goodness came from god. allah created science, everything is not just puffy magic, of course there is atoms. allah created atoms.there are many scientific and mathematical miracles in the quran. science is another way of understanding the gods creation. ask yourself... why is there reality? why cant there be nothing. how can somthing come from nothing? god is eternal. i know its a hard concept to grasp but its beyond what we know
Dudes, better to belive in GOD! If God doesn`t exist, I won`t go to hell! But if he exists and I said something bad about him, then it won`t be quite good :D
our fullest of potentials...i believe that will never occur do to our inability to have differing views without resorting to violence, the truth is that we are imperfect apes that know much less about our place in the universe than some of us would...believe...
@mrmindlessdrivle...you seriousley believe that pure science cannot explain the origins of life? Do you actually read anything at all, or are you so wrapped inside your own ego to admit that your beliefs are nothing but just that...your beliefs.I find it sad that people have to argue about something when the reality of truth is that we are always evolving...we do not understand everything..we are still very much in the dark ages and will remain as such for as long as it takes to reach full....
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So, what does God choose to do to END all the pain, EVIL, and suffering on this earth? He utterly destroys it, and everyone who KNOWINGLY rejects the truth of Him, AND the GIFT of Salvation, through the ONE and ONLY KNOWN SAVIOR! There is NO other Savior within ANY other religion, and there is NO OTHER holy book that has several hundred, proven, fulfilled prophesies, and very important and very specific ones that are occurring right NOW, such as one world govt., New World Order, the beginning
Continued: Please read the 5th comment FIRST, and this one Last. ( parts 1-5 comments )......... My point is, is that God and Satan, DO EXIST, and there are thousands of realistic reasons, and facts about ourselves, and our universe that affirm this belief. It is NOT because of a BOOK! The bible, simply gives further solidity on this). ANYWAYS, SIN is within our inner self, and it manifest itself by our actions, behavior, what is in our heart and mind, and spirit ( if alive in the spirit
Continued, Please read comments below this First.............. HELL CANNOT be Eternal, because it is thrown INTO the Lake of Fire, during judgement. The bible CLEARLY states that God throws HE'LL, and Death INTO the Lake of Fire to be Destroyed. God then says that " This is the Second Death!". Those who have KNOWINGLY REJECTED GOD, Jesus Christ, and Salvation - are KNOWINGLY rejecting Eternal Life, within the New Earth and New Heavens. EVIL is a very real power, and it reigns over our world w
Continuation: Please read comments below, First......... TRADITION can also be a very evil thing, as it is in false teachings, ( mostly UNintentional, but intentionally as well). I have never believed that HE'LL is an eternal place of torment; because that is NOT what scripture says, God is NOT A WICKED CRUEL MONSTER, who tortures those who reject Him, in a pit of liquid fire, torturing them for an eternity! This teaching is a repeated story of TRADITIONAL dogma, from the original Catholic
The original bible texts were written in the purest forms of Hebrew, and Greek, some Latin, and since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the purest Hebrew, and Greek texts are available. Many bible Concordance books give every original word meaning, that goes along with every bible verse. The STRONG'S Concordance Bible and encyclopedia is exact to the original texts. Please Continue to comment ABOVE this one............
rolynstone48. I completely agree that man-made religion is always fallible, and can be used for evil purposes. WHY? Because people, can be evil, especially people in POWER, who are religious OR NOT! However, religion is very different from SPIRITUALITY, and the religious are very different from the truly spiritual. Many different religions believe in an afterlife, a type of heaven, and a hell. Some of them are horribly gruesome, along with the Firey flames. Christian doctrine was altered
The person who wrote about Darwin's father and grandfather being Mason's, is telling a true FACT. EVIL IS VERY REAL, it is SO obvious all around us. Those who deny it, or cannot see it, are in darkness, and the truth is NOT in them. When people reject truth, and deny God, they are being deceived, and until they humble themselves enough to admit that they lack true knowledge - they will continue in this darkness! Evolution fails miserably at explaining WHY there is so much evil in the world. Th
Religion is the source of all evil in this world - and there are No smart believers because belief trumps reason and without reason , fools can be led into error by those clever enough to manipulate dogma to decieve many!
LOVE ALL the intelligent comments from those who KNOW the TRUTH that God IS real! It's so great to know that there are a lot of smart believers, defending our faith! And, NO we are not defending any man made religious denominations, we are defending the TRUTH of God, Christ, and Salvation. Our personal, spiritual relationship with God, through Christ, our Salvation, and the Holy Spirit of God is what motivates us, NOT a church building, or fear of punishment, or blind faith. We want others t
Content. Please read comment below first........ " We are all animals, and they are our ancestors!" What a completely retarded thing to say, and USE as an excuse, and an explanation for our human behavior! And then there's the totally illogical excuse of, " We differ from all of our ancestors, in that we have a BIG BRAIN! We are only superior in that we use our BIG BRAIN to advance our modern world!". WHAT A completely stupid saying! We are VERY different than animals for so many reasons,
You LIE on so many levels, to justify your values, and denial of a Creator. The more scientists learn about DNA- the more scientists realize that everything WAS designed, by an intelligent designer. Cosmology alone shouts out the extreme precision, and brilliant thought HAD to be used in the forming of the universe, these findings also contradict the big bang theory. The number of dead stars, the rate in which they die show they are less than 10,000 years old, same for MANY, MANY other known
lol all you mindless religion freaks believe in god. All religion is was a creation by man but some or to dumb enough to realize it. How many times does the bible, Quran or any other religious text need to have false information for you all to realize it?
Please read the comment below first!......................We all know that extreme evil definitely exists. It would be a huge lie to deny it. Just try to come up with as many as you can, and then ask yourself, if ALL of these evil things, and human behavior, choices, qualities, etc- cal they all be explained simply as our human nature, and animal instinct?? NO WAY! Animals do not sin, they do not molest their young, or abuse them. They kill to eat, and survive, they do not abuse, rape, mur
DO YOU REALLY think that people are stupid enough to believe all of these LIES in this video?? First of all - He'll is not eternal, it is the lake of fire, and is to be on the earth to purify the earth, and to destroy all evil and sin that is upon the earth. It is for an age, but is extinguished once the earth is cleansed- IT IS SYMBOLIC!! The torment is that of regret- NOT Physical torture! Not all Denominations of Christianity believe in an eternal hellfire, but those who reject God- w
@MrRustytrain sigh. your very clever:) I by no means consider you retarted, but i dont see how i cannot think that, afterall you are freaking about a bubble?
this is sooo stupid, and make sence wen u do somthing, 9,000 veiws for this?
wtf is wrong with you, god can make somthing appear out of nothing just like this earth was made and god can do anything and ur complaining over iron in hell? WTFFFFFFFFF man u need a brain and a life, and u cnt use scientist for a afterlife they dont know wats in hell and wats gnna happen when u die sooo srously ur stupid, dumb, and sad soo i perfer u too jst delete it now be4 u embarres urselff !!! bye,
Rather than debate if God is real or not, why don't you seek God for one hour a day for one week of your life and make up your own minds, rather than try to convince people of your own uncertainties. If God is as loving as Christians say He is, Im sure He will make him self know to you if you seek Him. And if He does not exist, Im sure after 7 days and 7 total hours of seeking Him, nothing will happen. Stop being mindless lab rats and start seeking for yourself for once. . . peace to all
There is nothing amazing about any of the lecturing that I wasted my time listening to. The God I met 35 years ago, personally, changed my life from a hell of my own creation into one of productivity and peace and meaning. You don't know Him have never met Him and don't care to, your choice. just stop telling people someone doesn't exist just because you've never met Him. For your next video please explain love, music and consciousness. Why?
@tallbergs as said before "god is an artifact of the mind or brain" read the book reality check or stuff on the biological component to near death or mystical so called experience.
On the other hand, if you would have told Keppler or Sokrates, or Demokrit about quantum physics or DNA or whatever, they might not have believed you. So just because science doesn't say anything about something, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Maybe there is a god, maybe not. And if, he sure hasn't put up a sign. But until there is certain proof , people shall believe whatever they want as long as they don't stop thinking for themselves. I am not going to tell anyone what to believe in.
thanks a lot man...amazing...really amazing and courageous life-saving video!
