you take away the autism in a child/adult you take away their dignity and who they are..... you take away what makes them unique! i would never ever want to "cure" my brother cause then he wouldnt be my brother....his autism is what makes him, him!
I would never want a 'cure' either. I do have to stumble with my weaknesses, obviously they are social, but my strengths more than make up for it. I can do things in places of employment where others have to stumble through computers to get counts on inventory, as an example, and I can just pull it out of my head. I do not think I could adapt to being 'normal' as others see it.
If a cure were discovered, I'd want it. I'm 43 and living in an adult foster home. I've never been successful at self-care, relationships, or employment. I want to be able to handle those things. I want to have a crappy day and get over it. I've worked so hard all my life to function in this world, hard work which no one notices, and which amounts to nothing in the end. I want love. I want a brain that can make use of my PhD (though my autism helped me get it).
I know how you feel, I'm in the same boat. Not one of my teachers growing up bothered to try and figure out WHAT my learning disability was, they just threw me into the special education class, where I knew all the stuff being taught already. As the years went by, being in that class, I fell behind my peers. I JUST found out last month my learning disability is this: I have AUDITORY PROCESSING DISORDER. .....
... I have a hard time understanding what is being verbally said...but with written words I am fine, in fact I do very well with reading and writing. Had my teachers given 2 damn seconds of their time, they'd have figured out a way to teach me my grade level education, and I would not have spent the next 10 years of my public schooling falling behind so badly that I ended up feeling STUPID and gaining and very BAD SELF ESTEEM over this. I was very deprived because the system failed me.
it's much preferable to call them children with autism... not autistic.... children are children... lets not label them with the word autistic, coz eventually after all these intervention they will become regular children like any other.... dont let urself be get used to using "autistic child"..rather "child with autism"... in the near time... autism will be overcome..all is left for that individual is the word "child"..autism is no more....:P
No... it is not. And did you just elect to miss the point where every autistic Child Of The '80s has come out and said that a world where autism is no more is one not worth living in? Or are you just that fukking ignorant?
I am an autistic adult. Take away the autism, and you take away what makes me me. Go to Alice Springs and start calling the children there Children With Blackness if you think we're exaggerating.
@aspie182 Hey how do I find out if I have autism. For some reason tonight I thought to my self if I even have it. I can't even tell if I do, so if there is some kind of test I can take to check if I am autistic "a accurate test of course".
I dont blame you for being pissed off. I'm 24 and I've just reallized that I have autism. I've been ofeered pills for ADD and depression. But thats just because the drug companies offer kickbacks to professionals who prescribe that trash.
autistic talents are often a double edged sword though, take idiot savants, taking away from their ability to sort information into patterns can lead to receiving pure mathematical sensory input instead
i don't know, i'm not an expert so i can't really comment on how much of an advantage autistic skills might be
as for an "evolutionary step in the right direction", speaking technically that would be a change that would better allow for procreation, so yeah :o
Britain it is like the Dark ages as far as Asperger syndrome is concerned and Aspie children just dumped in the special needs system which is like a dustbin. The mainstream is just as bad. There is widespread Aspiphobia (hatred of Aspies) in my town especially.
I think Autism is a step in the right direction evolution wise. It's just that we are not handling it correctly. It's astounding how so many of the people diagnosed with some form of autism have some incredible talent far beyond the reaches of a normal person. What we need to do as a society is harness it and control it, and what I mean by that is try and help Autistic people be more socially comfortable while still being very intelligent. I say all this being an average person.
Albert Einstein was not an Asperger's child. Delays in the adoption of speech exclude you from that diagnostic criteria, and Albert is known to have begun speaking at age four. In whole sentences rather than just one-word utterances at first, to boot.
I should get people who write crap like that up above to watch all of silentmiaow's videos.
@Figpootin I know you made this comment 2 years ago, but I'd like to point out that people are not sure if people like Einstein and other very eccentric but accomplished people are on the spectrum or if they are JPQ's (just plain quirky's, without autism)
@BassTKD826 It is considered fact by autism specialists who are credible (such as Tony Attwood and Isabelle Hénault) that Albert Einstein was autistic. While nothing can be proven with a man who has been dead for 50+ years, Attwood et al consider recorded behaviour on his part consistent with the diagnosis. Some of those behaviours, if you described them to my parents, would make them laugh and say they know all about that.
@aspie182 "It's considered fact" isn't the right words, there is no exact proof he had autism, all experts can say is "may have had" or speculate. I know some people who don't have autism and have autism like behavior. Some people are just socially awkward, etc. So it can't be proven he didn't have it or he did.
