I have been changing two prong outlets to three prong outlits. I have pulled the breaks. I do not feel Home Depot has given me enough information. I am still wondering about doing this without a ground wire. Is it safe, is there something I am missing here? Also, I am wondering about amps. I have purchased 15 amps. Any suggestions, help would be appreciated by this first timer.
@Kashmir2000is First of all NEVER put in grounded 3 hole outlets without hooking up the ground, it is not safe.
If you only have 2 wire house wiring or K&T you need to replace it with 12/2 with bare ground wire, I would use 12 ga. wire on all outlets even if they are fused for 15 amp.
You may have to have your house re-wired.
They used to sell the old style 2 hole ungrounded outlets, I doubt you could use them anymore.
@old64goat Ok, I am glad I asked, and greatful that you answered. The ones that I have replaced, I will take them out first thing tomorrow. I think, for me, it would be best that I call on an electrician. I think I'll sleep better. :) Again, thanks.
@old64goat So, a neighbor came over today to check out my progress with this house. I told himabout the outlets. He showed me a rod in the backyard near the breaker, the rod is in the ground. He said this is for the entire house, that it is safe putting the three prong outlets in. Does he know what he is talking about, or should I make that call to the electrician?
@Kashmir2000is That ground rod is for the circuit panal and every house service has one.
You need to have the outlets grounded back to the breaker box, the box is grounded to the stake outside, but your outlets need to have a ground on them BACK to the circuit panal.
That meand REWIRING youir house with 12/2 with ground.
@old64goat I knew you were going to come back and tell me this. Ok, that is what I will do. Please know that I do appreciate your time, and sharing your knowledge. Thank you.
There is something that keeps bugging me. In some cases, the neutral bar is either gounded or the neutral wires and the gound wires connected to the same bar. As such, both the neutrals and ground are connected. But I keep hearing that its a no no to connect a gound wire to a neutral at the outles (fake grounding is illegal) but If they will both, the gound and the neutral, connect together at the bar, why is it so bad for them to connect before they both get to the panel?
@zer0dahero NEC calls for neutral bonding to earth ground at the service entrance panel only. Any sub-fed panels require a separate neutral and ground bar. There will be a 4 conductor cable between the entrance panel and the sub fed panel. Red and Black for live conductors, white for neutral and a bare conductor for ground. In the sub fed panel, the live conductors for the loads go to the breakers, the white conductors go to the neutral bar and the bare conductors go to the ground.
@old64goat So in a sub panel, ground and neutral are never touching. I looked in the panel in my house (there's another outside.) All the white wires and bare wires are hooked up in a mixed manner to the bars on either side of the breakers and those bars are connected together with a metal bar. There is one thick steel wire from one of those bars going up with the two black feed wires and another think steel wire going down out of sight. is that wrong? The inspector said it all looked good.
QUOTE from an expert "The ground must be clean (no current) to be effective to provide a path of least resistance to protect you from errant currents. In a sub panel the neutral carries current from any unbalanced loads. If you connect the neutral and the ground you have current on the ground, thus not a very good grounded system."
If the inspector told you it is okay, well maybe it is in your state, I don't know.
@old64goat As you can imagine, safety is my main concern. I hope that the inspector didn't make a mistake, he was exeptionally good at catching every little detail on everything else in the house. The way this house is wired is not a very good grounded system. I guess I should put money away to have a contractor re-wire the whole place but if its only a matter of it not being a good system vs being a deadly system, I guess the re-wire can wait. Thank you for your time.
@old64goat Thank you for your input. I keep seeing videos and post stating that grounds and neutrals connecting is a no no and people freak out about it. Seems that if its ok in some states' code, its not the panic situations all those people make it out to be. Maybe its characterized that way in trade school, or inspector's exam, where they may over exaggerate this as if everyone in the house will be instantly killed or something. I looked in a panel down the street and its the same as mine.