I have a bad english but it works...i wanna translate this to brazilian portuguese, but i have never done such a video translation...whould you help me?
dondon tribon , you didn't understood the movie, ant the end of it , thats exactly what he said : "learn and be free, and your mind , fight for it " , so in my opinion, religion controles your mind since your childhood ,when you're small and believe in almost everything. listen carefully, and you'll understand, I , myself, believe in god, as a force, not as in a person.
Have you ever dreamed a fire ? Everything you need to feel pain is your mind. You should delete this video, it would be rude to say that it's a stupid upload so I will just say that the man who made this movie has serious lack of logical thinking. If you can destroy religion then do it, but at least you should try to do it in a smart way...
Have any of you been to hell? I (on the brink of death) have seen a glimpse of it. The glimpse that I saw can best be described as'1,000`s of bodies being cut up at one time.' (not fire) That is the only thing I thought of as this occurred. This momentary incident helped me to pursue Christ. My God is greater than your nothingness god. You will be blinded of Truth until you decide to trust in something greater, Greater than yourself.
I love it when someone that thinks they are intelligent speaks in such wild generalizations that show they are in fact a retard. Keep up the good work Dievate, it is good for a laugh.
I had never heard such a detailed explanation of fire before. It was beautiful, a kind of poetry. People who say that scientific explanations of natural phenomena are cold, heartless things that destroy natures beauty have obviously never experienced one, for if they had they would be overwhelmed by the beauty.
you fucking idiot, there is god and i dare you say this, bullshit to dr zakirniak. and watch all his videos. you fucking bullshitter. if you dont believe in god than you can rot in hell. you fuking nut case. what the world was made by somthing out of nuthing. you idiots. the big bang is just further evidence on behalf of god.
To sum up, clever scientists understand that when you get some knowledge about this world you forget God, but when you get more KNOWLEDGE you remember him.
And yes, only science not help you to understand this world. You have to be not blind to see what is real and what is delusions. And if you do some research you will understand that there is way too much proofs that evil is indeed real and ruling at the moment in our planet then by a pure chance. Therefore, sad but Hell is probably REAL.
Fire is not a chemical reaction, but one of the matter state: PLASMA.
Now then, if scientists relay only on what they believe (yes, they believe because THEY DON'T KNOW) is to be the truth, then it is easy to make them believe that there are no God at all. However, they are deceived in this case. True scientists are not those who try to disprove something and lough from WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW, but those WHO ALWAYS SEEKING THE TRUTH. And the truth is:Theories and hypotheses ARE NOT TRUE KNOWLEDGE.
how does one create a painting if he was not created in the first place.
Apes live in the jungle and in zoo's when you find me one that's showing signs that he's evolving into a human can you send me a picture please because ive never seen a half ape half man.
A painting is not a living thing. It can't evolve. No one ever claimed that humans evolved from apes. We are apes(primates). Evolution states that apes and humans share a common ancestor. Biology states that apes and humans share a common ancestor. DNA states that we share a common ancestor. You will never see a half-human/half-ape the same way you will never see a "crocaduck". We understand that you just don't get it.
The whole evolution thing supports that we came from rocks are you such and idiot not to see that is just a evil theory created and supported by masons as darwins grandfather and other relations were mason's.
You're making an incorrect assumption about the current theory of evolution. We didn't evolve from modern apes you see in the zoo; that would be ridiculous. We and modern apes shared a common ancestor millions of years ago. Both species then evolved at the same rate.
darwins father and grand father were masons and masons support this evolutionary theory as this is all it is a theory made up by followers of lucifer the morning sun.
Wake up and do some proper research why do you think the theory was so heavily funded into the schooling system are we not now being bombarded by evolutionary ideas n films wake up Hollywood the whore of black magick has cast its spell on you.
what is the nature of the flotsam floatin in this guy's apartment 24/7 (which is only visible in the near infra-red) surely there is a ready explanation .. I'm anxiously awaiting your assessment .. take a look at his channel.
There is no such thing as oxidization .. I think you're referring to oxidation*. Please clarify.
You mention mindless bullshit - strikes me as if you are refering to yourself. Who told you there is no Hell? You hope there is no Hell - you better hope there isn't. Review Sleep Paralysis .. and look up "I went to hell" in Youtube. Scary as ... well .. Hell! I wouldn't take this guy's word for squat. Consensus does not for reality make.
Who told you that there is hell? (Don't bother saying that its written in the Bible/Qu'ran, I want proof not fairy tales). Have you seen it? Have you talked to anyone that have seen it? Anyone sane, conscious that have seen it.
Dark matter is a concept made up by scientists to compensate lack of mass that should be present in accrodance with what we can see through telescopes. You cannot intimidate any thinking person with this. Dark matter is simply another thing we don't know, YET.
So what you imply is that if I don't beilieve in an invisible place of eternal torture filled with "magical fire" that no one has ever seen (and no one will ever see), means that I'm a junkie? Yes, that should be pretty logical...
@Vejita12 ...if you wana buillt something, you need materials... we are magnific creatures. but we are blinded by our beauty. the hell is not a place, and we will not sufer for an eternity, but we will die, and our "souls" will end to exist. escuse my pour language. CHRIST is alive!
Which you further characterize as a gaseous COMPOUND and nothing in fire is drawn by electromagnetism (teehee) Wave-like particles or particle-like waves? Heat is radiative .. no motion necessary. ie No intervening gas necessary. This all scores very low on the rigorous science ladder. Science FAIL.
Don't spout on about science if you are not qualified .. small booboo but speaks volumes.
As state in the video its not gas that creates smoke but "jiggling apart molecules" of wood. Nowhere in this video it is said that anything in fire is drawn by electromagnetism. Its molecule like molecules (of gas). Heat is "radiative" because of the jiggling motion of atoms. The more they jiggle the higher the temperature. Gas is providing those atoms. No gas, no atoms. No atoms, no jiggling. No jiggling, no heat. So its all about jiggling MOTION... of atoms that come from GAS.
wrong .. an electric arc in space (vaccuum) will give you a nice tan .. no molecules required .. dangerous when people without firm science backgrounds (degrees from recognized UNIVERSITIES) spout on about gut-feeling science. It's the bane of our modern world .. home-spun scientists .. no further ahead than medievel alchemists. End of Story. Does'nt mean there is no HELL tho .. some kind of trans-dimensional existence .. who knows.
"An electric arc is an electrical breakdown of a GAS which produces an ongoing plasma discharge, resulting from a current flowing through normally nonconductive media such as air."
"A vacuum arc can arise when the surfaces of METAL electrodes in contact with a good vacuum begin to emit electrons either through heating (thermionic emission) or via an electric field that is sufficient to cause field electron emission."
Sir your idea of "fire" is VERY limited. What ever made you think that hellfire would be a tree burning? Here is a form of "fire" that DOESN'T need those three factors to survive or give off heat: Plasma. Referred to in the Quran as "smokeless fire", could you deny? I never saw lava giving off smoke nor is the Sun. Atheists live in a cage for their mind and only think "freely" within that cage, they can't handle the unknown.
Plasma is NOT a fire, its a gas in which most partricles are ionized, its a fourth state of matter. Plasma doesn't give off heat? The Sun is made of plasma.. so are lightnings, try touching those and consider it your first experiment.
So if you didn't get that by now, yes, we deny!
Lava is also not a fire, its a molten rock - atoms + high temperature (energy).
Didn't he said something like our understanding of fire "goes far, far deeper" and yet, this brief introduction was to much for you.
You just contradicted yourself, I said that the Quran states that "they (Jinns) are beings of smokeless fire(plasma)". A fire cannot be smokeless, The word "fire" here is used to represent the factor of heat.
Therefore what i said in my last post was that Plasma not only GIVES OFF HEAT but does not need those factors which normal fire requires to survive. You just proved my claim furthuer
"Here is a form of 'fire' that DOESN'T need those three factors to survive or give off heat: Plasma." - show me those Jinns in that statement?
Plasma is a state of matter (like liquid, gas, solid) so it needs matter-atoms (like fire) and a LOOOOT of energy to ionize them (just like fire to start chemical reaction) if what you said was true, stars would be eternal, so would be be lightnings which is TOTAL BULLSHIT!
Jinns are of smokeless fire, like Allah said in the Quran. We believe in Allah and in everything He said to us. If you don't believe in Him, then it has no use to discuss, because you have no value for the Author and you will always try to find a excuse for every explanation we give. So FutureMujahideen, you are free to let him talk, we are not obligated to discuss with people about this kind of things.