He is a hundred percent correct. It is people like you who are idiots because you cannot understand what you are being told.
Autistic individuals, especially those on YouTube, show a consistent pattern of using the matter behind their eyes, and using it to its fullest capabilities, often for the sheer pleasure of it. Considering the problems people who refuse to do these things because they think it is "uncool" bring upon us all, I would say your kind is a step in the WRONG direction.
if it was to be embraced as a step in the right direction, the social awkwardness of it would have to be isolated and removed, it's a necessity of out society that we maintain social interaction, without it we'd descend relatively quickly into the dark ages
aspergers is geared more towards having a specific talent right? "Normal" people have talents to, often quiet impressive ones, my friend for example, 15 and already drawing like a pro
i think the education system just needs to be improved on, there's benefits to being "normal" too, and variance between average and high I.Q exist commonly enough among the normal population too, but their potential is often overlooks, i read somewhere a large percentage of near geniuses actually drop out of highschool pretty early
the social awkwardness of aspergers would have a devastating effect on our high social society though, we depend on interaction to maintain it
A society like the one described in StarShip Troopers (the novel, I mean) would be paradise by comparison. Simply because said society is founded on the principle of doing what is right instead of necessarily doing what is popular. Teachers like the ones I had as a boy would end up behind the garbage trucks.
My friend Dave and I have been researching disabilities and eugenics. My focus has been on autism. The stuff we have found is truly frightening. At some point I will post a video of my research. Autism speaks is down right evil. They have caused me emotional harm. I react to their blue puzzle piece logo in much the same way as a Jew would react to a swastika. We need to bring these bastards down. I agree, we do need more magnetos. So when do we start the brotherhood of autistics?
thanks for getting the courage to do this by taking yourself out of your comfort zone. I , for one , now what it's like. On the plus side though my making vids for ewe chube has improved my confidence in social situations.
Maybe it has something to do with the way you are addressing me. Since I could read Tolkien when most of my friends were struggling to read pamphlets with six words to a page, maybe that verbal diahorrea Australians confuse with slang just sets some listeners off. Hmmm?
Further to my comment below, Australian is not something you should be proud to be. Their attitude alone makes them the shit of the Earth. Having already tried to communicate to Australia's prime minister about how he could make his country more Autism-friendly only to see him on television endorsing Hillary Clinton, I have yet to be proven wrong.
Autistic or Australian. Make your choice. You cannot be both.
Gladly. Your problem with me telling people who proudly announce allegiance to a nation that prides itself on herd conformity and exclusion of those with problems which are not obvious to the eye that I do not wish to be identified as one of them is your problem, not mine.
I have told you already that since you are unwilling to understand my response to the ignorance of others, I have no wish to hear from you. Now I will enforce it. Good day.
@IzzyBunneh Yes... we need to think positive, not negative... get the neurological makeup for certain good stuff to make the world better instead of looking for the "bad" stuff.
oh well, Dingo. You tried. I don't understand his response to you, and the video only disproves the point, as does YOUR existence. But then, if I say so, I must be a curebie/normie blah blah blah. Oh, cause you called him cobber?? Lighten up Dean!
In case you did not watch the whole video and only this segment, there is a pervasive theme throughout. It is that Australians not only consider child abuse okay, they used to actively encourage it as being right. Hence, I would rather be called a rapist or a pedophile than an Australian.
I have said it everywhere imaginable, and now I am saying it here. You can either be autistic, or you can be an Aussie. Not both.
I thought this was the whole video-not just a segment. misunderstanding. I wonder where your stance leaves Donna Williams, Creddy Eddy, Anthony in Action. but, nevermind.
You make excellent points and although a lot of people criticise you, it's near impossible to do so in these three video's. Lately I've been noticing that the cure-autism crowd always have trouble interpreting "unspoken" messages properly and my guess is that it's because of the body language thing.
I reckon the spoken word thing is definitely the way to go.
The curebie movement is really not about understanding or interpretation. If you look at them very closely, you can see that they do not care what anyone else's message is. They will attempt to delete that message and substitute their own. That is why an unambiguous rejection of them is so important to send out.
The present problem we have is that our voice is not being heard, whether it be by the medical fraternity, the media, or the law. If enough of us get up and say "we do not want your pity or your cures", it will get through. One way or another, it will get through. If we allow them any room for twisting our words against us, then that is exactly what they will do.
One day, someone is going to grok the economic ideas presented in Heinlein's most recent (or earliest) novel, and there will be no more of this "making ends meet" crap. *nods*
I am not sure where to start. There are organisations out there, but after talking with a lot of them, I feel they are inadequate to the task. We need a lot less Ghandis and a few more Magnetos right now.
