Time to wake up. I'm developing free energy weaponry to combat th NWO. They can't fuck with me. They can't make me believe theire lies. I'll kill those pussies
@pmcgraw13 Make sure you get the development of your weapon on video and post it to YouTube so that we can make fun of... er, I mean, analyze and assist in the development of it.
@scotfreak This video by itself is a rebuttal against media involvement based on the appearance that objects shifted. Personally, I don't believe in any of the MIHOP or LIHOP theories, and without such conspiracies there is no need for media involvement in them.
@notchjohnson1 what? what the hell is wrong with you. why would ever even joke about something like that. you really wish that a plane filled with people crashes. youre sick. my mom is a flight attendant so saying shit like that gets me really pissed off
@notchjohnson1 now why would you want that? i live in an apartment building, lots of families would die. you're sick man. i also dont know why you're saying this so im assuming you're a crazy person. might wanna... you know, get tested or somethin, you know? i also cant believe that you truly hope for that, its a tad bit etreme.
The fact that you can recreate all of these perspectives digitally, only proves how they were digitally presented to us.. your last few statements were true, but does not rule out any foul play..
@BrutalMind1984 You exhibit a tendency toward paranoid delusion. In your mind, if the ability to create a counterfeit dollar bill exists then ALL dollar bills must be counterfeit. That's a sign that you may have a mental health problem.
@JJLatBIM Haha, good point, I am f"ed in the head so I'm sure that has something to do with my logic. It's just hard to ignore all of the strange material discovered throughout the years..
@BrutalMind1984 Admitting you may have a problem is the first step towards recovery. There is a metric buttload of strange things from 9/11, but only because we have no experience telling us what was expected from such an enormous and horrible event. Good luck.
@ijuststoledurvideo I don't believe in the paranormal, so at BIM, I cover the "conspiracy theory" beat, which includes occasionally debunking such things. The psychology of CT believers more interesting than the psychology of paranormal believers. CT believers have more of a tendency to retreat with a redirection, like during a debate about parallax shift, CT believers bring up things like "Northwoods", opinion poles, bomb sniffing dogs, etc, etc, etc, and anything else to avoid the subject.
Look. There's just to many reasons not to believe that the govt wasn't some how, one way or another involved in this. Northwoods is just one of many. Perfect example of, exactly what the powers that be are capable of and what they're actually willing to do.. Do you honestly believe there mind set has changed much since then? You need only to open your eyes. But then you have the answer to all of us right? The people that question the official story are all crazy! My Govts all about "for the pe
@ijuststoledurvideo Conceiving an idea does not imply that one has the capability OR the willingness to complete it. You have to a huge illogical leap to think that just because a few guys high up in the military structure conceived of a false flag operation that every attack against us must be a false flag.
@ijuststoledurvideo Please... not that tired old "Operation Northwoods" retreat. And retreat, you should. You reference ancient video based on misunderstood parallax shifts that a 5 year old can explain, you make unsubstantiated claims about growing popular support of 9/11 conspiracy theories, and you use innuendo about obscure false flag plans and unrelated leaked classified documents. It certainly helps me place you on the mental health spectrum.
But seeing you mention the scale and scope of 911. Do you really believe a bunch of camel jockeys pulled that off all by themselves? Really? Tim Osman? Lmao. My original intent here was trying to say your wasting your time. Try as they might, No one can actually prove anything one way or another. Not even you!
@ijuststoledurvideo I do believe that in 2001, 4 small teams of men could have taken control of 4 passenger airliners and crashed 3 of them into almost any targets they desired. To fake just THAT and keep the fake a secret would have been near impossible. The manner of that fakery and the faking of the aftermath where the truly mentally ill come to light. Belief that holograms, underbelly missiles, controlled demolition, or space weapons were involved are sure signs of mental illness.
There are no up to date numbers! It was a rhetorical question to see where you would go with it. like I said, unless you use Alex jones or others like him to rely on. Best I can do is this,
I think for every video like yours on YouTube there are at least 2 or 3 debating it. And if you read the comments of these videos I'd have to say there's more "delusional" people then not delusional. Or maybe sane people just don't go on YouTube, to watch this stuff, I don't know
@ijuststoledurvideo Oh, so when you said, "you and your posse are losing ground", you were expressing your personal feeling in the form of a factual claim. OK. I would guess that for every video like mine, there are hundreds by people who believe the conspiracy theories. The vast majority of the people who even look for such videos are believers and those who debate are even stronger believers. Most sane people are not debating 9/11 at all, much less a conspiracy theory.
Wikileaks is pretty good proof of how arrogant they actually are. Hell maybe one of the 250000 cables will have something to do with 911. That is if they all get released.
@ijuststoledurvideo By the way, I am not so naive that I think the U.S. govt is incapable of contemplating a false flag operation and creating plans for such an operation. There is a difference between healthy distrust and paranoid delusion. The scale, scope, and visibility of the events of 9/11 as a false flag operation put it in the paranoid delusion side of spectrum with "alien bases on the moon".
That's funny, Where exactly do you get your numbers from every week? I havnt seen any new numbers from a reliable source since about 2007, "51% of americans want congress to probe bush/cheney regarding 9/11 attacks; over 30% seek immediate impeachment" unless of course Alex jones is your source. Mostly any new numbers come from CT sites. None the less, i don't think people should be so naive and think the us govt. isn't capable of doing something like this. Wikileaks is pretty good proof of ho
@ijuststoledurvideo I don't just report the numbers of other researchers, I do my own research and report MY research every week. But you said I and my posse are losing ground and that I should check the recent numbers that demonstrate this. That implies you're aware of numbers lately that contradict my position. So I'll ask again, what numbers do you have?
Yeah, no I stole the video, just figured it fit right into this dumb ass debate that people like you keep pushing. So what's the point? You gonna change peoples minds 1 at a time? Lmao I highly doubt it, maybe when internet2 gets pushed through that'll finally have the affect you so desperately are trying to achieve. But until then, you and your posse are loosing ground. Checked out the numbers lately?