You're video was so detail. I hope you can show me how to install 110v circuit or electrical wiring using the 220v on your panel. what wires and amps should I use to convert the low voltage outlet. We use fuses in our country but I like to change that to circuit breaker if possible. thanks for your time.
@skydalim09 Hi, Thanks for watching my video but as I mentioned in my video discription:
"I am not telling you how to wire your house, leave that to a licensed electrician."
You will have to check with someone who is licenced to do this, there are licenced electricans here on Youtube, do a search on YT search box for "how to wire a circuit panel"
I know how to do it but if something goes wrong, i don't want to be held liable.
Please some one advice me: I am having two electronic ballast tubelights that are controlled by one switch. Now, one of them is always getting short circuit. I have replaced 4 of these within one year, none of them lasting more than a month - cause I dont even go to that room regularly. What is the problem? Everything works well for 10-15 days and then it gets short. The wiring is perfect... Is it because of the 2-way system? I'd love to have some help from any of you experts..Thank you !
@old64goat Thanx a lot for the advice !!! You're right. They simply dont work for so long. However, one of the tubelights has never caused problem. It has been working just fine for an year now. The other one just gets short, without any visible reason. Probably, its due to company or I have a feeling because 2 electronic ballasts cannot take the load in a single switch. What do you think?
@RAHULVPV All a switch does is open and close a circuit, it alone will not cause a problem, but if the switch is on a "dimmer" yes floresent light don't like dimmers.
They use cheap components in them, they can be knocked out by a surge in in line, or just crap out for no reason except it is poor quality.
It's just a normal switch. No dimmer. But yes, I think its a brand problem.Also, the connections have been made by cutting and joining loose wires and ceiling the ends with a tape...rough job.Probs, they get short due to the poor work. Ill look into it. Thanks a lot for taking so much time out to reply. God bless :-)
like he said he may not draw good but hes totaly right. good vid man , i know electric and just decided to watch a basic wire vid to see whats out here. nice job just should just simplify it, to theres 2 wires , if theres 3 the "naked" one gos to the green or the box lol
@lorancamusic It is at ground potental, grounded to the service panel and earth ground.
It does not have to be insulated, as long as that bare wire is not touching the black (hot) wire screw on the outlet when you install the outlet back into the box all is well.
Hey, Thanks for the video. This was a very good explanation and it helpped me replace the Duplex outlet on my furnace. My humidifier was on top powered by the blower and the bottom outlet was powered 24/7. Next Im going to wire in a switch so I dont have to keep using the breaker. Thanks Again!
An electrician wired our church. He put a bunch of plugs in the kitchen with the bars broken out with 3 wire (blk, red, wh & gr ) running from a double 15 amp. breaker so that if one plug trips, they both trip. No problem with that but this bozo had the bathroom, music organ, pulpit sound system and refrigerator combined with the kitchen dishwasher on the other half wired the same way. Scary.
@old64goat This was done before I became a trustee so I just fix the problems as I don't want hurt anyone's feelings who might have been in charge at the time.
@old64goat I agree. That is not safe at all. The bathroom, organ, sound, and refrigerator shouldn't be together. Each thing should be on its own breaker.
Great video! I would add that if you do not have any past electrical experience, let an electrician inspect your work. What I do is wire everything to the panel and let the electrician connect it there. I know it's seems foolish to pay $100 for hooking up a few wires but you are buying that proof that your house was wired properly.
@old64goat I used to work in a hardware store and it always amazed me how people could mess up so badly when electricity is involved. One guy with no experience was trying to wire his clothes dryer. He said " I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I hooked the black to one side and green to the other and the whole house shuts off !?" I told him he should stick to plumbing that way he'd only get wet when he did something wrong.
Years ago,when I first started doing electrical work, the part of the Beverly Hillbillies song where he sings, "Black gold..Texas tea" got in my head to remember how to wire 110 outlets. Black wire to gold screw. heh..I fool around with antique radios myself. I just recapped a '49 Silvertone Model 9000 AA5, but I think the 35Z5 rectifier tube is bad as none of the other tubes are lighting up. I sure need a tube tester!