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BafflinBook 3 months ago
Autism isn't something that can be cured.
For some autistic people it is possible to learn to hide the symptoms, but that's like hiding part of who you are.
veer49 5 months ago
you take away the autism in a child/adult you take away their dignity and who they are..... you take away what makes them unique! i would never ever want to "cure" my brother cause then he wouldnt be my brother....his autism is what makes him, him!
wesocool500 6 months ago 2
Well said.
iamnotme1234 1 year ago
I would never want a 'cure' either. I do have to stumble with my weaknesses, obviously they are social, but my strengths more than make up for it. I can do things in places of employment where others have to stumble through computers to get counts on inventory, as an example, and I can just pull it out of my head. I do not think I could adapt to being 'normal' as others see it.
Int0l3r4nc3 1 year ago 3
If a cure were discovered, I'd want it. I'm 43 and living in an adult foster home. I've never been successful at self-care, relationships, or employment. I want to be able to handle those things. I want to have a crappy day and get over it. I've worked so hard all my life to function in this world, hard work which no one notices, and which amounts to nothing in the end. I want love. I want a brain that can make use of my PhD (though my autism helped me get it).
Respect to those who who differ.
dcs002 1 year ago 4
I know how you feel, I'm in the same boat. Not one of my teachers growing up bothered to try and figure out WHAT my learning disability was, they just threw me into the special education class, where I knew all the stuff being taught already. As the years went by, being in that class, I fell behind my peers. I JUST found out last month my learning disability is this: I have AUDITORY PROCESSING DISORDER. .....
SaraESainsbury 1 year ago
... I have a hard time understanding what is being verbally said...but with written words I am fine, in fact I do very well with reading and writing. Had my teachers given 2 damn seconds of their time, they'd have figured out a way to teach me my grade level education, and I would not have spent the next 10 years of my public schooling falling behind so badly that I ended up feeling STUPID and gaining and very BAD SELF ESTEEM over this. I was very deprived because the system failed me.
SaraESainsbury 1 year ago
it's much preferable to call them children with autism... not autistic.... children are children... lets not label them with the word autistic, coz eventually after all these intervention they will become regular children like any other.... dont let urself be get used to using "autistic child"..rather "child with autism"... in the near time... autism will be overcome..all is left for that individual is the word "child"..autism is no more....:P
amethyst01024 2 years ago
No... it is not. And did you just elect to miss the point where every autistic Child Of The '80s has come out and said that a world where autism is no more is one not worth living in? Or are you just that fukking ignorant?
I am an autistic adult. Take away the autism, and you take away what makes me me. Go to Alice Springs and start calling the children there Children With Blackness if you think we're exaggerating.
aspie182 2 years ago 15
@aspie182 Hey how do I find out if I have autism. For some reason tonight I thought to my self if I even have it. I can't even tell if I do, so if there is some kind of test I can take to check if I am autistic "a accurate test of course".
Gamervidsman2000 1 month ago
I dont blame you for being pissed off. I'm 24 and I've just reallized that I have autism. I've been ofeered pills for ADD and depression. But thats just because the drug companies offer kickbacks to professionals who prescribe that trash.
tracey22b 2 years ago
I would not want to "cure" my son. He would not be my son. Asperger's is a part of who he is and I would not want to change anything about him.
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autistic talents are often a double edged sword though, take idiot savants, taking away from their ability to sort information into patterns can lead to receiving pure mathematical sensory input instead
i don't know, i'm not an expert so i can't really comment on how much of an advantage autistic skills might be
as for an "evolutionary step in the right direction", speaking technically that would be a change that would better allow for procreation, so yeah :o
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
geez, i must be tired, screwed up that post pretty bad xD
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
Britain it is like the Dark ages as far as Asperger syndrome is concerned and Aspie children just dumped in the special needs system which is like a dustbin. The mainstream is just as bad. There is widespread Aspiphobia (hatred of Aspies) in my town especially.
philsaspiezone 3 years ago
America is just as bad, honestly.
kmgcatcousin 3 years ago
I think Autism is a step in the right direction evolution wise. It's just that we are not handling it correctly. It's astounding how so many of the people diagnosed with some form of autism have some incredible talent far beyond the reaches of a normal person. What we need to do as a society is harness it and control it, and what I mean by that is try and help Autistic people be more socially comfortable while still being very intelligent. I say all this being an average person.
