Islam will not change. Perhaps you can modify the behavior of some Muslims, but that is as far as you are going to get. Her Father was not a 'good' Muslim (her words), so her image of Islam may or may not be accurate. He was a violent man who did not practice Islam (her words). My question is: Why are you on so many talk shows attempting to represent Islam? GET THE HOOK
What an amazing brave woman! She is one of a handful of people who takes on this potitical religion and can make a scholarly argument. As I write you now with my headphones on in the mid-east , Ican still hear at east 5 different Imans from different mosques screaming their scholarly argument to kill destroyy and revenge "the West" Also known as anyone who disagrees with them. Muslim or not. My Arab neihbors are held hostage to this -they must agree or be ostrisized.
@dhagaas92 WHAT allah...why do you keep dribbling about this mythical allah..the one who your imams say INTENTIONALLY MURDERED/MAIMED all boxing day tsunami victims
you are SUCH a pitiful weak coward lol....you cant answer the most simple questions re your own koran...and oooze DISHONESTY
so what allah...and is sticking your ass in air/supporting human misery/controlled by taught fears/being ignorant the 'right path' LOL
@abdullahalmahmood " ... to guide her fahther and make him carry out the duty" - and you are a murderer! You should go to prison and get a few drugs, that's where you belong
yea ur right its adipus comples trauma that turn into her vicious thoughts to make rest of the men and muslim world think miserable about them, o she is a devil in disguise in the name of freedom of speech,
why all such mother fucking hated persons turn into hatwful resentment against their own creator, wow
What better proof is there but people like freebee007 that islam is a completely fascist and totalitarian death cult, that even turns their own members into soon to be dead victims, as soon as they start to use their own brain. What is the human race for if not using your own brain?
Problem is with such resentfull people who can not remain impartial while rationalizing any issue , they are the victim of abuse so its the reflex of pain and abuse they interm fo on the rest of the human. Do not blindly take any one on his or her face value,
infact social, moral, structural, econimic problems are verywher in all religions, in all societies and are contextuals rather than one solution fits every one.
globalization, is evil designe of capilatistic, and masonic societies
@ freebee007, pseudointellectual "blabla". It's nothing 2 do with what she said. But however, globalisation& capitalism r in fact a problem, yes. For social etc reasons but foremostly, because it''s a major interest of international corporations to promote islam, as solidarity among workers' lessens due to a growing workforce (by islamic immigration) and solidarity erodes due to conflicts caused by an invading totalitarian ideology. Poverty & despair give further way to religious fundamentalism
yea if u dnt get my point u lable me aspseudo intelectual, but i would say ur quite introvert and say islam as totalitarian, i think capitalistic freemasons made islamic countrues to be defensive , freemasons also have a fundamental agenda, denounce all religious practices, devil advocacy, pornographym media brainwash, hating christ , muhamad etc,
YOU are falling for Arab propaganda that demonizes the West in order 2 brainwash and use you. I've made you an offer. You can try to reflect on your own beliefs or not, grow up or not. You're contradicting yourself. Jesus practised EXACTLY the opposite of what MUHAMMED. If you want to know more about it, let me know and I'll give u some recommendations about videos or books because I don't have the time 2 teach u about everything myself. And there r excellent sources everywhere.
man i am not falling to any body's propaganda, neither i m advocating any religion, i believe in secularism, but at the same time its clear that there could be many ways to justify ones point,
we need peace of mind n life not wars.
good luck i respect ur point of view u get it by ur experiences
Nobody believes some one to be "secular" and free from propaganda if they believe in devil advocacy or Jewish conspiracies. Alone this proves that u are still deeply influenced by your religion and media that is desperately looking for scapegoates. If you are allegedly tolerant then you should not just - allegedly - respect my point of view, but also that of others like Irshad. Peace!
Apart fr that, just the fact that somebody used to b a victim, makes him/her able to see the truth (the "other" hidden side that you r refusing to see). At least as long as they r aware about their victim satus, which is the case for her. You, on the other hand are the victim of a totalitarian ideology, too but you're not even realising it, living in denial. People like u are the problem therefore, who are brainwashed and struggle with all forces to deceive not just others but even themselves
@abdullahalmahmood Indeed it has been washed so much there's nothing else but the koran any more - just toxic delusion left, no natural morals or shame.
