Could I fill one of these holes with a little bit of wet Armstrong's mixture(the stuff in plastic caps) to get a nice pop against a hard surface? I'd never shoot it at living things, just for weekend fun
at 3.15 I saw what i had imagined from the beginning, the hole is decentralized. If you spin the bullet, preferably without the cartridge case, it is better,is right grumman581.
ammosmith- we gave you ( grumman581 and I), some advice from experts in the sector, then if you do not care to shoot in a precise way that's your business. The biggest problem of who is shooting is accuracy, but if you do not care why you want to shoot watermelons to 10 yards away it is clear that you do not care ... but interest to other persons know how things work.
@hornets599 This stuff made this method is last resort stuff or if you're in a pinch. I have swaging dies I can reshape FMJs to HP easy and precisely.
@blackpowderbill What you said! I think there is a general lack of understanding of gun laws. That's why even cops are confused about the laws. Evenso...legal or not...knowledge is power..how it's used is up to the mind that uses it.
By turning the drill bit with a stationary bullet, you are subject to having an off-center hole. If you turn the bullet while having a stationary drill bit, you would not have an off-center hole, only one that was larger.
Can this be done only with a lead bullet or any others?? Also if i don't have this machine can it be done with a power drill? I thought of this a long time go but wondering if even could be done on a loaded cartrige without blowing....Does this work well with a 12. gauge slug??
@vcqcfoda2 no, but if he aussault me or the people i like i would probably first use my fists then i would put a bullet in his leg, but it depends.....if he has an m16 or ak in his hands i think i would shoot first
@ziegler117 Yeah, if he can't spell something as simple as "cartridge" correctly, it's probably unlikely that he knows what he's talking about on ANY subject... Probably some WebTV weenie...
@Superlagg Illegal cartridge modifications. That's a term I have never heard before. Must live in California. If modifing a cartridge is going to be illegal, that's where it would be.
@Mrjoecreeper Say jacketed? Jacketed bullets are usually preformed with a hollow point and casting a HP is time consuming. This way you can make the HP as deep (within reason) or as shallow as you wish.
@ammosmith whats the name od that vid u did showing u doing this with a fmj i didnt see it an im looken at staring to do this whats the best brand or name of a bit o use to get into a fjm so it dosednt heat of or u try to hard ?
Love the video, will have to check out and see if I can do this on my Wilson case trimmer. I hope so, got me some 12 BHN 38's I'd like to do this to as well as some 44 Mags. 44 mags probably won't expand at 18 BHN, but perhaps they will fragment. Velocity is around 1500fps.
When you say not to drill more than 2/3 the length of the projectile, are you refering to the part that sticks out of the case? or are you including the full length of the bullet (past the gas check etc)
WOW your an idiot dude. why dont you just BUY the CORRECT bullet in the first place?!?. I have watched 4 of your videos and they were pretty good. but this one proves that your totally retarded!
@jgazdik1988 Redding makes a tool that works just like this one does. I have been making ammunition for 30 years. I know what I am doing. No need to be rude.
@ammosmith (from Hornady.com) "The tip raises the ballistic coefficient for faster velocity and helps to stabilize the bullet in flight." so much for 30 years of experience... maybe you should research more before you try to make videos. products are only made because people are stupid enough to buy them... and your stupid enough to make your own!
@jgazdik1988 it's basically: «"the spoiler helps create a downforce and increase grip, making the car faster and more responsive", so your semi-truck without a single spoiler is shit... so much for 30 years of truckbuilding expirience... maybe you should research more before making videos... Anyways, you're an idiot, you can just BUY trucks, why make 'em?»
@ayebraine I wonder if he saw my video on making primers? I love the art of bullet making. I can make bullets do things that factories can't due to cost. Sometimes you only need a dozen or so for hunting. This video here is a way to make more of what you got. I like the truck anaolgy.
@jgazdik1988 nice 2 quote other peoples data when u are tryn 2 discredit some 1 elses . do your own research n post it n there mite be some weight 2 what u are sayn, but im tipn that aint ginna happen
@jgazdik1988 - Based upon your comments you seem rather knowledgeable. Maybe you should post some videos and educate us, as you seem to be an expert at the ripe old age of 22. I've always been curious about something and I'm sure you have the answer. Is ignorance really blissful like they say? ;-)
@duhkid2009 The base of the bullet is far more critical than the nose. The bullet gets it's gyroscopic stability from the base. I've shot these and they do fine. Just don't drill them more than 2/3 the length of the bullet.
personaly i would not have put a live round on the machine. but hey u do what u have to do.. does the bullet mushroom back like a factory hollopoint or does it fragment ?