Smokeless fire... there are many kinds of fires that don't give visible smoke. Are those smokeless to? If there are Jinns they're not made of plasma :)
What explanations have you given? That stars are lamps to strike down satans? Those kind of explanations?
You can belive in anything you want, but don't try to poke your nose in matters you have no knowledge nor you dont understand.
Yes, I don't talk with people who watch Alladin as if it was a documentary.. Jinns xDDDD
We are not talking about VISIBLE smoke here, we are talking about SMOKE itself whether visible or not. Plasma does NOT give off smoke. Jinns are made of plasma. And as for the verse "the stars are MISSILES (not lamps) to strike down satans" refers to those Jinns who try to eavesdrop on the angels in order to learn the future which then they tell so called "fortune tellers". The "stars" are shooting stars you see in the night sky. I think you are confused as to what we are trying to say
Plasam does not give smoke because plasma is NOT A FIRE! It's a state of matter like liquid, gas or solid. In fact its a regular gas in which atoms get so much energy that they become ionized! IONIZED ATOMS!
Imagine i am a man living in the 17th century, would i understand "smokeless fire" better or "It's a state of matter like liquid, gas or solid. In fact its a regular gas in which atoms get so much energy that they become ionized! IONIZED ATOMS"? The Quran was made so that people from all ages could understand, in this age we just understand in more detail. Its as simple as that
But wouldn't all knowing god put in something that would be understandable for everyone... even for those guys coming after us in like 2000 years who will understand much more than us? He could say that its ionized atoms, people like you would say that "God has its mysterious ways" and now (which isn't that long, just 1000 years later) we all would know that he said the truth, not just ridiculous bullshit that even partially educated kids laugh at.
Tell me how YOU would of explained ...say the setting sun to a person in the 16th century. Or how you would explain meteors in a way that people understand almost instantly in their owns ways. This challenge is actually in the Quran : "and ask those who disbelieve to come up with a single chapter like ours"
You know, of course, that words like atom (Democritus's theory), electron was known hundreds of years before Christ. Just like magnetism. Its a common misconception assuming that ancient people were 'dumber' than us. In fact they were more intelligent than us and had quite a bit of undersdanding of maths, astronomy, philosphy, etc.: Ptolomey, Plato, Thales, Aristotle, Archimedes, Euclid, Crates and MANY more. They were the ones who gave us those things, very first scientists. :)
Not to mention Inks, Summers, who watched stars thousands of years before Galileo, understood many things about maths (geometry - shape of their fields suggested that).
Even Egyptians, who for example could predict solar eclypse and what they have told people? That its Gods who are mad at them for being 'bad'. :) How do we call, now, the sedond people? DUMB!
Egyptians build structures that astonish even us, so they were fine or the finest engineers.
Look this idscussion is not going anywhere because it seems that you and me are not talking on the same level. I am trying to give you proof but you are just giving me slightly related...info i guess which has nothing to do with what i said before.
I don't deny any of your Qu'ran interpretations but whatever you say about science is wrong. Plasma and magma are not fires. Both of those require atoms and energy - exactly what this video is about.
You asked me how I would explain to ancient peolpe what is fire, well as I have shown they were very intelligent so I would explain them exactly how this video does and most of those I mentioned (Greeks, Egyptians, Summers, Inks) would understand without any problems.
and whats wrong with this? If you turn on a lamp in your house it would give a "trail" or "ray" of light on your wall just like shooting stars do. There is nothing wrong with this verse so i don't get your problem...
Light from a lamp goes in ALL DIRECTIONS not just one like shooting stars or a "ray" of light.. I think that all knowing god would know such things...
And I just fail to understand how can you call a falling meteorite (shooting star) a lamp. For me a lamp would mean those bright dots on the "lowest heavens", not this sudden line of light... cause if it means meteorites than where are the stars explained in the Qu'ran?
You have a way with getting confused. I don't know about you but all the lamps in my home have SHADES which cause a "light ray" effect when the lamp is turned on. Also i feel you should take note that the English translations of the Quran can vary significantly in the words used. It is hard to explain theology and its relation to scientific aspects to a person who gets confused so easily.
Ahh that all depends on language. The original Arabic text is never changed. Some of the meaning of arabic words can have many different meanings in english that s why we have different translations. Ask anyone who can speak another language than English, they will always have a word which has more than one meaning if translated into english.
I hadn't realized that up till now that you think that the flames of fire gives of smoke... which is not true.. watch the film above from 5:48 and learn that the heated material gives of smoke not the fire itself. There might not even be fire yet when smoke apears. Light a match and blow away the fire, it will give off smoke even though the fire is not there.
Yes, I am confused explain to me how "missiles to strike down satans" means "Jinns who try to eavesdrop on the angels"
I mean for me "missiles to strike down" means weapons to kill. How did you come up with eavesdroping, which more or less means hearing... (in the vacuum of space?), is pretty confusing to me.
Fortune tellers use the help of Jinns to "predict" the future. Many of these fortune tellers are fake but the ones who are real do invoke such "spirits/Jinns". These Jinns then try and eavesdrop on the angels not in the vacuum of space, but in heaven (suggesting heaven is physically real). To prevent this, meteors are thrown at them as a defense mechanism used by the angels which either stuns the Jinn or kills them. Thus the word "missile" fits in perfectly
I wanted to point out like hundreds of things that aren't even wrong but ridiculous in what you've just written... but like I said I won't talk to a fuck nut...
I am sorry about that last word but I just cannot be kind about this, cause I see that you'er one of those people who watch Alladin as if it was a documentary.
"fuck nut", losing temper are we? Well i don't resort to cheap insults if i ever am being PWNED by someone else (which almost never happened).
Alladin as a documentary, i know it won't make much sense to you but alladin was freemasonic and i live to destroy freemasonry. Anyways i dont see where this conversation is going as you and i both don't understand what each other is trying to say. SO far you have not disproved a single point i have given.
When you die you become spirit/soul whatever which is from that other world, right? So you are not made of atoms, right? So you cannot be burned by plasma, which is ionized atoms, no atoms - no plasma . Which is exactly the whole point of this video. What you feel as heat are jiggling atoms.
1. Who told you that spirits do not have atoms? Does light have atoms? If not then how come it is affected by the gravity of a black hole for example?
2. It is THE PERSON who will be going to hell, not his or her soul only. YOU are your body and your soul. At the last day your soul will return to a new body made in the image of your old one (as that one has been decomposed).
1. Wave-corpuscular duality of photons, electrons. Photons have angular momentum, that's why... another thing we know for like decades. Haven't you heard of E=mc^2? Photon, which sort of does not have mass, can turn into electron and positron, which do have mass.
2. Qu'ran does not state that its made of atoms. So whatever you say it will be your own interpretation. Unless you can present me some kind of experiment results regarding souls, lets leave fairytales to the children :)
"show me jinns in that statement" what exactly do you mean?
Now where did i ever mention "eternal"? Jinns die like the rest of us. They just live much longer like the stars. You are either trying to twist my words or don't understand what i am saying
"I said that the Quran states that "they (Jinns) are beings of smokeless fire(plasma)" "
Did Allah allowed you to lie, because that statement is a lie, you'd said that plasma is a smokeless fire (which is a total bullshit) and up to that post you'd never made a mention of Jinns.
Plasma IS smokeless fire. "smokeless" as in doesn't give off smoke and "fire" as in gives of energy or heat. Remember the Quran was revealed in such a way that men from all ages of time could understand and if you look at it from that point of view it makes more than perfect sense
Yeah, that's a nice metophore, but at the begining you said that it did not need fuel, energy nor chemical reaction to be a plasma but it does need all of those three factors to exist. It need gas, a lot of energy to ionize atoms and ionizing of atoms is a chemical reaction. NO ATOMS, NO PLASMA!
If we take your definition of "fire" as true than your body is a "smokeless fire" it doesn't give off smoke and just as fire it gives of energy and heat that can be easily seen in infrared spectrum.