@ijuststoledurvideo The point of the video is to present objective facts that refute the claims of the conspiracy theory believers and the HOPE is that someone teetering on edge of the delusion will see this and similar videos and pull themselves back from the abyss.
By the way, I check and report on the numbers every week. What numbers do you have that indicate more people are sinking into mental illness and believing the conspiracy theories?
@ijuststoledurvideo Based on your username and obsolete video you've chosen, is it safe to assume that you are not the author of that video? That video is a pretty good demonstration of parallax shift. The video seems to be aware of the parallax phenomenon, and yet the author's paranoid delusion forces him to ignore what he KNOWS in favor of what he WANTS to believe. It is sad, isn't it?
@djditii You'll have to give me a little more detail in order to explain it. Give me time stamps where you think I've made a mistake and explain why you think I'm mistaken.
@GamingsecretsTV I think the controversy was because people think they should be able to see landmarks in Brooklyn and at least one of the bridges, but the only background is haze. They don't seem to realize that the camera is looking above the horizon into infinity.
with my respect to your explaination;but do you by yourself beleive in that.It was inside job please see Richplanet 911 3D Analysis Part 1 & 2 ;if you are not a CIA agent
@shearwano I watched Richplanet 911 3D Analysis Part 1 and 2 and found nothing at all new. Years ago, others have concluded that the impacts were not from airliners and all of the video and images ever presented were manipulated to disguise the actual delivery device. Others have done 3D modeling. Richard D. Hall is deluded; 1st about there being an R/C anti-gravity drone involved, and 2nd about presenting anything remotely new v=eFIGeINof0Y.
At the time of the 1st attack at 8.46.26 the sun was at precisely 23degrees 57.699' altitude above the visible horizon in manhattan. At the time of the second attack the sun was at 26 degrees 53.525' altitude. provide correct information or dont bother.
@SUNIVAG I realize the brains of Truthers have a defect that places extreme importance on precision, so this video is aimed at those people who haven't gone completely into the Truther delusion. When I said "about 27 degrees" normal people assumed I meant somewhere between 26.5 and 27.5. Apparently for you, 26.892 is not close enough to be called "about 27". I'll try keep that in mind.
Oh well. There's either two sides, and no in-between. Those who believe terrorists or whoever hit the buildings, and then those who believe "conspiracies" like myself. I'm not gonna argue, seeing as how you can't convince everyone and everything that needed to be said already has, I'm gonna try and respect your belief, like I would a religion. That doesn't mean we can't TRY to open your eyes though [although not everyone has to shout at each other]
@InnocentzRaptor There are many "sides". Even within the group of people who believe the muslim terrorist explanation, there are numerous nuances. My hope is that I catch a few otherwise non-nutty people teetering on the edge of the "Truther" delusion and show them a light of sanity. The facts of 9/11 are not a matter of faith like religion where science and logic break down.
You have incredible patience with these fuckheads. So much for a reasoned explanation, with visual aids. You will never convince these guys and the harder you try the further they drift into this weird world. But thanks for trying.
@fishyboy08, I created them myself just using the simple polygons built into Google Earth. The smoke in this version is also a simple polygon. Draw the shape, set the altitude, then extend it to the ground.
More recently, I've started using a World Trade Center model someone created with SketchUp. But for my purposes, the polygons are more than adequate and just as accurate.
@90joey901, it would helpful to know to whom you are referring with "you people". Do you mean people like me who show our respect for the dead by opposing conspiracy theory nuts? Or do you mean the conspiracy theory nuts?
You are joking, right??? This is a response to SeptClues part 7? Why was the Empire State Building jumping from the left side of the camera to the right side with different Networks, when the background and all other buildings were IDENTICAL. Zoom arguments will not work here. Show me on Google Earth how this is possible. I don't believe the lengths you people are going to, to discredit the most obvious ecidence yet.
As I state in the video, the video shows that the camera angles are easily explained and not unusual in any way. The camera angles do not support any fantastical conspiracy theory.
Ignoring the ultimate conclusion of an inside job, do you think this video analysis was accurate in explaining how suspicious video is a simple matter of camera perspective and not fake video? If not, do you hold the opinion that every single video recorded that day was faked by the conspirators?
Once again, try to forget that it was an inside job and focus on the statement made by this video. Of the suspicious camera angles shown in this video, do you think I've correctly shown that those camera angles are easily explained and not at all suspicious?
If I thought it was an inside job and it was done to get cheap oil, I certainly would agree that it was a stupid plan. Obviously I don't hate Bush enough for it to cause such brain damage.
No "conspiracy" of "news agencies" necessary, because they are the same as defense contractors and Pentagon. A simple investigation will reveal that to anyone. Media is a propaganda outlet & nothing more. This vid is smoke and mirrors for shots that were not possible and just plain don't look right.
Yes, the media regurgitates what they're told and they run stories based on available video, but they are not an arm of the government. There are simply too many loose ends for the media to be directly involved, which would be needed to feed faked live video on every single video feed. It's ridiculous to devote more than 2 minutes of thought to the idea (although I have).
My use of Google Earth demonstrates a lack of anything extraordinary about the camera positions in the videos reviewed.
wrong about the "loose ends"- there are a few corporrations who run everything. When people leave the Pentagon they go to work for them. Google schmoogle, I have eyes and they tell me these are fake.
Wow! I have 2 very important questions for you: You honestly think that every single newspaper, magazine, radio station, TV station, and television and cable network is owned by a large corporation controlled by the government? AND you think that every single reporter, news producer, camera man, photographer, and news anchor was and remains in on the conspiracy?
Oh come on! Did you not notice Coppola style of locked down cameras and dramatic lighting I used? And the complete rip-off of Coppola's technique of jumping back and forth to different times in the life of the main character?
