Stephen Hawking's Universe - EP2: The Big Bang (4/ 5)

[MoralDecay]

wtf why didn't they keep the pigeons locked up why they tested it instead of killing them for no reason, fuck those fucking fucks

[jonjon2034]

they killed the pigeons via shot gun.. and nobody cares

[andrewsurtees]

Good job most PhD tasks arent that hard, otherwise there's be a couple of dozen doctors in the whole world.

[3877michael]

Imagining how you would have sex with your amazon, dream woman is " the Big Bang Theory " 

[michaelba86]

@3877michael hell yeah haha

[3877michael]

@michaelba86 Yeah! 

[bonesstorage]

Why didn't they test the kit when they had the birds captured? Or just capture them again and then try it. If they used better elimations then they might have got a lot further sooner and not put me on a downer for the dead birds.

[noname2useable]

Nobody knows if the bigbang really happened but at least it's more believable than some storybook saying a "supreme being" created the universe. So did he just pull the universe out of his magic hat? If you think about it, the bible has the perfect elements of a great ancient storybook. I can't wait for someone to invent a time machine so I can jump to the future and laugh at the people worshiping Harry potter and dumbledore

[simw7]

@noname2useable well we know that 13.7 billion years ago something happened in the universe, everything started to become the way they are, it might've been the beginning of the universe, or the universe was changing form one form to another, but i think the big bang happened, but it's not the beginning of the universe, I think there was something b4 that tho

[XieYali]

Pigeons died in the name of science. ;P

[zenlama]

If at the border of expansion the Mass of the particles approaches 0, so does their momentum. Momentum is mass x velocity. Velocity does not approach infinity, it approaches a constant. So if the momentum approaches o, so does our uncertainty. and in turn uncertainty approaches infinity. While I'm busy smoking, maybe you should check the source, rather than introduce fact not associated with the statements. Peace

[zenlama]

I am curious about the claim by John Dobson, who supports a steady state theory in which the border of the universe tunnels back. His theory predicts the K3 background radiation perfectly. However, based on Big bang calculations background radiation should 10 times stronger than what is found. Edge of expansion would be approaching light speed, which would indicate energy and mass approaching 0, yet uncertainty reaching infinity. Easier to accept than universe popping out of nothing. ???

[obaeyens]

@zenlama

"Edge of expansion would be approaching light speed, which would indicate energy and mass approaching 0"

What have you been smoking? Energy and mass approaching 0? What does this even mean?

Nothing prevents the speed of expansion, space can move faster than light-speed.

[bulkhead23]

@zenlama atoms, witch are the building blocks of life, and as you know, make up everything around us, are made up of 99% of nothingness................

[Haseeebo]

@bulkhead23 the building blocks of LIFE are amino acids, and protien LOL.



[bozie666]

@bulkhead23

sub atomic particals make up atoms so shouldnt you have said that instead of atoms

[tonyzmglm]

@bulkhead23 ummmmm excuse me atoms dont make up everything. dark mater and dark energy and subatomic particles like electrons quarks etc....... and if u studied some of einsteins laws there is nothing called nothingness even vaccuum is a form of energy....in fact that 99% of the "nothingness" as u called it would produce so much energy its unfathomable.

[tonyzmglm]

@bulkhead23 ummmmm excuse me atoms dont make up everything. dark mater and dark energy and subatomic particles like electrons quarks etc....... and if u studied some of einsteins laws there is nothing called nothingness even vaccuum is a form of energy....in fact that 99% of the "nothingness" as u called it would produce so much energy its unfathomable. oh and yea.... so that u dont forget E=mc^2 energy is a form of mass.

[EverythingiP0dTouch]

Why do religion and science have to be opposite? I think that a supreme being (God) set the whole thing in motion. Of course there was some divine intervention to help life along. If you think that all of this wonderful world around us is coincidence then I suggest a good 'ole .45 to the brain. Then you can ask God all of your little questions.

[MW2Addiction]

@EverythingiP0dTouch The universe could have created its self. It does not need an intelligent creator to make it. We have no idea if there is some really weird process that existed that allowed for all this to be created. I personally think that the universe is not a coincidence. Its all chances. Like the lottery. Anyways, also if you think that some god made the big bang and all these scientific processes then that means that all religions are wrong. And just shows that your ignorant because

[MW2Addiction]

@EverythingiP0dTouch You dont know the truth that really allowed all this to happen. How could you be so sure that its a invisible flying man that made all this with magical powers?

[Sundaysunny2]

Science is not the only dimension of life, there are other dimensions of life that are beyond science. There are many scientists that believe in God and know that the Big Bang theory is a conspiracy to deceive and turn people away from God.

