these doctors are absolutely correct. those of you who are dedicated to your health insurers remember this. when you have serious health problems or when you can't get coverage because of a pre-existing condition then perhaps you will change your minds.
Or perhaps if it hits your Mom, Dad or children then ?
Mad that we have the best medical technology in the world? We cannot expect that such quality techonolgy is cheap. In addition, individuals do not have the right to have other individuals pay for their care. So why then is it okay for the government to simply be a middle man in the same situation? The idea of being forced into paying for other people's health care is dead wrong. The beauty of capitalism (almost dead in the USA) is that those who work hard are rewarded and there are no sponges.
A basic human right? Move to Canada as it's in their constitution. How about the people's right to decide what their money should be spent on? Or are you living at home and letting mommy pay your bills?
The current congress was voted in by Americans, not liberals, not Democrats, nor conservatives or Republicans alone.
The American people voted them in wanting the best for the country. We do want access to healthcare. We do not want to be throwing each other under the bus.
Harvard study: 45, 789 people a year die BECAUSE they have no heath care coverage. Every month is worse than September 11th. We need a strong Public Option. Americans are living this nightmare and Republicans, Democrats and Independents voted together to put in place a huge majority of Democrats in the House and Senate to get relief from this deadly war against us. We expect you to come through for us.
TRICK OR TREAT??? TRICKED by the Democrats AGAIN! HEALTH CARE.... Democrats "H.C. is needed NOW"... but... WON'T START until 2016! Democrats "TAXES would come LATER to fund health care"... but... TAXES **START** THIS YEAR! Democrats "H.C. premiums will be $2,500.00 lower".... but.... NOW will be $4,000.00 HIGHER! Democrats "public option will NOT be single payer" but... NOW say "public option KILLS private insurers & LEADS to single payer"!
Please listen to the majority of voters, Republican, Democrat and independent:
We are dying of cureable illnesses, by the many, many thousands each year in the United States, and we voted together the way we did to get improvement in our healthcare system. Please stop the carnage and give us what we elected you for, by voting together as we did: A STRONG PUBLIC OPTION, that is not crafted to self-destruct, and that is not intentionally hamstrung for insurance companies' bottom lines.
Howdy Folks... If we want a Strong Public Option in the final bill we need to keep the pressure on folks like Harry Reid. Please visit the comment section of my profile and take a moment to sign the various petitions you will find there in support of the public option. You will also find their phone numbers and other ways in which you can become more active. Thank you.
it used to cost pennies... about (1 dollar the box with 30 pills)...
I took some 3 boxes... and I did not have any inflamation for 30 years!!!... Wonderfull... guess what??? one year after (1971) the medicine vanish from the drugstores... NOW... 2009, you can order it in some small quantities for "special cases" at 100 dollars the same box!!! only in USA.... I bet your doctor does not know about it... because if you take that pill you will not need antibiotics for the next 20 years..
1) who/which is the most powerfull nation in the planet?
2) I do not see problem with the trilion/zilions dollars debit, as no one will ever pay it.. money today is only numbers in some computers..
3) if the doctors continue treating people the way they did in 1960, there will be no fix, for example: I am now 57, when I was 22, (in 1970...) I suffered from inflamation on throat, fever.. it was cronic...antibiotics did not fixed it... so they "invented" a new pill...
I do not live in USA, but as far as I could see... Are you all telling that there is NO PUBLIC HEALTH care in the most powerfull nation of the planet??? that the USA citzen must all pay for a private medical care that only thinks of money???? and if the citzen dos not have enough money, or the insurance decides that hi/her is no longer "profitable" LET THEM DIE????? again: in the most powerfull nation in the planet????? UNBELIAVEBLE!!!!!!!!!
USA isnt the most powerful nation in the world, they are trillions in debt, the puppet government purposely poisons their citizens in every aspect of their lives,they have a bad education system(no child left behind), low quality of food and water which as a result cause illnesses (fluoride, aspartame, corn syrup to name a couple). I understand that all governments are corrupt to some degree, but this just takes the biscuit. Americans should revolt!
