Im sorry dude, but you are full of crap. You personally might not be about violence, but here in california the vegan extremists are not supportive and not compassionate and are violent, both in actions and words. So speak for yourself, but don't go painting this bullshit picture of vegans all being compassionate supportive people. Thats a load of garbage.
@Davesca14ers There are extremist in every group. As a matter of fact some people are born crazy. Doesn't make them all that way. Look at Loma Linda California. 95% of the population is Vegan and doesn't drink caffeine. They live the longest out of any city in the U.S. and have the lowest crime rate. The stats do not lie and you my friend are trying to paint the extremist has mainstream to further your agenda whatever that may be.
How about a positive message and stop going out of your way to attack others. Human beings have the power of discernment and everyone will figure it out in their own time. Your videos make my head hurt, and carry an energy about them that is more dense than I have time to watch anymore of. There is no reason to find others faults unless you are not willing to face your own. "To change reality you must change yourself. Your internal self reflects and becomes your external world. This is the key"
this asshole durian never gets tired of go round and round in circles like a broken gramophone about his banana-carb nonsence...Im sure he will erase me like a "weed"....it doesnt matter mate,youll be na asshole with or without "weeds"...and no,Im not going to complain and spread your "glory"on other places,as you expect from the "weeds"...go smash some more enemies,how perfect you are!
Shooting an animal with a gun made in a factory isn't natural? OK. Riding a bike made in a factory isn't natural either dipshit. God, you make it too easy to own you sometimes.
@xxFairestxx I'm not a vegan. And if you call blocking people so they can't respond "owning", then you have a fucked up view of being owned. I call it being a coward who knows his stance is weak. It's like the sandbox, and that kid who would take his toys and go home when things didn't go his way.
@SCROGY Thing is bro, veganism is proven as the healthiest way to eat. Meat and dairy are unhealthy. Proven. Eat it if you want, but you're wrong. I am a body builder, I do gymnastics and I'm a 17yr martial artist and I build perfectly. He knows he's right, because he is...you're just ignorant. Get off his vids moron.
@xxFairestxx No it's not. There is no evidence that vegans live longer than HEALTHY meat eaters. And that means PALEO eaters. WHY? Because processed meat is filled with toxic Nitrites and when they compare SAD dieters to (That's what they WRONGLY call meat eaters) vegans it skews the results. I'll tell you what. I bet a famous vegan doctor that he couldn't find a SINGLE study that compares vegans to Paleo eaters. One that CERTIFIES the meat eaters ONLY ate Paleo. He addmitted defeat.....
@xxFairestxx Tell you what. If you can find a study that PROVES for 100% certain that vegans outlive Paleo eaters, I'll leave. But you have to find one that you can prove to me certifies the meat eaters NEVER ate processed meats (Wieners, Salami, Pepperoni etc). You can talk all the shit you want little man, but until you find such a study, I'll be right here. I don't care if you or he thinks he's right. PROVE you're right or fuck the hell off.
@xxFairestxx Oh and one last thing. I work with chemicals. I treat water with chemicals and one of the chemicals I use is called Sodium Nitrite. It is used as a preservative in PROCESSED meats. It's also used to keep boiler pipes from corroding!!! It is a WHMIS controlled chemical that causes cancer with long term exposure. Now tell me how ANY study that doesn't discern between natural meat and processed meats can be taken seriously. Go ahead pal. I want to hear your explanation. Moron.
@SCROGY Bro, you're in my territory. Nutrition, fitness, body building...I don't have to prove shit to you. I know what's fact and I have it on my side. Research it yourself you lazy, typical american fuck. Ignoring you, not because I think you're right, but because I have no time to flood your inbox. I take off my shirt and go to training; that is proof enough for me. However, I also have nutritional science on my side. Cya you mad little fatty. (not assuming. you ARE unhealthy)
@xxFairestxx Ok. 1) You assumed I am American. I'm not. So we know you aren't intelligent enough NOT to assume things. 2) I have been researching and training 10 years LONGER than you have been on this planet. 3) Don't place the onus on me. It's on YOU since you made the claim. That's debating 101 son. But I already know that such a study doesn't exist so I'll save you the time spent proving yourself wrong. 4) ANY TIME you want to get together and train there's a free room for you here.
@SCROGY "Sigh"...so blocking you doesn't block comments. How very upsetting...but anyway, "son" (?) 10 years longer? I'm 24 years old. If you just happen to be 34 and you spend your days watching videos about things you don't like on the internet...get a life. I started martial arts at 3 1/2...so thats about 21 years of constant involvment...and I started triathlons at 14. No man, you haven't been. Quit trying to get a foothold in this topic and go research it yourself.
@xxFairestxx I'm not actually 34, I'm older but I look 20 years younger than my age, and I didn't get that way being vegan. I don't post my real info for security reasons on any site. I'm a BJJ purple belt under a couple of Sylviho Behring black belts (He's a facebook friend so I can prove it). As far as getting a foothold, I don't need one. I have spent more time researching than you've been on this planet, and there is ZERO evidence that vegans live longer than strict Paleo eaters. FACT.
@SCROGY Many athletes go vegan and experience dramatic results. FACT is, going vegan DOES improve performance...like it or not. Get over the fact that vegans are going to look down on your poor diet choices and get on with it. We'd respect you more if you didn't try to argue and just accepted that we don't agree with you and moved on. I doubt your 34 because you're rather immature. Quit responding to me and do something worthy of your time.
@xxFairestxx Not that age=maturity actually, so you very well may be 34. Beside the point though. A diet consisting of meat and dairy IS going to hold you back. PLEASE stop nagging me and go research things with an open mind as me and many other athletes have done before you. Search for truth; not what you WISH was true. Take care bro, happy learning!
@xxFairestxx If it is going to hold you back, then post the proof. And don't tell me to research it myself (I've BEEN researching it for 27 years and there is ZERO actual proof). That's what people say when they don't HAVE the evidence and don't want to admit that they are talking out of their asses. So either man up and send me the proof I asked for or admit you are just talking BS and be done with it.
@xxFairestxx The MOST DOMINANT athlete on the face of the earth is Micheal Phelps and he eats crap. FACT. Going vegan can have negative effects that don't show up for years. FACT. I don't want your respect buddy, I want you people to show other people respect and stop randomly insulting them because they don't agree with you. Sally Fallon never insulted this guy and probably never heard of him. Vegans are the millitant ones. FACT. I don't see a meat eaters equivalent to PETA.
@xxFairestxx Oh, and one last thing. They aren't His vids. When he posts them to a PUBLIC website they are no longer his. They are open to public scrutiny. As long as he's immature enough to insult people that do not agree with him (Sally Fallon etc), I will be here. Maybe he'll puss out like all those other vegans and block me because he can't take the scrutiny?
@xxFairestxx Enjoy your temporary success on your over-consumption of protein. Enjoy being skinny fat and unhealthy, and your increased chance of disease. But hey, as long as you blame carbs (good or bad) and find excuses to eat tonnes of meat right?
There's at at LEAST 5 separate assumptions in that post.^
@SCROGY The point is meat eaters say its natural, but couldnt kill one of these animals without un-natural tools, i'd like to see a meat-eater break a cows neck and prepare and eat it without tools. if its so natural, how come its impossible? carnivore smarnivore. the bike thing is irrelevant, harley has never claimed he can cycle 200km without a bike
@scrambledeggsTV What does that have to do with weather or not it's healthy? Monkeys have been seen using spears to hunt small bush baby like creatures. This is thought by scientists to push back the date that the first pre humans used hunting tools to at least 5 million BC. And the point was that the scope wasn't natural because it was MANUFACTURED, so I raised the same point about the bike. BTW: crows use tools as do many other animals. Using tools to hunt does not = unnatural.
@scrambledeggsTV We use tools for many things. We use them because we have the intelligence to do so. That fact alone does not prove that meat is unhealthy. Longevity rates are the only thing that does that, and the only studies I have seen even remotely close to what I asked for, show that vegans do not live longer and do not suffer less health issues. The only difference was that the health issues were different. Vegans actually suffered higher rates of some diseases and less of others.
@SCROGY Let's see these studies, please list them.
There is however plenty of evidence showing that veganism (and especially raw veganism - done right I must add) cures or at the very least helps reduce symtoms of many illnesses (including cancer) and i'm a very good case of that - raw veganism reversed my fibromyalga, chronic fatigue and IBS which i'd suffered with for over 7 years.