There are small periodical and radio stations that are privately owned and not owned by any large network or corporation. There were numerous videos and photos taken by individuals and reporters with honest and honorable intentions and not all of it has been bought and concealed by the government.
BTW, a "network" does not imply a single controlling entity. TV news sources certainly do SHARE video, but they are not compelled to use a single approved feed.
I'm presenting evidence. I think my analysis shows that the evidence I analyzed is perfectly explainable without an elaborate fake, and the application of Occam's razor suggests that the videos were not faked and all media outlets manipulated.
If you say the videos are fake, your task of proving the fake is much more difficult than my task of proving them real.
But we CAN and DO know that the 9/11 Commission, NIST explanation aligns best with what we saw on TV, pictures, or witnessed in person. And the fantasy concoctions of people like Alex Jones are impossible in the extreme.
Truth is a measure of conformity to facts and reality, and as such is subjective and therefore is different for each person.
This video wasn't meant to prove anything. I think it provides plausible answers to the questions posed about the videos featured in this video. Those questions boil down to: "If it wasn't faked, why does the smoke, shadow, brightness, background, foreground, etc not line up between video A and video B?" This video says, all those things DO line up and don't support TV fakery.
I am very familiar with Clark's, Hezarkhani's, and Taylor's individual contributions to the pile of documentation of that day. Do you find something fishy about any of their videos or pictures?
I can do such an analysis. Which youtube video best portrays the movement that you described? I've looked at hundreds of videos that juxtapose videos shot from different angles and focal lengths, and not just involving 9/11. I have not seen such a 9/11 video yet that I can't explain.
By the way, is it safe to assume that you accept the analysis done in this video as accurate?
Here is a clip about the bridge sequence. I was able to determine that the History Channel used their Poetic License to snip out about 41 seconds of footage.
I'd be interested in your analysis, please. Especially if you can explain how the bridge looks 'too large' compared to the WTC.
A good example of an optical illusion. A VERY long and changing zoom combined with horizontal movement along a curved path that is centered on a large stationary vertical object with another stationary horizontal object with prominent cable parabolas in the background. The illusion results from the fact that our brain assumes OUR view (from the camera) is stationary and therefor the movement we see must be the objects, not us. The cables even trick our brains into seeing vertical movement.
Hi BIM, I have a few questions for you. I've watched all of your videos, visit your website, listen to the radio show and have been on the Queen Mary tours with Pat Wheelock. I have been following you guys for a couple of years now. You seem to have access to a lot of information that the average person can't gain access to. Do you guys work for or have connections with the government? If not, how is it that you have access to certain pieces of information others can't?
To who ever at the BIM Team that reads the You Tube comments. You seem to be unwilling to answer my questions regarding your connection to the U.S. government. Could it be that the photos I have seen of you at one of the FBI offices tells a little more than you would like?
you wana believe what your told on faith alone then good luck, you wana sit down pay attention learn something and make up your own mind based on logic & reasoning, search Zeitgeist 911
I've watched Zeitgeist, thank you. It's not very compelling. But, the point of THIS video is only to see if simple camera perspective could explain why some of the buildings seemed to be in different positions from nearly the same camera position, and why Brooklyn and the bridges could not be seen in the background. Based on this simple analysis, camera angles easily explains such things. If anyone now uses such evidence to support a conspiracy theory, they have lost credibility.
im sorry if my comment sounded like an attack on you i just watched zeitgeist and it totally changed my view on 9/11, but then again those type of videos are supposed to
A group of aliens had hijacked the AA11 and UA175.
Then two UFOs morphed to the shape of AA11 and UA175 respectively.
The two fake AA11 and UA175 crashed to the Twins Towers. And the crew and passenger were sent to another earth with high cultivation to become alien's hostages.
JJLatBIM, I have a few things I can't figure out. Like, where did all of the dust come from?If there weren't any explosions, why was so much concrete turn into dust?
was a rough estimate and was slightly off,. the camera views on 9.11 are 100 acurate. just the plane was inserted thats all. nothing wrong with anything else.
Aside from the fact that someone COULD create A convincing fake plane flying along the NYC skyline, there is nothing I've seen yet that suggests any of the numerous videos depict anything other than actual airliners actually flying into the towers. However, the point of this video is to show why simple perspective differences of the various cameras accounts for buildings apparently shifting.
I created those buildings and the smoke using the polygon shapes built into Google Earth. In future videos using GE, I'll use a simple cone shape created in SketchUp to portray the smoke instead of the polygon.
Here's your answer, the missing money is from even before Clinton, and the first Bush. The missing money probably started within the Reagan era, but we'll never know now will we, since our current government blew up the building with the documents as well as blowing up the other buildings. All on 9/11, what a coincidence, or as my friend says a "coinky dink". INVESTIGATE 9/11. The 9/11 commission was a cover-up.
I would guess that the losses have been building up since before Reagan. I think the losses are from bad book keeping, waste, and even some corruption. Though not corruption on the grand scale that conspiracy theorists believe.
But you didn't quite answer the question. Not where did all the money come from, but why was the Bush administration chosen to finally hide it? Why still in the Clinton budget, was it time to, once and for all, hide decades of theft?
You know as far as I'm concerned, if Clinton and Gore are involved, hang them too. I'm not saying they are not involved. Could be. This horrible group of people have been organized for a lonnnnng time, and they pull politicians into their circle as fast as they can. Politicians see the only way to get anywhere is through them, so they join up, knowing only the tip of the iceberg. Many are kept out of the loop altogether. Why don't you ask Cynthia McKinney if they let her play with the big boys?
OK, so do you think the missing money had just grown too large to continue hiding in the way that had apparently been working just fine throughout the Clinton administration?
Cynthia McKinney is a small, angry, impulsive, and violent person and way out of her league to try playing with the big boys.
You are small, angry, impulsive and violent and way out of your league to try playing with the big boys, too. So go to sleep. Leave the investigations to people who care about the world.