We have Medicare for our elderly and Medicaid for poor families. They are government run, but they're imperfect at this point; Medicare in particular costs a lot of tax payer money, partly because of stupid compromises like, agreeing not to negotiate lower medicine costs (as to not hurt the Pharmaceutical Companies) even though that RIDICULOUS because Tax Payer money is used to pay for those drugs, and without being able to negotiate lower costs, we directly pay for their enormous profits!
that being said, it is a really complicated issue and there are many reasons why health care is expensive / why we don't cover enough people, ranging from Insurance Companies just caring about profits above human life to Government being the problem because of all of their regulations and interference. It depends on what politician you want to listen to, but for all i believe it's probably a mix of all of those things.
How many doctors were there? How many were at the 9/12 Tea Party demonstration?? RT understand that your reporting bias is clear on this point. Please also understand that the U.S. is and ever will be a federal republic where people do not want decisions made by Big Brother such as medical care -- if our separate States want to do that fine -- but not our cumbersome giant of a Federal Government. Why don't you ask these protestors just how much corruption and waste is in Medicare???
What by creating a 45 plus behemoth agency? It would be the first time in history that increasing Federal power and bureacracy actually makes the economy more efficient.
I do not need preventative care. I need joint aspiration, MRI, other testing, a diagnosis, and medication so I can work and move. They do not want to pay for that. They want to give me a diet and asthma inhaler and say I am fine. All these plans say the same crap, no care for the ill, just preventative classes and pay more. New plan?
So, how do the poorest people they want to have this health care, pay their $25,000 fine for not being able to pay for even the cheapest of Obamas health plans?
People are already helped by the Federal law which requires EDs in every hospital to treat anyone (even illegal aliens coming in ambulances over the border) who gets within 250 yards of an ED.
I don't call any of them doctors.... reason because they sit there and complain about who needs doctor care for fucks sakes they are doctors does it matter who needs care... they just want more money in their greedy pockets don't trust any doctors today... greedy fucks..
This is not about providing medical care to all - it is about CONTROL plain and simple. Remember a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take it all away.
When did they take Social Security away - it has been going since 1935. Bush wanted to take it away and put it in the stock market. Some solution that would have been. You are spouting nonsense. It is about taking care of everyone. The private insurance is about profits.
Doctors are the reason for high Health Care cost. If they really care and want to help, why don't they take a pay cut? Answer= They want guarunteed pay and to not have to compete as hard for it.
BTW Why ain't the police attacking those doctors like they did the protestors in PA?
If these doctors spent less time protesting and were out helping the poor, there would be more healthcare available to the poor. They are either cynically demanding that their terms of trade and minimum compensation is guaranteed by government fiat. Or are acting as unwitting dupes for a medical industry already entrenched within the federal government.
These doctors ARE helping the poor! Providing universal health care will guarantee effective treatment, like early diagnosis and preventative care, to the poor. Charity is what we have now. It doesn't work and causes tens of thousands of death annually. What you call "the medical industry entrenched within the federal government" is the Veterans Administration and Medicare, which outperforms the private sector at lower cost.
Charity would work if the majority of it was not being used as a subsidy to 'our elite' of the developing world. Universal healthcare will only guarantee the federal government a compulsory federal tax with which to expand the money supply, and extend its executive authority via 17% of the US economy. Healthcare will not be improved and will be even more expensive, with the cost hidden in rising prices throughout the economy.
Actually if the government allowed drs to deduct the cost of providing care to indigent patients from their income tax this problem would be solved overnight.But the powers that be want to create a massive and powerful beuracracy that empowers and enriches themselves at our expense.Its all a hoax folks.
The Constitution says nothing prohibiting national healthcare. It's nice to see doctors more interested in their patients health and not profits for greedy healthcare companies and insurance companies!
The Word Made Flesh, Yeshua/JESUS didn't need universal health care - He cured the blind, deft nearly dead and dead people alike, no chemicals, no pharmaceuticals, he did use the earth to rub on the blind man's eye but hardly a cat scan, mri, blah blah blah was needed for the Lord to heal.
