Great video! Clients really don't realize how hard it is to groom. Especially aggressive dogs. Even after watching this video, people will think that we (as groomers) should do something different (nicer) Lol they just will never understand until they groom one themselves. (Which is something we do at our salon with owners with aggressive dogs) They usually leave with such a huge new found respect for us.
Would you correct the dog if he starts showing aggressive behavior? Or would that make it worse? (like a quick "no" or "ah-ah" if he shows his teeth or growls) I feel like that would show him you won't tolerate it before he gets up the steam to actually bite.
A great little book is "On Talking Terms with Dogs: Calming Signals" by Turid Rugaas (from Hungary I believe but book available in US at Dogwise.) Lots of great pictures to examine and see what his various stress signals are. It will help immeasurably to learn to read him as well as your other clients. Good luck!
The dog first politely tells you that he is uncomfortable. Looking away, blinking eyes. Then he puckers, showing he's getting annoyed. Lifting his lips was clear, fair warning. If he wanted to nail you, he would have. Dogs just are faster than people. He used bite inhibition. Talk to the owner. See if you can get her to at least leave his head alone. Also some body language training might help you both.
Sad that most groomers cannot read body language. This dog gives very clear warnings that it is not happy. Lip curl, showing teeth, both are warnings and both are being ignored by groomer...this is what leads to a bite. Not the dogs fault, he is clearly stating his feelings. And NO, punsihment doesn't work to change emotional responses, so Cesar would be the last one to help this dog.
I don't think that she missed the signs. The more relevant point is, should she just stop working on the dog because he shows his teeth? Leave the dog half finished because he shows signs of anxiety? Just because he's showing the signs of aggression doesn't mean the groomer can do anything about it but keep working and learn how to dodge.
@aardhorde No, groomers owe it the dogs to understand behavior and signs of stress and fear and educate their clients on how to help the dog overcome them so that they do not have to go through this stress/fear. Being forced does not make the situation better and if anything will make it worse...the dog may just bite with no warning because it has learned that warnings don't get them relief. Respect the dog.
As others have said, there are warnings. For example, I saw the dog licking its lips at one point. This can be a way for the dog to try and stop things from carrying on. The dog also lifts its lips a few different times. A warning doesn't have to be huge for it to count.
He gives warning - that lip lift? That's a warning. Also, this is how us groomers clip dogs by accident - by haphazardly shaving in different directions.
I agree 100% on shaving him down!! I am also a pet groomer and the dogs that need that x~tra help with the pills from the vet are better off being groomed a few times a year. It is so stressful on the dog! Why put the dog through more trauma trying to make it a "cutesie" cut when the dog will just have to turn around and get back in 5-6wks. My heart is with my dogs and what they can handle without being totally strapped down, muzzled and having a nervous breakdown on my table.
The reason he gets shaved down is because his owner wants it that way, He gets groomed 4 times a year...he also takes doggie downers the the veterinarian sends for him. if you look at my other grooming videos , you will see well groomed dogs...I hate shaving them, that's not fun.
@krsusa ...I do as my client asks...she likes him shaved down..all.. if you look at my regular everyday grooms you will see IMAGINATION. I can't believe you would make a comment like that. I dont know how long you have been grooming for, but is my client asks me to shave their dog.. because the dog hates getting groomed and after drawing blood from 3 other groomers in town....I totally agree with her, get him done and I will see him again in 3 to 4 months. :)
You are absolutely right. You do what the client wants, period, when it comes to scissor cuts or shavedowns. You did a very good job in doing a fast and efficient shavedown that didn't stress the dog out. Ignore people who tell you a good groomer doesn't shave a dog. Screw that. A good groomer does what the client Wants (within reason of course), and also takes into account the dog and client's needs.
@floridabikergirl You are correct in shaving him. an aggressive dog doesn't have the patience to be brushed out. The quicker and less trauma the better with hard dogs. Also the main thing I use in doing difficult dogs is emotions. Look up videos by Rupert Sheldrake and you will see he has done actual experiments showing that dogs, people and many conscious beings are linked by what he calls a morphagenic field.
It may sound goofy but I have found that without a doubt your emotional state has a major effect on a dog. I groom many dogs that no one else will do. no muzzles and no drugs. Good job keep up the good work and maybe us groomers who can do this will aid those who cant. I've seen some very brutal and unnecessary methods used in the past and would like to make a thing of the past.
gismo totally looks like there's pekinese or japanese chin mixed in. I have an ill behaved lhasa and I warn people who try and pet him: lhasa may look like shih-tzus but are the mean versions!
gismo totally looks like there's pekinese or japanese chin mixed in. I have an ill behaved lhasa and I warn people who try and pet him: lhasa may look like shih-tzus but are the mean versions!
Great video! Clients really don't realize how hard it is to groom. Especially aggressive dogs. Even after watching this video, people will think that we (as groomers) should do something different (nicer) Lol they just will never understand until they groom one themselves. (Which is something we do at our salon with owners with aggressive dogs) They usually leave with such a huge new found respect for us.
dolfinstar72 2 weeks ago
Would you correct the dog if he starts showing aggressive behavior? Or would that make it worse? (like a quick "no" or "ah-ah" if he shows his teeth or growls) I feel like that would show him you won't tolerate it before he gets up the steam to actually bite.
lissamiss 5 months ago
He's just angry his owner wants him to have such a hideous hair cut.