@SCROGY I'd also like to know who these studies were based on, what their health histories were and whether they were eating a healthy vegan diet or not (because like all diets - SAD, Paleo, lfrv, cooked vegan if you're not getting all of your nutrients of course you will begin to have adverse effects).
Of course there are no studies proving that meat/animal products are unhealthy and cause cancer/heart disease etc......oh wait...
@livingnotruths No there isn't a single study done that proves eating meat leads to less longevity. The reason is simple. There are no studies done using STRICT Paleolithic eaters. Meaning people that do NOT eat processed meats. Processed meats are full of nitrites which are WHMIS controlled substances that cause cancer with long term exposure. So if you're including people in any study that eat Salami or wieners and calling them "meat eaters", your study is worthless. But don't feel.....
@livingnotruths ....bad. It would be the same as including Fruit Roll Ups or Fruit cocktail as fruit in a study. And you know that's absurd. I even challenged Joseph Gonzales of the Caner Project to find a study like I requested and he had to admit there were none that he could find. Check your studies and see if they have discerned between eating natural unprocessed meat and processed meats that contain Sodium Nitrite. If they haven't, and they can PROVE it, then you'll have a case.
@livingnotruths I would be glad to send you info. But I hate posting on YT. Give me your e-mail and I will send you tons of stuff. If you don't trust posting your e-mail that's understandable. Send it in messages and I will delete it as soon as I get it and add you to my MSN contacts.
@SCROGY In the last 100 years, the North American and European diet has changed radically. The change can be summed up simply: calories from plant foods have been replaced by calories from animal fats. During the same period, rates of degenerative diseases like heart disease, cancer and diabetes has sky rocketed. Is there a connection?
@scrambledeggsTV While degenerative diseases have become common in the west, populations that have not yet adopted this "new and improved" diet are failing to get these diseases at anywhere near the same rate. Is eating animal fat - beef, chicken, milk, cheese etc. - really that big a deal?
@SCROGY the main food sources as far as I know it in this study are 'sweet potato', tofu & lots of leafy greens, its certainly not loads and loads of meat, they also had an exceptional health system, put in place after ww2.
@scrambledeggsTV Actually they do eat pork, chicken and seafood. The point is that despite the claims of vegans, the oldest living people on earth EAT MEAT! Even in the U.S the vast majority of Centenarians are meat eaters, NOT vegans.
@SCROGY "Even in the U.S the vast majority of Centenarians are meat eaters, NOT vegans." thats because the majority of the citizens are meat eaters, so of coure the majority of older citizens arent going to be vegan, come on
@scrambledeggsTV Not at all. Again, of the 9 well known vegans/fruitarians/raw fooders that I mentioned. NONE of them lived to be 100. Statistically, ONE at least, should have. In fact I have yet to see any actual verified 100 year old vegans.
@SCROGY and how many meat eaters die every day of heart disease and obesity related diseases? and at what age 10/20/30? surely you are not saying this is natural?
@scrambledeggsTV In one of the largest studies in Europe they found that CVD was SLIGHTLY higher in meat eaters, but that other diseases were higher in vegetarians/vegans. The longevity equaled out because of this.
@scrambledeggsTV Again, did you not read what I posted about Nitrites and other toxic chemicals used in PROCESSED meats? You can't form a conclusion about how healthy meat is when you are including meat that contains toxic synthetic chemicals. Until you find me a study that uses ONLY PALEO eaters, your point carries no weight. And I would love to see where any 10 year old has been shown to die from eating meat.
@scrambledeggsTV And what are those children eating? BAD CARBS. You don't get diabetes from eating meat. Nor obesity. Again YOU CAN'T get fat from eating fat. It's impossible. Biology 101.
@SCROGY uh.. if you eat meat, that is full of cholestoral, that fat will build up in your arteries, fact. whether it makes you outwardly fat is another question, but that it builds up in your body is a fact. vegetable fat does not build up like this because it stays fluid at body temperature, animal fat solidifies.
@scrambledeggsTV This is wrong. Vegetable fats DO build up in your arteries. Plaque is only 25% saturated. The other part is poly and mono. The reason is that those fats go rancid easily. Rancid vegetable fats act as free radicals in the arteries damaging them. When this damage occurs your body sends out Cholesterol, WHICH IS AN ANTIOXIDANT. Cholesterol forms at the damage site and is erroneously blamed for CAUSING the buildup when it in fact only responded to the damage caused by......
@scrambledeggsTV ..... the damage done by the rancid vegetable fats. It would be like blaming the cops for crime because you noticed that every time there was a crime there were cops present, therefore they must have caused it. The damage was not CAUSED by the Cholesterol, it is the bodies repair mechanism. That's why it's found in the damaged artery. You ever wonder why Soya oil needs to be so highly processed? Animal fat doesn't. Just cut it right off the animal and cook with it.
@scrambledeggsTV if these children were on a healthy, plant based diet, it is highly unlikely they would be obese, i mean they would really have to put some work in to become obese eating healthy, non-fatty foods.
@scrambledeggsTV Again, what part of "fat does not make you fat" are you not getting? Dietary fat isn't making them fat. They are fat because they eat too much and don't exercise enough. By the same token if they were on a high fat/protein diet they would also be unlikely to be fat. In fact LESS likely than on the high carb diet. In fact you can eat a calorie surplus of fat and STILL not gain weight, because you lack the hormone to store it for future use, unlike carbs.
@SCROGY ok, but it is fat that is giving them heart disease, can we not atleast agree on that? i understand what you're saying about fat, but I have never seen a fat fruitarian
@scrambledeggsTV No. Again, you are basing your conclusion on studies that have been poisoned by including processed meats, which contain toxic synthetic chemicals. This invalidates ANY research based on this simple fact. If you can show me evidence that eating natural, unprocessed meats causes decreased longevity, I would love to see it. Would you believe a study that included fruit roll ups and gummi bears as fruit simply because they are in some part fruit? Nope. Salami is not meat.
@SCROGY it IS fat that makes our adrenals and other organs struggle because the body has to work very hard to convert fat into energy, unlike simple carbs like fruit
@scrambledeggsTV And carbs are what makes us fat because they elevate blood sugar levels and cause the pancreas to secrete insulin. If you do not use up the carbs you consume, the pancreas secretes insulin and those carbs are converted into triglycerides in the liver and stores as bodyfat. Your triglycerides elevate more after a carbs only meal than a fat only meal because fat does not cause insulin secretion and thus fat storage.
@SCROGY did you know they cure type 2 diabetes by taking people off of their high fat diets and putting them on high sugar/carbs plant/fruit based diets?
@scrambledeggsTV They cure people of type 2 diabetes with high fat/protein diets. It would be impossible to cure someone of a disease that was NEVER caused by the food that you are eliminating from their diet. Sugar causes diabetes. This is an undeniable fact.
@scrambledeggsTV You do know the Paleo diet includes fruit, nuts berries, vegetables and meat right? If you can pick it off a tree or dig it up or kill it, you can eat it (as long as it's not a poisonous plant like nightshade)
@scrambledeggsTV Again. Show me evidence by posting any study that PROVES natural meat eaters (it must control this aspect and show that it was controlled) suffer lower longevity rates than vegans. That's all I am asking of you.
@SCROGY the majority of people who develop type 2 do so because they eat a high fat diet. removing the fat reverses the symptoms. I know this from personal experience, because I have suffered from hypoglycemia (a precurser to diabetes) for many years, now i eat a lot less fat and a lot more fruit and my symptoms are practically nil.
@scrambledeggsTV No they don't. You CANNOT get diabetes from fat. It's impossible. They get diabetes because they eat TOO MUCH, period. They are consuming too many calories and not exercising enough. Fat does not cause diabetes, over consumption of simple carbs does.
@SCROGY so are you totally ignoring the diabetes point? type 2 diabetes is already at epidemic levels and its getting worse, in a society where diet basically revolves around meat. take the fatty animal products out of the equation, replace with fruit and veg and the diabetes goes away, same for heart disease, why do you claim this is false when its clearly documented, just watch the video, they are real patients!