The story of the sumerian is a good example of our Lords request for health care, not paid for by a government, but done one on one helping as you can. and trust in God is a must ==> FAITH is Key
also, 2 mil ppl showed up to dc a few weeks ago opposing govt interference, and when i say govt, im referring to the FEDERAL govt. you see, doctors, there is something called the constitutiion, and it doesnt permit this
First of all, you side-stepped the points I made about doctors playing dumb.
Secondly, the Park Service admitted it was approximately 2,000,000 people.
Thirdly, if you like polls so much, you can accept that the govt is so bad that the people in a recent poll 65% say that they won't take the new H1N1 vaccine that the gov't is pushing.
Fourthly, if you like mob rule, you'll love this poll: only one tenth of one percent of students can get every question right , in OK, of citizen test.
2,000,000 at the 9/12 Tea Party I believe. 2,000 at this one seems about right.
One poster reads: Care is a human right. Strange that virtues and love are put into terms of legal rights. There is nothing in our Federal Constitution or Declaration which says medical care is an inalienable right. The poster is hogwash.
Yeah the constitution doesn't say a lot of stuff but it does say the Govt. should promote THE GENERAL WELFARE or the commonwealth. Health care is clearly a part of that. Its not a commidity like corvettes or guitars. Either wages and production need to be at a level where people can afford health care or medicare for all. Its like central park, do you want to sell it off or do you want it for people to enjoy?
margaret flowers, please fight the ins company in free market ways. giving the corporate friends, the govt , power is not a good solution, its not very smart nor is it creative. come on, you're doctors.
It's a terrible state of affairs. Laws are in place to allow businesses to capitalize crazily with health care, so people of course look to the government thinking the businesses are too greedy.
They are too greedy of course, but the laws in place allowed that situation to come about.
They'll be asking government to foot the bill. The US is far beyond broke. They have to cut most of their spending before any of these healthcare issues.
these doctors are absolutely correct. those of you who are dedicated to your health insurers remember this. when you have serious health problems or when you can't get coverage because of a pre-existing condition then perhaps you will change your minds.
Or perhaps if it hits your Mom, Dad or children then ?
granger18trains 1 year ago
Mad that we have the best medical technology in the world? We cannot expect that such quality techonolgy is cheap. In addition, individuals do not have the right to have other individuals pay for their care. So why then is it okay for the government to simply be a middle man in the same situation? The idea of being forced into paying for other people's health care is dead wrong. The beauty of capitalism (almost dead in the USA) is that those who work hard are rewarded and there are no sponges.
korriban129 2 years ago
A basic human right? Move to Canada as it's in their constitution. How about the people's right to decide what their money should be spent on? Or are you living at home and letting mommy pay your bills?
Migsoon 2 years ago 2
0:23 I bet she's mad with her 6 figure income... but no, its not about profit.
Lower your costs so insurance companies can lower theres.
HSA's are the answer....take responsibility for your own health spending.
csgforme 2 years ago 2
Contact your politicians.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago 5
The current congress was voted in by Americans, not liberals, not Democrats, nor conservatives or Republicans alone.
The American people voted them in wanting the best for the country. We do want access to healthcare. We do not want to be throwing each other under the bus.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago 7
Stop trivializing this problem. Every month is worse than September 11th.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago 5
Please use your intellectual abilities to make the situation better.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago 5
Harvard study: 45, 789 people a year die BECAUSE they have no heath care coverage. Every month is worse than September 11th. We need a strong Public Option. Americans are living this nightmare and Republicans, Democrats and Independents voted together to put in place a huge majority of Democrats in the House and Senate to get relief from this deadly war against us. We expect you to come through for us.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago 6
LATEST POLLS!!!!!
55% OPPOSE the health care plan by Democrats
42% FAVOR the health care plan by Democrats!
bigtex501 2 years ago
bigtex501 2 years ago
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TRICK OR TREAT???
TRICKED by the Democrats AGAIN!
ACORN....
Sept 2009 Democrats vote to DE-FUND ACORN....
HOWEVER..
The vote is ONLY good for 30 DAYS!
On Halloween Night.....
ACORN is BACK IN THE MONEY!!!!