Once again beastshawnee, I don't know where this hostility comes from. I wasn't insulting you. I just asked a logical question and expressed my opinion of former Representative McKinney, which is based partially on her assault of a police officer.
But now, it seems to me the only people you want investigating the events of 9/11 are people who buy into some conspiracy theory and join in the accusations against the Bush administration. That's not the same thing as "caring about the world".
You must believe everything you read from Big Brother. But thanks for looking up Cynthia McKinney, even the false stuff because from your earlier reply I could see you didn't even know who she was. Now if you'd just keep on educating yourself you might know what you're talking about once in a while.
What is "Big Brother" hiding from me or lying to me about McKinney? And why did u think I knew nothing about her? Is it because I left out "paranoid delusional racist" from her list of attributes? I first caught wind of McKinney when her district was declared unconstitutional and then again when she railed against Gore.
And you still haven't answered the question: had the missing money grown too large to continue hiding in the way that had worked throughout the Clinton administration?
I didn't say any Presidents were stealing the money. Your theory states that Rumsfeld was covering up the misappropriation of $2.3T. I'm saying that some of that money you say is being protected must have began being stolen during previous administrations, and if the SecDef is aware of the funds then Cohen is very likely to have known also. I refer to the President's name only in the name of the administration in office during the thefts. I ASKED if YOU thought Clinton/Gore/Cohen are involved.
watch?v=zQTsiLX3XbA if you watch that video you can tell its REAL! the camrea is moving around properly like it should... This also shows the proper color and shadows that you would see on a very very sunny and CLEAR day!! you can see boats and other things because its not a FAKE VIDEO! You can also see no PLANE FLYING anywhere near the towers.. and hear the reportes witness NO PLANE AT all just an explosion.. This is real video those other still images u use were taken from fake videos.
zQTsiLX3XbA IS real? It shakes bcuz it's from an aircraft unlike most others. All cameras have numerous auto settings for how to deal with light and white balance making color meaningless. There is no difference in shadows, only the brightness of the north face of the towers, which is normal given the design and angle of the sun. And by the way, I see the plane at about 0:11 on the right enter from the top of the frame.
I dont hate America I hate the way people ignore the simple truth.. Camera angles dont lie. shadows from the sun does not lie.. This video proves that all the live feeds were faked on 9/11 and im just sad that others dont see it.. thats all man so chill out with calling me names and grow up.
"Camera angles dont lie. shadows from the sun does not lie."
Correct. But how that information is interpretted by the human brain may not be congruent with factual reality. A video may not show you enough to deduce all the important facts. That doesn't make such video fake.
Well my comment is back up now.. I either missed it last time I looked or somehow its been re posted... but anyway.. 2.3 Trillions dollars stolen from the pentagon as reported on 2/10/2001 could pay for anything, controlling the media paying off people to say whatever they want would be the easy part. 2.3 TRILLION goes along way.. Donald Rumsfield declared war on the Pentagon Bureaucrats on 2/10/2001 his exact words were 'matter of life and DEATH' we all know what happened the next day!!!
Was Rummy foolish, or was he just being brazen, to make such an obvious statement knowing the very next day he planned to kill so many people and destroy so much in broad daylight?
The people who were investing the stolen/lost 2.3 trillions dollars were the target on 9/11/01 in the pentagon..
This area of the pentagon was also recently reinforced to allow for some chance of survival for these people.. If a terrorist from another country was flying a plane into the pentagon why not fly it directly in the front door, or anywhere else other then the area where people were investing the pentagon?
"If a terrorist from another country was flying a plane into the pentagon why not fly it directly in the front door[?]"
So because they didn't fly the plane into the most significant part (from a death and destruction or psychological impact perspective) of the building, you're saying that it suggests foreign terrorists are less likely than a massive government conspiracy?
Do I need to pick everything apart in that video? One easy target is at 1:26. The screen says, "supposing such a vantage point exists, how did NBC deploy a live camera unit up here in barely 6 minutes?"
That shot is obviously from the GE building and aligns perfectly with all the points in the other video. What's in the GE building? GE owns NBC and that building is where the NBC Today is filmed. How could NBC get a camera there so quick? Is that really a mystery in need of investigation?
I would agree with you if NBC was the ones who took that video, NBC was given that video by a profesional Animator who worked in that building and decided to give them the video for free. Thats the OFFICIAL story behind that video.. NBC did not record from that location. The investigation on that video has already taken place.. :-)
rollonequick, I think you're confusing the CNN and NBC shots. It was one of the CNN shots that CT believers accuse of being the same as Devin Clark's. Which of course, the accusation has been shown to be without merit. Clark's video was from 1 Penn Plaza and CNN happens to lease the top couple floors of 5 Penn Plaza. They would have been only about 150 yards apart and nearly 3 miles from ground zero. That's less than a 2 degree difference in perspective. Nearly imperceptable.
"Admits" is a loaded word that implies he tried to conceal the fact. In nMtVPHMGRRU, he says that he freely gave his footage to CNN and that CNN used it. He didn't say his footage was the live CNN feed. Remember, his view was less than 2 degrees off from CNN's and the same distance. It SHOULD look almost identical. There is no merit to a claim that CNN used Devin's camera for a live feed. It's not true and the truth is inconsequential.
Rumsfeld was just being his clever criminal self. Here's how it happened: A.People want to know where the money went. B.They put off looking into it. C. They announce they are looking into it. D. They destroy all the evidence so it can never be looked into. This is an old technique. The American government owes 7 trillion dollars on land leases to Native American Indians, they ask for an inquiry, and boom, all the evidence gets destroyed. Soooorrrry, no evidence, no payout.
beastshawnee, I think your motive theory stretches credibility and overreaches my ability to acquire evidence for or against the theory. It assumes that all the money was stolen for illicit purposes and there was some credible threat of exposure. As 9/11 was only 8 months into the Bush administration, the action must have been designed to at least partially coverup money missing from the Clinton administration. Is that your contention?