@scrambledeggsTV How does our diet revolve around meat when the food pyramid for the last 50 years has had grains at the top (the big end which means you should eat more of this food) and meats much lower (the small end) on the pyramid. I don't know where you are getting this claim from. Our diet really revolves around grains, and grains ARE BAD CARBS!
@scrambledeggsTV look at the chinese, rice rice and more rice, ever see an obese chinaman that wasnt living in the city gouging out on burgers every chance he gets
@scrambledeggsTV Bad analogy. Most of those Chinese are poor and or living in poverty. They are not fat because they just don't have much food. It has nothing to do with what food they eat. You might as well say look at Ethiopia or Bangladesh. They are thin (malnourished in extreme cases) because they don't have much food at all.
@scrambledeggsTV Yes, and it's been totally debunked and is now considered unreliable. Epidemiologiocal studies are not very reliable anyway, because they do not account for so many variables that can affect study conclusions.
@SCROGY seriously it hasnt been debunked "Even today, as the low-carb craze sweeps the nation, two-thirds of adults are still obese and children are being diagnosed with Type II diabetes, typically an "adult" disease, at an alarming rate. If we're eating healthier, why are Americans stricken with heart disease as much as we were 30 years ago?"
@scrambledeggsTV ""In this project, however, I uncovered a dark secret. Children who ate the highest protein diets were the ones most likely to get liver cancer...""
@scrambledeggsTV "The findings? "People who ate the most animal-based foods got the most chronic disease ... People who ate the most plant-based foods were the healthiest and tended to avoid chronic disease. These results could not be ignored," said Dr. Campbell."
@SCROGY so slim people are not slim because they eat a low fat diet, eating fat is not what makes fat people fat, the tudors who ate 90% meat diets only died young because of wild animals and on and on the self deception goes
@scrambledeggsTV Same to you. I don't insult people I am debating with. That's childish. And weakens your position. Keep it clean and I will continue the debate with you any time. Peace.
@scrambledeggsTV If they eat a calorie excess of rice they will get fat. It's a carb and carbs are stored as body fat for future use. You have been designed like that by evolution.
@SCROGY if the whole world was vegan, there would be plenty of people living their lives past 100, but the percentage is very low compared to the people slugging down the animal fat
@SCROGY theres no way this can be shown, at the moment most people eat meat, so of course the majority of older people are going to be meat eaters also.
@scrambledeggsTV If 10% of meat eaters lived to 100 and there were 100 meat eaters on earth you'd have 10 meat eating centenarians and if 90% of vegans lived to 100 and there were 20 vegans on earth you'd have 18 vegan centenarians. If the vegan diet were healthier, then the % of vegans living past 100 would be greater. Yet I cannot find any information that says they do.
@SCROGY do you think vegans think they are invincible and immune to genetic, environmental & other factors? of course they are not, but it is a sick and deteriorating, meat and animal product munching society that you see before you, with as you say 40 years of pushing healthy eating, the problems are still getting worse, because no matter now much you try to counteract the damage with fruits and veg the core problem is the same, meat is acidic, our bodies are alkali, meat sticks & rots.
@scrambledeggsTV Again. If everything you say is true then there would be evidence that shows meat eaters do not live longer, and yet there is NONE. And for your information many fruits are acidic. Grapefruit has a pH of about 2 to 2.5. ACIDIC. So do many other fruits.
@SCROGY man what evidence do you need?! its a well known fact that vegans pay a lot less for life insurance, because their diet is less damaging for the body. statistically if you just eat fatty meat your likely to die a lot sooner than someone who eats a lot of fruits and vegetables
@SCROGY there is plenty of evidence that links animal fat in the diet to heart disease and hundreds of other diseases. there is plenty of evidence that plant based diets can reverse heart disease, diabetes and hundreds of other diseases, from fibromyalgia, chrons, even arthritis. there is proven links between milk consumption and breast cancer (proven by the fact that in areas of the world where they drink little cows milk, cases of breast cancer are much, much lower)
@scrambledeggsTV No there isn't. I mean.......I......just......don't know how to be any clearer........O_o
You're are not getting what I am saying. ALL of that is based on including processed meats in studies. And besides the Paleo diet does not allow milk either.
@SCROGY the ONLY study I have ever heard mentioned in defense of a meat diet is the okinowan study, which when you look into it actually says that they eat little meat, barely 1/4 of any meal if at-all and the main basis of the diet is sweet potatoes and tofu,
@SCROGY yeah but its not a meat based diet, it is based around potatos. they could take thet meat out of the diet and be just as healthy as long as they got enough protein from plant sources, which is very easy to do. they couldnt however, take all the veg out of the diet and just live on meat, well they may live, but for how long, they certainly wont thrive on meat alone, is that what the paleo people try to do?
@scrambledeggsTV You do realise that vegans and vegetarins suffer form diseases and health maladies specific to their diet and a large majority of vegans simply cannot stay on the diet. At any one time there are more former vegans on earth than practicing vegans. If a diet is incredibly hard to stay on, that is your first clue it's not natural.
@SCROGY well when you've got people trying to survive on low calorie vegan diets, or just eating coconut oil and kale its any wonder, i'm vegan and i'm doing it properly and I feel better than ever
@scrambledeggsTV The problem is that most of the health issues with vegetarian and vegan diets take months or even years to show up. I am not against eating fruits and veg AT ALL. What I am against is claiming meat is unhealthy when all the studies that claim this include meat that is laden with synthetic toxins. OF COURSE the meat eaters they use in the studies will get more diseases, since the meat they are eating is laden with TOXIC chemicals. I mean how can people not see this?
@SCROGY i understand that point, the same can be said for many foods, including fruits and vegetables (dangerous, cancer and disease causing pesticides etc), I know of people who ate lard and worked down the mines and lived till they were a hundred, thats great for them but statistically if you do this, you are lowering your chances of survival.
@scrambledeggsTV BTW: Do you know how I know this? I worked as a chemical technician for a water treatment company. One of the chemicals we use to keep boiler pipes from rusting is called SODIUM NITRITE. It is the exact same chemical used to preserve food (usually processed meats but also other things). It is a WHMIS controlled chemical that is labelled TOXIC: cancer causing with long term exposure. It does the same thing to Salami that it does to the boiler pipes. Prevents oxidation.....
@SCROGY yep, i know this cos i saw you posted the exact same info before, and I get it, but it doesnt take away from the fact that all meat, even lean meat is full of cholestoral and is acidic. your body has to work hard to break down the meat and fat to convert it into what fruit already is - sugars. this creates a lot of meta-waste and toxic by products that flood the blood stream and organs, as well as fat, actual fat in the blood stream. the organs have to work hard to neutralize it.
@scrambledeggsTV You're talking about natural processes as if they were somehow bad. If they were you'd have evidence that eating meat leads to more disease and less longevity. I mean, how can I be any clearer? Cholesterol is not the devil. Do you know it acts as an anti oxidant in your body?
@SCROGY you know there was a time back in our history where vegetables were considered food for animals and nothing more, we ate meat, meat and more meat and many people didnt make it to there 30th birthday, I think life expectancy was about 40 years, this was before processed meat foods and added nitrates etc, these were purely organic, locally bred animals, freshly slaughtered and eaten by the bucketload and it killed humans off, as we introduced veg we started to live longer
@scrambledeggsTV Bad analogy. We didn't make it to 40 because we lived out on the Savanah with Lions and dangerous animals. In dangerous conditions. If you got injured you had no medical care at all. A broken leg was a death sentence. When we started cultivating plants we moved into villages where they were far fewer dangers and we could use our numbers as protection from predators. And in actuality the Paleolithic life span was actually slightly longer than the Neolithic lifespan.
@SCROGY no im talking about the rich, who lived in castles and pretty much ate nothing but meat most of the time, they died young because their bodies gave out
@scrambledeggsTV I am not sure what the Tudors have to do with this since they also did almost nothing due to the fact that they lived priveledged lives. Being poor can also have the effect of causing you to work harder, thereby staving off the diseases that come with no activity. Again this is why kids are fat now. Not only because of diet, but because they don't exercise enough for the calories they do eat.
@SCROGY totally agree that excercise has a lot to do with it, but really how can you say that the china study has been debunked thechinastudy. com/praise.html
@scrambledeggsTV Not true. We were hunters gatherers. Meaning the men hunted and the women collected fruits, berries and veg. Hence why the rules for Paleo eating say if you can kill it, pick it off a tree or dig it up you can eat it. That is the PALEO diet. And Paleolithic man actually had a slightly longer lifespan than neolithic (the first cultivators of plants/grains/grasses) man.