Space and time did not surely begin after the big bang, there is no evidence that there was a bang, since nothing can expand into nothingness except nothingness is defined as something! The singularity did occupy space, no matter how small, time was existin

[Sundaysunny2]

People who do not believe in God tend to think or claim that they are intelligent. Interestingly, the Bible says in Psalm 141:1 The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good. Who every falls in any one of this categories is the real fool, and not those who believe that God exist. The false evidence of the Big bang is nothing compared to the personal accounts of millions of people that know God personally.

[jasonanthonyevans]

Peer Reviews in Cosmology are like circle jerks. Think about it... people don't believe what they are PAID not to. If all your life and work is based on a completely false idea... you are going to attack anything, even the TRUTH if it could derail your life's work. Besides, just like all advances in cosmology the truth come as we can observe more and more of the universe. Once we have the power to see galaxies beyond 20, 30, 40, 50 Billion light years... Big Bang BS will go bye bye.

[Seniosh]

@jasonanthonyevans Just to clear up an underlying astronomical fallacy here, we will never be able to see galaxies beyond 15 billion light years (in our lifetime). The light has not had long enough to reach our eyes. Light from 40 billion light years away takes 40 billion years to reach us, so we would have to wait another 25 billion years to see it.

[jasonanthonyevans]

@Seniosh Seniosh the mistake is that you are basing your point on the idea that the universe is only 15 billion years old. If you throw out that lie then you realize that of course there is already light from 40 or 50 billion years away coming to us because the universe was around that long ago. Do you understand? We just don't yet have the technology to see it so we created this story to match our limitations which is an understandable human trait.

[evilferret132]

@jasonanthonyevans love to know what made the universe??

and don t say god...

[jasonanthonyevans]

@evilferret132 I don't think anything made it.  I don't believe in god. If the universe has always existed then there is no need for a creation story. I know it is scary but such is life. It is also comforting to me to know that this universe is my home. This infinite plane. I will live die and be recycled again into new life eternally as is all matter here. It's beautiful to me... there is no need to be a slave to some imaginary creator.

[jasonanthonyevans]

Another part of the problem is the alleged "dark matter". For the big bang theory to be correct, 99% of the universe must be made up of this invisible and unobserved form of matter. Yet, there is no evidence that this "dark matter" actually exists at all.

[DuTriDu]

Guess you should write a paper for peer review then.

[jasonanthonyevans]

A second part of the problem is that the universe is presumed to have started out smooth and homogeneous, like the background radiation. Recent observations have shown the actual universe to be profoundly discontinuous and clumpy. There are vast areas where there is nothing, and enormous ribbons of matter stretch out over the universe like strings of christmas lights.

[Seniosh]

@jasonanthonyevans The universe is presumed to have started out on a quantum scale, which means that probability and randomness play an important role in all events. This means that the universe could never have been smooth and homogeneous. Furthermore, the initial roughness from the early universe formed the blueprint for later galactic grouping. The difference in density caused matter to gravitate together, forming those vast ribbons.

[jasonanthonyevans]

@Seniosh Sorry but I will take the much simipler answer over your complicated one. Over hundreds of billions of years with gravity as a force galaxies were attracted to one another and clustered together.... doesn't that make much more sense than this complicated math problem you are proposing that sounds like utter make believe. I am sorry but the more complicated these scientists have to make their house of cards to keep it up... the shakier it appears.

[jasonanthonyevans]

The really serious problems directly contradict the big bang theory with observational data. If the big bang occurred 20 billion years ago, it seems logical to assume that nothing in the universe can be older than this. Yet, mammoth clusters of galaxies have been discovered that are billions of light years across. Such clusters would take hundreds of billions of years to form, far longer than the universe has existed.

[Seniosh]

@jasonanthonyevans The solution to that problem lies in the initial roughness of the early universe. The seeds of these galaxy clusters were sewn in the density fluctuations of the infant universe. In effect, they formed when the universe was not nearly as large as it is today, which is why it did not take several hundred billion years for them to form.

[jasonanthonyevans]

Likewise, the cosmic background radiation could be a general condition of the universe, not at all related to any big bang event. Other scientists have used it to prove completely different theories. In fact background radiation proves nothing.

[jasonanthonyevans]

The Big Bang Theory is B.S. The idea that the universe is expanding is based upon an assumption that may be false. This assumption is that the observed red-shift is a cosmological effect and is not an anomoly. Photographs taken by Halton Arp show the possibility that some objects which appear to be physically connected show widely divergent red-shifts. If it can be shown that the red-shifts are not cosmological, this would undermine Hubbles law, and the big bang theory.

[tehbertl]

Hahaha. These scientists are doing their best to find out some details about the creation of the universe, and you all get upset over two dead pidgeons. That's brilliant.