It doesn't assume any such thing. I don't know who took the money or why they took the money. I know it's missing and I assume that whoever "mislaid" the money doesn't want people to know they have it.
You can claim a lack of such assumptions, but the theory assumes alot. The theory must assume the money was taken illegally, else why cover it up? The entire FY2001 federal income was $2T so in order to hide the siphoning of $2.3T the theory must assume it was taken in chunks easily hidden over multiple years which started during the previous administration. Even if the ENTIRE Defense budget was stolen, it would have taken at least 8 years to get $2.3T. So, are Clinton/Gore/Cohen also involved?
The shadows on the buildings are not correct in the news videos!! there should be DARK SHADOWS!! which there are at the forground buildings but then the background buildings have been some how LIT UP! as if the son is at 2 places.. They were using same tech as you just with greater detail and took the sun completly OUT! thank your for making this video because it proves the media did fool everyone who watched that day.. and please do not delete my comment again! people deserve to know the truth!
First, I never deleted any comments by you or anyone else.
Most importantly, the brightness of the tower faces varied more than other buildings because of the way the windows are inset in aluminum-clad slots. On 9/11 at 9:03 am, from ENE, the north face appears as bright as the east because you're actually seeing the east facet of the aluminum cladding. From NNE, the north face was only tangentially lit aluminum and unlit dark windows. Distance also exaggerates the effect.
Shadows on the news vids... Yeah, cuz the media LOVES Bush, so they are in on it. Dumbass.
"and please do not delete my comment again!" Yeah the people at BIM wanted to delete YOUR comment, cuz they are in on it, right? Dumbass...
"people deserve to know the truth!" Truth? What you mean the bullshit you believe in and are trying to spread because you hate Bush and America? That's it, you're a dick sack!
I referred you to two sources easily available on youtube. Their being posted on youtube does not negate the research involved any more than your video being posted does. You can take your obssession with the "mostly" and cram it along with your shill covering what happened on 9/11. People are dead and you are obstructing justice.
giraffedancing, I'm sorry, but I see only 2 comments from you for this video and neither contains reference to sources of any kind. Now, I didn't raise the issue that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections. I tried to avoid it because it's so difficult to repeat in order to determine what is normal or expected. I merely picked that one from the list as a research focal point. Can you try again to send links to related compelling evidence?
You are with the bad guys. You are one of the bad guys. You are a BAAAAAD MAAAAAN. Trying to convince people the government's thin conspiracy story of 19 hijackers is real.
hilarious, another Einstein declaring you guys at BIM are connected to the government. As many times as I have seen this stupidity, it always seems to make me laugh.
Your comment of asking for evidence of 50.1% is on this same page. Your game is to say -oh beast can't prove the "most" part of the statement, therefore all is wrong.- Great, you are correct I didn't count the witnesses and I never will. So therefore all is right with the world, la la la. Prez Bush is the best prez we ever had. la la la. The towers are still standing and everyone is innocent. You win.
I didn't ask beastshawnee for that evidence until she slammed me with the dilemma of either being with the bad guys (among thee most teacherous evil group of our time) or moronically and almost actively ignorant. And I'm not saying prove this one thing or everything she says is wrong. Let's start somewhere. Just help me understand how you can stand by the claim that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections.
Wow, how do you go about your day with such delusions? Are the black helicopters following you? Do the backs of all the street signs contain hidden maps for the NWO troops? Is the government eliminating aluminum foil so you can't make your secret mind protection pyramid hat?
How much is your prozac and zoloft costing me each month?
Shill, show me evidence of the government's real evidence against Osama Bin laden. Because even the FBI doesn't have that. Show me evidence of a fiberglass nose cone that can break through steel and concrete. And then talk to the guys that researched for september clues and the USATODAY videos.
SHOW ME A REAL INVESTIGATION where shills don't play games like you are.
beastshawnee, in my video I tried only to express my opinion and focus specifically on one video that came to our attention. I wasn't rude or disrespectful either in the video or in response to comments. I offered my opinion of your points that were unrelated to this video and then asked you to followup on a single such point, even after your insults. And now, apparently one of the few things that can convince you is for me, John Q. Public, to waltz into FBI HQ and return with "real" evidence?
okay, my bad. But I did respond, and what I got from you was typical shill behavior -demanding evidence on every single little point as if 1)There were no evidence. 2)this comment board is the place for the multitudes of evidence that exists. 3)you weren't already aware of the evidence. 4)you weren't willing to look at the evidence yourself. 5) the evidence isn't the evidence ie. the nosecone isn't a nosecone. That missile hole is not a missile hole.
I beg to differ. Until you said I might be working for the bad guys, I never asked for evidence from you at all. I am aware of the evidence for each point you raised. I HAVE looked at the evidence. That's why I decided to start out by focusing on ONE of your points so that we can see where it goes before straying back into the pool. Can we do that? What is the best evidence you've seen that supports the claim that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections?
"Shill"??? Because he doesn't buy into your claims of conspiracy? You are a dick sack.
"governments real evidence"??? When was the last time you were able to walk into the local DA's office and have them hand you the case file? Name one time you have EVER been able to do so.
"fiberglass nose cone"... Show me a photo of the nose cone intact and on the ground. You and the other dick sacks claim the nose cone is seen exiting the building but you ar GUESSING that the object is the nose cone.
Listen joe, there's really no need for name calling. "Shill" is an insult by beastshawnee that relates to his opinion of my opinion to the topic at hand. It's a bit unsophisticated and emotional and showing a lack of objectivity, similar to someone calling him a "CT nut". But, "dick sack" is just plain juvenile.
"dick sack" and scrotum filled with useless dicks. It has no male or female significance. A useless sack of dicks is simply useless, nothing more. So yep, it fits.
Wow you do attempt to explain everything away by pulling a thin cover over large holes. You are either working for the bad guys or you fall in this category:
There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see.