@scrambledeggsTV I have a cat, and the only reason I wouldn't eat cat or dog is because I find them unpalatable. And just the fact that since we consider them pets it would seem weird. But then I find grapefruit unpalatable. Too sour. And it damages your teeth. Delicious apples are too sweet for me. Makes me almost sick to eat them. But then many modern fruits have been GM to make them more palatable. Most wild apples were I live are so sour they will curl the hair on your ass.
@scrambledeggsTV ........... you can verify EVERYTHING I say by visiting Drew or Quatic or any other water treatment companies' sites and reading up on Sodium Nitrite (you can even go to Wiki). Then look at a package of sausages. Same chemical. Now......how does ANY study that includes meats containing this chemical have any validity? It doesn't. It's not the meat that is bad for you it's the processed meats. You can't consume a toxic man made chemical in food and NOT get sick.
@SCROGY i understand that, but its the same fat in both, and fat causes heart disease and diabetes, i dont care what you say, its proven, remove the fat, reverse the disease
@SCROGY Food could not be transported, nor could it be frozen. The Tudors therefore relied on fresh food. The menu below shows what the rich people would have eaten. Poor people would have eaten a herb-flavoured soup called pottage which would be served with bread. A Sixteenth Century Dinner First Course Brawn (boar meat) Roast Tongue Leg of Pork Roast Beef Roast Venison (deer) Meat Pie Vegetables in season Bread Second Course Roast Lamb Rabbit Bread
@scrambledeggsTV "The Tudors could keep the animals they used for food alive, so meat was available all year round. Fruit and vegetables could only be eaten when they were in season.
@scrambledeggsTV AGAIN. ALL this is based on meat that has had toxic Nitrites added to it. Do you not understand what I am saying here? ALL the studies that say meat is unhealthy are based on meats laden with Nitrites and other synthetic chemicals. All I ask is that you find ONE SINGLE study that uses strict PALEO eaters and not SAD eaters. SAD diet includes processed meats. I really don't know how to get it across to you if this doesn't work.
@scrambledeggsTV and the healthy ones do not just eat meat, they eat plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables, because you cannot survive on meat alone without severe consequences, you can however thrive perfectly well on plant foods, without any meat whatsoever
@scrambledeggsTV What do you mean calories from animal foods have replaced plant foods? Did Margerine not replace butter? Have grains not been marketed as wholesome and healthy? Has there not been a low fat push for the last 40 years? I don't know where you're getting these stats.
@SCROGY there has been a low fat push, but look around you, its not working. the majority of people eat too much meat and dairy and dont excercise enough, and the majority of people are obese as a direct result, i've never seen a fat vegan, i think its impossible because vegetable fat does not collect in the body in the same way, neither under the skin or in the arteries.
@scrambledeggsTV You do realize that fat does not make you fat right? Humans lack the hormone to store dietary fat on it's own. Insulin stores unburned carbs, but humans have no hormone that stores fat by itself (eaten in the absence of carbs). When people say that eating meat makes you fat I know they have no understanding of human biology. Dietary fat CANNOT make you fat because you lack the hormones (what insulin is to carbs or elevated blood sugar) to store it.
@scrambledeggsTV No, the majority of people eat too many bad carbs. The cereal industry has pushed the benefits of grains on us for 100 years, yet grains are not part of the diet we evolved on. Try this out: It may be different where you live but in Canada your box of Cheerios says: "General Mills donates money to the Heart and Stroke foundation. The H&SF recommends Cheerios as part of a healthy diet, this is not an endorsement." YES IT IS!!! In fact it is a conflict of interest!!!
@scrambledeggsTV And in case you didn't noticed, vegetable and Soya oils have almost ENTIRELY replaced coconut oil and lard in most foods. In fact the Soy industry in the US has all but put the coconut oil industry out of business.
No one will take this dude seriously as long as he insults the people that he doesn't agree with. Sally Fatton? No one is trying to shoot the messenger, it's just that the messenger is being a pompous douche. And I don't know why he goes on about SAD when real meat eaters eat Paleo. Don't eat animals because it's better for me? No it's not.
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@StoneBeatsScissors So that means humans can get fat eating grass? Hey moron, if you want to compare animals, compare humans with humans but thats right, you think drinking milk from cows and horses is NATURAL for humans lol!
@durianrider Nope his mom didn't breastfeed him because breast milk has CASEIN protein, which is toxic to your body! Haahahahahaha. Maybe Autism is linked to casein milk in formulas rather than mammalian produced milk, eh?
people don't confuse your passion with aggression...you are extremely aggressive toward anyone who questions you....you are an asshole. aggression does not equal physical violence either. they are not mutually exclusive. i like your info a lot of times but you are a pompous ass in you delivery method...in my opinion.
@StoneBeatsScissors, I was responding to faulty logic by making the same pattern of argument based on his, yet you throw out strawmen arguments. You attack Doritos when it has nothing to do with veganism as they use animal products. A healthy vegan diet is mainly of plant foods, not chips that MEAT EATERS consume. Humans are fat and they eat meat. See, I can do that too. You're obviously ignorant of nutrition and refuse to acknowledge the benefits of an all plant diet. Read a book imbecile.
@SCROGY, Just as I thought: You didn't read the whole conversation nor cared about the context. Just wanted to jump in and defend your diet when it wasn't really about diet at all. Insecurity and ignorance in one. Congrats.
And since you brought it up: Enjoy your temporary success on your over-consumption of protein. Enjoy being skinny fat and unhealthy, and your increased chance of disease. But hey, as long as you blame carbs (good or bad) and find excuses to eat tonnes of meat right?
@LloydChristmas777 ........I have been an athlete for my whole life and I am certainly not skinny fat. It's hilarious that you have made what, five separate assumptions about me and made three separate false claims about my diet in this one post? Congrats. I don't need excuses to eat meat. Nature has designed me to do so.
@LloydChristmas777 I understood it perfectly. You don't seem to understand that. I was referring to his comment on a gun scope/knife not being natural yet he rides a factory made bike. BTW: I dead lift 2x bodyweight and chin 63% of my BW added around my waist. I have a purple belt in BJJ and do 200 burpees as fast as possible in my HIIT sessions (20 sets of 10). I do Wendlers 5/3/1 (look it up) for strength and train 6 days a week. Any time you want to come train with me you are welcome...
@LloydChristmas777 Oh BTW: You're a coward. You block people that don't agree with you? Surest sign of someone that is afraid to defend his position. I never called you names or insulted you so you really have no reason to block me other than the fact that you know you are wrong or don't like what I am saying. You people are posting on a public forum but are afraid any time someone challenges your vegan BS. Thanks for admitting you are wrong by blocking me.
Im sorry dude, but you are full of crap. You personally might not be about violence, but here in california the vegan extremists are not supportive and not compassionate and are violent, both in actions and words. So speak for yourself, but don't go painting this bullshit picture of vegans all being compassionate supportive people. Thats a load of garbage.
Davesca14ers 3 weeks ago 2
@Davesca14ers There are extremist in every group. As a matter of fact some people are born crazy. Doesn't make them all that way. Look at Loma Linda California. 95% of the population is Vegan and doesn't drink caffeine. They live the longest out of any city in the U.S. and have the lowest crime rate. The stats do not lie and you my friend are trying to paint the extremist has mainstream to further your agenda whatever that may be.
danie123182 6 days ago
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How about a positive message and stop going out of your way to attack others. Human beings have the power of discernment and everyone will figure it out in their own time. Your videos make my head hurt, and carry an energy about them that is more dense than I have time to watch anymore of. There is no reason to find others faults unless you are not willing to face your own. "To change reality you must change yourself. Your internal self reflects and becomes your external world. This is the key"
heartcenter333 1 month ago
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heartcenter333 1 month ago
and this is not passion,this is nastiness...f...k off!
galimir 2 months ago
this asshole durian never gets tired of go round and round in circles like a broken gramophone about his banana-carb nonsence...Im sure he will erase me like a "weed"....it doesnt matter mate,youll be na asshole with or without "weeds"...and no,Im not going to complain and spread your "glory"on other places,as you expect from the "weeds"...go smash some more enemies,how perfect you are!