I can't find an answer to this. The neutral (groundED) wire is bonded to the groundING wire at the enclosure box. Current is constantly alternating direction in AC power. To an electrical load, the power seems to be coming from the "hot" wire, then from the "neutral" wire and back to "hot" again - correct? If the neutral wire is carrying current - why isn't current constantly passing from the neutral to the ground wire and into the earth? I've looked all over and can't find an answer to this.
Hi garcias911, You mean using a wire with a 20 amp plug on it and than adding 6 outlets to it like an extention cord?
If so no no it is not okay.
If you mean having 6 outlets daisy chained and connected to a 20 amp breaker, as long as each of those outlets are rated for 20 amps and you are using 12 ga. wire, that should be okay.
As LONG as the TOTAL current draw is no more than 20 amps for ALL the outlets.
yes i want 6 outlets daisy chained and connected to a 20 amp breaker, as long as each of those outlets are rated for 20 amps and you are using 12 ga. wire, that should be okay.
As LONG as the TOTAL current draw is no more than 20 amps for ALL the outlets.
@old64goat actually, the NEC states that the total load for the 20A circuit cannot exceed 80% of the rating for the circuit breaker. In the case of a 20A circuit wired with #12 conductors, that means no more than 16A of cord-and-plug connected equipment per NEC 210-23(a). So, a 15A circuit, wired with #14 conductors should carry no more than a 12A load.
Awesome man; thank you SOOOOOO much; I was trying not to hire an electrician, and you just made that possible. I will be very careful A+++ You should get a workshop bro, that was an awesome job.
Dear Bill, consider this one of the few sincere comments I have made on You Tube. I just wanted to let you know I went out and bought a standard outlet the other day so as not to kill myself. Just wanted to say I have everything seemingly working well. Immense thanks again!
Very well done video. Very informative. I have 20-amp circuits in my house with outlets that don't have the T-prong hole (70's era). Are those fairly recent? I wired my barn with 20 amp and I did use the 20 amp outlets with the T-prong hole.
You can break the tab on the outlets and wire them so 1 half is on a switch and the other half is unswitched. All the outlets in my parent's living room are wired that way.
I enjoyed the video very much. I have always enjoyed working with electricity. I was in school in Jacksonville Florida back in the late 1970's and I had a great electrical course teacher. It is all in the simplicity of teaching that makes the difference. I like the way you simplify your information. Keep up the good work. 5 stars! Rich (ncautoman57)
Thanks Rich, Many many years ago I knew an old guy who was somewhat eccentric but very smart, he knew tv''s radio and the theory of how they worked, he taught me in a way that I could grasp it.
I would see him in the coffee shop or restaurant, he was always reading a book.
I would sit buy him a coffee and talk tech.
I was able to ubderstand him when he explained things. So when I explain things here, I break it down like he did for me so it can be understood and stays with you.
Hi Bill, an electrician I am not,but I have replaced these outlets and circuit breakers,that is about the extent of my knowledge.When I was thirteen years old I was almost electrocuted so I do not mess with electricity.I can remeber the electric wire burning my hands and shaking me until I was unconscious,so now I'm afraid of electricity.Have a great weeknd my friend.5*****Jerry
I have been changing two prong outlets to three prong outlits. I have pulled the breaks. I do not feel Home Depot has given me enough information. I am still wondering about doing this without a ground wire. Is it safe, is there something I am missing here? Also, I am wondering about amps. I have purchased 15 amps. Any suggestions, help would be appreciated by this first timer.
Kashmir2000is 6 days ago
@Kashmir2000is First of all NEVER put in grounded 3 hole outlets without hooking up the ground, it is not safe.
If you only have 2 wire house wiring or K&T you need to replace it with 12/2 with bare ground wire, I would use 12 ga. wire on all outlets even if they are fused for 15 amp.
You may have to have your house re-wired.