@1badpenny additionally if you'd like to tender an argument then argue that the bullet may not expand like a hollow point that would be a far more interesting discussion. I would like to know who you report to at Hodgdon, I would be happy to give them a call and discuss any issues Hodgdon may have with our video.
@1badpenny Bullet weight isn't the only factor when estimating charges for a particular bullet. Bullet design, bullet material, bullet nose type etc are all considerations. As with any load development it is suggested you reduce your load by 7-10% and work your way up to find a safe load for your gun. Removing material from the nose of the bullet does not create an unsafe condition in my opinion as long as the standard reloading safety methods are adhered too.
@1badpenny I highly doubt you work for Hodgdon. Hodgdon is one of our sponsors though Wolfe Publishing company and they review all our videos along with Redding Reloading.
You got to be just short of a moron to do this. All powder charges are figured by
the weight. When you drill a hole in the bullet you are changing the weight. Lighter
bullets take more powder than a heavy bullet. Now your taking the chance of excessive chamber pressure. Thats a real smart move moron. Not to mention your hole is off center. That bullet will be flying all over the place. What
are you going to do when somebody gets hurt form your practice and sues you.
@1badpenny Wrong! Lighter weight will reduce pressure. It's not just weight that causes pressure but bearing surface as well. RCBS makes a dedicated hollow pointing tool that does this exact thing. I have had no I'll effects on any weapon I've tried this with. The only limitation is how deep you make the hollow point. This is explained in the video.
there is a grave error that will mark a lack of precision, which is that the drill hole is not centered properly and that causes an imbalance that harms the trajectory of the shot and the precision with, we must correct the lathe and the tool must be focused, if not a very unreliable, we expect a new video with drilling focused,
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Questions: First, why? Last I checked, good modern defensive ammo wasn't prohibitively expensive.
Second: That deep cavity, aren't you worried about that over-expanding and causing fragmentation or under-penetration?
Third: That hole looks considerably off-center. Concentricity is at least as important to accuracy as consistency is. Isn't that off-balance bullet going to suffer some accuracy issues when spun a few thousand RPM?
@immikeurnot Why? Most hollow point molds are a pain to use. This is a quick and cheap way to modify a cast bullet. You can make the cavity as deep or as shallow as you want. Accuracy is fine and with a handgun you're looking at 25 yards.
I took a small block of metal drilled a hole the size of the case i was loading(9mm luger) just long enough to go over the bras. Then center drilled the 9/64 all the way out the other side. I place the block over the case and it holds the drill bit dead center when I drill them out.
I took a small block of metal drilled a hole the size of the case i was loading(9mm luger) just long enough to go over the bras. Then center drilled the 9/64 all the way out the other side. I place the block over the case and it holds the drill bit dead center when I drill them out.
or....you could spend a few extra dollars and get real hollow points that are field proven. I dont think its safe doing this, but I do like to tinker with my guns. experimenting with difrent spings, slide release, and firing pin, but I wouldnt modify my ammo though.
I tried many depths and found the best depth is 11/16 the length of the bullet for lead handgun rounds, BUT DO NOT GO BEYOND 25/32 IN A LEAD ROUND OR THE BULLET WILL EXPLODE IN THE BARREL OF THE GUN. Now I'm paying 650 dollars for a new 9mm barrel.
The ballistic shape has not changed but it has slightly less weight. The hollow point fills with liquid and liquids can't be compressed so the bullet expands. This then changes the shape of the bullet upon impact resulting in greater hydrostatic shock and more energy transfer. It works like any other hollow point.
@immikeurnot well thats why i asked him if 9/16 drill bit for all calibers or a particular one wasnt sure and didnt want to take to much off or drill to big and to deep
It gives you flexibility in an otherwise over the counter bullet. Hollow point molds are tricky at times to use and are more expensive than a standard mold . Also you can make the cavity as deep or as shallow as you want. It also works for hunting ammunition.
the glue sounds interesting. It might help to fill the void with hot glue to use as a pusher during expansion instead of hoping for a hydraulic or mass seal... much like the pow'r ball by corbon uses a polymer ball to aid expansion (and feeding)
That is not a stupid question...it's a great question! No. The reason is there's a chance that the core can be pushed out of the jacket and leave the jacket stuck in the barrel that will cause the gun to unravel on the next round.