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SCROGY 2 months ago
Shooting an animal with a gun made in a factory isn't natural? OK. Riding a bike made in a factory isn't natural either dipshit. God, you make it too easy to own you sometimes.
SCROGY 2 months ago
@SCROGY I lol'd. If you aren't a vegan, this guy has owned you in every video.
xxFairestxx 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx I'm not a vegan. And if you call blocking people so they can't respond "owning", then you have a fucked up view of being owned. I call it being a coward who knows his stance is weak. It's like the sandbox, and that kid who would take his toys and go home when things didn't go his way.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY Thing is bro, veganism is proven as the healthiest way to eat. Meat and dairy are unhealthy. Proven. Eat it if you want, but you're wrong. I am a body builder, I do gymnastics and I'm a 17yr martial artist and I build perfectly. He knows he's right, because he is...you're just ignorant. Get off his vids moron.
xxFairestxx 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx No it's not. There is no evidence that vegans live longer than HEALTHY meat eaters. And that means PALEO eaters. WHY? Because processed meat is filled with toxic Nitrites and when they compare SAD dieters to (That's what they WRONGLY call meat eaters) vegans it skews the results. I'll tell you what. I bet a famous vegan doctor that he couldn't find a SINGLE study that compares vegans to Paleo eaters. One that CERTIFIES the meat eaters ONLY ate Paleo. He addmitted defeat.....
SCROGY 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx Tell you what. If you can find a study that PROVES for 100% certain that vegans outlive Paleo eaters, I'll leave. But you have to find one that you can prove to me certifies the meat eaters NEVER ate processed meats (Wieners, Salami, Pepperoni etc). You can talk all the shit you want little man, but until you find such a study, I'll be right here. I don't care if you or he thinks he's right. PROVE you're right or fuck the hell off.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx Oh and one last thing. I work with chemicals. I treat water with chemicals and one of the chemicals I use is called Sodium Nitrite. It is used as a preservative in PROCESSED meats. It's also used to keep boiler pipes from corroding!!! It is a WHMIS controlled chemical that causes cancer with long term exposure. Now tell me how ANY study that doesn't discern between natural meat and processed meats can be taken seriously. Go ahead pal. I want to hear your explanation. Moron.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY Bro, you're in my territory. Nutrition, fitness, body building...I don't have to prove shit to you. I know what's fact and I have it on my side. Research it yourself you lazy, typical american fuck. Ignoring you, not because I think you're right, but because I have no time to flood your inbox. I take off my shirt and go to training; that is proof enough for me. However, I also have nutritional science on my side. Cya you mad little fatty. (not assuming. you ARE unhealthy)
xxFairestxx 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx Ok. 1) You assumed I am American. I'm not. So we know you aren't intelligent enough NOT to assume things. 2) I have been researching and training 10 years LONGER than you have been on this planet. 3) Don't place the onus on me. It's on YOU since you made the claim. That's debating 101 son. But I already know that such a study doesn't exist so I'll save you the time spent proving yourself wrong. 4) ANY TIME you want to get together and train there's a free room for you here.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY "Sigh"...so blocking you doesn't block comments. How very upsetting...but anyway, "son" (?) 10 years longer? I'm 24 years old. If you just happen to be 34 and you spend your days watching videos about things you don't like on the internet...get a life. I started martial arts at 3 1/2...so thats about 21 years of constant involvment...and I started triathlons at 14. No man, you haven't been. Quit trying to get a foothold in this topic and go research it yourself.
xxFairestxx 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx I'm not actually 34, I'm older but I look 20 years younger than my age, and I didn't get that way being vegan. I don't post my real info for security reasons on any site. I'm a BJJ purple belt under a couple of Sylviho Behring black belts (He's a facebook friend so I can prove it). As far as getting a foothold, I don't need one. I have spent more time researching than you've been on this planet, and there is ZERO evidence that vegans live longer than strict Paleo eaters. FACT.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx You've been doing MA for 21 years? Down there 3 or 4 posts ago it was 17 years. Where did you lose that 4 years?
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY Many athletes go vegan and experience dramatic results. FACT is, going vegan DOES improve performance...like it or not. Get over the fact that vegans are going to look down on your poor diet choices and get on with it. We'd respect you more if you didn't try to argue and just accepted that we don't agree with you and moved on. I doubt your 34 because you're rather immature. Quit responding to me and do something worthy of your time.
xxFairestxx 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx Not that age=maturity actually, so you very well may be 34. Beside the point though. A diet consisting of meat and dairy IS going to hold you back. PLEASE stop nagging me and go research things with an open mind as me and many other athletes have done before you. Search for truth; not what you WISH was true. Take care bro, happy learning!
xxFairestxx 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx If it is going to hold you back, then post the proof. And don't tell me to research it myself (I've BEEN researching it for 27 years and there is ZERO actual proof). That's what people say when they don't HAVE the evidence and don't want to admit that they are talking out of their asses. So either man up and send me the proof I asked for or admit you are just talking BS and be done with it.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx The MOST DOMINANT athlete on the face of the earth is Micheal Phelps and he eats crap. FACT. Going vegan can have negative effects that don't show up for years. FACT. I don't want your respect buddy, I want you people to show other people respect and stop randomly insulting them because they don't agree with you. Sally Fallon never insulted this guy and probably never heard of him. Vegans are the millitant ones. FACT. I don't see a meat eaters equivalent to PETA.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx Oh, and one last thing. They aren't His vids. When he posts them to a PUBLIC website they are no longer his. They are open to public scrutiny. As long as he's immature enough to insult people that do not agree with him (Sally Fallon etc), I will be here. Maybe he'll puss out like all those other vegans and block me because he can't take the scrutiny?
SCROGY 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx Oh and lets not forget the five separate WRONG assumptions he made about me. If you've forgotten them I can point them out for you.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@xxFairestxx Enjoy your temporary success on your over-consumption of protein. Enjoy being skinny fat and unhealthy, and your increased chance of disease. But hey, as long as you blame carbs (good or bad) and find excuses to eat tonnes of meat right?
There's at at LEAST 5 separate assumptions in that post.^
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY The point is meat eaters say its natural, but couldnt kill one of these animals without un-natural tools, i'd like to see a meat-eater break a cows neck and prepare and eat it without tools. if its so natural, how come its impossible? carnivore smarnivore. the bike thing is irrelevant, harley has never claimed he can cycle 200km without a bike
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV What does that have to do with weather or not it's healthy? Monkeys have been seen using spears to hunt small bush baby like creatures. This is thought by scientists to push back the date that the first pre humans used hunting tools to at least 5 million BC. And the point was that the scope wasn't natural because it was MANUFACTURED, so I raised the same point about the bike. BTW: crows use tools as do many other animals. Using tools to hunt does not = unnatural.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV We use tools for many things. We use them because we have the intelligence to do so. That fact alone does not prove that meat is unhealthy. Longevity rates are the only thing that does that, and the only studies I have seen even remotely close to what I asked for, show that vegans do not live longer and do not suffer less health issues. The only difference was that the health issues were different. Vegans actually suffered higher rates of some diseases and less of others.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY Let's see these studies, please list them.
There is however plenty of evidence showing that veganism (and especially raw veganism - done right I must add) cures or at the very least helps reduce symtoms of many illnesses (including cancer) and i'm a very good case of that - raw veganism reversed my fibromyalga, chronic fatigue and IBS which i'd suffered with for over 7 years.
livingnotruths 1 month ago
@SCROGY I'd also like to know who these studies were based on, what their health histories were and whether they were eating a healthy vegan diet or not (because like all diets - SAD, Paleo, lfrv, cooked vegan if you're not getting all of your nutrients of course you will begin to have adverse effects).
Of course there are no studies proving that meat/animal products are unhealthy and cause cancer/heart disease etc......oh wait...
livingnotruths 1 month ago
@livingnotruths No there isn't a single study done that proves eating meat leads to less longevity. The reason is simple. There are no studies done using STRICT Paleolithic eaters. Meaning people that do NOT eat processed meats. Processed meats are full of nitrites which are WHMIS controlled substances that cause cancer with long term exposure. So if you're including people in any study that eat Salami or wieners and calling them "meat eaters", your study is worthless. But don't feel.....