ZephyrhillsSS 5 months ago
A great little book is "On Talking Terms with Dogs: Calming Signals" by Turid Rugaas (from Hungary I believe but book available in US at Dogwise.) Lots of great pictures to examine and see what his various stress signals are. It will help immeasurably to learn to read him as well as your other clients. Good luck!
supernaturalbc2009 6 months ago
The dog first politely tells you that he is uncomfortable. Looking away, blinking eyes. Then he puckers, showing he's getting annoyed. Lifting his lips was clear, fair warning. If he wanted to nail you, he would have. Dogs just are faster than people. He used bite inhibition. Talk to the owner. See if you can get her to at least leave his head alone. Also some body language training might help you both.
missmolliepink 6 months ago 3
Sad that most groomers cannot read body language. This dog gives very clear warnings that it is not happy. Lip curl, showing teeth, both are warnings and both are being ignored by groomer...this is what leads to a bite. Not the dogs fault, he is clearly stating his feelings. And NO, punsihment doesn't work to change emotional responses, so Cesar would be the last one to help this dog.
aerothepharo 6 months ago
@aerothepharo
I don't think that she missed the signs. The more relevant point is, should she just stop working on the dog because he shows his teeth? Leave the dog half finished because he shows signs of anxiety? Just because he's showing the signs of aggression doesn't mean the groomer can do anything about it but keep working and learn how to dodge.
aardhorde 5 months ago
@aardhorde No, groomers owe it the dogs to understand behavior and signs of stress and fear and educate their clients on how to help the dog overcome them so that they do not have to go through this stress/fear. Being forced does not make the situation better and if anything will make it worse...the dog may just bite with no warning because it has learned that warnings don't get them relief. Respect the dog.
aerothepharo 5 months ago
As others have said, there are warnings. For example, I saw the dog licking its lips at one point. This can be a way for the dog to try and stop things from carrying on. The dog also lifts its lips a few different times. A warning doesn't have to be huge for it to count.
NessaLuzzette 6 months ago
Ooooooh the teeth of doom!! I see those from time to time while grooming. Good job keeping your cool though!
lameasscatlady 6 months ago
Are those the andes 5 speed clippers? Thinking of getting a pair how you like them? Great job by the way
0815ank 6 months ago
What kind of clippers are you using?
mick0880 8 months ago
He gives warning - that lip lift? That's a warning. Also, this is how us groomers clip dogs by accident - by haphazardly shaving in different directions.
noodlesmadison 8 months ago
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mclacher67 9 months ago
I agree 100% on shaving him down!! I am also a pet groomer and the dogs that need that x~tra help with the pills from the vet are better off being groomed a few times a year. It is so stressful on the dog! Why put the dog through more trauma trying to make it a "cutesie" cut when the dog will just have to turn around and get back in 5-6wks. My heart is with my dogs and what they can handle without being totally strapped down, muzzled and having a nervous breakdown on my table.
mclacher67 9 months ago
The reason he gets shaved down is because his owner wants it that way, He gets groomed 4 times a year...he also takes doggie downers the the veterinarian sends for him. if you look at my other grooming videos , you will see well groomed dogs...I hate shaving them, that's not fun.
floridabikergirl 9 months ago
Look closer, he does warn you. He is lifting his lips showing the teeth over and over and over.. thats a warning!
Ixxithedog 10 months ago
Cesar Milan would fix this in five seconds haha. Good job handling him tho :)
2crayzjumperz 10 months ago
Lhasas have beautiful long hair. A good groomer will use better imagination than simply shaving all the hair.
krsusa 11 months ago
@krsusa ...I do as my client asks...she likes him shaved down..all.. if you look at my regular everyday grooms you will see IMAGINATION. I can't believe you would make a comment like that. I dont know how long you have been grooming for, but is my client asks me to shave their dog.. because the dog hates getting groomed and after drawing blood from 3 other groomers in town....I totally agree with her, get him done and I will see him again in 3 to 4 months. :)
floridabikergirl 9 months ago 2
@floridabikergirl
You are absolutely right. You do what the client wants, period, when it comes to scissor cuts or shavedowns. You did a very good job in doing a fast and efficient shavedown that didn't stress the dog out. Ignore people who tell you a good groomer doesn't shave a dog. Screw that. A good groomer does what the client Wants (within reason of course), and also takes into account the dog and client's needs.
aardhorde 5 months ago
@floridabikergirl You are correct in shaving him. an aggressive dog doesn't have the patience to be brushed out. The quicker and less trauma the better with hard dogs. Also the main thing I use in doing difficult dogs is emotions. Look up videos by Rupert Sheldrake and you will see he has done actual experiments showing that dogs, people and many conscious beings are linked by what he calls a morphagenic field.
HeidisMobileDogGroom 4 months ago
It may sound goofy but I have found that without a doubt your emotional state has a major effect on a dog. I groom many dogs that no one else will do. no muzzles and no drugs. Good job keep up the good work and maybe us groomers who can do this will aid those who cant. I've seen some very brutal and unnecessary methods used in the past and would like to make a thing of the past.
HeidisMobileDogGroom 4 months ago
i think u did real good w/ him :)
brittneybooski 11 months ago
gismo totally looks like there's pekinese or japanese chin mixed in. I have an ill behaved lhasa and I warn people who try and pet him: lhasa may look like shih-tzus but are the mean versions!
jaylin4dc 1 year ago
gismo totally looks like there's pekinese or japanese chin mixed in. I have an ill behaved lhasa and I warn people who try and pet him: lhasa may look like shih-tzus but are the mean versions!
jaylin4dc 1 year ago
Looks more like a Peke/Lhasa mix....
auntiemartas 1 year ago
believe it or not, this Lhasa is mean!! he snaps out of the blue...scary for him and me!!
floridabikergirl 1 year ago
I have to get a purse now!
NinaPoodle 1 year ago