Saying that plasma is fire is a nice metaphore but its just metaphore, its like saying that the Sun is a big lamp.. but in reality its not. Its a star and plasma is a matter. And I would like to see a living creature (you said that Jinns die and for something to be able to die it must be alive) that is made of matter which is thousands or even millions of degrees hot.
i laugh at the idea that an altered dimension HAS to operate based off of the same principles as those in the existence we live in now... the easiest way to disprove God is to find the origin of existence, and since all that science has come up thus far has been full of gaping holes it comes down to your own faith and judgment period... by the same laws of science energy cannot be created nor destroyed so whats the origin of energy? this has the same flaws all other theories have
We know that it doesn't operate based off of the same principles, for instance in high, high, high temperature weak force and electromagnetic force join together to create one super force, which has completely different properities and in even higer temperatures all forces make one super force.
What you said IS written in the Bible and its a complete BS :)
God of the Bible (or Quran or any other man made god) was disproved a long time ago, you just cannot accept that.
if they did live long enough to know what we know now, it was have just confirmed the there is a God, because this stuff is just to complex to random happen
you can't reason with religious people, they're mentally ill. instead, they should gather them up, sedate lock and put them in a padded room where they can't harm themselves or others. or reproduce.
The authors of this video suggest reasoning undoes belief in God, then rely on hand-waving to suggest that most scientists would check no if asked about hell or other tough topics, or that they answer yes "to make mom happy", or that our scientific patriarchs would certainly change their point of view with today's information.
They rely primarily upon rhetoric and words of propaganda like "embarrassing", "sociopaths", "bullshit", "ego-maniacal", and "nut job" instead of reason. How ironic.
You seem to ignore the entire last 75% of the video. You rely on incomplete information to tarnish the name of someone who disbelieves religion, without actually refuting any of the points they really made.
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They spend ten minutes on explaining the physics of fire, to prove that hell can't exist - only then to conclude "but if you tell a Christian that, they'll only say "hellfire is magical"... hahaha, what bullshit!!".
Do I really need to "give an argument" to explain the sheer stupidity of that? The entire premise behind such religious beliefs is essentially... "belief in supernatural magic". The guy talks 10 minutes and basically says nothing at all.
Hold on, I'm confused are you arguing for or against religion?
Because it sounds like your arguing for it, but then you say that
"The entire premise behind such religious beliefs is essentially... "belief in supernatural magic". Which is true.
And yes, you do need to give an argument(no matter what side you argue for), you can't just say. "Well that's stupid". It's the reason why humans have brains, it's so we can reason our thoughts and beliefs, not just make assertions.
I thought it should've been obvious to those reading anyway - and quite frankly, if you look at my first comment properly (and by that, I don't mean "read a few words and replace the rest with a strawman"), it was.
In case you still don't get it, I wasn't particularly arguing "for or against religion" - I arged against a video making a vain and stupid point against religion.
No matter what "side" you're on, faulty logic and sheer stupidity can be found on both.
He goes on to say that even if hell is real then there must be a source of oxygen (I.E. escape) or a source of electricity (I.E. entertainment probably at this point.)
Plus the fact that religions are founded on "belief in supernatural magic" is almost profoundly stupid.
Um, how exactly can a "fact" be "stupid"? Yes, all the resurrection of the dead, Jesus' miracles, God's direct power over the world, all of those fall into the loose category of "supernatural magic" (although Christians probably wouldn't call it "magic", for obvious reasons) - believers all believe in this stuff, so telling them that "but that would make it superstitious, don't you think" is like saying nothing at all... for 10 minutes.
No, it's dumb. Magic has proven demonstrably to be either completely explainable natural phenomena, and are occasionally performed by people who are doing so in fraudulent ways.
So, you belive in magic? Well, god told you in the Bible to kill witches and stone wizards... so what you are trying to say is that you watch "Harry Potter" as a documentary?
Can I start laughing at you now or will you write something even more stupid?
"how incredibly stupid the argumentation in this video is."
I was reffering to this post and if it was being ment as ridicule religion... man, you should start learning this language from the page on which "a, b, c.." is written.
Very good one. Not too specific, but for everybody`s level of understanding, especially for those who believe in Tooth Fairy, god, Santa Clause and others
It's not Richard Dawkins. Go to the top and click on the "This is a video response to ---" button. That's the original creator. They do sound remarkably similar though.
goodness came from god. allah created science, everything is not just puffy magic, of course there is atoms. allah created atoms.there are many scientific and mathematical miracles in the quran. science is another way of understanding the gods creation. ask yourself... why is there reality? why cant there be nothing. how can somthing come from nothing? god is eternal. i know its a hard concept to grasp but its beyond what we know
77mxb1 5 months ago
Let science explain Demons! Let science explain EXORCISM! Than I`ll say that God doesn`t exist!
CrazyAxelStyle 6 months ago
@CrazyAxelStyle
Hysteria/Underlying guilt.
PoloniumSmoker 5 months ago
Dudes, better to belive in GOD! If God doesn`t exist, I won`t go to hell! But if he exists and I said something bad about him, then it won`t be quite good :D
CrazyAxelStyle 6 months ago
12 people are hiding behind religion, unable to see the truth.
stainlessmole 6 months ago
our fullest of potentials...i believe that will never occur do to our inability to have differing views without resorting to violence, the truth is that we are imperfect apes that know much less about our place in the universe than some of us would...believe...
lamecwedsi 7 months ago
@mrmindlessdrivle...you seriousley believe that pure science cannot explain the origins of life? Do you actually read anything at all, or are you so wrapped inside your own ego to admit that your beliefs are nothing but just that...your beliefs.I find it sad that people have to argue about something when the reality of truth is that we are always evolving...we do not understand everything..we are still very much in the dark ages and will remain as such for as long as it takes to reach full....
lamecwedsi 7 months ago
RESEARCH: The Lake of Fire is Located....... Hell is NOT Eternal......... The NWO, ILLUMINATTI , Aleins, Demons, Nephillem,........ Aliens are Really Demons........ Science Facts in the Bible....... Bible Science....... Evolution Debunked in Cosmology.....Evolution Debunked in Physics.... Evolution Debunked in Chemistry..... Evolution Debunked in Biology....Etc. .....Scientific Evidence of Life After Death.....Bible Prophesies Fulfilled..... Ex-Satanist John Todd...... Freemasonry, ILLUMINATT
TheWayandWordofLife 7 months ago
So, what does God choose to do to END all the pain, EVIL, and suffering on this earth? He utterly destroys it, and everyone who KNOWINGLY rejects the truth of Him, AND the GIFT of Salvation, through the ONE and ONLY KNOWN SAVIOR! There is NO other Savior within ANY other religion, and there is NO OTHER holy book that has several hundred, proven, fulfilled prophesies, and very important and very specific ones that are occurring right NOW, such as one world govt., New World Order, the beginning
TheWayandWordofLife 7 months ago
Continued: Please read the 5th comment FIRST, and this one Last. ( parts 1-5 comments )......... My point is, is that God and Satan, DO EXIST, and there are thousands of realistic reasons, and facts about ourselves, and our universe that affirm this belief. It is NOT because of a BOOK! The bible, simply gives further solidity on this). ANYWAYS, SIN is within our inner self, and it manifest itself by our actions, behavior, what is in our heart and mind, and spirit ( if alive in the spirit
TheWayandWordofLife 7 months ago
Continued, Please read comments below this First.............. HELL CANNOT be Eternal, because it is thrown INTO the Lake of Fire, during judgement. The bible CLEARLY states that God throws HE'LL, and Death INTO the Lake of Fire to be Destroyed. God then says that " This is the Second Death!". Those who have KNOWINGLY REJECTED GOD, Jesus Christ, and Salvation - are KNOWINGLY rejecting Eternal Life, within the New Earth and New Heavens. EVIL is a very real power, and it reigns over our world w
TheWayandWordofLife 7 months ago
Continuation: Please read comments below, First......... TRADITION can also be a very evil thing, as it is in false teachings, ( mostly UNintentional, but intentionally as well). I have never believed that HE'LL is an eternal place of torment; because that is NOT what scripture says, God is NOT A WICKED CRUEL MONSTER, who tortures those who reject Him, in a pit of liquid fire, torturing them for an eternity! This teaching is a repeated story of TRADITIONAL dogma, from the original Catholic
TheWayandWordofLife 7 months ago
The original bible texts were written in the purest forms of Hebrew, and Greek, some Latin, and since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the purest Hebrew, and Greek texts are available. Many bible Concordance books give every original word meaning, that goes along with every bible verse. The STRONG'S Concordance Bible and encyclopedia is exact to the original texts. Please Continue to comment ABOVE this one............