You can't drill FMJ bullets.The jacket can get stuck while the core is spit out and cause a obstruction in the barrel. The Speer TMJ you can since the whole lead core is encapsulated.
Are you saying that when the drilled fmj bullet is fired, the jacket will lodge in the barrel and the lead bullet core will keep going? How can that be true? If so 1/2 jacketed bullets would do this, but they don't. What am I missing here? Have you seen this happen or is this speculation?
This does happen but it happens more with rifle bullets such as .223 or .308 and we're saying not to do it with any FMJ to be safe. I haven't seen it in a pistol bullet because they operate at lower pressures than rifle ammunition. 29,000 psi compared to 62,000psi.
Also a FMJ in most cases have a exposed lead base. A half jacket has a closed base. This is where problems can arise. The lead is soft and the jacket can stick in the bore and the lead shot out leaving the jacket. This is often seen on combat zones where troops use a file to expose the lead of generally a M80 Ball round for a m240G or an M60 or any number of sniper rifles using a FMJ type of bullet. The make the exposed lead area too large and then this problem shows up.
Yes. However in a handgun the range is so short that it won't make a difference. In a rifle yes you need to take the weight change into account. More on that later in another video.
I had a similar question, only it relates to the powder charge you should be using once you do this.
Since you're altering the weight of the projectiles, will it be necessary to adjust the powder charge to compensate for the weight reduction of the projectile?
I've seen some old air marshall rounds like this, and the hollow was filled with a polymer of some sorts. Supposedly to insure the round to stop once impacted.
Wonderful job James....The vids were always good but they are getting better. Nice camera work, good subject matter, good music and audio. Clear and concise speaking and straight to the point.
Hopefully, I will push the envelope on my videos soon...Just need to update my equipment.
I'm going to into this in more detail later. I have to be careful. We are now working on a DVD project and we want to make sure that we don't try to sell what we post on YouTube. Not that it really matters but I want to make those who buy the DVD not ever have buyers remorse.
Could I fill one of these holes with a little bit of wet Armstrong's mixture(the stuff in plastic caps) to get a nice pop against a hard surface? I'd never shoot it at living things, just for weekend fun
halopartyboy 1 day ago
@halopartyboy I wouldn't.
ammosmith 14 hours ago
at 3.15 I saw what i had imagined from the beginning, the hole is decentralized. If you spin the bullet, preferably without the cartridge case, it is better,is right grumman581.
hornets599 4 weeks ago
@hornets599 At 25 yards they shoot fine. The base of the bullet is where it gets it's stability from.
ammosmith 4 weeks ago
ammosmith- we gave you ( grumman581 and I), some advice from experts in the sector, then if you do not care to shoot in a precise way that's your business. The biggest problem of who is shooting is accuracy, but if you do not care why you want to shoot watermelons to 10 yards away it is clear that you do not care ... but interest to other persons know how things work.
hornets599 4 weeks ago
@hornets599 This stuff made this method is last resort stuff or if you're in a pinch. I have swaging dies I can reshape FMJs to HP easy and precisely.
ammosmith 4 weeks ago
works perfect with my .357 SIG FMJs
theroyalgrapefruit 1 month ago
WTH, if you cast and load your own ammunition how can it be illegal to make it a hollow point! Get a grip!
blackpowderbill 1 month ago 3
@blackpowderbill What you said! I think there is a general lack of understanding of gun laws. That's why even cops are confused about the laws. Evenso...legal or not...knowledge is power..how it's used is up to the mind that uses it.
ammosmith 1 month ago 3
@ammosmith this is a brilliant video, would it be worth doing this to my 5.56 mm rounds?
MrGarrett1911 1 week ago
@MrGarrett1911 No...especially the M855 with the steel penetrator.
ammosmith 1 week ago
@blackpowderbill o well i didnt know that
iamshootful 1 month ago
By turning the drill bit with a stationary bullet, you are subject to having an off-center hole. If you turn the bullet while having a stationary drill bit, you would not have an off-center hole, only one that was larger.
grumman581 2 months ago
@slyrader1 shutup
camosuperman 2 months ago
Can this be done only with a lead bullet or any others?? Also if i don't have this machine can it be done with a power drill? I thought of this a long time go but wondering if even could be done on a loaded cartrige without blowing....Does this work well with a 12. gauge slug??