I on the contrary wish you knowledge (not de- or illusion) despite all odds
@DreamFreedom1 dont lie, you dont know me, i dont just recite the qur'aan alone, i am very smart when it comes to my academic education, and work hard on it, but its only just to get by this world, and this world is not much to me.
i look forward to going to paradise, where i can see the almighty lored, and find millions of beeeeeaaaaaaauuuuuutifull women in there,that are nothing except for my pleasure. and ofcourse, many other enjoyments, anyone who reads about it, would go crazy.
@abdullahalmahmood What's new? We Westerners know very well that you guys are deemed to sexual frustration by the islamic mafia organisation and you long for a brothel after-life (the frustration leads you to aggressivity in return&war-mongering&hate towards the "unbelievers") &while you torture and kill your own sisters for what you think is heavenly reward for you. In ur religion there's nothing spiritual, nothing intellectual, nothing self-critical. That's why ur absolutely useleless on earth
@abdullahalmahmood you STUPID wimp...you are NOT SMART rea ceademics at all
how sad....that you have this PERVERSELY UNHEALTHY life, such a shallow life, where it means nothing to you
yes yes...you are looking forward to black eyed virgins & smooth boys to screw...except scholars admit these 'stories' were never intended to be taken literally
It's really not that complicated: Muslim civilization had it's golden age almost a thousand years ago. It closed itself off during the Ottoman empire and fell behind the West eventually becoming the third world without incident. The discovery of oil led to the subjugation by the west of the tattered remains of Muslim civilization leading to increasingly squalid conditions.
Some of those living in said squalid conditions turned to scripture as desperate of any faith often tend to looking for answers or justification to avenge themselves against those they believe are responsible for their plight. This is nothing new or profound. Irshad's analysis is in a vacuum and ignores history and context.
Irshad Manji is probably one of the greatest humans to ever live. Islam will change for the better because of her. Her beliefs are a testament to her life hitherto.
@vancouverbluz - No it won't because we Muslim don't want a lesbian telling us this. Islam is against Homosexuality and if this particular lesbian telling us this we will hit the roof.
I see all of these complaints, but I doubt ANYONE has actually read her book. It's not fair to judge her from just a 5-minute clip. I recommend her book to everyone!
It's funny what she's saying seems to be going right over Glen Beck's head....he just doesn't seem to be paying enough attention. Maybe it's because of the fact that a not very attractive dyke is sitting before him. I think Beck pays more attention when brigette gabriel pays him visits. Gabriel wears skimpy minis but keeps her legs tightly crossed :D
LOL In relation to her father with whom she had a s troubled relationship she says she made the choice (at age 10) to "never wind up in this situation". Sounds like the reason that propelled her towards lesbianism. :P
a combination of social factors, how you grow up, PLUS how you were born (ie. psychosis) are involved with something like the inclination to terminate the life of someone else. unlike homosexuality. you're not born straight, then one day decide/choose to be gay/bi and viceversa. but im sure homophobe misogynist right wing christians and their god know different;)
i love the fact that i can hop on a plane to vegas and marry the fist slut i see, i dont love her, i dont care about her, she may be the bride of Mengele...while 2 women who've been together for over 20 years, raised healthy happy children, love each other madly, cannot/are unable to get married, moreover they are conveniently shelved onto the same level as pedofiles, murderers, and alcoholics (individuals with little/no regard for their own lives or the lives of others), by people like you.
irshad's talked about this before within the koran. you know what else used to be "NOT RIGHT"? women and coloured people being treated as human beings. but you know what, im told that if you pray hard enough, you can be a *STRAIGHT *WHITE *MAN.
Discussing the base ignorance of your comment is pointless. Your indoctrination is so rigid and complete that one could achieve better constructive debate with a washing machine. However, know that the tide is turning. The backlash has finally begun. Turkey's announcement of major Islamic reform yesterday is being celebrated across the global web. Most telling, like the thousands of downloads of Irshad Manji's book from Islamic countries, a huge proportion of the support is muslim.