They used to sell the old style 2 hole ungrounded outlets, I doubt you could use them anymore.
old64goat 5 days ago
@old64goat Ok, I am glad I asked, and greatful that you answered. The ones that I have replaced, I will take them out first thing tomorrow. I think, for me, it would be best that I call on an electrician. I think I'll sleep better. :) Again, thanks.
Kashmir2000is 4 days ago
@old64goat So, a neighbor came over today to check out my progress with this house. I told himabout the outlets. He showed me a rod in the backyard near the breaker, the rod is in the ground. He said this is for the entire house, that it is safe putting the three prong outlets in. Does he know what he is talking about, or should I make that call to the electrician?
Kashmir2000is 3 days ago
@Kashmir2000is That ground rod is for the circuit panal and every house service has one.
You need to have the outlets grounded back to the breaker box, the box is grounded to the stake outside, but your outlets need to have a ground on them BACK to the circuit panal.
That meand REWIRING youir house with 12/2 with ground.
Call an electrician.
old64goat 3 days ago
@old64goat I knew you were going to come back and tell me this. Ok, that is what I will do. Please know that I do appreciate your time, and sharing your knowledge. Thank you.
Kashmir2000is 3 days ago
...was good for us beginners...who need to get their start in the shallow end. Thanks
srgntnewkirk 1 week ago
just wanted to say thank you for the excellent video i am from england and just moved to the states and your video helped me so much
MyDmc23 2 weeks ago
@MyDmc23 Thanks, glad it was helpful.
old64goat 2 weeks ago
Thanks....dad
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MrSpeagle88 2 weeks ago
This is one of the most bad ass guy I have ever seen in my entire life
Marine4220 2 weeks ago
@Marine4220 Who ME a bad ass?.....HeHe I doubt it,...LOL.
Thanks for stopping by.
old64goat 2 weeks ago
awesome video, the best one I've seen so far, easily understandable, THANK YOU!
armedani 3 weeks ago
Great video problem solved!
imaximusa45 2 months ago
Thanks for the video!. I found exactly what I was looking for.
cjsgrun 2 months ago
You draw fine, thanks for the video. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. Hope you get your shop.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 2 months ago
@UCSDEngineerDoctor THANKS!, a very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you too.
old64goat 2 months ago
Excellent job thanks.
datmagoo007 4 months ago
thanks, informative, allways starts with the basics!
MrDorgaD 4 months ago
There is something that keeps bugging me. In some cases, the neutral bar is either gounded or the neutral wires and the gound wires connected to the same bar. As such, both the neutrals and ground are connected. But I keep hearing that its a no no to connect a gound wire to a neutral at the outles (fake grounding is illegal) but If they will both, the gound and the neutral, connect together at the bar, why is it so bad for them to connect before they both get to the panel?
zer0dahero 5 months ago
@zer0dahero NEC calls for neutral bonding to earth ground at the service entrance panel only. Any sub-fed panels require a separate neutral and ground bar. There will be a 4 conductor cable between the entrance panel and the sub fed panel. Red and Black for live conductors, white for neutral and a bare conductor for ground. In the sub fed panel, the live conductors for the loads go to the breakers, the white conductors go to the neutral bar and the bare conductors go to the ground.
old64goat 5 months ago
@old64goat So in a sub panel, ground and neutral are never touching. I looked in the panel in my house (there's another outside.) All the white wires and bare wires are hooked up in a mixed manner to the bars on either side of the breakers and those bars are connected together with a metal bar. There is one thick steel wire from one of those bars going up with the two black feed wires and another think steel wire going down out of sight. is that wrong? The inspector said it all looked good.
zer0dahero 5 months ago
@zer0dahero The one outside is a sub-panel.
QUOTE from an expert "The ground must be clean (no current) to be effective to provide a path of least resistance to protect you from errant currents. In a sub panel the neutral carries current from any unbalanced loads. If you connect the neutral and the ground you have current on the ground, thus not a very good grounded system."