And... will get that $8,500,000,000.00 stimulus MONEY PROMISED by obama!!!
bigtex501 2 years ago
i consider universal healthcare a basic human right!
ancabamo 2 years ago 4
Please listen to the majority of voters, Republican, Democrat and independent:
We are dying of cureable illnesses, by the many, many thousands each year in the United States, and we voted together the way we did to get improvement in our healthcare system. Please stop the carnage and give us what we elected you for, by voting together as we did: A STRONG PUBLIC OPTION, that is not crafted to self-destruct, and that is not intentionally hamstrung for insurance companies' bottom lines.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago 9
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Howdy Folks... If we want a Strong Public Option in the final bill we need to keep the pressure on folks like Harry Reid. Please visit the comment section of my profile and take a moment to sign the various petitions you will find there in support of the public option. You will also find their phone numbers and other ways in which you can become more active. Thank you.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
thats capatilism you paulsy losers shut your faces you communists. go back to smoking dope you lost hippies
tendonfist 2 years ago
it used to cost pennies... about (1 dollar the box with 30 pills)...
I took some 3 boxes... and I did not have any inflamation for 30 years!!!... Wonderfull... guess what??? one year after (1971) the medicine vanish from the drugstores... NOW... 2009, you can order it in some small quantities for "special cases" at 100 dollars the same box!!! only in USA.... I bet your doctor does not know about it... because if you take that pill you will not need antibiotics for the next 20 years..
extremelydangerous 2 years ago
thinking again....
1) who/which is the most powerfull nation in the planet?
2) I do not see problem with the trilion/zilions dollars debit, as no one will ever pay it.. money today is only numbers in some computers..
3) if the doctors continue treating people the way they did in 1960, there will be no fix, for example: I am now 57, when I was 22, (in 1970...) I suffered from inflamation on throat, fever.. it was cronic...antibiotics did not fixed it... so they "invented" a new pill...
extremelydangerous 2 years ago
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Smulan45 2 years ago
Get rid of the lobbyists and your problems will start getting solved.
exacerbatedtaboo 2 years ago
I do not live in USA, but as far as I could see... Are you all telling that there is NO PUBLIC HEALTH care in the most powerfull nation of the planet??? that the USA citzen must all pay for a private medical care that only thinks of money???? and if the citzen dos not have enough money, or the insurance decides that hi/her is no longer "profitable" LET THEM DIE????? again: in the most powerfull nation in the planet????? UNBELIAVEBLE!!!!!!!!!
extremelydangerous 2 years ago
Actually there's a lot of public healthcare in this country. A lot more than private healthcare.
sniper6081 2 years ago
USA isnt the most powerful nation in the world, they are trillions in debt, the puppet government purposely poisons their citizens in every aspect of their lives,they have a bad education system(no child left behind), low quality of food and water which as a result cause illnesses (fluoride, aspartame, corn syrup to name a couple). I understand that all governments are corrupt to some degree, but this just takes the biscuit. Americans should revolt!
Aslana1 2 years ago
We have Medicare for our elderly and Medicaid for poor families. They are government run, but they're imperfect at this point; Medicare in particular costs a lot of tax payer money, partly because of stupid compromises like, agreeing not to negotiate lower medicine costs (as to not hurt the Pharmaceutical Companies) even though that RIDICULOUS because Tax Payer money is used to pay for those drugs, and without being able to negotiate lower costs, we directly pay for their enormous profits!
asphyxiafeeling 2 years ago
that being said, it is a really complicated issue and there are many reasons why health care is expensive / why we don't cover enough people, ranging from Insurance Companies just caring about profits above human life to Government being the problem because of all of their regulations and interference. It depends on what politician you want to listen to, but for all i believe it's probably a mix of all of those things.
asphyxiafeeling 2 years ago
Oh and why didn't you ask these people whether they knew exactly what a f--king mess the Russian Government Healthcare program is???
mattlewis66 2 years ago
How many doctors were there? How many were at the 9/12 Tea Party demonstration?? RT understand that your reporting bias is clear on this point. Please also understand that the U.S. is and ever will be a federal republic where people do not want decisions made by Big Brother such as medical care -- if our separate States want to do that fine -- but not our cumbersome giant of a Federal Government. Why don't you ask these protestors just how much corruption and waste is in Medicare???
mattlewis66 2 years ago
The corruption and waste is BIGGER by far in private healthcare. The corruption and waste in MediCare is going to be fixed by Obama.