Figpootin 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
A step in the right direction? You are an IDIOT.
conner263 3 years ago
I was referring more to the Aspergers side of the spectrum. Einstein is said to have had it, but we would be way better off without him right?
Figpootin 3 years ago 7
Albert Einstein was not an Asperger's child. Delays in the adoption of speech exclude you from that diagnostic criteria, and Albert is known to have begun speaking at age four. In whole sentences rather than just one-word utterances at first, to boot.
I should get people who write crap like that up above to watch all of silentmiaow's videos.
aspie182 3 years ago
@Figpootin I know you made this comment 2 years ago, but I'd like to point out that people are not sure if people like Einstein and other very eccentric but accomplished people are on the spectrum or if they are JPQ's (just plain quirky's, without autism)
BassTKD826 1 year ago
@BassTKD826 Yeah I made that comment when I was very ignorant about the subject. I realize now that it was a pretty dumb statement.
Figpootin 1 year ago
@BassTKD826 It is considered fact by autism specialists who are credible (such as Tony Attwood and Isabelle Hénault) that Albert Einstein was autistic. While nothing can be proven with a man who has been dead for 50+ years, Attwood et al consider recorded behaviour on his part consistent with the diagnosis. Some of those behaviours, if you described them to my parents, would make them laugh and say they know all about that.
aspie182 1 year ago 2
@aspie182 Yeah, you're right.
Actually, thinking about it now, I don't know WHY I left that comment...
BassTKD826 1 year ago
@aspie182 "It's considered fact" isn't the right words, there is no exact proof he had autism, all experts can say is "may have had" or speculate. I know some people who don't have autism and have autism like behavior. Some people are just socially awkward, etc. So it can't be proven he didn't have it or he did.
SoyhStucha 1 year ago
@aspie182 and scientists today strongly feel Leonardo Da Vinci had ADHD and we know he had severe dyslexia
TheTravelfool 5 months ago
He is a hundred percent correct. It is people like you who are idiots because you cannot understand what you are being told.
Autistic individuals, especially those on YouTube, show a consistent pattern of using the matter behind their eyes, and using it to its fullest capabilities, often for the sheer pleasure of it. Considering the problems people who refuse to do these things because they think it is "uncool" bring upon us all, I would say your kind is a step in the WRONG direction.
aspie182 3 years ago
if it was to be embraced as a step in the right direction, the social awkwardness of it would have to be isolated and removed, it's a necessity of out society that we maintain social interaction, without it we'd descend relatively quickly into the dark ages
aspergers is geared more towards having a specific talent right? "Normal" people have talents to, often quiet impressive ones, my friend for example, 15 and already drawing like a pro
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
i think the education system just needs to be improved on, there's benefits to being "normal" too, and variance between average and high I.Q exist commonly enough among the normal population too, but their potential is often overlooks, i read somewhere a large percentage of near geniuses actually drop out of highschool pretty early
the social awkwardness of aspergers would have a devastating effect on our high social society though, we depend on interaction to maintain it
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
I know how you feel.
In America it's far worse, even in such a progressive state such as New Jersey.
I wonder if South Africa is going to be better, bet not.
Bozewani 3 years ago
A society like the one described in StarShip Troopers (the novel, I mean) would be paradise by comparison. Simply because said society is founded on the principle of doing what is right instead of necessarily doing what is popular. Teachers like the ones I had as a boy would end up behind the garbage trucks.
aspie182 3 years ago
hey man after my daughter was diognosed with autism i started looking at my past and then thought if maybe i am too!!and no that is not a joke!!
toughasitis 3 years ago 2
My friend Dave and I have been researching disabilities and eugenics. My focus has been on autism. The stuff we have found is truly frightening. At some point I will post a video of my research. Autism speaks is down right evil. They have caused me emotional harm. I react to their blue puzzle piece logo in much the same way as a Jew would react to a swastika. We need to bring these bastards down. I agree, we do need more magnetos. So when do we start the brotherhood of autistics?
purplemutantas 4 years ago 2
thanks for getting the courage to do this by taking yourself out of your comfort zone. I , for one , now what it's like. On the plus side though my making vids for ewe chube has improved my confidence in social situations.
Yes , cobber I be in the ASD Spectrum thingy :-)
AustDingo 4 years ago
As far as I am concerned, one can either be autistic or Australian. Not both. If the video did not make clear why, then I cannot help you understand.
aspie182 4 years ago
What the fuck has me being Autistic or an Aussie got anything to do with me thanking you or passing on my exp.?