If the inspector told you it is okay, well maybe it is in your state, I don't know.
old64goat 5 months ago
@old64goat As you can imagine, safety is my main concern. I hope that the inspector didn't make a mistake, he was exeptionally good at catching every little detail on everything else in the house. The way this house is wired is not a very good grounded system. I guess I should put money away to have a contractor re-wire the whole place but if its only a matter of it not being a good system vs being a deadly system, I guess the re-wire can wait. Thank you for your time.
zer0dahero 5 months ago
@zer0dahero I don't think it is a deadly system, some states may allow you to wire it that way.
The info I gave you came from some guys who know alot more about this than I do about electrical.
I would not do a rewire, who knows you may get a contractor who may do it wrong.
If you got the okay in writing from the inspector I would think it would be okay, any problems you have it in writing.
Hope this helps, that is the best I can do for you.
old64goat 5 months ago
@old64goat Thank you for your input. I keep seeing videos and post stating that grounds and neutrals connecting is a no no and people freak out about it. Seems that if its ok in some states' code, its not the panic situations all those people make it out to be. Maybe its characterized that way in trade school, or inspector's exam, where they may over exaggerate this as if everyone in the house will be instantly killed or something. I looked in a panel down the street and its the same as mine.
zer0dahero 5 months ago
Great information...you kept it like you said "Basic" I understood it all....thanks for the enlightment.
Colinmawdsley1 5 months ago
You're video was so detail. I hope you can show me how to install 110v circuit or electrical wiring using the 220v on your panel. what wires and amps should I use to convert the low voltage outlet. We use fuses in our country but I like to change that to circuit breaker if possible. thanks for your time.
skydalim09 5 months ago
@skydalim09 Hi, Thanks for watching my video but as I mentioned in my video discription:
"I am not telling you how to wire your house, leave that to a licensed electrician."
You will have to check with someone who is licenced to do this, there are licenced electricans here on Youtube, do a search on YT search box for "how to wire a circuit panel"
I know how to do it but if something goes wrong, i don't want to be held liable.
old64goat 5 months ago
Please some one advice me: I am having two electronic ballast tubelights that are controlled by one switch. Now, one of them is always getting short circuit. I have replaced 4 of these within one year, none of them lasting more than a month - cause I dont even go to that room regularly. What is the problem? Everything works well for 10-15 days and then it gets short. The wiring is perfect... Is it because of the 2-way system? I'd love to have some help from any of you experts..Thank you !
RAHULVPV 6 months ago
@RAHULVPV I have never worked with the "electronic ballast tubelights", I have worked with the old style floresent lights & ballast.
Do not use them on a dimmer, a 3-way switch is fine.
If those electronic ballast tubelights are made in China, that could be your problem.
This new crap they make today just do not last.
old64goat 6 months ago
@old64goat Thanx a lot for the advice !!! You're right. They simply dont work for so long. However, one of the tubelights has never caused problem. It has been working just fine for an year now. The other one just gets short, without any visible reason. Probably, its due to company or I have a feeling because 2 electronic ballasts cannot take the load in a single switch. What do you think?
RAHULVPV 6 months ago
@RAHULVPV All a switch does is open and close a circuit, it alone will not cause a problem, but if the switch is on a "dimmer" yes floresent light don't like dimmers.
They use cheap components in them, they can be knocked out by a surge in in line, or just crap out for no reason except it is poor quality.
I would buy a better brand.
old64goat 6 months ago
@old64goat
It's just a normal switch. No dimmer. But yes, I think its a brand problem.Also, the connections have been made by cutting and joining loose wires and ceiling the ends with a tape...rough job.Probs, they get short due to the poor work. Ill look into it. Thanks a lot for taking so much time out to reply. God bless :-)
RAHULVPV 6 months ago
Thanks!
Pudding1978 7 months ago
good knowlege...thank u
sammylcv 7 months ago
Fire Marshal Bill? . . . Oops, sorry
tomjunk1965 7 months ago
like he said he may not draw good but hes totaly right. good vid man , i know electric and just decided to watch a basic wire vid to see whats out here. nice job just should just simplify it, to theres 2 wires , if theres 3 the "naked" one gos to the green or the box lol
JDK1981 8 months ago
Why does the Ground wire goes bare?