NShutterbug 2 years ago
What by creating a 45 plus behemoth agency? It would be the first time in history that increasing Federal power and bureacracy actually makes the economy more efficient.
mattlewis66 2 years ago 3
Health Care will not serve their agenda ?,but warfare will...NWO
iHaleem 2 years ago
I do not need preventative care. I need joint aspiration, MRI, other testing, a diagnosis, and medication so I can work and move. They do not want to pay for that. They want to give me a diet and asthma inhaler and say I am fine. All these plans say the same crap, no care for the ill, just preventative classes and pay more. New plan?
phnixlady 2 years ago
So, how do the poorest people they want to have this health care, pay their $25,000 fine for not being able to pay for even the cheapest of Obamas health plans?
Talexa66 2 years ago
People who cannot pay will be HELPED by the Obama plan. Can't you read?
NShutterbug 2 years ago
People are already helped by the Federal law which requires EDs in every hospital to treat anyone (even illegal aliens coming in ambulances over the border) who gets within 250 yards of an ED.
mattlewis66 2 years ago 3
LOL, riiiiiiight.
Talexa66 2 years ago
I don't call any of them doctors.... reason because they sit there and complain about who needs doctor care for fucks sakes they are doctors does it matter who needs care... they just want more money in their greedy pockets don't trust any doctors today... greedy fucks..
cocaaaacolaaaa 2 years ago
I dunno. Every other civilized country in the world seems to manage.
A31Chris 2 years ago 3
This is not about providing medical care to all - it is about CONTROL plain and simple. Remember a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take it all away.
GlobalMinority 2 years ago
When did they take Social Security away - it has been going since 1935. Bush wanted to take it away and put it in the stock market. Some solution that would have been. You are spouting nonsense. It is about taking care of everyone. The private insurance is about profits.
NShutterbug 2 years ago
obviously all are agent provocateur's. Hense no need for sound cannons and APF.
What a crotch of chit!
AlmightyJerk 2 years ago
call out the jackboots, these protesters need to be dealt with and dispersed, round them up and waterboard them all..
they need sound cannons and tazers for this unruly mob...
oh wait, they agree with obama?
nevermind...
Free speech is only for agreeable speech, if you disagree you spew hate speech..
if we stopped giving billions to israel we could afford health care..
giantshadows 2 years ago 5
The government is the biggest "barrier to care".
boxant 2 years ago 2
Doctors are the reason for high Health Care cost. If they really care and want to help, why don't they take a pay cut? Answer= They want guarunteed pay and to not have to compete as hard for it.
BTW Why ain't the police attacking those doctors like they did the protestors in PA?
ronniestuff08 2 years ago
What health insurance company do you work for?
A31Chris 2 years ago 2
The one that says take care of your own health and you won't have to worry about the government taking care of you.
ronniestuff08 2 years ago
Doctors and Politicians only. lol
ronniestuff08 2 years ago 2
If these doctors spent less time protesting and were out helping the poor, there would be more healthcare available to the poor. They are either cynically demanding that their terms of trade and minimum compensation is guaranteed by government fiat. Or are acting as unwitting dupes for a medical industry already entrenched within the federal government.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
These doctors ARE helping the poor! Providing universal health care will guarantee effective treatment, like early diagnosis and preventative care, to the poor. Charity is what we have now. It doesn't work and causes tens of thousands of death annually. What you call "the medical industry entrenched within the federal government" is the Veterans Administration and Medicare, which outperforms the private sector at lower cost.
rationalist47 2 years ago 2
Charity would work if the majority of it was not being used as a subsidy to 'our elite' of the developing world. Universal healthcare will only guarantee the federal government a compulsory federal tax with which to expand the money supply, and extend its executive authority via 17% of the US economy. Healthcare will not be improved and will be even more expensive, with the cost hidden in rising prices throughout the economy.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
spend spend spend spend Obama says
gdernie 2 years ago
Actually if the government allowed drs to deduct the cost of providing care to indigent patients from their income tax this problem would be solved overnight.But the powers that be want to create a massive and powerful beuracracy that empowers and enriches themselves at our expense.Its all a hoax folks.