I could readdress each point successfully but I won't. It would be pointless with you. Other people interested in finding the real answers to this impossible story can start by watching September Clues. Search for USATODAY fake tv 9/11. No way the media's not involved. INVESTIGATE.
OK beastshawnee, let's you and me focus on one of these "large holes":
Show me evidence that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections. At least 50.1% of ALL witnesses EVER shown on ANY TV broacast.
And do you attempt to exclude media involvement when in some videos the smoke is pitch black and another view same time the smoke is wispy and light gray? And what about the growth of the hole for the wingtip explosion. One minute it's small and then it gets larger in some views. There is extra fire painted in in others. I'm not saying most of the reporters had a clue what was going on. Of course they didn't. But media was definitely involved before, during and continuing after 9/11. COVER-UP!
... my real names hunter
jennifer5271 1 week ago
hes a nerd XD
jennifer5271 1 week ago
Time to wake up. I'm developing free energy weaponry to combat th NWO. They can't fuck with me. They can't make me believe theire lies. I'll kill those pussies
pmcgraw13 8 months ago
@pmcgraw13 Make sure you get the development of your weapon on video and post it to YouTube so that we can make fun of... er, I mean, analyze and assist in the development of it.
JJLatBIM 8 months ago
@JJLatBIM Haha.. That was hilarious. Stupid conspiracies..
GZxModzz 7 months ago
are then saying that this wasnt a conspiracy at all? or are you saying that the media wasnt involved in the conspiracy?
scotfreak 11 months ago
@scotfreak This video by itself is a rebuttal against media involvement based on the appearance that objects shifted. Personally, I don't believe in any of the MIHOP or LIHOP theories, and without such conspiracies there is no need for media involvement in them.
JJLatBIM 11 months ago
@JJLatBIM oh thanks for clearing that up. personally i believe the MIHOP theory, but thats another debate
scotfreak 11 months ago
@scotfreak i truly hope a plane crashes into your home while you're there
notchjohnson1 10 months ago
@notchjohnson1 what? what the hell is wrong with you. why would ever even joke about something like that. you really wish that a plane filled with people crashes. youre sick. my mom is a flight attendant so saying shit like that gets me really pissed off
scotfreak 10 months ago
@scotfreak no i hope an unmanned aircraft with 10,000 tons of fuel crashes into your home and burns for days
notchjohnson1 10 months ago
@notchjohnson1 now why would you want that? i live in an apartment building, lots of families would die. you're sick man. i also dont know why you're saying this so im assuming you're a crazy person. might wanna... you know, get tested or somethin, you know? i also cant believe that you truly hope for that, its a tad bit etreme.
scotfreak 10 months ago
@scotfreak Well, why would anyone even hate on you?
Why would someone want a plane to crash into your home?
icyshadow0 3 months ago
@icyshadow0 because hes a sick man thats why
scotfreak 3 months ago
@scotfreak You have done nothing wrong anyway. :-\
icyshadow0 3 months ago
@icyshadow0 just spreading the truth lol
scotfreak 3 months ago
The fact that you can recreate all of these perspectives digitally, only proves how they were digitally presented to us.. your last few statements were true, but does not rule out any foul play..
BrutalMind1984 11 months ago
@BrutalMind1984 You exhibit a tendency toward paranoid delusion. In your mind, if the ability to create a counterfeit dollar bill exists then ALL dollar bills must be counterfeit. That's a sign that you may have a mental health problem.
JJLatBIM 11 months ago
@JJLatBIM Haha, good point, I am f"ed in the head so I'm sure that has something to do with my logic. It's just hard to ignore all of the strange material discovered throughout the years..
BrutalMind1984 11 months ago
@BrutalMind1984 Admitting you may have a problem is the first step towards recovery. There is a metric buttload of strange things from 9/11, but only because we have no experience telling us what was expected from such an enormous and horrible event. Good luck.
JJLatBIM 11 months ago
SHAME ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!
xxxNiceLifexxx 1 year ago
@xxxNiceLifexxx Do you mean that me and my family should be ashamed? Why?
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
My Govts all about "for the people." Lmao. Perhaps you should stick to debunking paranormal activities, 911's not your thing. Cheers!
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo I don't believe in the paranormal, so at BIM, I cover the "conspiracy theory" beat, which includes occasionally debunking such things. The psychology of CT believers more interesting than the psychology of paranormal believers. CT believers have more of a tendency to retreat with a redirection, like during a debate about parallax shift, CT believers bring up things like "Northwoods", opinion poles, bomb sniffing dogs, etc, etc, etc, and anything else to avoid the subject.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
Look. There's just to many reasons not to believe that the govt wasn't some how, one way or another involved in this. Northwoods is just one of many. Perfect example of, exactly what the powers that be are capable of and what they're actually willing to do.. Do you honestly believe there mind set has changed much since then? You need only to open your eyes. But then you have the answer to all of us right? The people that question the official story are all crazy! My Govts all about "for the pe
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo Conceiving an idea does not imply that one has the capability OR the willingness to complete it. You have to a huge illogical leap to think that just because a few guys high up in the military structure conceived of a false flag operation that every attack against us must be a false flag.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
@JJLatBIM Do yourself a favor, you and everyone else reading this. if you havnt already heard of it, google "operation northwoods"
Maybe that'll wake SOME of you up.
I'm done, cheers
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo Please... not that tired old "Operation Northwoods" retreat. And retreat, you should. You reference ancient video based on misunderstood parallax shifts that a 5 year old can explain, you make unsubstantiated claims about growing popular support of 9/11 conspiracy theories, and you use innuendo about obscure false flag plans and unrelated leaked classified documents. It certainly helps me place you on the mental health spectrum.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
But seeing you mention the scale and scope of 911. Do you really believe a bunch of camel jockeys pulled that off all by themselves? Really? Tim Osman? Lmao. My original intent here was trying to say your wasting your time. Try as they might, No one can actually prove anything one way or another. Not even you!