TheWayandWordofLife 7 months ago
rolynstone48. I completely agree that man-made religion is always fallible, and can be used for evil purposes. WHY? Because people, can be evil, especially people in POWER, who are religious OR NOT! However, religion is very different from SPIRITUALITY, and the religious are very different from the truly spiritual. Many different religions believe in an afterlife, a type of heaven, and a hell. Some of them are horribly gruesome, along with the Firey flames. Christian doctrine was altered
TheWayandWordofLife 7 months ago
The person who wrote about Darwin's father and grandfather being Mason's, is telling a true FACT. EVIL IS VERY REAL, it is SO obvious all around us. Those who deny it, or cannot see it, are in darkness, and the truth is NOT in them. When people reject truth, and deny God, they are being deceived, and until they humble themselves enough to admit that they lack true knowledge - they will continue in this darkness! Evolution fails miserably at explaining WHY there is so much evil in the world. Th
TheWayandWordofLife 8 months ago
@TheWayandWordofLife
Religion is the source of all evil in this world - and there are No smart believers because belief trumps reason and without reason , fools can be led into error by those clever enough to manipulate dogma to decieve many!
rolynstone48 7 months ago
LOVE ALL the intelligent comments from those who KNOW the TRUTH that God IS real! It's so great to know that there are a lot of smart believers, defending our faith! And, NO we are not defending any man made religious denominations, we are defending the TRUTH of God, Christ, and Salvation. Our personal, spiritual relationship with God, through Christ, our Salvation, and the Holy Spirit of God is what motivates us, NOT a church building, or fear of punishment, or blind faith. We want others t
TheWayandWordofLife 8 months ago
Content. Please read comment below first........ " We are all animals, and they are our ancestors!" What a completely retarded thing to say, and USE as an excuse, and an explanation for our human behavior! And then there's the totally illogical excuse of, " We differ from all of our ancestors, in that we have a BIG BRAIN! We are only superior in that we use our BIG BRAIN to advance our modern world!". WHAT A completely stupid saying! We are VERY different than animals for so many reasons,
TheWayandWordofLife 8 months ago
You LIE on so many levels, to justify your values, and denial of a Creator. The more scientists learn about DNA- the more scientists realize that everything WAS designed, by an intelligent designer. Cosmology alone shouts out the extreme precision, and brilliant thought HAD to be used in the forming of the universe, these findings also contradict the big bang theory. The number of dead stars, the rate in which they die show they are less than 10,000 years old, same for MANY, MANY other known
TheWayandWordofLife 8 months ago
lol all you mindless religion freaks believe in god. All religion is was a creation by man but some or to dumb enough to realize it. How many times does the bible, Quran or any other religious text need to have false information for you all to realize it?
momg32 9 months ago
Please read the comment below first!......................We all know that extreme evil definitely exists. It would be a huge lie to deny it. Just try to come up with as many as you can, and then ask yourself, if ALL of these evil things, and human behavior, choices, qualities, etc- cal they all be explained simply as our human nature, and animal instinct?? NO WAY! Animals do not sin, they do not molest their young, or abuse them. They kill to eat, and survive, they do not abuse, rape, mur
TheWayandWordofLife 9 months ago
DO YOU REALLY think that people are stupid enough to believe all of these LIES in this video?? First of all - He'll is not eternal, it is the lake of fire, and is to be on the earth to purify the earth, and to destroy all evil and sin that is upon the earth. It is for an age, but is extinguished once the earth is cleansed- IT IS SYMBOLIC!! The torment is that of regret- NOT Physical torture! Not all Denominations of Christianity believe in an eternal hellfire, but those who reject God- w
TheWayandWordofLife 9 months ago
@TheWayandWordofLife good story bro
ak2pacalypse 8 months ago
god is real. so is hell. sorry to burst ur bubble of the hope tht when u die u go no where!!
briannacollins44 11 months ago
@briannacollins44 Ohhh nooo my bubble noo!, retard.
MrRustytrain 11 months ago
@MrRustytrain sigh. your very clever:) I by no means consider you retarted, but i dont see how i cannot think that, afterall you are freaking about a bubble?
briannacollins44 11 months ago
@briannacollins44 It's called sarcasm...
MrRustytrain 11 months ago
guy made a good video but think about it... completely pointless, because any Christian can reply by saying "hell is not physical it's spiritual"
-.-
Alexthapanda 1 year ago
Rationality the true saviour of humanity ourselves
StormAndy123 1 year ago
this is sooo stupid, and make sence wen u do somthing, 9,000 veiws for this?
wtf is wrong with you, god can make somthing appear out of nothing just like this earth was made and god can do anything and ur complaining over iron in hell? WTFFFFFFFFF man u need a brain and a life, and u cnt use scientist for a afterlife they dont know wats in hell and wats gnna happen when u die sooo srously ur stupid, dumb, and sad soo i perfer u too jst delete it now be4 u embarres urselff !!! bye,
lialelovesjb 1 year ago
HAHAHA good all the better
tienen23 1 year ago
Rather than debate if God is real or not, why don't you seek God for one hour a day for one week of your life and make up your own minds, rather than try to convince people of your own uncertainties. If God is as loving as Christians say He is, Im sure He will make him self know to you if you seek Him. And if He does not exist, Im sure after 7 days and 7 total hours of seeking Him, nothing will happen. Stop being mindless lab rats and start seeking for yourself for once. . . peace to all
J2thawizzle 1 year ago
There is nothing amazing about any of the lecturing that I wasted my time listening to. The God I met 35 years ago, personally, changed my life from a hell of my own creation into one of productivity and peace and meaning. You don't know Him have never met Him and don't care to, your choice. just stop telling people someone doesn't exist just because you've never met Him. For your next video please explain love, music and consciousness. Why?
tallbergs 1 year ago
@tallbergs as said before "god is an artifact of the mind or brain" read the book reality check or stuff on the biological component to near death or mystical so called experience.
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TheLovesoul1 11 months ago
On the other hand, if you would have told Keppler or Sokrates, or Demokrit about quantum physics or DNA or whatever, they might not have believed you. So just because science doesn't say anything about something, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Maybe there is a god, maybe not. And if, he sure hasn't put up a sign. But until there is certain proof , people shall believe whatever they want as long as they don't stop thinking for themselves. I am not going to tell anyone what to believe in.
Shadyblast 1 year ago
thanks a lot man...amazing...really amazing and courageous life-saving video!
I have a bad english but it works...i wanna translate this to brazilian portuguese, but i have never done such a video translation...whould you help me?
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steveo638 1 year ago
becose the only hell is here on earth end off story
2012Video 1 year ago
boy u rlly like to hear urself talk dont ya? Why even bother to make this video?? wat are you trying to acomplish???
kidhatten 1 year ago
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danielltw1212 1 year ago
dondon tribon , you didn't understood the movie, ant the end of it , thats exactly what he said : "learn and be free, and your mind , fight for it " , so in my opinion, religion controles your mind since your childhood ,when you're small and believe in almost everything. listen carefully, and you'll understand, I , myself, believe in god, as a force, not as in a person.
bashinosdemic 1 year ago
I Love The Way This Guy Talks ''Accent and Voice''
Er3ck003 1 year ago
Have you ever dreamed a fire ? Everything you need to feel pain is your mind. You should delete this video, it would be rude to say that it's a stupid upload so I will just say that the man who made this movie has serious lack of logical thinking. If you can destroy religion then do it, but at least you should try to do it in a smart way...
DonDonTiribom 1 year ago
Have any of you been to hell? I (on the brink of death) have seen a glimpse of it. The glimpse that I saw can best be described as'1,000`s of bodies being cut up at one time.' (not fire) That is the only thing I thought of as this occurred. This momentary incident helped me to pursue Christ. My God is greater than your nothingness god. You will be blinded of Truth until you decide to trust in something greater, Greater than yourself.
Hsojaml 1 year ago
@Hsojaml ur an idiot....hahahahahahaa
jojo8178 1 year ago
like this :)
CrisLovePatratzel 1 year ago
I love it when someone that thinks they are intelligent speaks in such wild generalizations that show they are in fact a retard. Keep up the good work Dievate, it is good for a laugh.
kd5gua 1 year ago
All of the scientific discoveries that these scientists of the past never heard of, just point more to intelligent design and a creator.
kd5gua 1 year ago
I had never heard such a detailed explanation of fire before. It was beautiful, a kind of poetry. People who say that scientific explanations of natural phenomena are cold, heartless things that destroy natures beauty have obviously never experienced one, for if they had they would be overwhelmed by the beauty.