I´ve seen that
isn´t that dangerous?
lorancamusic 9 months ago
@lorancamusic It is at ground potental, grounded to the service panel and earth ground.
It does not have to be insulated, as long as that bare wire is not touching the black (hot) wire screw on the outlet when you install the outlet back into the box all is well.
old64goat 9 months ago
@old64goat
Thank you for your kind answer!,
very useful video, I didn´t know the T shaped outlets mean 20A
Greetings from Mexico
- Euryale
lorancamusic 9 months ago
You rock, man. Great video!
GhostFramez 1 year ago
Hey, Thanks for the video. This was a very good explanation and it helpped me replace the Duplex outlet on my furnace. My humidifier was on top powered by the blower and the bottom outlet was powered 24/7. Next Im going to wire in a switch so I dont have to keep using the breaker. Thanks Again!
ComaSeason 1 year ago
@eatledanddie That is in lets say your car 12 volt DC wiring, your car stereo for instance, RED is positive and BLACK negitive.
In house wiring red, black is hot and white is neautral, bare copper ground.
old64goat 1 year ago
I rather listen to him than village (idiots) experts. Thank you for your video.
thecritico 1 year ago
An electrician wired our church. He put a bunch of plugs in the kitchen with the bars broken out with 3 wire (blk, red, wh & gr ) running from a double 15 amp. breaker so that if one plug trips, they both trip. No problem with that but this bozo had the bathroom, music organ, pulpit sound system and refrigerator combined with the kitchen dishwasher on the other half wired the same way. Scary.
perryfan10 1 year ago
@perryfan10, And he has a licence?...if he does he should lose it.
old64goat 1 year ago
@old64goat This was done before I became a trustee so I just fix the problems as I don't want hurt anyone's feelings who might have been in charge at the time.
perryfan10 1 year ago
@old64goat I agree. That is not safe at all. The bathroom, organ, sound, and refrigerator shouldn't be together. Each thing should be on its own breaker.
TheKoko200 7 months ago
@perryfan10 as of 2008 nec multiwire circuits are required to be on ganged breakers, wiring sounds appropriate, but poorly planned.
gasmonkey1234 11 months ago
Great video! I would add that if you do not have any past electrical experience, let an electrician inspect your work. What I do is wire everything to the panel and let the electrician connect it there. I know it's seems foolish to pay $100 for hooking up a few wires but you are buying that proof that your house was wired properly.
perryfan10 1 year ago
@perryfan10, I agree fully, better safe than sorry.
old64goat 1 year ago
@old64goat I used to work in a hardware store and it always amazed me how people could mess up so badly when electricity is involved. One guy with no experience was trying to wire his clothes dryer. He said " I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I hooked the black to one side and green to the other and the whole house shuts off !?" I told him he should stick to plumbing that way he'd only get wet when he did something wrong.
perryfan10 1 year ago
@perryfan10, Some people are a danger to themselves.
old64goat 1 year ago
nice info
6sxpressdotcom 1 year ago
@6sxpressdotcom, Thanks!
old64goat 1 year ago
@6sxpressdotcom, Thanks!
old64goat 1 year ago
What about the ground wire going to the next plug in the chain? Does it go in the same hole as the ground for that plug?
josephrl82 1 year ago
@josephrl82, all wires, bare ground, black hot and white neatural all go to their respected screw on the other outlet in the chain.
old64goat 1 year ago
The neutral and ground are connected only if its not a SUBPANEL it its a subpanel then it should be seperate! Nice video! Keep up the good work! =)
gswimfrk 2 years ago
@gswimfrk Yes that is correct, I have done some house wiring years ago working under a licensed electrician and that is the way we did it.
Of course I am not an electrician, I do know most of the basics of wiring.