Her answer is so convincing that I feel Muslim countries will soon change their laws to match. I think honor crimes against women might soon become illegal in the whole Muslim world: No more forced veiling and more integration of lesbians and gays.
She is not a brave woman but an opportunistic woman. Her father is violent man and he is not a PRACTICISING Islam. That says it all. Her narrow minded ness and your arrogance do not serve you well. By her own admission, a man, not the religion is violent
Irshad Manji is a marginal muslim. She calls for homosexuality to be acceptable in Islam. Muslims we must define ourselves, rather than leaving it to people like Irshad Manji (Umm Jahl).
Tell us, Salodrak, what should be done with the tall poppies who talk about Muslim lies? Shall s/he be raped, mutilated, tortured? Would this be done according to the word of God?
Yes, I do believe fascist Muslims who lie through their teeth should be mercifully killed. Actually, since I believe all Muslims are like that, I would prefer a method that does not involve the death of soldiers on the non-Muslim side. The only method currently available is nuclear. If it worked in Japan it most certainly will work against the Muslims, only this time on a much larger scale.
Lying justifies death? Being a Muslim justifies death? So, you are a proponent of genocide? You sound as murderous as as any terrorist. What separates you from radical fundamentalists who want to eradicate those who do not believe as they do? What makes you right and millions upon millions of Muslims wrong?
starcatcher099 DOES NOT WANT to talk, but wants to throw insults. Your anger does not serve you or your fight! If you are right - you should have no problem aproaching it with intelligence.
Islam will not change. Perhaps you can modify the behavior of some Muslims, but that is as far as you are going to get. Her Father was not a 'good' Muslim (her words), so her image of Islam may or may not be accurate. He was a violent man who did not practice Islam (her words). My question is: Why are you on so many talk shows attempting to represent Islam? GET THE HOOK
hamzah938 6 months ago
'To kill a single human being would be as if they have killed the human race'
This is a verse from the Quran that has been roughly translated but the meaning is exact.
If terrorists were to use Islam as a reason to kill innocent people why would this verse be in the Quran.
Inshallah this women is guided to the right path
ownagefan1 7 months ago
meforum(dot)org/2870/islamists-on-welfare
MELISSA84008 8 months ago
What an amazing brave woman! She is one of a handful of people who takes on this potitical religion and can make a scholarly argument. As I write you now with my headphones on in the mid-east , Ican still hear at east 5 different Imans from different mosques screaming their scholarly argument to kill destroyy and revenge "the West" Also known as anyone who disagrees with them. Muslim or not. My Arab neihbors are held hostage to this -they must agree or be ostrisized.
holyland08 9 months ago
I sure would question my beliefs if Glen Beck was so respectful towards my views and beliefs...that in itself says a lot about her views and beliefs
aziz689 1 year ago
She is satans best friend, may Allah guide her to the right path.
dhagaas92 1 year ago
@dhagaas92 WHAT allah...why do you keep dribbling about this mythical allah..the one who your imams say INTENTIONALLY MURDERED/MAIMED all boxing day tsunami victims
you are SUCH a pitiful weak coward lol....you cant answer the most simple questions re your own koran...and oooze DISHONESTY
so what allah...and is sticking your ass in air/supporting human misery/controlled by taught fears/being ignorant the 'right path' LOL
proudfemale 1 year ago
@dhagaas92 Allah is a false god and a demon. May God save you from your violent, false faith.
MyEspresso911 1 year ago
may allah to guide her father and make him carry out the duty!!!!
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
@abdullahalmahmood " ... to guide her fahther and make him carry out the duty" - and you are a murderer! You should go to prison and get a few drugs, that's where you belong
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago
ISLAM IS AN EVIL IN DISGUISE! They denied every "accusations" based on FACT ...what a complete ..&^OY(*&)(&!
calciumkid85 1 year ago
Let me add for balance: Glenn Beck is an idiot.
tpjl25 1 year ago
I think daddy chasing her with a kitchen knife did a number on her - explains a lot ;).
akhtrah 2 years ago
her dad was a violent ,crazy son of a bitch. no wonder she turned lesbian.
xingyimaster1987 2 years ago
yea ur right its adipus comples trauma that turn into her vicious thoughts to make rest of the men and muslim world think miserable about them, o she is a devil in disguise in the name of freedom of speech,
why all such mother fucking hated persons turn into hatwful resentment against their own creator, wow
freebee007 2 years ago
What better proof is there but people like freebee007 that islam is a completely fascist and totalitarian death cult, that even turns their own members into soon to be dead victims, as soon as they start to use their own brain. What is the human race for if not using your own brain?