And so the debate continues'
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo I do believe that in 2001, 4 small teams of men could have taken control of 4 passenger airliners and crashed 3 of them into almost any targets they desired. To fake just THAT and keep the fake a secret would have been near impossible. The manner of that fakery and the faking of the aftermath where the truly mentally ill come to light. Belief that holograms, underbelly missiles, controlled demolition, or space weapons were involved are sure signs of mental illness.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
There are no up to date numbers! It was a rhetorical question to see where you would go with it. like I said, unless you use Alex jones or others like him to rely on. Best I can do is this,
I think for every video like yours on YouTube there are at least 2 or 3 debating it. And if you read the comments of these videos I'd have to say there's more "delusional" people then not delusional. Or maybe sane people just don't go on YouTube, to watch this stuff, I don't know
But seeing you mention the
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo Oh, so when you said, "you and your posse are losing ground", you were expressing your personal feeling in the form of a factual claim. OK. I would guess that for every video like mine, there are hundreds by people who believe the conspiracy theories. The vast majority of the people who even look for such videos are believers and those who debate are even stronger believers. Most sane people are not debating 9/11 at all, much less a conspiracy theory.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
Wikileaks is pretty good proof of how arrogant they actually are. Hell maybe one of the 250000 cables will have something to do with 911. That is if they all get released.
Good luck in your indevour!
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo By the way, I am not so naive that I think the U.S. govt is incapable of contemplating a false flag operation and creating plans for such an operation. There is a difference between healthy distrust and paranoid delusion. The scale, scope, and visibility of the events of 9/11 as a false flag operation put it in the paranoid delusion side of spectrum with "alien bases on the moon".
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
That's funny, Where exactly do you get your numbers from every week? I havnt seen any new numbers from a reliable source since about 2007, "51% of americans want congress to probe bush/cheney regarding 9/11 attacks; over 30% seek immediate impeachment" unless of course Alex jones is your source. Mostly any new numbers come from CT sites. None the less, i don't think people should be so naive and think the us govt. isn't capable of doing something like this. Wikileaks is pretty good proof of ho
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo I don't just report the numbers of other researchers, I do my own research and report MY research every week. But you said I and my posse are losing ground and that I should check the recent numbers that demonstrate this. That implies you're aware of numbers lately that contradict my position. So I'll ask again, what numbers do you have?
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
Yeah, no I stole the video, just figured it fit right into this dumb ass debate that people like you keep pushing. So what's the point? You gonna change peoples minds 1 at a time? Lmao I highly doubt it, maybe when internet2 gets pushed through that'll finally have the affect you so desperately are trying to achieve. But until then, you and your posse are loosing ground. Checked out the numbers lately?
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo The point of the video is to present objective facts that refute the claims of the conspiracy theory believers and the HOPE is that someone teetering on edge of the delusion will see this and similar videos and pull themselves back from the abyss.
By the way, I check and report on the numbers every week. What numbers do you have that indicate more people are sinking into mental illness and believing the conspiracy theories?
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
Watch 911 amateur part 1 and all the other parts for that matter
ijuststoledurvideo 1 year ago
@ijuststoledurvideo Based on your username and obsolete video you've chosen, is it safe to assume that you are not the author of that video? That video is a pretty good demonstration of parallax shift. The video seems to be aware of the parallax phenomenon, and yet the author's paranoid delusion forces him to ignore what he KNOWS in favor of what he WANTS to believe. It is sad, isn't it?
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
those sequences are not the same at all dude...
djditii 1 year ago
@djditii You'll have to give me a little more detail in order to explain it. Give me time stamps where you think I've made a mistake and explain why you think I'm mistaken.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
whats so contrivertial about th FOX5 view?
GamingsecretsTV 1 year ago
@GamingsecretsTV I think the controversy was because people think they should be able to see landmarks in Brooklyn and at least one of the bridges, but the only background is haze. They don't seem to realize that the camera is looking above the horizon into infinity.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
with my respect to your explaination;but do you by yourself beleive in that.It was inside job please see Richplanet 911 3D Analysis Part 1 & 2 ;if you are not a CIA agent
shearwano 1 year ago
@shearwano I watched Richplanet 911 3D Analysis Part 1 and 2 and found nothing at all new. Years ago, others have concluded that the impacts were not from airliners and all of the video and images ever presented were manipulated to disguise the actual delivery device. Others have done 3D modeling. Richard D. Hall is deluded; 1st about there being an R/C anti-gravity drone involved, and 2nd about presenting anything remotely new v=eFIGeINof0Y.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
At the time of the 1st attack at 8.46.26 the sun was at precisely 23degrees 57.699' altitude above the visible horizon in manhattan. At the time of the second attack the sun was at 26 degrees 53.525' altitude. provide correct information or dont bother.
the sun set at 19:11:13 that day...
SUNIVAG 1 year ago
@SUNIVAG I realize the brains of Truthers have a defect that places extreme importance on precision, so this video is aimed at those people who haven't gone completely into the Truther delusion. When I said "about 27 degrees" normal people assumed I meant somewhere between 26.5 and 27.5. Apparently for you, 26.892 is not close enough to be called "about 27". I'll try keep that in mind.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
Oh well. There's either two sides, and no in-between. Those who believe terrorists or whoever hit the buildings, and then those who believe "conspiracies" like myself. I'm not gonna argue, seeing as how you can't convince everyone and everything that needed to be said already has, I'm gonna try and respect your belief, like I would a religion. That doesn't mean we can't TRY to open your eyes though [although not everyone has to shout at each other]
InnocentzRaptor 1 year ago
@InnocentzRaptor There are many "sides". Even within the group of people who believe the muslim terrorist explanation, there are numerous nuances. My hope is that I catch a few otherwise non-nutty people teetering on the edge of the "Truther" delusion and show them a light of sanity. The facts of 9/11 are not a matter of faith like religion where science and logic break down.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
@JJLatBIM
You have incredible patience with these fuckheads. So much for a reasoned explanation, with visual aids. You will never convince these guys and the harder you try the further they drift into this weird world. But thanks for trying.
no10standard 1 year ago
how did u put the wtc on google in 3d i press 3d buildings but they dont come up
fishyboy08 1 year ago
@fishyboy08, I created them myself just using the simple polygons built into Google Earth. The smoke in this version is also a simple polygon. Draw the shape, set the altitude, then extend it to the ground.