Thanks for the information..
mrez1991 2 months ago
as long you dont shoot people i like this ammo
TheBlabla1996 3 months ago
@TheBlabla1996 whats wrong about shooting people? if someone jump inside your house u´r not gonna shoot the guy?
vcqcfoda2 3 months ago
@vcqcfoda2 no, but if he aussault me or the people i like i would probably first use my fists then i would put a bullet in his leg, but it depends.....if he has an m16 or ak in his hands i think i would shoot first
TheBlabla1996 3 months ago
That elevator music makes me want to go deep. So do your impeccable fingernails.
W857TYWH408576NW0348 3 months ago
have you got a video which compares the normal round vs your HP round shot at, say a jug of water?
111dogon555 4 months ago
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Say hello to bubba when you get to jail for illegal carterage modifications.
Superlagg 4 months ago
@Superlagg No such law exists where I live.
ammosmith 4 months ago 10
@Superlagg you have no idea what you are talking about. Nothing he did was illegal. No laws like that exist anywhere in the USA.
*And it's CARTRIDGE*
ziegler117 4 months ago 2
@ziegler117 Yeah, if he can't spell something as simple as "cartridge" correctly, it's probably unlikely that he knows what he's talking about on ANY subject... Probably some WebTV weenie...
grumman581 2 months ago
@Superlagg there are laws for that in the geneva convention, but these dont apply to civilians
TheGuyWithAWeirdName 4 months ago
@Superlagg yea, not illegal, lemme guess, you live in europe somewhere
DAltar 2 months ago
@Superlagg Illegal cartridge modifications. That's a term I have never heard before. Must live in California. If modifing a cartridge is going to be illegal, that's where it would be.
nbadhorse 2 months ago
@nbadhorse There is no such law. I am howver working on a project using Canadian pennies to make rifle jackets.
ammosmith 2 months ago
@ammosmith that would most certainly be illegal in canada ^.^
Mirind0R 1 month ago
ammosmith Have you ever tried that on FMJ rnds? I was thinking about trying that on some .40 s&w.
zfunishere1 5 months ago
I bet u get lots of flyers ? A off centered hollowpoint is not gooder. Du hu !
Lvduggo69 5 months ago
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koteshub 5 months ago
I wanna try this on my round lead .38 spl I can´t buy HP in here ( are ilegal )...
kingcoapa 6 months ago
sweet now lets go hunt sum red necks
slyrader1 7 months ago
Diggin the smooth jaz in the background.
otakumask 8 months ago 2
where did you get your case trimmer?????
TrifeThaDon 8 months ago
I take it this is for exposed lead bullets (cast) only?
stone4bread 9 months ago
@stone4bread Yes and no. I use it for cast bullets but you can use it for a jacketed soft point or to modify an existing JHP.
ammosmith 9 months ago
@ammosmith Whats the difference between this and a regular bullet
Mrjoecreeper 8 months ago
@Mrjoecreeper Say jacketed? Jacketed bullets are usually preformed with a hollow point and casting a HP is time consuming. This way you can make the HP as deep (within reason) or as shallow as you wish.
ammosmith 8 months ago
@ammosmith Thanks for the quick reply and oh
Mrjoecreeper 8 months ago
@Mrjoecreeper I just finished a tutorial on making jacketed hollow points...and it should be uploaded in a few hours...it's rendering now.
ammosmith 8 months ago
@ammosmith whats the name od that vid u did showing u doing this with a fmj i didnt see it an im looken at staring to do this whats the best brand or name of a bit o use to get into a fjm so it dosednt heat of or u try to hard ?
curtispa 8 months ago
@curtispa IK didn't do a FMJ because the risk of a core being pushed out of the jacket.
ammosmith 8 months ago
@ammosmith what the name of the video u made maken jhp
curtispa 8 months ago
Ammosmith. I for one have enjoyed every video of yours that I have watched. I guess that makes me a retarded idiot as well! Great job and keep it up!
CutthroatCustoms 10 months ago
Love the video, will have to check out and see if I can do this on my Wilson case trimmer. I hope so, got me some 12 BHN 38's I'd like to do this to as well as some 44 Mags. 44 mags probably won't expand at 18 BHN, but perhaps they will fragment. Velocity is around 1500fps.
ssyoumans 11 months ago
When you say not to drill more than 2/3 the length of the projectile, are you refering to the part that sticks out of the case? or are you including the full length of the bullet (past the gas check etc)
Ziedin100 11 months ago
@Ziedin100 Length of the projectile.
ammosmith 11 months ago
Don't listen to him ammosmith ur videos are awesome
spritrocks 11 months ago
WOW your an idiot dude. why dont you just BUY the CORRECT bullet in the first place?!?. I have watched 4 of your videos and they were pretty good. but this one proves that your totally retarded!
