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  • "... is the same kind of bar ..." : honestly, these moves match the timing dates of:

    12/22/2009 , 01/15/2010 , 03/04/2010 , 04/23/2010 , 05/14/2010 and of course 07/01/2010 , all drops off the sine-wave peaks in my model. I expect we'll see this each 32 trading days 1 to 3 more times before the giant shoot up to $1450, as per the multi-year hove&rise pattern in gold. The 131-day rate of change dips to 0 very seldom and the shoot-up follows : /watch?v=UohYQVCLKOE

  • it's no longer remarkable, on the curve down, as it always swings up just as the sine-wave curve always does and has since December 2009.

  • currencies fluctuating also has lead to $20 to $35 single-day moves up or down for gold and I consider even up to $45 to be unremarkable. $45 to $65 I consider "of note" and anything more all in one day to be real news. What's notable this time around is on this dip (again in my model just as many local peaks are passed in a pattern with an equation) is the dip was in EVERY currency at once that I have been able to check on. That's manipulation. While abnormal, if it follows the sine-curve, it's

  • any price reduction smaller than a $150 move in gold I consider not to be a collapse. A reduction, temporary, but not a collapse. If it went to $1000 and stayed there or lower for 5 months I'd call that a collapse.

    /watch?v=FB1BYThgcJc

    this is the move & time-line I see for gold short-term before the $1450 level

  • Love that collapse gold from 1250 to 1200 mean while I purchased gold at 700 to 900. Man am I hurting!

  • @davincij15

    If you are still holding from 700 and 900 you are still in the game with good profits. I like to take money off the table though. I don't hold any positions long term. As a matter of fact I often take profits daily and am flat by the close.

  • @pulsescan72

    You will learn like most people in history... with experience. I choose to learn from other peoples experience and reading how hyperinflation went down in other places it's clear to me it could happen on Tuesday and your done.

    But don't worry after the initial hit speculators do well in the ensuing panic as money moves from one asset to another to make up for losses.

  • @pulsescan72 that being said, the time-local rate / wave manipulation shows me to expect something around $1140 around 07/15/2010

  • @pulsescan72

    do you actually make money on net or lose? i mean honestly.

    i find anything i make, i end up losing.

    with Goldman sachs type goons gaming the markets and extracting huge sums daily, i don't see how most people can come out winners. I heard only 15% of day traders make money while the rest take big losses.

  • @orangedac

    Yes I make money consistently. That's why I posted my track record. Just look back over all of my vids and you will see that had you taken all the trades listed there you would be up huge right now. I put my reputation on the line every day to prove that it can be done over and over and over again consistently.

  • Nothing I did not know was coming, I still can not believe so many people(in the media mainly) are surprised. I sold everything in 2005 and bought equipment... I have made more money than the stock-market would have ever made with that money.. I have also been buying silver. I think my average silver holdings is about 14 dollars. I'd buy food before I'd buy Gold or silver now, Food is set to rise very fast. Buy what you need and then one for the pantry.

  • Conspiracy Facts. Oxymoron?

  • @ddstar

    the market manipulation is well documented. Conspiracy does not = theory. Facts = what has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

  • I'm eager to hear about "what could end up happening at certain price points" in your next video(s).

  • We have talked of DOOM. We have talked of GLOOM. Now the USA will go KABOOM.

  • @larnem

    LOL. your correct but it will be painful.

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  • Gold is usualy a hedge against weak currencies, esp' the $, so with that in mind where the hell is all the money going that has left the markets en-mass?

    .

    This looks like a rigged move to me, it's too strong and the timing is wrong.

    Either that or everyone has just suddenly decided to go to the sidelines until the US jobs data comes out. Maybe it's a bit of both?

  • @ShillBasher

    good analysis. your on the right track

  • Stock up on brass!

  • EXCELLENT!

  • The markets are back were they were in 1998. Gold/silver has not gotten back to 1998 levels. Gerald Celente mentioned that in his latest vid.

  • Stopped out at 119.59 on GLD !

    not good, not good.

  • @orangedac what about web bots? They are on fire and say silver will go through the roof? Is that possible, under these cirumstances that gold and silver revert to their historical mean average of 14:1 instead of the 60:1 it is now? I mean gold would move down and silver would move up.

    If emergency happens people wont afford gold they would rush into silver wouldnt they? Silver, copper any precious other then gold or platinum right?

  • @limitedplay

    Web bots sound like a bunch of BS to me.

    There are too many bulls in gold & silver.

  • @limitedplay

    Web bots.. seriously?

    The sort of money that drives the markets big moves is big enough to afford gold, and plenty of it. We're talking billions.

    P.S. forget copper, it's industrial. You'd need tons of the stuff to equal just a couple of ounces of gold.

  • @orangedac

    don't worry. you win some you lose some. you will make it all back and then some. I will explain what happened in my up coming video. be encouraged. the tough part about trading the trend is that you can get stopped out at the end of the move. the idea is that you make so much during the move that when days like this happen on turning points you still come out ahead. i will try to explain latter.

  • @pulsescan72

    I'm losing faith in day trading.

    Its really just gambling. Nobody knows where anything is going.

    I tried the reccomendations of 2 technical analysts - you and one other chap who is an elliot wave trader. Both positions got stopped out.

    Anyway its my own fault.

  • @orangedac The reason the AI outputs are leading to stop-out losses up and down is there are competing AI's fighting the prior AI's for their outputs to beat them. The pandora AI is not as new or powerful as the ones in play right now. Here's what I do: I calculate the end-result of the chart at each given date so there's no trigger that will screw up intra-day. On TTM for another person here they made out well using my chart, no triggers. Almost the same numbers as from pandora but NO stops

  • @orangedac to be more precise, the chart I made had a low-bound, a high-bound and a a middle channel so you make your own judgement of an exit position & approximate date with no possible intra-day triggers to stop out up or down. The data+trend lasted for more than 10 trading days as presented and the other youtuber was out of his position with profit long before the trend ended. My charting technique is in my gold model videos 1 to 8 in great detail on my channel

  • so what do those of us with cash do with our money. If the metals arent a "fight to saftey" and the market is headed down, everyone should know that, and the dollars run is ending?????????????????

  • @limitedplay  good question I also wounder.

  • @limitedplay

    Kind of worrysome ain't it that nobody knows the answer to that.

    Not that I know anything but I suggest you not get sucked into any hype and stay in cash. My feeling is that almost anything you can buy today will be much cheaper 6 to12 months out when the stock market craters.

    I'm hanging onto my cash and buying a little physical gold on these dips.

  • @limitedplay Dollars make excellent wallpaper! $20. bills make beautiful book marks. $100. dollar bills are very thoughtful gifts.

    The best investments are food, water and bribes!

  • @limitedplay

    thats a tough question to answer. I will ponder it and get back to you in my next video.

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