Guaguanco11 1 year ago
@Guaguanco11 Thank you, that's exactly how I feel.
megachepo 1 year ago
so beautiful.... i cried
fernaneo 1 year ago
I can see this video contains too much truth for some people to contain... Stop believing in fairy tales!
Great video
NUKE167 1 year ago
you fucking idiot, there is god and i dare you say this, bullshit to dr zakirniak. and watch all his videos. you fucking bullshitter. if you dont believe in god than you can rot in hell. you fuking nut case. what the world was made by somthing out of nuthing. you idiots. the big bang is just further evidence on behalf of god.
jamil161 1 year ago
To sum up, clever scientists understand that when you get some knowledge about this world you forget God, but when you get more KNOWLEDGE you remember him.
And yes, only science not help you to understand this world. You have to be not blind to see what is real and what is delusions. And if you do some research you will understand that there is way too much proofs that evil is indeed real and ruling at the moment in our planet then by a pure chance. Therefore, sad but Hell is probably REAL.
ScientistALRIII 1 year ago
Fire is not a chemical reaction, but one of the matter state: PLASMA.
Now then, if scientists relay only on what they believe (yes, they believe because THEY DON'T KNOW) is to be the truth, then it is easy to make them believe that there are no God at all. However, they are deceived in this case. True scientists are not those who try to disprove something and lough from WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW, but those WHO ALWAYS SEEKING THE TRUTH. And the truth is:Theories and hypotheses ARE NOT TRUE KNOWLEDGE.
ScientistALRIII 1 year ago
how does one create a painting if he was not created in the first place.
Apes live in the jungle and in zoo's when you find me one that's showing signs that he's evolving into a human can you send me a picture please because ive never seen a half ape half man.
dfstarborn 1 year ago
A painting is not a living thing. It can't evolve. No one ever claimed that humans evolved from apes. We are apes(primates). Evolution states that apes and humans share a common ancestor. Biology states that apes and humans share a common ancestor. DNA states that we share a common ancestor. You will never see a half-human/half-ape the same way you will never see a "crocaduck". We understand that you just don't get it.
yeshuahfullofit 1 year ago
@yeshuahfullofit
The whole evolution thing supports that we came from rocks are you such and idiot not to see that is just a evil theory created and supported by masons as darwins grandfather and other relations were mason's.
dfstarborn 1 year ago
@dfstarborn " The whole evolution thing supports that we came from rocks...". No it doesn't. You don't understand evolution.
yeshuahfullofit 1 year ago
You're making an incorrect assumption about the current theory of evolution. We didn't evolve from modern apes you see in the zoo; that would be ridiculous. We and modern apes shared a common ancestor millions of years ago. Both species then evolved at the same rate.
featheon 1 year ago
@dfstarborn don't be stupid
stoltobot 1 year ago
may god have mercy on you
Spazzlocc 1 year ago
darwins father and grand father were masons and masons support this evolutionary theory as this is all it is a theory made up by followers of lucifer the morning sun.
Wake up and do some proper research why do you think the theory was so heavily funded into the schooling system are we not now being bombarded by evolutionary ideas n films wake up Hollywood the whore of black magick has cast its spell on you.
dfstarborn 1 year ago
@dfstarborn lol
stoltobot 1 year ago
so i assume hell is somewhere near us.. and what u became after u death is something that can be apply to logic law...
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kimie126 1 year ago
2:36 ftw
ButterOnMyBiscuit 2 years ago
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what is the nature of the flotsam floatin in this guy's apartment 24/7 (which is only visible in the near infra-red) surely there is a ready explanation .. I'm anxiously awaiting your assessment .. take a look at his channel.
PigsCanFly99 2 years ago
There is no such thing as oxidization .. I think you're referring to oxidation*. Please clarify.
You mention mindless bullshit - strikes me as if you are refering to yourself. Who told you there is no Hell? You hope there is no Hell - you better hope there isn't. Review Sleep Paralysis .. and look up "I went to hell" in Youtube. Scary as ... well .. Hell! I wouldn't take this guy's word for squat. Consensus does not for reality make.
What is Dark Matter? Mr. Scientist?
PigsCanFly99 2 years ago
Who told you that there is hell? (Don't bother saying that its written in the Bible/Qu'ran, I want proof not fairy tales). Have you seen it? Have you talked to anyone that have seen it? Anyone sane, conscious that have seen it.
Dark matter is a concept made up by scientists to compensate lack of mass that should be present in accrodance with what we can see through telescopes. You cannot intimidate any thinking person with this. Dark matter is simply another thing we don't know, YET.
Vejita12 2 years ago
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Who told you there isn't a HELL? Your dope dealer?
PigsCanFly99 2 years ago
So what you imply is that if I don't beilieve in an invisible place of eternal torture filled with "magical fire" that no one has ever seen (and no one will ever see), means that I'm a junkie? Yes, that should be pretty logical...
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steveo638 1 year ago
@Vejita12 ...if you wana buillt something, you need materials... we are magnific creatures. but we are blinded by our beauty. the hell is not a place, and we will not sufer for an eternity, but we will die, and our "souls" will end to exist. escuse my pour language. CHRIST is alive!
joshuamarian1 11 months ago
@Vejita12 I don't mean to imply anything offensive. But you're the one who typed: Why Don't Scientists Fear Hell
So in conclusion you went onto a religious video to oppose the viewers beliefs?...
RobloxiaMania 2 months ago
bogus @ 6:08 re: overcoming electronic bonds (through thermal excitation) creates smoke.
Which you further characterize as a gaseous COMPOUND and nothing in fire is drawn by electromagnetism (teehee) Wave-like particles or particle-like waves? Heat is radiative .. no motion necessary. ie No intervening gas necessary. This all scores very low on the rigorous science ladder. Science FAIL.
Don't spout on about science if you are not qualified .. small booboo but speaks volumes.
PigsCanFly99 2 years ago
As state in the video its not gas that creates smoke but "jiggling apart molecules" of wood. Nowhere in this video it is said that anything in fire is drawn by electromagnetism. Its molecule like molecules (of gas). Heat is "radiative" because of the jiggling motion of atoms. The more they jiggle the higher the temperature. Gas is providing those atoms. No gas, no atoms. No atoms, no jiggling. No jiggling, no heat. So its all about jiggling MOTION... of atoms that come from GAS.
Vejita12 2 years ago
wrong .. an electric arc in space (vaccuum) will give you a nice tan .. no molecules required .. dangerous when people without firm science backgrounds (degrees from recognized UNIVERSITIES) spout on about gut-feeling science. It's the bane of our modern world .. home-spun scientists .. no further ahead than medievel alchemists. End of Story. Does'nt mean there is no HELL tho .. some kind of trans-dimensional existence .. who knows.
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PigsCanFly99 2 years ago
Definitions (by real scientists):
"An electric arc is an electrical breakdown of a GAS which produces an ongoing plasma discharge, resulting from a current flowing through normally nonconductive media such as air."
"A vacuum arc can arise when the surfaces of METAL electrodes in contact with a good vacuum begin to emit electrons either through heating (thermionic emission) or via an electric field that is sufficient to cause field electron emission."
Stop embarrassing yourself, seriously. :)
Vejita12 2 years ago
ah dhis is so confusinq lO l:(
fERNzThaGee 2 years ago
Sir your idea of "fire" is VERY limited. What ever made you think that hellfire would be a tree burning? Here is a form of "fire" that DOESN'T need those three factors to survive or give off heat: Plasma. Referred to in the Quran as "smokeless fire", could you deny? I never saw lava giving off smoke nor is the Sun. Atheists live in a cage for their mind and only think "freely" within that cage, they can't handle the unknown.
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
Plasma is NOT a fire, its a gas in which most partricles are ionized, its a fourth state of matter. Plasma doesn't give off heat? The Sun is made of plasma.. so are lightnings, try touching those and consider it your first experiment.
So if you didn't get that by now, yes, we deny!
Lava is also not a fire, its a molten rock - atoms + high temperature (energy).
Didn't he said something like our understanding of fire "goes far, far deeper" and yet, this brief introduction was to much for you.
Vejita12 2 years ago
You just contradicted yourself, I said that the Quran states that "they (Jinns) are beings of smokeless fire(plasma)". A fire cannot be smokeless, The word "fire" here is used to represent the factor of heat.