jgazdik1988 1 year ago
@jgazdik1988 Redding makes a tool that works just like this one does. I have been making ammunition for 30 years. I know what I am doing. No need to be rude.
ammosmith 1 year ago 9
@ammosmith (from Hornady.com) "The tip raises the ballistic coefficient for faster velocity and helps to stabilize the bullet in flight." so much for 30 years of experience... maybe you should research more before you try to make videos. products are only made because people are stupid enough to buy them... and your stupid enough to make your own!
jgazdik1988 11 months ago
@jgazdik1988 it's basically: «"the spoiler helps create a downforce and increase grip, making the car faster and more responsive", so your semi-truck without a single spoiler is shit... so much for 30 years of truckbuilding expirience... maybe you should research more before making videos... Anyways, you're an idiot, you can just BUY trucks, why make 'em?»
ayebraine 10 months ago
@ayebraine I wonder if he saw my video on making primers? I love the art of bullet making. I can make bullets do things that factories can't due to cost. Sometimes you only need a dozen or so for hunting. This video here is a way to make more of what you got. I like the truck anaolgy.
ammosmith 10 months ago
@jgazdik1988 nice 2 quote other peoples data when u are tryn 2 discredit some 1 elses . do your own research n post it n there mite be some weight 2 what u are sayn, but im tipn that aint ginna happen
frasatat2 8 months ago
@jgazdik1988 - Based upon your comments you seem rather knowledgeable. Maybe you should post some videos and educate us, as you seem to be an expert at the ripe old age of 22. I've always been curious about something and I'm sure you have the answer. Is ignorance really blissful like they say? ;-)
CutthroatCustoms 10 months ago
Ok but also I notice that one of the holes drilled in the bullet wS not completely centered can that effect the trajectory and accuracy of he round
duhkid2009 1 year ago
@duhkid2009 The base of the bullet is far more critical than the nose. The bullet gets it's gyroscopic stability from the base. I've shot these and they do fine. Just don't drill them more than 2/3 the length of the bullet.
ammosmith 1 year ago
personaly i would not have put a live round on the machine. but hey u do what u have to do.. does the bullet mushroom back like a factory hollopoint or does it fragment ?
duhkid2009 1 year ago
@duhkid2009 The bullet being live is of no concern. The bullet will expand if a soft alloy is used or fragment if a harder alloy is used.
ammosmith 1 year ago
Moron see as moron do. It's a stupid practice done by irresponsible people. I can see safety is no concern of yours two fingers.
1badpenny 1 year ago
i jeast read the (all comments) and it seems that no one likes 1sadpenny
get it sad instead of bad hehehe
TheRJMortimer 1 year ago
@TheRJMortimer That's the consensus.
ammosmith 1 year ago
@1badpenny additionally if you'd like to tender an argument then argue that the bullet may not expand like a hollow point that would be a far more interesting discussion. I would like to know who you report to at Hodgdon, I would be happy to give them a call and discuss any issues Hodgdon may have with our video.
scottdnwi 1 year ago
@scottdnwi We are having lunch with Wolfe Publishing and Hodgdon at the SHOT Show so we can ask them about it as well. Gonna be a good trip.
ammosmith 1 year ago
@scottdnwi If you actually work for Hodgdon, I hope it's only in the janitorial department.
RollerCam 1 year ago
@1badpenny Bullet weight isn't the only factor when estimating charges for a particular bullet. Bullet design, bullet material, bullet nose type etc are all considerations. As with any load development it is suggested you reduce your load by 7-10% and work your way up to find a safe load for your gun. Removing material from the nose of the bullet does not create an unsafe condition in my opinion as long as the standard reloading safety methods are adhered too.
scottdnwi 1 year ago
You better dig out a reloading manual and look what causes a hang fire. I work for
Hodgdon I know what happen with powder. That is a irresponsible practice you
are doing. Take the time to read the warning in a reloading they are in there for a reason. Sooner or later your stupidity will catch up to you.
1badpenny 1 year ago
@1badpenny I highly doubt you work for Hodgdon. Hodgdon is one of our sponsors though Wolfe Publishing company and they review all our videos along with Redding Reloading.
ammosmith 1 year ago
@1badpenny
maybe you should stop commenting on this guys video
twice he has proved you wrong:P
TheRJMortimer 1 year ago
You got to be just short of a moron to do this. All powder charges are figured by
the weight. When you drill a hole in the bullet you are changing the weight. Lighter
bullets take more powder than a heavy bullet. Now your taking the chance of excessive chamber pressure. Thats a real smart move moron. Not to mention your hole is off center. That bullet will be flying all over the place. What
are you going to do when somebody gets hurt form your practice and sues you.
