correct about sinners and christians. the only difference between the sinner and the christian is the grace and mercy of god we recieve through our faith in Jesus Christ. We are not saved because we are good or bad. Jesus is the solution to the sin problem. Now why would someone hate a message like that! we all can have it!

[todayfaith]

Try reading the 66 book's from the Bible.

He said before you see the Kindom of God, you

must be born again, not in the flesh, but through the Holy Spirit.

[todayfaith]

God said when I come back, first for the Jew's

Then the Gentile's.

[gilbertd2]

todayfaith: Yes, Jesus returned when he rose from the dead! Thats why Peter and Paul took the gospel to both the Jews and the gentiles!

[todayfaith]

He said that in the second coming.

We are wating for the second time now & he said he would first go to the Jew's & then the Gentile's

[gilbertd2174]

He did not say he would return the second time he said when he return. When he was speaking to the disciples about His return he was speaking of his ressurection, he did not say second return.

[dannybammy]

That's the problem you don't believe, but you don't know?

Stop believeing and start knowing their's a god.

[korzon]

Flesh does not matter to GOD.Only men care about the flesh.

[vudumojo]

What are trying to get around to saying, that the original 144,000 children of Israel spoken of in the great white throne judgment being an exact number, and then after that, the multitube which could not even be numbered-which were those that came out of great tribulation who are blameless through faith in Jesus, heirs to the throne, descendants of Abraham, the NEW children of Israel, and if anyone think himself to be a Jew today, he will do it the same way, through faith in Jesus by grace?

[zappaelcrappa]

I don't believe that the 144,000 is a literal number.144,000 = completeness Also the 12 tribes = the new Israel (The christian church)This is most likely not generally excepted but never the less its what ive researched.

[vudumojo]

OK, so zappaelcrappa, you feel that the Christian church IS now Israel of this age, so then, what of the "Current State of Israel" and what not?

What is your feelings on that then?

There are a lot of TV preachers who agree with that 100% and say support Israel, et cetera.

[zappaelcrappa]

The only thing i can say is there are some in Israel who are waiting for the Messiah and some who believe he has already come, and of course there are those who dont believe at all. Thank you for the kind question. Blessings!

[gilbertd2]

no, to support Israel and not Africa or Poland or Russia or any other country is wrong. We should not put Israel above other nations. The Israel of God today is the remnant "the church" we are the Elect of God, the chosen, a royal priesthood!

[vudumojo]

Then we're reading from the same Bible because mine says the same thing!

That makes me a little suspicious that this new "state" of Israel made possible by the billionaire Rothschild family, might just be a scam to take advantage of a likely misinterpretation of the Word of God!

I think they're building the Temple for the antichrist.

We'd better learn to get food without without purchasing it right now...