DreamFreedom1 2 years ago
Problem is with such resentfull people who can not remain impartial while rationalizing any issue , they are the victim of abuse so its the reflex of pain and abuse they interm fo on the rest of the human. Do not blindly take any one on his or her face value,
infact social, moral, structural, econimic problems are verywher in all religions, in all societies and are contextuals rather than one solution fits every one.
globalization, is evil designe of capilatistic, and masonic societies
freebee007 2 years ago
@ freebee007, pseudointellectual "blabla". It's nothing 2 do with what she said. But however, globalisation& capitalism r in fact a problem, yes. For social etc reasons but foremostly, because it''s a major interest of international corporations to promote islam, as solidarity among workers' lessens due to a growing workforce (by islamic immigration) and solidarity erodes due to conflicts caused by an invading totalitarian ideology. Poverty & despair give further way to religious fundamentalism
DreamFreedom1 2 years ago
yea if u dnt get my point u lable me aspseudo intelectual, but i would say ur quite introvert and say islam as totalitarian, i think capitalistic freemasons made islamic countrues to be defensive , freemasons also have a fundamental agenda, denounce all religious practices, devil advocacy, pornographym media brainwash, hating christ , muhamad etc,
u look like a devil;s advicate 666
freebee007 2 years ago
YOU are falling for Arab propaganda that demonizes the West in order 2 brainwash and use you. I've made you an offer. You can try to reflect on your own beliefs or not, grow up or not. You're contradicting yourself. Jesus practised EXACTLY the opposite of what MUHAMMED. If you want to know more about it, let me know and I'll give u some recommendations about videos or books because I don't have the time 2 teach u about everything myself. And there r excellent sources everywhere.
DreamFreedom1 2 years ago
man i am not falling to any body's propaganda, neither i m advocating any religion, i believe in secularism, but at the same time its clear that there could be many ways to justify ones point,
we need peace of mind n life not wars.
good luck i respect ur point of view u get it by ur experiences
freebee007 2 years ago
Nobody believes some one to be "secular" and free from propaganda if they believe in devil advocacy or Jewish conspiracies. Alone this proves that u are still deeply influenced by your religion and media that is desperately looking for scapegoates. If you are allegedly tolerant then you should not just - allegedly - respect my point of view, but also that of others like Irshad. Peace!
DreamFreedom1 2 years ago
Well i m a students and a teacher and keep on learning with open mind n i appreciate her vigor the way she presents aurguements,
I would like to furter reserch that wheather,
freemasonery, illuminati n ba bla symbolysm are true coming of antichrist 2012 is true or just deceptions, where lies the truth,
in atheism tell me convince me please
thanks
freebee007 2 years ago
Apart fr that, just the fact that somebody used to b a victim, makes him/her able to see the truth (the "other" hidden side that you r refusing to see). At least as long as they r aware about their victim satus, which is the case for her. You, on the other hand are the victim of a totalitarian ideology, too but you're not even realising it, living in denial. People like u are the problem therefore, who are brainwashed and struggle with all forces to deceive not just others but even themselves
DreamFreedom1 2 years ago
yea she has every right to become lesbo as she hate men n mesculanity n all religious torch bearers are perdominantly men la la la wow
freebee007 2 years ago
Only bcause she feels sexually attracted to women, you claim she hates men??
DreamFreedom1 2 years ago
@DreamFreedom1 hey listen lady, homosexuality is forbidden in islam.and are punished in thisworld and will be terrorised in the hereafter.
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
@abdullahalmahmood The only thing that has already been terrorised is your brain by serious "koran washing". I wish all the best for your sanity
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago
@DreamFreedom1 certainly, my brain has been washed and cleansed by the qur'aan.i just hope to memorise it and act upon it.say ameen for me.
i wish all the best for finding faith.