1badpenny 1 year ago
@1badpenny Wrong! Lighter weight will reduce pressure. It's not just weight that causes pressure but bearing surface as well. RCBS makes a dedicated hollow pointing tool that does this exact thing. I have had no I'll effects on any weapon I've tried this with. The only limitation is how deep you make the hollow point. This is explained in the video.
ammosmith 1 year ago
could you do this with a jaketed bullet
akdude182 1 year ago
@akdude182 yes you can
no you don't want to do that
at least don't do it like the video and use uncased bullets (unloaded)
you may use excessive pressure and ignite the charge
i strongly suggest against this practice
Goomness 1 year ago
@Goomness I strongly advise you to avoid any further comments regarding guns, gunpowder or bullets.
RollerCam 1 year ago
@RollerCam you lot can blow yourselves up for all i care
Goomness 1 year ago
@Goomness Oops!. My comments were meant for the idiot posting as "1badpenny."
RollerCam 1 year ago
I wish you could fire one and show us how well it expands! Would love to see the end result.
razmiko 1 year ago
there is a grave error that will mark a lack of precision, which is that the drill hole is not centered properly and that causes an imbalance that harms the trajectory of the shot and the precision with, we must correct the lathe and the tool must be focused, if not a very unreliable, we expect a new video with drilling focused,
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Arnthorg 1 year ago
if the projectile at the start is 124 grain how much does it weigh after drilling is there much differance? Good video thankyou for sharing
GT03235 1 year ago
@GT03235 It drops it to about 115grs.
ammosmith 1 year ago
@ammosmith Thanks thats good to know
GT03235 1 year ago
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do they still make lead only bullets? and if so what brand? and dont they make a mess inside the barrel?
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do they still make lead only bullets? and if so what brand? and dont they make a mess inside the barrel?
TheFuzzyFabian 1 year ago
do they still make lead only bullets? and if so what brand? and dont they make a mess inside the barrel?
TheFuzzyFabian 1 year ago
@TheFuzzyFabian They make as much of a mess inside the barrel as jacketed bullets, only in less time lol.
TheWitnesserer 1 year ago
Thanks for the good tip
BENLINUZ 1 year ago
Fill w/ pigs blood or shit..!!!
jkoroush 1 year ago
@jkoroush Great idea. make sure they go to hell!
ammosmith 1 year ago
What caliber is that?
EliteAmericans 1 year ago
you should make a water test
migkillertwo 1 year ago
Questions: First, why? Last I checked, good modern defensive ammo wasn't prohibitively expensive.
Second: That deep cavity, aren't you worried about that over-expanding and causing fragmentation or under-penetration?
Third: That hole looks considerably off-center. Concentricity is at least as important to accuracy as consistency is. Isn't that off-balance bullet going to suffer some accuracy issues when spun a few thousand RPM?
immikeurnot 1 year ago
@immikeurnot Why? Most hollow point molds are a pain to use. This is a quick and cheap way to modify a cast bullet. You can make the cavity as deep or as shallow as you want. Accuracy is fine and with a handgun you're looking at 25 yards.
ammosmith 1 year ago
@ammosmith how is Accuracy fine if you miss and hit a bystander?
lordmat666 1 year ago
I have some questions: only lyman trimmer can be used to make hp? And if is not what trimmer is the best for this job?
RazerTNT 1 year ago
@RazerTNT They all work but this is the trimmer I was using at the time.
ammosmith 1 year ago
where can i buy pure lead bullets with no jacket ?
iamaGod357 1 year ago
@iamaGod357 Yes. Hornady sells them and so does Speer.
ammosmith 1 year ago
I took a small block of metal drilled a hole the size of the case i was loading(9mm luger) just long enough to go over the bras. Then center drilled the 9/64 all the way out the other side. I place the block over the case and it holds the drill bit dead center when I drill them out.
tdm5691 1 year ago
I took a small block of metal drilled a hole the size of the case i was loading(9mm luger) just long enough to go over the bras. Then center drilled the 9/64 all the way out the other side. I place the block over the case and it holds the drill bit dead center when I drill them out.
tdm5691 1 year ago
Umm is it me or is your hole not in the center of the bullet? Wont this totally screw up the ballistics?????
lmcowles 1 year ago
Now go ahead and put some nitroglycerin in the bullet ...
aseglkj 1 year ago
or....you could spend a few extra dollars and get real hollow points that are field proven. I dont think its safe doing this, but I do like to tinker with my guns. experimenting with difrent spings, slide release, and firing pin, but I wouldnt modify my ammo though.
johnnyartillery 1 year ago
cant get the darn thing in the center.