Therefore what i said in my last post was that Plasma not only GIVES OFF HEAT but does not need those factors which normal fire requires to survive. You just proved my claim furthuer
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
"Here is a form of 'fire' that DOESN'T need those three factors to survive or give off heat: Plasma." - show me those Jinns in that statement?
Plasma is a state of matter (like liquid, gas, solid) so it needs matter-atoms (like fire) and a LOOOOT of energy to ionize them (just like fire to start chemical reaction) if what you said was true, stars would be eternal, so would be be lightnings which is TOTAL BULLSHIT!
The only thing I proved is your ignorance.
btw Jinns?! How old are you? xDD
Vejita12 2 years ago
Jinns are of smokeless fire, like Allah said in the Quran. We believe in Allah and in everything He said to us. If you don't believe in Him, then it has no use to discuss, because you have no value for the Author and you will always try to find a excuse for every explanation we give. So FutureMujahideen, you are free to let him talk, we are not obligated to discuss with people about this kind of things.
PureMocro 2 years ago
Smokeless fire... there are many kinds of fires that don't give visible smoke. Are those smokeless to? If there are Jinns they're not made of plasma :)
What explanations have you given? That stars are lamps to strike down satans? Those kind of explanations?
You can belive in anything you want, but don't try to poke your nose in matters you have no knowledge nor you dont understand.
Yes, I don't talk with people who watch Alladin as if it was a documentary.. Jinns xDDDD
Vejita12 2 years ago
We are not talking about VISIBLE smoke here, we are talking about SMOKE itself whether visible or not. Plasma does NOT give off smoke. Jinns are made of plasma. And as for the verse "the stars are MISSILES (not lamps) to strike down satans" refers to those Jinns who try to eavesdrop on the angels in order to learn the future which then they tell so called "fortune tellers". The "stars" are shooting stars you see in the night sky. I think you are confused as to what we are trying to say
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
Plasam does not give smoke because plasma is NOT A FIRE! It's a state of matter like liquid, gas or solid. In fact its a regular gas in which atoms get so much energy that they become ionized! IONIZED ATOMS!
Vejita12 2 years ago
Imagine i am a man living in the 17th century, would i understand "smokeless fire" better or "It's a state of matter like liquid, gas or solid. In fact its a regular gas in which atoms get so much energy that they become ionized! IONIZED ATOMS"? The Quran was made so that people from all ages could understand, in this age we just understand in more detail. Its as simple as that
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
I knew you'd say that eventually :)
But wouldn't all knowing god put in something that would be understandable for everyone... even for those guys coming after us in like 2000 years who will understand much more than us? He could say that its ionized atoms, people like you would say that "God has its mysterious ways" and now (which isn't that long, just 1000 years later) we all would know that he said the truth, not just ridiculous bullshit that even partially educated kids laugh at.
Vejita12 2 years ago
Tell me how YOU would of explained ...say the setting sun to a person in the 16th century. Or how you would explain meteors in a way that people understand almost instantly in their owns ways. This challenge is actually in the Quran : "and ask those who disbelieve to come up with a single chapter like ours"
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
You know, of course, that words like atom (Democritus's theory), electron was known hundreds of years before Christ. Just like magnetism. Its a common misconception assuming that ancient people were 'dumber' than us. In fact they were more intelligent than us and had quite a bit of undersdanding of maths, astronomy, philosphy, etc.: Ptolomey, Plato, Thales, Aristotle, Archimedes, Euclid, Crates and MANY more. They were the ones who gave us those things, very first scientists. :)
Vejita12 2 years ago
Not to mention Inks, Summers, who watched stars thousands of years before Galileo, understood many things about maths (geometry - shape of their fields suggested that).
Even Egyptians, who for example could predict solar eclypse and what they have told people? That its Gods who are mad at them for being 'bad'. :) How do we call, now, the sedond people? DUMB!
Egyptians build structures that astonish even us, so they were fine or the finest engineers.
All of them would understand.
Vejita12 2 years ago
Look this idscussion is not going anywhere because it seems that you and me are not talking on the same level. I am trying to give you proof but you are just giving me slightly related...info i guess which has nothing to do with what i said before.
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
I don't deny any of your Qu'ran interpretations but whatever you say about science is wrong. Plasma and magma are not fires. Both of those require atoms and energy - exactly what this video is about.
You asked me how I would explain to ancient peolpe what is fire, well as I have shown they were very intelligent so I would explain them exactly how this video does and most of those I mentioned (Greeks, Egyptians, Summers, Inks) would understand without any problems.
Vejita12 2 years ago
You should read Qu'ran 10 times more, you know:
"And We have (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with lamps,
and we have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans, ... "
- Sura 67
Vejita12 2 years ago
and whats wrong with this? If you turn on a lamp in your house it would give a "trail" or "ray" of light on your wall just like shooting stars do. There is nothing wrong with this verse so i don't get your problem...
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
Light from a lamp goes in ALL DIRECTIONS not just one like shooting stars or a "ray" of light.. I think that all knowing god would know such things...
And I just fail to understand how can you call a falling meteorite (shooting star) a lamp. For me a lamp would mean those bright dots on the "lowest heavens", not this sudden line of light... cause if it means meteorites than where are the stars explained in the Qu'ran?
Vejita12 2 years ago
You have a way with getting confused. I don't know about you but all the lamps in my home have SHADES which cause a "light ray" effect when the lamp is turned on. Also i feel you should take note that the English translations of the Quran can vary significantly in the words used. It is hard to explain theology and its relation to scientific aspects to a person who gets confused so easily.
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
Yeah, I was warned that you change your translation of Qu'ran very often :)
Vejita12 2 years ago
Ahh that all depends on language. The original Arabic text is never changed. Some of the meaning of arabic words can have many different meanings in english that s why we have different translations. Ask anyone who can speak another language than English, they will always have a word which has more than one meaning if translated into english.
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
I hadn't realized that up till now that you think that the flames of fire gives of smoke... which is not true.. watch the film above from 5:48 and learn that the heated material gives of smoke not the fire itself. There might not even be fire yet when smoke apears. Light a match and blow away the fire, it will give off smoke even though the fire is not there.
Vejita12 2 years ago
Yes, I am confused explain to me how "missiles to strike down satans" means "Jinns who try to eavesdrop on the angels"
I mean for me "missiles to strike down" means weapons to kill. How did you come up with eavesdroping, which more or less means hearing... (in the vacuum of space?), is pretty confusing to me.
Vejita12 2 years ago
I will try to explain the best i can:
Fortune tellers use the help of Jinns to "predict" the future. Many of these fortune tellers are fake but the ones who are real do invoke such "spirits/Jinns". These Jinns then try and eavesdrop on the angels not in the vacuum of space, but in heaven (suggesting heaven is physically real). To prevent this, meteors are thrown at them as a defense mechanism used by the angels which either stuns the Jinn or kills them. Thus the word "missile" fits in perfectly
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
I wanted to point out like hundreds of things that aren't even wrong but ridiculous in what you've just written... but like I said I won't talk to a fuck nut...
I am sorry about that last word but I just cannot be kind about this, cause I see that you'er one of those people who watch Alladin as if it was a documentary.
Vejita12 2 years ago
"fuck nut", losing temper are we? Well i don't resort to cheap insults if i ever am being PWNED by someone else (which almost never happened).
Alladin as a documentary, i know it won't make much sense to you but alladin was freemasonic and i live to destroy freemasonry. Anyways i dont see where this conversation is going as you and i both don't understand what each other is trying to say. SO far you have not disproved a single point i have given.
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
When you die you become spirit/soul whatever which is from that other world, right? So you are not made of atoms, right? So you cannot be burned by plasma, which is ionized atoms, no atoms - no plasma . Which is exactly the whole point of this video. What you feel as heat are jiggling atoms.
Vejita12 2 years ago
You have 2 misconceptions:
1. Who told you that spirits do not have atoms? Does light have atoms? If not then how come it is affected by the gravity of a black hole for example?
2. It is THE PERSON who will be going to hell, not his or her soul only. YOU are your body and your soul. At the last day your soul will return to a new body made in the image of your old one (as that one has been decomposed).
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
1. Wave-corpuscular duality of photons, electrons. Photons have angular momentum, that's why... another thing we know for like decades. Haven't you heard of E=mc^2? Photon, which sort of does not have mass, can turn into electron and positron, which do have mass.