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
@abdullahalmahmood Indeed it has been washed so much there's nothing else but the koran any more - just toxic delusion left, no natural morals or shame.
I on the contrary wish you knowledge (not de- or illusion) despite all odds
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago 2
@DreamFreedom1 dont lie, you dont know me, i dont just recite the qur'aan alone, i am very smart when it comes to my academic education, and work hard on it, but its only just to get by this world, and this world is not much to me.
i look forward to going to paradise, where i can see the almighty lored, and find millions of beeeeeaaaaaaauuuuuutifull women in there,that are nothing except for my pleasure. and ofcourse, many other enjoyments, anyone who reads about it, would go crazy.
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
@abdullahalmahmood What's new? We Westerners know very well that you guys are deemed to sexual frustration by the islamic mafia organisation and you long for a brothel after-life (the frustration leads you to aggressivity in return&war-mongering&hate towards the "unbelievers") &while you torture and kill your own sisters for what you think is heavenly reward for you. In ur religion there's nothing spiritual, nothing intellectual, nothing self-critical. That's why ur absolutely useleless on earth
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago
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@DreamFreedom1 meforum(dot)org/2870/islamists-on-welfare
MELISSA84008 8 months ago
@abdullahalmahmood It's absolutely DISGUSTING how PRIMITIVE you are. Even a gorilla has more culture and social empathy than you
DreamFreedom1 1 year ago
@abdullahalmahmood you STUPID wimp...you are NOT SMART rea ceademics at all
how sad....that you have this PERVERSELY UNHEALTHY life, such a shallow life, where it means nothing to you
yes yes...you are looking forward to black eyed virgins & smooth boys to screw...except scholars admit these 'stories' were never intended to be taken literally
the SMART dont of course
proudfemale 1 year ago
@abdullahalmahmood You cannot be intelligent and guide your life following a work of fiction!!!!!
Nice original name too.
nibsvkh 10 months ago
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manji = lesbian whore
BrownSugar4You 4 years ago
ummmm grow up and be a real man
yumlemonjuice 3 years ago
what is a "real man". you juicy faggot.
BrownSugar4You 3 years ago
what is a "real man", you juicy faggot
BrownSugar4You 3 years ago
Finally! The Koran that we all can be proud of. The Koran cleansed of contradictions, violence, and discrimination.
reformislam dot org / koran dot php
MuslimsAgainstSharia 4 years ago
It's really not that complicated: Muslim civilization had it's golden age almost a thousand years ago. It closed itself off during the Ottoman empire and fell behind the West eventually becoming the third world without incident. The discovery of oil led to the subjugation by the west of the tattered remains of Muslim civilization leading to increasingly squalid conditions.
sq1972 4 years ago 9
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Some of those living in said squalid conditions turned to scripture as desperate of any faith often tend to looking for answers or justification to avenge themselves against those they believe are responsible for their plight. This is nothing new or profound. Irshad's analysis is in a vacuum and ignores history and context.
sq1972 4 years ago
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god shes an idiot
Arabstani 4 years ago
shes gay waaaaaaaaaaaaaat
Arabstani 4 years ago
Irshad Manji is probably one of the greatest humans to ever live. Islam will change for the better because of her. Her beliefs are a testament to her life hitherto.
vancouverbluz 4 years ago 6
@vancouverbluz pffff, what a pipe dream you have
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
@vancouverbluz - No it won't because we Muslim don't want a lesbian telling us this. Islam is against Homosexuality and if this particular lesbian telling us this we will hit the roof.
islamtogo 1 week ago
I see all of these complaints, but I doubt ANYONE has actually read her book. It's not fair to judge her from just a 5-minute clip. I recommend her book to everyone!
AchillesShield 4 years ago 2
Liar.
There are scholars that always refute those radical interpretation of certain versus.
The media just ignores it and acts like there aren't any Muslims that are against terrorism.