SCROGY 1 month ago
@livingnotruths ....bad. It would be the same as including Fruit Roll Ups or Fruit cocktail as fruit in a study. And you know that's absurd. I even challenged Joseph Gonzales of the Caner Project to find a study like I requested and he had to admit there were none that he could find. Check your studies and see if they have discerned between eating natural unprocessed meat and processed meats that contain Sodium Nitrite. If they haven't, and they can PROVE it, then you'll have a case.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@livingnotruths I would be glad to send you info. But I hate posting on YT. Give me your e-mail and I will send you tons of stuff. If you don't trust posting your e-mail that's understandable. Send it in messages and I will delete it as soon as I get it and add you to my MSN contacts.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY In the last 100 years, the North American and European diet has changed radically. The change can be summed up simply: calories from plant foods have been replaced by calories from animal fats. During the same period, rates of degenerative diseases like heart disease, cancer and diabetes has sky rocketed. Is there a connection?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV While degenerative diseases have become common in the west, populations that have not yet adopted this "new and improved" diet are failing to get these diseases at anywhere near the same rate. Is eating animal fat - beef, chicken, milk, cheese etc. - really that big a deal?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV google "foods that kill healthy eating" for more info
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV seriously give the video a watch, listen to the doctor talk about heart disease and ALL animal fat in the body / bloodstream
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV As well, how many centenarians in the Okinawan Centenarian Study are vegans, fruitarians and or vegetarians? Just curious.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY the main food sources as far as I know it in this study are 'sweet potato', tofu & lots of leafy greens, its certainly not loads and loads of meat, they also had an exceptional health system, put in place after ww2.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Actually they do eat pork, chicken and seafood. The point is that despite the claims of vegans, the oldest living people on earth EAT MEAT! Even in the U.S the vast majority of Centenarians are meat eaters, NOT vegans.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY "Even in the U.S the vast majority of Centenarians are meat eaters, NOT vegans." thats because the majority of the citizens are meat eaters, so of coure the majority of older citizens arent going to be vegan, come on
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Not at all. Again, of the 9 well known vegans/fruitarians/raw fooders that I mentioned. NONE of them lived to be 100. Statistically, ONE at least, should have. In fact I have yet to see any actual verified 100 year old vegans.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY and how many meat eaters die every day of heart disease and obesity related diseases? and at what age 10/20/30? surely you are not saying this is natural?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV In one of the largest studies in Europe they found that CVD was SLIGHTLY higher in meat eaters, but that other diseases were higher in vegetarians/vegans. The longevity equaled out because of this.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Again, did you not read what I posted about Nitrites and other toxic chemicals used in PROCESSED meats? You can't form a conclusion about how healthy meat is when you are including meat that contains toxic synthetic chemicals. Until you find me a study that uses ONLY PALEO eaters, your point carries no weight. And I would love to see where any 10 year old has been shown to die from eating meat.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY "OVERWEIGHT children with type 2 diabetes from the age of 10, and even younger children already at risk of developing heart disease.
Read more: ww.news.com.au/national/generation-fat-victorias-obesity-crisis/story-e6frfkvr-1226096499745#ixzz1kc5YQ4wq"
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV And what are those children eating? BAD CARBS. You don't get diabetes from eating meat. Nor obesity. Again YOU CAN'T get fat from eating fat. It's impossible. Biology 101.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY uh.. if you eat meat, that is full of cholestoral, that fat will build up in your arteries, fact. whether it makes you outwardly fat is another question, but that it builds up in your body is a fact. vegetable fat does not build up like this because it stays fluid at body temperature, animal fat solidifies.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV This is wrong. Vegetable fats DO build up in your arteries. Plaque is only 25% saturated. The other part is poly and mono. The reason is that those fats go rancid easily. Rancid vegetable fats act as free radicals in the arteries damaging them. When this damage occurs your body sends out Cholesterol, WHICH IS AN ANTIOXIDANT. Cholesterol forms at the damage site and is erroneously blamed for CAUSING the buildup when it in fact only responded to the damage caused by......
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV ..... the damage done by the rancid vegetable fats. It would be like blaming the cops for crime because you noticed that every time there was a crime there were cops present, therefore they must have caused it. The damage was not CAUSED by the Cholesterol, it is the bodies repair mechanism. That's why it's found in the damaged artery. You ever wonder why Soya oil needs to be so highly processed? Animal fat doesn't. Just cut it right off the animal and cook with it.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV if these children were on a healthy, plant based diet, it is highly unlikely they would be obese, i mean they would really have to put some work in to become obese eating healthy, non-fatty foods.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Again, what part of "fat does not make you fat" are you not getting? Dietary fat isn't making them fat. They are fat because they eat too much and don't exercise enough. By the same token if they were on a high fat/protein diet they would also be unlikely to be fat. In fact LESS likely than on the high carb diet. In fact you can eat a calorie surplus of fat and STILL not gain weight, because you lack the hormone to store it for future use, unlike carbs.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY ok, but it is fat that is giving them heart disease, can we not atleast agree on that? i understand what you're saying about fat, but I have never seen a fat fruitarian
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV No. Again, you are basing your conclusion on studies that have been poisoned by including processed meats, which contain toxic synthetic chemicals. This invalidates ANY research based on this simple fact. If you can show me evidence that eating natural, unprocessed meats causes decreased longevity, I would love to see it. Would you believe a study that included fruit roll ups and gummi bears as fruit simply because they are in some part fruit? Nope. Salami is not meat.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY it IS fat that makes our adrenals and other organs struggle because the body has to work very hard to convert fat into energy, unlike simple carbs like fruit
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV And carbs are what makes us fat because they elevate blood sugar levels and cause the pancreas to secrete insulin. If you do not use up the carbs you consume, the pancreas secretes insulin and those carbs are converted into triglycerides in the liver and stores as bodyfat. Your triglycerides elevate more after a carbs only meal than a fat only meal because fat does not cause insulin secretion and thus fat storage.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY did you know they cure type 2 diabetes by taking people off of their high fat diets and putting them on high sugar/carbs plant/fruit based diets?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV They cure people of type 2 diabetes with high fat/protein diets. It would be impossible to cure someone of a disease that was NEVER caused by the food that you are eliminating from their diet. Sugar causes diabetes. This is an undeniable fact.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY no, you are wrong
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV ww.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZe-igIE4dI&feature=player_embedded
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV you need to add the other w to the address
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV You do know the Paleo diet includes fruit, nuts berries, vegetables and meat right? If you can pick it off a tree or dig it up or kill it, you can eat it (as long as it's not a poisonous plant like nightshade)
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY no i didnt know that, but that fact remains that out of all those things the most likely to cause you harm is the meat.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Again. Show me evidence by posting any study that PROVES natural meat eaters (it must control this aspect and show that it was controlled) suffer lower longevity rates than vegans. That's all I am asking of you.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY the majority of people who develop type 2 do so because they eat a high fat diet. removing the fat reverses the symptoms. I know this from personal experience, because I have suffered from hypoglycemia (a precurser to diabetes) for many years, now i eat a lot less fat and a lot more fruit and my symptoms are practically nil.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV No they don't. You CANNOT get diabetes from fat. It's impossible. They get diabetes because they eat TOO MUCH, period. They are consuming too many calories and not exercising enough. Fat does not cause diabetes, over consumption of simple carbs does.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY so how come when they take the fat out of the diet and replace it with fruits, the diabetes goes away?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV There's a good explanation. Show me where this happens first and I will explain it to you.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY so are you totally ignoring the diabetes point? type 2 diabetes is already at epidemic levels and its getting worse, in a society where diet basically revolves around meat. take the fatty animal products out of the equation, replace with fruit and veg and the diabetes goes away, same for heart disease, why do you claim this is false when its clearly documented, just watch the video, they are real patients!
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV How does our diet revolve around meat when the food pyramid for the last 50 years has had grains at the top (the big end which means you should eat more of this food) and meats much lower (the small end) on the pyramid. I don't know where you are getting this claim from. Our diet really revolves around grains, and grains ARE BAD CARBS!