StoppedHeart 2 years ago
It's tricky.
ammosmith 2 years ago
I tried many depths and found the best depth is 11/16 the length of the bullet for lead handgun rounds, BUT DO NOT GO BEYOND 25/32 IN A LEAD ROUND OR THE BULLET WILL EXPLODE IN THE BARREL OF THE GUN. Now I'm paying 650 dollars for a new 9mm barrel.
emitman85 2 years ago
@emitman85
what is the benefit to have a hole in bullet
hahahahh
strangerlover11 1 year ago
It expands to twice it's diameter when uit impacts.
ammosmith 1 year ago
I do not think it will give good impact because since the bullet out the gun its
not the same shape........so i don't think it
will give better impact......
strangerlover11 1 year ago
The ballistic shape has not changed but it has slightly less weight. The hollow point fills with liquid and liquids can't be compressed so the bullet expands. This then changes the shape of the bullet upon impact resulting in greater hydrostatic shock and more energy transfer. It works like any other hollow point.
ammosmith 1 year ago
@ammosmith hey i was wondering the 9/16 drill bit is that size for all calibers or just one particular caliber?
redmule02 1 year ago
@redmule02 All calibers
ammosmith 1 year ago
@redmule02 9/16? That's over half an inch - bigger than anything you're going to drill it with... Should be a 9/32 maybe?
immikeurnot 1 year ago
@immikeurnot well thats why i asked him if 9/16 drill bit for all calibers or a particular one wasnt sure and didnt want to take to much off or drill to big and to deep
redmule02 1 year ago
@strangerlover11
Putting a BIGGER hole in the person.
emitman85 1 year ago
you means Bigger hole in Ass..hahhaha
strangerlover11 1 year ago
such a good vid
colwyn25 2 years ago
: )
ECTBWHO 2 years ago
What is the benit to do that......
strangerlover11 2 years ago
It gives you flexibility in an otherwise over the counter bullet. Hollow point molds are tricky at times to use and are more expensive than a standard mold . Also you can make the cavity as deep or as shallow as you want. It also works for hunting ammunition.
ammosmith 2 years ago
experimentation, data gathering, performance maximization, cost savings, the list goes on.....
sonick808 1 year ago
why so deep? are you worried at all about blow thru of gases going that deep? or have you experienced any failures?
also, have you toyed with a filler to help with ballistics? (ex. a glue, or epoxy of some sort)
whats your opinion of doing this on factory load FMJ's?
sorry for all the questions at once.
you can message me with a response if you prefered.
lukystryk 2 years ago
ok no need to respond to the FMJ question again.
lukystryk 2 years ago
If your worried about ballistics on a pistol caliber, you shouldn't have a pistol to begin with.
drbackjack 2 years ago
the glue sounds interesting. It might help to fill the void with hot glue to use as a pusher during expansion instead of hoping for a hydraulic or mass seal... much like the pow'r ball by corbon uses a polymer ball to aid expansion (and feeding)
sonick808 1 year ago
maybe you should wear gloves
migkillertwo 2 years ago
why
camerl2009 2 years ago
so he doesn't cut himself with those lead shavings
migkillertwo 2 years ago
lead is to soft it wont cut you
camerl2009 2 years ago
i did this with a .22-250 FMJ and lets say that that coyote did not have a chance
camerl2009 2 years ago
i did some thing like this with my .50 cal
bullets for my muzzleloader but i used a drill press i dont know whst case will hold
it but fun thing i did was i use a .22 blank
and put it in the hole with super glue
camerl2009 2 years ago
How did that work? Sounds dangerous.
ammosmith 2 years ago
yes it did i used a small charge to test it and wen it hit it exploded i used 30gr of
fffg
camerl2009 2 years ago
dont do this i did for newyears and a chunk of lead hit me
camerl2009 2 years ago
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camerl2009 2 years ago
No..that is a myth. It will imballance the bullet and cause irratic accuracy.
ammosmith 2 years ago
now all you have to do is put a steel pin in it and youll have armmer pircing rounds
1hunterdale 2 years ago
Sorry if this is a stupid question but can I do this with a winchester white box fmj 9mm??
clubtc05 2 years ago
That is not a stupid question...it's a great question! No. The reason is there's a chance that the core can be pushed out of the jacket and leave the jacket stuck in the barrel that will cause the gun to unravel on the next round.
ammosmith 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply! dang that sucks because I really wanted to make my own hollow points but I guess I have to wait till I do reloads
clubtc05 2 years ago
You can take an existing hollow point and make it nastier.
ammosmith 2 years ago
that makes no sense, why would wwb be any different?