Gunnarsguns 2 years ago 2
The Constitution says nothing prohibiting national healthcare. It's nice to see doctors more interested in their patients health and not profits for greedy healthcare companies and insurance companies!
Str8TalkNow 2 years ago 3
The only thing US is rich of is obese Jesus freaks ...
Iraq had national health care under Saddam fix that first ..
SWEDEN HAS 140.000 IRAQI REFUGEES THAT WE PAY FOR ..
health care and all...shame shame on America
LeilaKmusic 2 years ago 5
obamanation liberal bitches
BlessedONE333returnz 2 years ago
You would surely be the first to put the first nail in Christ. He woul surely be for "Universal Health Care.
prg100740 2 years ago
The Word Made Flesh, Yeshua/JESUS didn't need universal health care - He cured the blind, deft nearly dead and dead people alike, no chemicals, no pharmaceuticals, he did use the earth to rub on the blind man's eye but hardly a cat scan, mri, blah blah blah was needed for the Lord to heal.
The story of the sumerian is a good example of our Lords request for health care, not paid for by a government, but done one on one helping as you can. and trust in God is a must ==> FAITH is Key
BlessedONE333returnz 2 years ago
also, 2 mil ppl showed up to dc a few weeks ago opposing govt interference, and when i say govt, im referring to the FEDERAL govt. you see, doctors, there is something called the constitutiion, and it doesnt permit this
LLCoolPass 2 years ago 2
Two million people? It was no more than 70,000. Polls show that over 65% want the public option.
NShutterbug 2 years ago
First of all, you side-stepped the points I made about doctors playing dumb.
Secondly, the Park Service admitted it was approximately 2,000,000 people.
Thirdly, if you like polls so much, you can accept that the govt is so bad that the people in a recent poll 65% say that they won't take the new H1N1 vaccine that the gov't is pushing.
Fourthly, if you like mob rule, you'll love this poll: only one tenth of one percent of students can get every question right , in OK, of citizen test.
LLCoolPass 2 years ago 2
2,000,000 at the 9/12 Tea Party I believe. 2,000 at this one seems about right.
One poster reads: Care is a human right. Strange that virtues and love are put into terms of legal rights. There is nothing in our Federal Constitution or Declaration which says medical care is an inalienable right. The poster is hogwash.
mattlewis66 2 years ago
The 9/12/09 event is that to which I referred.
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
Yeah the constitution doesn't say a lot of stuff but it does say the Govt. should promote THE GENERAL WELFARE or the commonwealth. Health care is clearly a part of that. Its not a commidity like corvettes or guitars. Either wages and production need to be at a level where people can afford health care or medicare for all. Its like central park, do you want to sell it off or do you want it for people to enjoy?
gosciu555 2 years ago
margaret flowers, please fight the ins company in free market ways. giving the corporate friends, the govt , power is not a good solution, its not very smart nor is it creative. come on, you're doctors.
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
were not rich as that grannie said. Were the MOST INDEBTED!!
ILovelisanova 2 years ago 6
I was going to say the same thing!
HarryNRubin 2 years ago
They should be asking what are the conditions that allow these prices to be so high. And fix those.
sirellyn 2 years ago 3
When americans will realise that they NEED to storm White House?
Because US elite doesn't care about all these useless meetings..
It's TIME FOR REVOLUTION!!!
Take your guns, go to the streets and FIGHT for your FREEDOM!
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago 2
It's a terrible state of affairs. Laws are in place to allow businesses to capitalize crazily with health care, so people of course look to the government thinking the businesses are too greedy.
They are too greedy of course, but the laws in place allowed that situation to come about.
They'll be asking government to foot the bill. The US is far beyond broke. They have to cut most of their spending before any of these healthcare issues.
People will be duped again. :-(
sirellyn 2 years ago