AustDingo 4 years ago
Maybe it has something to do with the way you are addressing me. Since I could read Tolkien when most of my friends were struggling to read pamphlets with six words to a page, maybe that verbal diahorrea Australians confuse with slang just sets some listeners off. Hmmm?
aspie182 4 years ago
well if it's the slang thats your problem not mine. Best you be careful then cobber, oz thats a mighty high horse you re gonna fall off
AustDingo 3 years ago
Further to my comment below, Australian is not something you should be proud to be. Their attitude alone makes them the shit of the Earth. Having already tried to communicate to Australia's prime minister about how he could make his country more Autism-friendly only to see him on television endorsing Hillary Clinton, I have yet to be proven wrong.
Autistic or Australian. Make your choice. You cannot be both.
aspie182 3 years ago
Wow.
Really? You want to tell me and my autistic kids that?
Bring it.
deadcatguy 3 years ago
Gladly. Your problem with me telling people who proudly announce allegiance to a nation that prides itself on herd conformity and exclusion of those with problems which are not obvious to the eye that I do not wish to be identified as one of them is your problem, not mine.
I have told you already that since you are unwilling to understand my response to the ignorance of others, I have no wish to hear from you. Now I will enforce it. Good day.
aspie182 3 years ago
we'd be better off to isolate the neurological makeup for certain talents
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
@IzzyBunneh Yes... we need to think positive, not negative... get the neurological makeup for certain good stuff to make the world better instead of looking for the "bad" stuff.
AnastassiaCMF 10 months ago
oh well, Dingo. You tried. I don't understand his response to you, and the video only disproves the point, as does YOUR existence. But then, if I say so, I must be a curebie/normie blah blah blah. Oh, cause you called him cobber?? Lighten up Dean!
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
In case you did not watch the whole video and only this segment, there is a pervasive theme throughout. It is that Australians not only consider child abuse okay, they used to actively encourage it as being right. Hence, I would rather be called a rapist or a pedophile than an Australian.
I have said it everywhere imaginable, and now I am saying it here. You can either be autistic, or you can be an Aussie. Not both.
aspie182 3 years ago
I thought this was the whole video-not just a segment. misunderstanding. I wonder where your stance leaves Donna Williams, Creddy Eddy, Anthony in Action. but, nevermind.
wiscsuzski 3 years ago
Way 2 go!
CoolNASCARGuy 4 years ago
OK, BUT IN THE MEANTIME...
:-)
thank you!!!
1. If you're too open-minded, your brains will fall out.
2. Don't worry about what people think, they don't do it very often.
3. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
4. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
5. If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!
XXX
NadezhdaRozagy1 4 years ago
i see so called "cure" groups as money hounds. mom of aspie teen. I wouldn't trade my son for any other.
grzy8 4 years ago
thank you for sharing.
omar12331 4 years ago
You make excellent points and although a lot of people criticise you, it's near impossible to do so in these three video's. Lately I've been noticing that the cure-autism crowd always have trouble interpreting "unspoken" messages properly and my guess is that it's because of the body language thing.
I reckon the spoken word thing is definitely the way to go.
CreddyEddy 4 years ago
The curebie movement is really not about understanding or interpretation. If you look at them very closely, you can see that they do not care what anyone else's message is. They will attempt to delete that message and substitute their own. That is why an unambiguous rejection of them is so important to send out.
aspie182 4 years ago
What will one achieve by sending out unambiguous rejection messages?
CreddyEddy 4 years ago
The present problem we have is that our voice is not being heard, whether it be by the medical fraternity, the media, or the law. If enough of us get up and say "we do not want your pity or your cures", it will get through. One way or another, it will get through. If we allow them any room for twisting our words against us, then that is exactly what they will do.
aspie182 4 years ago
I agree.
CreddyEddy 4 years ago
21. Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
22. By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends.
NadezhdaRozagy1 4 years ago
One day, someone is going to grok the economic ideas presented in Heinlein's most recent (or earliest) novel, and there will be no more of this "making ends meet" crap. *nods*
aspie182 4 years ago
I want to speak up!!! I want to "joing forces" How do I do that? where do we start?
NadezhdaRozagy1 4 years ago
I am not sure where to start. There are organisations out there, but after talking with a lot of them, I feel they are inadequate to the task. We need a lot less Ghandis and a few more Magnetos right now.
aspie182 4 years ago
6. My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance.
7. Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
8. It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
9. For every action, there is an equal and opposite government program.
10. If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip.
11. Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks.
NadezhdaRozagy1 4 years ago
23. Thou shall not weigh more than thy refrigerator.
24. Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world.
NadezhdaRozagy1 4 years ago
As do Aspies. Two sides of the same coin.
666sigma 4 years ago