FuckBuzh 2 years ago
I don't understand what you mean.
ammosmith 2 years ago
u said he couldn't drill Winchester white box wwb ammo? why not?
FuckBuzh 2 years ago
You can't drill FMJ bullets.The jacket can get stuck while the core is spit out and cause a obstruction in the barrel. The Speer TMJ you can since the whole lead core is encapsulated.
ammosmith 2 years ago
Are you saying that when the drilled fmj bullet is fired, the jacket will lodge in the barrel and the lead bullet core will keep going? How can that be true? If so 1/2 jacketed bullets would do this, but they don't. What am I missing here? Have you seen this happen or is this speculation?
FuckBuzh 2 years ago
This does happen but it happens more with rifle bullets such as .223 or .308 and we're saying not to do it with any FMJ to be safe. I haven't seen it in a pistol bullet because they operate at lower pressures than rifle ammunition. 29,000 psi compared to 62,000psi.
ammosmith 2 years ago
Also a FMJ in most cases have a exposed lead base. A half jacket has a closed base. This is where problems can arise. The lead is soft and the jacket can stick in the bore and the lead shot out leaving the jacket. This is often seen on combat zones where troops use a file to expose the lead of generally a M80 Ball round for a m240G or an M60 or any number of sniper rifles using a FMJ type of bullet. The make the exposed lead area too large and then this problem shows up.
ammosmith 2 years ago
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worldwide390 2 years ago
Wouldn't doing this lighten the bullet and therefore change its ballistics slightly?
Oldf0x 2 years ago
Yes. However in a handgun the range is so short that it won't make a difference. In a rifle yes you need to take the weight change into account. More on that later in another video.
ammosmith 2 years ago
I had a similar question, only it relates to the powder charge you should be using once you do this.
Since you're altering the weight of the projectiles, will it be necessary to adjust the powder charge to compensate for the weight reduction of the projectile?
cedaytonarydr 2 years ago
No...this ammunition is already loaded. It doesn't take that much out of it anyway.
ammosmith 2 years ago
great video. I'd like to see some after shots as well.
bno762 2 years ago
It's on the agenda...
ammosmith 2 years ago
Nice!
I've seen some old air marshall rounds like this, and the hollow was filled with a polymer of some sorts. Supposedly to insure the round to stop once impacted.
zagenzee 2 years ago
great idea u have!!
miiigoreng 2 years ago
can u do this with 40sw fmj or do they have to be lead tips ?
curtispa 2 years ago
This is for cast bullets. I haven't tried a FMJ yet.
ammosmith 2 years ago
could you post a pic of the bullet after being 'used'..=)?
robin6512 2 years ago
Interesting and good film ammosmith.
By removing the large amount of lead as shown, will this not alter the ballistics of the projectile?
Might it now travel too fast and cause the projectile to strip in the rifling?
I know pistols are for short range but I just have a concern for safety and accuracy of the round.
Steve
UK
mrspenn1611 2 years ago
Wonderful job James....The vids were always good but they are getting better. Nice camera work, good subject matter, good music and audio. Clear and concise speaking and straight to the point.
Hopefully, I will push the envelope on my videos soon...Just need to update my equipment.
Talk to you soon James....Take care.
Iraqveteran8888 2 years ago
Thanks Eric!
ammosmith 2 years ago
lol
camerl2009 2 years ago
great idea, but please wear a mask and wash your hands afterwareds. Beware of lead poisoning
adolfhilter 2 years ago
cool im gona have to try this with my webley .455
rollerpodger 2 years ago
I'd like to see that! :)
Iraqveteran8888 2 years ago
very cool
67mustangreg 2 years ago
I'm going to into this in more detail later. I have to be careful. We are now working on a DVD project and we want to make sure that we don't try to sell what we post on YouTube. Not that it really matters but I want to make those who buy the DVD not ever have buyers remorse.
ammosmith 2 years ago