[Hashishin13]

I wonder if they were the last homing pigeons and these idiots shot them. They are supposed to be extinct. I wonder if their genetics are still floating around...

[nvaspider]

i believe it could have collapsed bounced and expanded again...

[wavepsychic]

Meaningless Murder!

There is no Big Bang you dumb asses

[amitavaxxx]

do you use your brain or your ass for thinking, shithead?

[wavepsychic]

The Neurons are in the Brain. Those are the cells that let you think.

I do not believe in this Catholic idea that the Universe was created by God in less then one second to the twenty second degree. Or that the Earth was created by God in seven days. If you are a creationist that is fine but my Neurons are in my Brain where they should be & I am educated.

What I do believe in is a little Virtue called Compassion. Why you think I'm dumb for understanding the value of life I'll never know.

[DirteatDirt]

bird killers

[DaveODrisc]

Yeah I'm in two minds as to if the mindless pigeon slaughter was worth the discovery!

Maybe the pigeons would understand if somebody had taken the time to explain the gravity of what was being discovered!

I cant prove this but I would wager that most of the pigeons may have declined!

That said- FUCK-EM!!!

Dirty little flapping shit machines they are"flying rats" as they are more commenly known!

BOOM!

[DaveODrisc]

To any members of the RSPCA I would like to point out that I dont condone Pigeon-oside!

But if the ends justify the means - etc........etc.........

I cant help but find it funny that they thought the background radiaton was down to birdy shite!

Click,Click...........BOOM !!!

[Whookid5080]

poor pigeons, casualties of a greater good!

[Quicksilvers888]

I believe the theory of Big Bang cannot be proven or disproved in our lifetime. It just cannot be revealed just like that in our lifetime. No intellectual being can understand and explain it since there are vast number of possibilities on how things are created just like the number of stars in known universe. We can try to discover it but we will not get the answer.  Its too far fetch as a human being to understand it. Our size alone is not enough to give answers to vastness of creation.

[Aersis32]

the day without yesterday is the best way to describe the bigbang occurred. time itself had a beginning, before the big bang, there was nothing, not even empty vacuum space, coz if time had a beginning, then an empty space would still be space, and space cannot exist without time

[ZeroHumans]

pffft.."big bang" theory. It gets the prize for the stupidest theory ever dreamed up. Why don't they think about some real science instead of pushing cartoons?

[DeusMerdaeEst]

Real science? Like the bible?

[greycloud24]

don't worry about zerohumans, he is just proof that the education system fails some people. not all people are gifted with the ability to understand scientific concepts.

[Aersis32]

yeah and God said let there be light is more believable?

[ZeroHumans]

I don't agree tat was God.. it was the cookie monster :)

[forza599]

COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE!!!

. . .Amen.

[Quicksilvers888]

This is if you consider time and space relationship. What if time is completely a separate event in which time is always present even without space? What all these theories are leading into a single event (big bang) that supposed to start everything even time. What if, its not?

[aARIESsSs]

time is an illusion, everything that is here has alwys been here and always will be here, energy cannot be created or destroyed and god is everything so we are all part of "god" , i just blew you mind

[2deucedempsey]

when einsteins theory of a finite uni was proven partially by arnold n penseuz n by hawking the rest of the bb bang theory dosent have to b proved to disprove ss theory.Y do you think that every unbiased scientific text after the 70s when these aspects of bb were proven gives the bb theory as the only and discards ss theory?????

[2deucedempsey]

tetraedronicos argument is that ss theory can prove that the uni will n has always been get this dude IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT THE UNI IS FINITE AND HAS NOT "ALWAYS BEEN".Also tetra argues that the bb has to disprove the ss theory for it to be the "winner".Enough of the bb theory has been proven to disprove ss theory.example PROVEN FACT THAT THE UNI IS FINITE AN IS EXPANDING.

[aARIESsSs]

it was proven the earth was flat, energy cannot be created or destroyed so everything that exists has alwys existed and always will exist, forever.

[postmanpat77]

your wrong, evey law has its exceptions. One of the points of the big bang theory is that at the moment of big bang the universe was a singularity and in a singularity no matter exists, only energy. Therefore, energy was transformed into matter. There is no experiment that can replicate this transformation, but we can show the opposite. In nuclear reactions some matter is lost because it is changed into energy. This corrolation between energy and matter can be seen in enstiens equation E=mc^2.

[Zao125]

that does not mean all enegery could be condensed

[Mafiaaffe]

"it was proven the earth was flat"

no it was assumed it was never proven

[2deucedempsey]

Also when the uni cant expand anymore it will "inplode on itself and it WONT expand on itself over n over its only expanding once and after reaching its maximum inploding after the implosion there wont be anything like sitting in a room with white walls and nothing in it.