TheGhastlyGyp 4 years ago
It's funny what she's saying seems to be going right over Glen Beck's head....he just doesn't seem to be paying enough attention. Maybe it's because of the fact that a not very attractive dyke is sitting before him. I think Beck pays more attention when brigette gabriel pays him visits. Gabriel wears skimpy minis but keeps her legs tightly crossed :D
lettherebevideos 4 years ago
LOL In relation to her father with whom she had a s troubled relationship she says she made the choice (at age 10) to "never wind up in this situation". Sounds like the reason that propelled her towards lesbianism. :P
lettherebevideos 4 years ago
u dont turn gay, homo. ure born that way arghh
Menthe831 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
and what abour murderurs and serial killers they are born that way, why dont you just leave to to kill,??
becasue it is not right,
niether is homosexuality.
q80theeb 4 years ago
a combination of social factors, how you grow up, PLUS how you were born (ie. psychosis) are involved with something like the inclination to terminate the life of someone else. unlike homosexuality. you're not born straight, then one day decide/choose to be gay/bi and viceversa. but im sure homophobe misogynist right wing christians and their god know different;)
Menthe831 4 years ago
i love the fact that i can hop on a plane to vegas and marry the fist slut i see, i dont love her, i dont care about her, she may be the bride of Mengele...while 2 women who've been together for over 20 years, raised healthy happy children, love each other madly, cannot/are unable to get married, moreover they are conveniently shelved onto the same level as pedofiles, murderers, and alcoholics (individuals with little/no regard for their own lives or the lives of others), by people like you.
Menthe831 4 years ago
irshad's talked about this before within the koran. you know what else used to be "NOT RIGHT"? women and coloured people being treated as human beings. but you know what, im told that if you pray hard enough, you can be a *STRAIGHT *WHITE *MAN.
Menthe831 4 years ago
Discussing the base ignorance of your comment is pointless. Your indoctrination is so rigid and complete that one could achieve better constructive debate with a washing machine. However, know that the tide is turning. The backlash has finally begun. Turkey's announcement of major Islamic reform yesterday is being celebrated across the global web. Most telling, like the thousands of downloads of Irshad Manji's book from Islamic countries, a huge proportion of the support is muslim.
blackmore4 4 years ago
Her answer is so convincing that I feel Muslim countries will soon change their laws to match. I think honor crimes against women might soon become illegal in the whole Muslim world: No more forced veiling and more integration of lesbians and gays.
freedom2express 4 years ago
She is not a brave woman but an opportunistic woman. Her father is violent man and he is not a PRACTICISING Islam. That says it all. Her narrow minded ness and your arrogance do not serve you well. By her own admission, a man, not the religion is violent
kabaau 4 years ago
Irshad Manji is a marginal muslim. She calls for homosexuality to be acceptable in Islam. Muslims we must define ourselves, rather than leaving it to people like Irshad Manji (Umm Jahl).
Nkomo1 5 years ago
The issue is who is the "we" in your statement. You obviously seem to think you know and that you have already decided. Who are you to say this?
Kelekolio 4 years ago
She is a brave woman.
newtonbrook 5 years ago 2
tallflower shut the #%^$ up. you know what happens to the tall poppies who talk about muslim lies and bullshit don't you?
Salodrak 5 years ago
Tell us, Salodrak, what should be done with the tall poppies who talk about Muslim lies? Shall s/he be raped, mutilated, tortured? Would this be done according to the word of God?
Mezmera 5 years ago
Yes, I do believe fascist Muslims who lie through their teeth should be mercifully killed. Actually, since I believe all Muslims are like that, I would prefer a method that does not involve the death of soldiers on the non-Muslim side. The only method currently available is nuclear. If it worked in Japan it most certainly will work against the Muslims, only this time on a much larger scale.
Salodrak 5 years ago
Lying justifies death? Being a Muslim justifies death? So, you are a proponent of genocide? You sound as murderous as as any terrorist. What separates you from radical fundamentalists who want to eradicate those who do not believe as they do? What makes you right and millions upon millions of Muslims wrong?
Mezmera 5 years ago
starcatcher099 DOES NOT WANT to talk, but wants to throw insults. Your anger does not serve you or your fight! If you are right - you should have no problem aproaching it with intelligence.
tallflower24 5 years ago