2. Qu'ran does not state that its made of atoms. So whatever you say it will be your own interpretation. Unless you can present me some kind of experiment results regarding souls, lets leave fairytales to the children :)
Vejita12 2 years ago
"show me jinns in that statement" what exactly do you mean?
Now where did i ever mention "eternal"? Jinns die like the rest of us. They just live much longer like the stars. You are either trying to twist my words or don't understand what i am saying
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
"I said that the Quran states that "they (Jinns) are beings of smokeless fire(plasma)" "
Did Allah allowed you to lie, because that statement is a lie, you'd said that plasma is a smokeless fire (which is a total bullshit) and up to that post you'd never made a mention of Jinns.
Vejita12 2 years ago
Plasma IS smokeless fire. "smokeless" as in doesn't give off smoke and "fire" as in gives of energy or heat. Remember the Quran was revealed in such a way that men from all ages of time could understand and if you look at it from that point of view it makes more than perfect sense
FutureMujahideen 2 years ago
Yeah, that's a nice metophore, but at the begining you said that it did not need fuel, energy nor chemical reaction to be a plasma but it does need all of those three factors to exist. It need gas, a lot of energy to ionize atoms and ionizing of atoms is a chemical reaction. NO ATOMS, NO PLASMA!
If we take your definition of "fire" as true than your body is a "smokeless fire" it doesn't give off smoke and just as fire it gives of energy and heat that can be easily seen in infrared spectrum.
Vejita12 2 years ago
Saying that plasma is fire is a nice metaphore but its just metaphore, its like saying that the Sun is a big lamp.. but in reality its not. Its a star and plasma is a matter. And I would like to see a living creature (you said that Jinns die and for something to be able to die it must be alive) that is made of matter which is thousands or even millions of degrees hot.
Vejita12 2 years ago
i laugh at the idea that an altered dimension HAS to operate based off of the same principles as those in the existence we live in now... the easiest way to disprove God is to find the origin of existence, and since all that science has come up thus far has been full of gaping holes it comes down to your own faith and judgment period... by the same laws of science energy cannot be created nor destroyed so whats the origin of energy? this has the same flaws all other theories have
JuiceFantastic 2 years ago
We know that it doesn't operate based off of the same principles, for instance in high, high, high temperature weak force and electromagnetic force join together to create one super force, which has completely different properities and in even higer temperatures all forces make one super force.
What you said IS written in the Bible and its a complete BS :)
God of the Bible (or Quran or any other man made god) was disproved a long time ago, you just cannot accept that.
Vejita12 2 years ago
if they did live long enough to know what we know now, it was have just confirmed the there is a God, because this stuff is just to complex to random happen
MeLuvMami 2 years ago
If you want to know about "complex random" that cannot happen, but it happens, read about Quantum mechanics.
Also check out recent discovery that made most of the creationists cry "Self-Sustained Replication of an RNA Enzyme".
Maybe to complex for someone who considers derivative a high level mathematics...
Vejita12 2 years ago
i do have to say that was fucking beautiful. when my kids get old enough to ask me about religion, i'm going to show them this.
rhcpzena 2 years ago
i feel bad for your kids, if you gonna bring them up as atheist
MeLuvMami 2 years ago
you can't reason with religious people, they're mentally ill. instead, they should gather them up, sedate lock and put them in a padded room where they can't harm themselves or others. or reproduce.
rhcpzena 2 years ago
im sure when all this scientist look into the future they would say god is a superstition ,just fiction made by men
lucas503 2 years ago 2
The authors of this video suggest reasoning undoes belief in God, then rely on hand-waving to suggest that most scientists would check no if asked about hell or other tough topics, or that they answer yes "to make mom happy", or that our scientific patriarchs would certainly change their point of view with today's information.
They rely primarily upon rhetoric and words of propaganda like "embarrassing", "sociopaths", "bullshit", "ego-maniacal", and "nut job" instead of reason. How ironic.
JeopardyTempest 2 years ago
You seem to ignore the entire last 75% of the video. You rely on incomplete information to tarnish the name of someone who disbelieves religion, without actually refuting any of the points they really made.
Zephanus 2 years ago 6
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I wonder how many people watching this realize just how incredibly stupid the argumentation in this video is?
"But... but that would mean you have to believe in magic! I mean, that's superstitious!!"
Idiots.
twooffour 2 years ago
So then... tell me how believing in god is any different than believing in Santa Claus or magic.
You call this video stupid but then don't give an argument. That's what you did in elementary school, grow up.
theatrefreak2010 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
They spend ten minutes on explaining the physics of fire, to prove that hell can't exist - only then to conclude "but if you tell a Christian that, they'll only say "hellfire is magical"... hahaha, what bullshit!!".
Do I really need to "give an argument" to explain the sheer stupidity of that? The entire premise behind such religious beliefs is essentially... "belief in supernatural magic". The guy talks 10 minutes and basically says nothing at all.
twooffour 2 years ago
Hold on, I'm confused are you arguing for or against religion?
Because it sounds like your arguing for it, but then you say that
"The entire premise behind such religious beliefs is essentially... "belief in supernatural magic". Which is true.
And yes, you do need to give an argument(no matter what side you argue for), you can't just say. "Well that's stupid". It's the reason why humans have brains, it's so we can reason our thoughts and beliefs, not just make assertions.
theatrefreak2010 2 years ago
I thought it should've been obvious to those reading anyway - and quite frankly, if you look at my first comment properly (and by that, I don't mean "read a few words and replace the rest with a strawman"), it was.
In case you still don't get it, I wasn't particularly arguing "for or against religion" - I arged against a video making a vain and stupid point against religion.
No matter what "side" you're on, faulty logic and sheer stupidity can be found on both.
twooffour 2 years ago
He goes on to say that even if hell is real then there must be a source of oxygen (I.E. escape) or a source of electricity (I.E. entertainment probably at this point.)
Plus the fact that religions are founded on "belief in supernatural magic" is almost profoundly stupid.
Zephanus 2 years ago
Um, how exactly can a "fact" be "stupid"? Yes, all the resurrection of the dead, Jesus' miracles, God's direct power over the world, all of those fall into the loose category of "supernatural magic" (although Christians probably wouldn't call it "magic", for obvious reasons) - believers all believe in this stuff, so telling them that "but that would make it superstitious, don't you think" is like saying nothing at all... for 10 minutes.
twooffour 2 years ago
No, it's dumb. Magic has proven demonstrably to be either completely explainable natural phenomena, and are occasionally performed by people who are doing so in fraudulent ways.
Zephanus 2 years ago
So, you belive in magic? Well, god told you in the Bible to kill witches and stone wizards... so what you are trying to say is that you watch "Harry Potter" as a documentary?
Can I start laughing at you now or will you write something even more stupid?
Vejita12 2 years ago
Hey, good luck in your reading comprehension course - I was ridiculing believers, as well as the atheists making this stupid point.
Idiot.
twooffour 2 years ago
"how incredibly stupid the argumentation in this video is."
I was reffering to this post and if it was being ment as ridicule religion... man, you should start learning this language from the page on which "a, b, c.." is written.
Vejita12 2 years ago
felt those flames
and they sure did hurt
but healed me good though!!!
awesome vid friend,
and good brother!!!!!
backwoodsgps 2 years ago
"prophesing to be wise,they became fools"
yankee9o 2 years ago
Sounds like you look but dont see,,as I see as I look..
And all light is NOT the same!!!!
bulltexan1 2 years ago
go phill!
jxaxmxixn 2 years ago 2
Very good one. Not too specific, but for everybody`s level of understanding, especially for those who believe in Tooth Fairy, god, Santa Clause and others
MarcoDantes 2 years ago
nice
zack164 2 years ago
For the romanian subtitle you need to activate it from the captions menu
Dievate 2 years ago
This is obviously Richard Dawkins. Can you give me a source for this speech?
LacunaFurlong 2 years ago
Possibly 'Growing up in the Universe' lecture.
shon9514 2 years ago
I'll take that as a compliment. :)
philhellenes 2 years ago 2
It's not Richard Dawkins. Go to the top and click on the "This is a video response to ---" button. That's the original creator. They do sound remarkably similar though.
Zephanus 2 years ago
where is the romanian?
ductuswolffii 2 years ago