Thank You for stopping by.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
I'm not one either... Just a handy 15 year old who likes electrical work and reading code books =D
gswimfrk 2 years ago
Years ago,when I first started doing electrical work, the part of the Beverly Hillbillies song where he sings, "Black gold..Texas tea" got in my head to remember how to wire 110 outlets. Black wire to gold screw. heh..I fool around with antique radios myself. I just recapped a '49 Silvertone Model 9000 AA5, but I think the 35Z5 rectifier tube is bad as none of the other tubes are lighting up. I sure need a tube tester!
I have enjoyed your videos, Bill.
radioripster 2 years ago
Hi Radioripster, You should be able to find a tube tester on eBay, to test for a burnt out tube, all you need is an ohmmeter.
Any tube tester will show an open filament even a cheap emission tester.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
I can't find an answer to this. The neutral (groundED) wire is bonded to the groundING wire at the enclosure box. Current is constantly alternating direction in AC power. To an electrical load, the power seems to be coming from the "hot" wire, then from the "neutral" wire and back to "hot" again - correct? If the neutral wire is carrying current - why isn't current constantly passing from the neutral to the ground wire and into the earth? I've looked all over and can't find an answer to this.
damrak1969 2 years ago
Hi Brentthai, Thanks I appreciate that.
Bill.
old64goat 2 years ago
when i wire a 20 amp plug can i wirer 6 outlets two one wire that go to the breaker and use a 20amp breaker.
garcias911 2 years ago
Hi garcias911, You mean using a wire with a 20 amp plug on it and than adding 6 outlets to it like an extention cord?
If so no no it is not okay.
If you mean having 6 outlets daisy chained and connected to a 20 amp breaker, as long as each of those outlets are rated for 20 amps and you are using 12 ga. wire, that should be okay.
As LONG as the TOTAL current draw is no more than 20 amps for ALL the outlets.
In other words, you don't overload that circuit.
old64goat 2 years ago
yes i want 6 outlets daisy chained and connected to a 20 amp breaker, as long as each of those outlets are rated for 20 amps and you are using 12 ga. wire, that should be okay.
As LONG as the TOTAL current draw is no more than 20 amps for ALL the outlets.
In other words, you don't overload that circuit.
garcias911 2 years ago
@old64goat actually, the NEC states that the total load for the 20A circuit cannot exceed 80% of the rating for the circuit breaker. In the case of a 20A circuit wired with #12 conductors, that means no more than 16A of cord-and-plug connected equipment per NEC 210-23(a). So, a 15A circuit, wired with #14 conductors should carry no more than a 12A load.
russdonruss 1 year ago
@russdonruss That may very well be true, but who is going to say my toaster draws 19.5 amps so I have to change my romex to 10 ga.?
I don't think so....LOL
old64goat 1 year ago
@old64goat you probably won't have to do much--the circuit breaker will more than likely trip after the 2nd piece of toast :)
russdonruss 1 year ago
@russdonruss, And perhaps sooner if you like the toast dark....LOL
old64goat 1 year ago
Sounds like Gilbert Godfrey. Fun.
SaviourSole 2 years ago
Awesome man; thank you SOOOOOO much; I was trying not to hire an electrician, and you just made that possible. I will be very careful A+++ You should get a workshop bro, that was an awesome job.
Bullochman 2 years ago
Hi Bullochman, You are welcome, I am glad I was able to help in my small way.
I am no electrician, but I know just enough to keep myself out of trouble...heehee.
Thanks for watching.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Thanks. You just answered my question about the reason for 4 screws on my outlet. Appreciate the info.
plasticjesus108 2 years ago
Hi plasticjesus108, Glad it helped you.
Thanks for viewing.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Yeah, and then new questions came up... HAHA! Like using a 20Amp outlet on a 15 Amp line already used by all sorts of devices
plasticjesus108 2 years ago
plasticjesus108, That is a no no.