[2deucedempsey]

I thought that einstein proved that the universe was finite therefore proving that it had a begining.Therefore giving birth to bigbang theory.I KNOW ITS A PROVEN FACT THAT THE UNI IS ALWAYS EXPANDING

[hankgriesbach]

It would be intresting to see how heavy that single primevil atom was

[goodrob1985]

could it be possible that the big bang was brought about by the collision of two massive black holes colliding (which had been previously consuming the universe in an age before the big bang)? and so the big bang could occur in a cycle once all matter had been consumed by black holes...?

[RIPPPtheJacker]

WTF...they killed innocent pidgeons

[BlackmailAnimation]

Am I right in saying the big bang was by two large masses o energy colliding at phenomenal speeds and compressing each other into an explosion of anti-matter and matter, which then annihilated and the left over matter and antimatter is what we see today?

How can an explosion create space and time? That is what the big bang implies right? I think, in my opinion (based on little education on the matter) that it only created the matter in the universe.

[tige1717]

to think of the big bang as an explosion in the sense the we cocieve an explosion in the every day world is a misunderstanding. The 'explosion' is simply a rapid inflation of spacetime. In the early stages of this expansion, matter was so compressed that it was incredibly hot.

[tetraedronico]

they say that the radiation they're reading comes from the big bang, but how do they know? they jump into conclusions too quickly. the radiation they're reading may very possibly come from left overs of galaxies crashing together. The big bang theory is ridiculous.

[majorvoltage]

They know because the CMB is virtually isotropic with only slight variations and because the spectrum matches predictions to within 50 parts per million.

Why is the big bang ridiculous? What alternative hypothesis is as successful at explaining and predicting the observations as the BB?

[tetraedronico]

Honey, I shrunk the universe:

Why I think is ridiculous?

Because I can't believe that an entire universe can fit in a space the size of an atom.

Also i don't think that the observations conclusively proof that the universe was once as tiny as that and even if this is true, it doesn't prove that the universe has eternally been expanding and contracting. in order to put a "final nail on SS theory."

[majorvoltage]

tetraedronico: "Because I can't believe that an entire universe can fit in a space the size of an atom. "

Ah, argument from personal incredulity.

[tetraedronico]

BB theory is just a finite segment in the infinite cycle of SS both theories are not necessarily mutually exclusive and if BB scientist want to make them exclusive and proclaim BB the winner they need to prove the SS theory wrong and demonstrate how the universe was created When the primordial atom was created When it exploded and when will the universe die The burden of proof falls in them. As far as SS thermodynamics can be used to explain that the universe have always existed and always will

[majorvoltage]

Stephen Hawking has shown mathematically that the big bang must have begun with a singularity.

And if the universe existed for an infinite amount of time, we would already be at maximum entropy according to the second law of thermodynamics. Steady state also defies the first law of thermodynamics. If the universe were continually expanding but maintained the same density then matter and energy would need to be continuously generated.

[hankgriesbach]

If the universe were to exist for an infinite amount of time their, this would mean that the universe were static (as discussed in video), however, that wouldn't mean there was a maximum entropy reached, it simple would mean that dispertion has never nor will ever take place, I agree with your comment but dont understand why would discribe the universe's entropy as being maxed out based on the secound law of thermodynamics - which is only realating to a "non-static" system

[JasonTheMaya]

The Big bang theory is Proven.

So im sorry its Not "ridiculous".

its were you came from :)

[tetraedronico]

Does this explain the big ban? I doubt it

[RexNunc]

Of course they came back....Who wants to live in Jersey?! :p

[RexNunc]

They shoulda kept the pigeons as mascots. Andromeda and Edwin.

[drs8922]

people created religion because they wanted a reason for what they did not understand

[RexNunc]

like duh lol

[Revurg]

The entire universe comes from on point in space. This has been know about for many centuries, but has been regarded as religious nonsense. Now it is regarded as science. All you have to do is read and keep on reading and you will find that all these tiny understandings of human beings have been know about by seers of the truth for a very, very long time.

[nkyezlewis]

Its not an assumption if its based off of a theory that is considered true by the entire scientific community,rather its a question first asked and posed off as an asumption and proven on the grounds of a theory regarded as being true.Have any of you ever had to write a thesis?

[ghost2be]

pigeon murder,can't believe it!

[j316music]

He proved it on assumptions? Thats not science!!

[hughjarrse]

"He proved it on assumptions? Thats not science!!"

It's part of science, millions of people assume the bible is true with no evidence whatsoever!

[exupstreetfighter]

Psycics, telepathy, the human soul, reincarnation, all religion.

Wheres the proof? in the assumption.

Have you ever seen a baby gaint squid?

I asume they exist because there are adult gaint squid.

[beefans]

great scientist.....