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY seriously just look around you, these people are not getting fat eating rice
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV look at the chinese, rice rice and more rice, ever see an obese chinaman that wasnt living in the city gouging out on burgers every chance he gets
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Bad analogy. Most of those Chinese are poor and or living in poverty. They are not fat because they just don't have much food. It has nothing to do with what food they eat. You might as well say look at Ethiopia or Bangladesh. They are thin (malnourished in extreme cases) because they don't have much food at all.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY have you read the china study?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Yes, and it's been totally debunked and is now considered unreliable. Epidemiologiocal studies are not very reliable anyway, because they do not account for so many variables that can affect study conclusions.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY seriously it hasnt been debunked "Even today, as the low-carb craze sweeps the nation, two-thirds of adults are still obese and children are being diagnosed with Type II diabetes, typically an "adult" disease, at an alarming rate. If we're eating healthier, why are Americans stricken with heart disease as much as we were 30 years ago?"
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV ""In this project, however, I uncovered a dark secret. Children who ate the highest protein diets were the ones most likely to get liver cancer...""
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV "The findings? "People who ate the most animal-based foods got the most chronic disease ... People who ate the most plant-based foods were the healthiest and tended to avoid chronic disease. These results could not be ignored," said Dr. Campbell."
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Yes, and his study has been debunked. It has been ripped apart and revealed as fraudulent.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Where is this from? You posted no references.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Yes it has. Look it up. Google it.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY debunked by who? powerful, rich lobbyists? people with invested interests in the meat and dairy industries?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Nope. One woman with no connections to anyone.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY so slim people are not slim because they eat a low fat diet, eating fat is not what makes fat people fat, the tudors who ate 90% meat diets only died young because of wild animals and on and on the self deception goes
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV They also did NOTHING.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY thechinastudy. com/
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Google it. China study debunked.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Anyway. It's been fun. But I have to go eat. Debate with you later.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY heartattackproof . com/
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV See you tomorrow. Peace.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY i have to go sleep, thanks for keeping it clean
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV No problem.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Same to you. I don't insult people I am debating with. That's childish. And weakens your position. Keep it clean and I will continue the debate with you any time. Peace.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY Cheers, 2 in the morning and im done,
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV If they eat a calorie excess of rice they will get fat. It's a carb and carbs are stored as body fat for future use. You have been designed like that by evolution.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY if the whole world was vegan, there would be plenty of people living their lives past 100, but the percentage is very low compared to the people slugging down the animal fat
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV So show me the percentages. I want to see where the % of vegans living past 100 is much greater than the % of meat eaters.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY theres no way this can be shown, at the moment most people eat meat, so of course the majority of older people are going to be meat eaters also.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV If 10% of meat eaters lived to 100 and there were 100 meat eaters on earth you'd have 10 meat eating centenarians and if 90% of vegans lived to 100 and there were 20 vegans on earth you'd have 18 vegan centenarians. If the vegan diet were healthier, then the % of vegans living past 100 would be greater. Yet I cannot find any information that says they do.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY do you think vegans think they are invincible and immune to genetic, environmental & other factors? of course they are not, but it is a sick and deteriorating, meat and animal product munching society that you see before you, with as you say 40 years of pushing healthy eating, the problems are still getting worse, because no matter now much you try to counteract the damage with fruits and veg the core problem is the same, meat is acidic, our bodies are alkali, meat sticks & rots.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Again. If everything you say is true then there would be evidence that shows meat eaters do not live longer, and yet there is NONE. And for your information many fruits are acidic. Grapefruit has a pH of about 2 to 2.5. ACIDIC. So do many other fruits.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY man what evidence do you need?! its a well known fact that vegans pay a lot less for life insurance, because their diet is less damaging for the body. statistically if you just eat fatty meat your likely to die a lot sooner than someone who eats a lot of fruits and vegetables
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV why do you think they push the 5 a day thing so hard?!
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV What 5 a day thing?
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Again, show me the evidence that vegans are healthier and live longer than PALEO eaters. That's all I am asking.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY there is plenty of evidence that links animal fat in the diet to heart disease and hundreds of other diseases. there is plenty of evidence that plant based diets can reverse heart disease, diabetes and hundreds of other diseases, from fibromyalgia, chrons, even arthritis. there is proven links between milk consumption and breast cancer (proven by the fact that in areas of the world where they drink little cows milk, cases of breast cancer are much, much lower)
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV No there isn't. I mean.......I......just......don't know how to be any clearer........O_o
You're are not getting what I am saying. ALL of that is based on including processed meats in studies. And besides the Paleo diet does not allow milk either.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY the ONLY study I have ever heard mentioned in defense of a meat diet is the okinowan study, which when you look into it actually says that they eat little meat, barely 1/4 of any meal if at-all and the main basis of the diet is sweet potatoes and tofu,
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Yes, They eat meat and are among the oldest people on earth. I don't know how this isn't clear to you.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY yeah but its not a meat based diet, it is based around potatos. they could take thet meat out of the diet and be just as healthy as long as they got enough protein from plant sources, which is very easy to do. they couldnt however, take all the veg out of the diet and just live on meat, well they may live, but for how long, they certainly wont thrive on meat alone, is that what the paleo people try to do?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV You do realise that vegans and vegetarins suffer form diseases and health maladies specific to their diet and a large majority of vegans simply cannot stay on the diet. At any one time there are more former vegans on earth than practicing vegans. If a diet is incredibly hard to stay on, that is your first clue it's not natural.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY well when you've got people trying to survive on low calorie vegan diets, or just eating coconut oil and kale its any wonder, i'm vegan and i'm doing it properly and I feel better than ever
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV The problem is that most of the health issues with vegetarian and vegan diets take months or even years to show up. I am not against eating fruits and veg AT ALL. What I am against is claiming meat is unhealthy when all the studies that claim this include meat that is laden with synthetic toxins. OF COURSE the meat eaters they use in the studies will get more diseases, since the meat they are eating is laden with TOXIC chemicals. I mean how can people not see this?
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY i understand that point, the same can be said for many foods, including fruits and vegetables (dangerous, cancer and disease causing pesticides etc), I know of people who ate lard and worked down the mines and lived till they were a hundred, thats great for them but statistically if you do this, you are lowering your chances of survival.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Again, all I want is the proof. I think you are sincere in your beliefs, but you have to give me the evidence I am looking for.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV BTW: Do you know how I know this? I worked as a chemical technician for a water treatment company. One of the chemicals we use to keep boiler pipes from rusting is called SODIUM NITRITE. It is the exact same chemical used to preserve food (usually processed meats but also other things). It is a WHMIS controlled chemical that is labelled TOXIC: cancer causing with long term exposure. It does the same thing to Salami that it does to the boiler pipes. Prevents oxidation.....
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY yep, i know this cos i saw you posted the exact same info before, and I get it, but it doesnt take away from the fact that all meat, even lean meat is full of cholestoral and is acidic. your body has to work hard to break down the meat and fat to convert it into what fruit already is - sugars. this creates a lot of meta-waste and toxic by products that flood the blood stream and organs, as well as fat, actual fat in the blood stream. the organs have to work hard to neutralize it.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV You're talking about natural processes as if they were somehow bad. If they were you'd have evidence that eating meat leads to more disease and less longevity. I mean, how can I be any clearer? Cholesterol is not the devil. Do you know it acts as an anti oxidant in your body?
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY you know there was a time back in our history where vegetables were considered food for animals and nothing more, we ate meat, meat and more meat and many people didnt make it to there 30th birthday, I think life expectancy was about 40 years, this was before processed meat foods and added nitrates etc, these were purely organic, locally bred animals, freshly slaughtered and eaten by the bucketload and it killed humans off, as we introduced veg we started to live longer
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Bad analogy. We didn't make it to 40 because we lived out on the Savanah with Lions and dangerous animals. In dangerous conditions. If you got injured you had no medical care at all. A broken leg was a death sentence. When we started cultivating plants we moved into villages where they were far fewer dangers and we could use our numbers as protection from predators. And in actuality the Paleolithic life span was actually slightly longer than the Neolithic lifespan.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY no im talking about the rich, who lived in castles and pretty much ate nothing but meat most of the time, they died young because their bodies gave out
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV I am not sure what the Tudors have to do with this since they also did almost nothing due to the fact that they lived priveledged lives. Being poor can also have the effect of causing you to work harder, thereby staving off the diseases that come with no activity. Again this is why kids are fat now. Not only because of diet, but because they don't exercise enough for the calories they do eat.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Ever notice that there are no fat Masai, even though they eat meat and fat and drink blood from their animals?