Using a 20 amp outlet on 14 ga. wite is bad enough, but the total aprerage should not exceed 15 amps!
old64goat 2 years ago
Dear Bill, consider this one of the few sincere comments I have made on You Tube. I just wanted to let you know I went out and bought a standard outlet the other day so as not to kill myself. Just wanted to say I have everything seemingly working well. Immense thanks again!
plasticjesus108 2 years ago
Hi again plasticjesus108, Now I feel better knowing that the job will be done correctly.
Glad you got it working well.
Thanks again for those kind words.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Yeah, everything has been on all day and no heat or smell of smoke. HAHA! Yet. Thanks again
plasticjesus108 2 years ago
this is not legal anymore,,, in all residential aplications u must use a tamper proof receptacle,
bigbird756 2 years ago
Good video Bill. Good to know that T hole means 20 AMP outlet.
Thanks,
Ravi
rrangana11 2 years ago
Hi Ravi, Thanks glad you liked it, thanks for stopping by.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Good informative video Bill. I'm sure that some folks will get some good info from this. THANKS BILL, C.W.
harleyhawgn 2 years ago
Hi C.W., This may help those who may have wanted to do this themselves but were unsure.
Thanks for stopping by.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Great video Bill.
hillbilly482 2 years ago
Thanks Hillbilly, glad you liked it.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Josh, When I was in school my favorite subject was science, I loved it when I had science class.
I hated math I was very poor at it.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Very well done video. Very informative. I have 20-amp circuits in my house with outlets that don't have the T-prong hole (70's era). Are those fairly recent? I wired my barn with 20 amp and I did use the 20 amp outlets with the T-prong hole.
You can break the tab on the outlets and wire them so 1 half is on a switch and the other half is unswitched. All the outlets in my parent's living room are wired that way.
JeffN727 2 years ago
Jeff, If they do not have the "T" neautral hole, they should be a 15 anp outlet.
As I recall I think they may have had 20 amp outlets back in the 70's that did NOT have the "T" hole.
Today they sell 15 amp (no T hole) and 20 amp (with T hole)
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Hi Bill,
Another great video, very well done.
Thanks.
David
lzdsl0 2 years ago
Thank You David.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
Bill,
I enjoyed the video very much. I have always enjoyed working with electricity. I was in school in Jacksonville Florida back in the late 1970's and I had a great electrical course teacher. It is all in the simplicity of teaching that makes the difference. I like the way you simplify your information. Keep up the good work. 5 stars! Rich (ncautoman57)
ncautoman57 2 years ago
Thanks Rich, Many many years ago I knew an old guy who was somewhat eccentric but very smart, he knew tv''s radio and the theory of how they worked, he taught me in a way that I could grasp it.
I would see him in the coffee shop or restaurant, he was always reading a book.
I would sit buy him a coffee and talk tech.
I was able to ubderstand him when he explained things. So when I explain things here, I break it down like he did for me so it can be understood and stays with you.
old64goat 2 years ago
Another nice video, Bill. BTW, I don't post comments often, but I'm watching! Cheers.
ka7cev 2 years ago
Thanks Ka7cev, I appreciate that.
Bill
old64goat 2 years ago
thanks man thats very interesting
dinnycash 2 years ago
Thanks Dinny, Glad you liked it.
old64goat 2 years ago
Hi Bill, an electrician I am not,but I have replaced these outlets and circuit breakers,that is about the extent of my knowledge.When I was thirteen years old I was almost electrocuted so I do not mess with electricity.I can remeber the electric wire burning my hands and shaking me until I was unconscious,so now I'm afraid of electricity.Have a great weeknd my friend.5*****Jerry
jc6154 2 years ago
Hi Jerry, I am not an electrician either, i am a jack of all trade and master of none....LOL.
Way back in the early 70's I have wired a house UNDER a licened electrician and was checked by him to make sure it was to code, I was like a helper.
You have to respect electricity, work very slowly and know where your hands are going.
Work with one hand in your pocket around breaker panels.
Pull the main breaker first.
old64goat 2 years ago