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY totally agree that excercise has a lot to do with it, but really how can you say that the china study has been debunked thechinastudy. com/praise.html
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Not true. We were hunters gatherers. Meaning the men hunted and the women collected fruits, berries and veg. Hence why the rules for Paleo eating say if you can kill it, pick it off a tree or dig it up you can eat it. That is the PALEO diet. And Paleolithic man actually had a slightly longer lifespan than neolithic (the first cultivators of plants/grains/grasses) man.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY this might seem off topic but firstly would you eat dog? and secondly do you have a pet dog?
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV I have a cat, and the only reason I wouldn't eat cat or dog is because I find them unpalatable. And just the fact that since we consider them pets it would seem weird. But then I find grapefruit unpalatable. Too sour. And it damages your teeth. Delicious apples are too sweet for me. Makes me almost sick to eat them. But then many modern fruits have been GM to make them more palatable. Most wild apples were I live are so sour they will curl the hair on your ass.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV ........... you can verify EVERYTHING I say by visiting Drew or Quatic or any other water treatment companies' sites and reading up on Sodium Nitrite (you can even go to Wiki). Then look at a package of sausages. Same chemical. Now......how does ANY study that includes meats containing this chemical have any validity? It doesn't. It's not the meat that is bad for you it's the processed meats. You can't consume a toxic man made chemical in food and NOT get sick.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY i understand that, but its the same fat in both, and fat causes heart disease and diabetes, i dont care what you say, its proven, remove the fat, reverse the disease
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV and thankfully i dont eat any of that crap anymore, so no problem for me
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV Again. Show me the evidence.
SCROGY 1 month ago
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV "The Tudors could keep the animals they used for food alive, so meat was available all year round. Fruit and vegetables could only be eaten when they were in season.
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scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV you can check a typical tudor dinner here if you like historyonthenet. com/Tudors/food.htm
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@SCROGY "Blueberries
Canned or Glazed Fruits
Cranberries
Currants
Plums**
Prunes**" look at the list of fruits and meats here "ww.rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm"
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV AGAIN. ALL this is based on meat that has had toxic Nitrites added to it. Do you not understand what I am saying here? ALL the studies that say meat is unhealthy are based on meats laden with Nitrites and other synthetic chemicals. All I ask is that you find ONE SINGLE study that uses strict PALEO eaters and not SAD eaters. SAD diet includes processed meats. I really don't know how to get it across to you if this doesn't work.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV and the healthy ones do not just eat meat, they eat plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables, because you cannot survive on meat alone without severe consequences, you can however thrive perfectly well on plant foods, without any meat whatsoever
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV What do you mean calories from animal foods have replaced plant foods? Did Margerine not replace butter? Have grains not been marketed as wholesome and healthy? Has there not been a low fat push for the last 40 years? I don't know where you're getting these stats.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@SCROGY there has been a low fat push, but look around you, its not working. the majority of people eat too much meat and dairy and dont excercise enough, and the majority of people are obese as a direct result, i've never seen a fat vegan, i think its impossible because vegetable fat does not collect in the body in the same way, neither under the skin or in the arteries.
scrambledeggsTV 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV You do realize that fat does not make you fat right? Humans lack the hormone to store dietary fat on it's own. Insulin stores unburned carbs, but humans have no hormone that stores fat by itself (eaten in the absence of carbs). When people say that eating meat makes you fat I know they have no understanding of human biology. Dietary fat CANNOT make you fat because you lack the hormones (what insulin is to carbs or elevated blood sugar) to store it.
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV No, the majority of people eat too many bad carbs. The cereal industry has pushed the benefits of grains on us for 100 years, yet grains are not part of the diet we evolved on. Try this out: It may be different where you live but in Canada your box of Cheerios says: "General Mills donates money to the Heart and Stroke foundation. The H&SF recommends Cheerios as part of a healthy diet, this is not an endorsement." YES IT IS!!! In fact it is a conflict of interest!!!
SCROGY 1 month ago
@scrambledeggsTV And in case you didn't noticed, vegetable and Soya oils have almost ENTIRELY replaced coconut oil and lard in most foods. In fact the Soy industry in the US has all but put the coconut oil industry out of business.
SCROGY 1 month ago
No one will take this dude seriously as long as he insults the people that he doesn't agree with. Sally Fatton? No one is trying to shoot the messenger, it's just that the messenger is being a pompous douche. And I don't know why he goes on about SAD when real meat eaters eat Paleo. Don't eat animals because it's better for me? No it's not.
SCROGY 2 months ago
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TheRawvoice 3 months ago
@TheRawvoice why?
DariaProductions 2 months ago
Is Harley getting all emotional at the 55 second mark??
fitprotunes 3 months ago
We should eat all vegans.
Antiks72 4 months ago 2
@StoneBeatsScissors So that means humans can get fat eating grass? Hey moron, if you want to compare animals, compare humans with humans but thats right, you think drinking milk from cows and horses is NATURAL for humans lol!
Im the scissor, sharp. Your the stone. STONED.
durianrider 4 months ago
@durianrider Nope his mom didn't breastfeed him because breast milk has CASEIN protein, which is toxic to your body! Haahahahahaha. Maybe Autism is linked to casein milk in formulas rather than mammalian produced milk, eh?
thespecter2 3 months ago
people don't confuse your passion with aggression...you are extremely aggressive toward anyone who questions you....you are an asshole. aggression does not equal physical violence either. they are not mutually exclusive. i like your info a lot of times but you are a pompous ass in you delivery method...in my opinion.
bkershaccount 4 months ago
@StoneBeatsScissors, I was responding to faulty logic by making the same pattern of argument based on his, yet you throw out strawmen arguments. You attack Doritos when it has nothing to do with veganism as they use animal products. A healthy vegan diet is mainly of plant foods, not chips that MEAT EATERS consume. Humans are fat and they eat meat. See, I can do that too. You're obviously ignorant of nutrition and refuse to acknowledge the benefits of an all plant diet. Read a book imbecile.
LloydChristmas777 4 months ago
@LloydChristmas777 Eating meat doesn't make you fat. Anyone that thinks that needs to go back to Biology 101.
SCROGY 2 months ago
@SCROGY, Did you read into the context of the conversation or simply picked a side based on what's closest to your diet?
LloydChristmas777 2 months ago
@LloydChristmas777 NO, I made a legit point. And my diet (paleo) is based on evolution not emotions.
SCROGY 2 months ago
@SCROGY, Just as I thought: You didn't read the whole conversation nor cared about the context. Just wanted to jump in and defend your diet when it wasn't really about diet at all. Insecurity and ignorance in one. Congrats.
And since you brought it up: Enjoy your temporary success on your over-consumption of protein. Enjoy being skinny fat and unhealthy, and your increased chance of disease. But hey, as long as you blame carbs (good or bad) and find excuses to eat tonnes of meat right?
LloydChristmas777 2 months ago
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@LloydChristmas777 ........I have been an athlete for my whole life and I am certainly not skinny fat. It's hilarious that you have made what, five separate assumptions about me and made three separate false claims about my diet in this one post? Congrats. I don't need excuses to eat meat. Nature has designed me to do so.
SCROGY 2 months ago
@LloydChristmas777 I understood it perfectly. You don't seem to understand that. I was referring to his comment on a gun scope/knife not being natural yet he rides a factory made bike. BTW: I dead lift 2x bodyweight and chin 63% of my BW added around my waist. I have a purple belt in BJJ and do 200 burpees as fast as possible in my HIIT sessions (20 sets of 10). I do Wendlers 5/3/1 (look it up) for strength and train 6 days a week. Any time you want to come train with me you are welcome...
SCROGY 2 months ago
@LloydChristmas777 Oh BTW: You're a coward. You block people that don't agree with you? Surest sign of someone that is afraid to defend his position. I never called you names or insulted you so you really have no reason to block me other than the fact that you know you are wrong or don't like what I am saying. You people are posting on a public forum but are afraid any time someone challenges your vegan BS. Thanks for admitting you are wrong by blocking me.
SCROGY 2 months ago
Because of delicious meat!
dudafty 4 months ago
My poops are mean!!!!
dudafty 4 months ago
I eat MEAT! It tastes AWESOME!!!! I put sauce in it! SAUCE!!!!!!!!
dudafty 4 months ago
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warwize 4 months ago