More recently, I've started using a World Trade Center model someone created with SketchUp. But for my purposes, the polygons are more than adequate and just as accurate.
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
@JJLatBIM ok thanks.
fishyboy08 1 year ago
@fishyboy08
also watch
THEORY OF GHOSTPLANE
911 TABOO
CONTINUOUS PIECES 911
JOHN LEAR 911
911 PASSENGERS FICTITIOUS
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
You people are fucking morons. Show some damn respect for the dead and shut up.
90joey901 1 year ago
@90joey901, it would helpful to know to whom you are referring with "you people". Do you mean people like me who show our respect for the dead by opposing conspiracy theory nuts? Or do you mean the conspiracy theory nuts?
JJLatBIM 1 year ago
@90joey901
dude, fact is NO planes were used
LifeRegenRevolution 1 year ago
You are joking, right??? This is a response to SeptClues part 7? Why was the Empire State Building jumping from the left side of the camera to the right side with different Networks, when the background and all other buildings were IDENTICAL. Zoom arguments will not work here. Show me on Google Earth how this is possible. I don't believe the lengths you people are going to, to discredit the most obvious ecidence yet.
ProtectAus 2 years ago
FUCK I WAS NOT PAYING ATENTION
anthony21266 2 years ago
...to your caps lock? or to your spell checker?
JJLatBIM 2 years ago 3
my bad finger slip
anthony21266 2 years ago
WTF is the point of this fuckin video!
BigJoeyfromBoston 2 years ago
As I state in the video, the video shows that the camera angles are easily explained and not unusual in any way. The camera angles do not support any fantastical conspiracy theory.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
usa gov did the 9/11
violetbloodtimisoara 2 years ago 3
Ignoring the ultimate conclusion of an inside job, do you think this video analysis was accurate in explaining how suspicious video is a simple matter of camera perspective and not fake video? If not, do you hold the opinion that every single video recorded that day was faked by the conspirators?
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
The event is realed. it happend. lol..
It's just that it was made by usa gov.
They killed their own people for oil.
Was it worth it? How do you enjoy the cheap oil?
violetbloodtimisoara 2 years ago
Once again, try to forget that it was an inside job and focus on the statement made by this video. Of the suspicious camera angles shown in this video, do you think I've correctly shown that those camera angles are easily explained and not at all suspicious?
If I thought it was an inside job and it was done to get cheap oil, I certainly would agree that it was a stupid plan. Obviously I don't hate Bush enough for it to cause such brain damage.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
@violetbloodtimisoara i think yes
47crazed 1 year ago
No "conspiracy" of "news agencies" necessary, because they are the same as defense contractors and Pentagon. A simple investigation will reveal that to anyone. Media is a propaganda outlet & nothing more. This vid is smoke and mirrors for shots that were not possible and just plain don't look right.
lucyduchez 2 years ago
Yes, the media regurgitates what they're told and they run stories based on available video, but they are not an arm of the government. There are simply too many loose ends for the media to be directly involved, which would be needed to feed faked live video on every single video feed. It's ridiculous to devote more than 2 minutes of thought to the idea (although I have).
My use of Google Earth demonstrates a lack of anything extraordinary about the camera positions in the videos reviewed.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
wrong about the "loose ends"- there are a few corporrations who run everything. When people leave the Pentagon they go to work for them. Google schmoogle, I have eyes and they tell me these are fake.
lucyduchez 2 years ago
Wow! I have 2 very important questions for you: You honestly think that every single newspaper, magazine, radio station, TV station, and television and cable network is owned by a large corporation controlled by the government? AND you think that every single reporter, news producer, camera man, photographer, and news anchor was and remains in on the conspiracy?
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
second one :D
Quertyu 2 years ago
Oh come on! Did you not notice Coppola style of locked down cameras and dramatic lighting I used? And the complete rip-off of Coppola's technique of jumping back and forth to different times in the life of the main character?
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
can be :p
Quertyu 2 years ago
god you're dumb. There are no separate new agencies, that is what the word network means. The same footage is shown everywhere.
lucyduchez 2 years ago
There are small periodical and radio stations that are privately owned and not owned by any large network or corporation. There were numerous videos and photos taken by individuals and reporters with honest and honorable intentions and not all of it has been bought and concealed by the government.
BTW, a "network" does not imply a single controlling entity. TV news sources certainly do SHARE video, but they are not compelled to use a single approved feed.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
Even then..
And are all your arguments proofs that 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy? :D
I'm not dumb because I know at least that 9/11 was done by the US government, even if the conspiracy theories are doubtful.
Quertyu 2 years ago
I'm presenting evidence. I think my analysis shows that the evidence I analyzed is perfectly explainable without an elaborate fake, and the application of Occam's razor suggests that the videos were not faked and all media outlets manipulated.
If you say the videos are fake, your task of proving the fake is much more difficult than my task of proving them real.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
you just can't explain it, we will never know the truth :-s
Quertyu 2 years ago
But we CAN and DO know that the 9/11 Commission, NIST explanation aligns best with what we saw on TV, pictures, or witnessed in person. And the fantasy concoctions of people like Alex Jones are impossible in the extreme.
Truth is a measure of conformity to facts and reality, and as such is subjective and therefore is different for each person.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
this video is a ...
Quertyu 2 years ago
...work of pure genius?
...piece of shit?
...laugh riot?
...sad commentary on truthers?
...good use of Google Earth?
...good example of amateur video making?
...total rip-off of The Godfather?
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
u slow
Marcos11754 2 years ago
u glow
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
whatever.
Marcos11754 2 years ago
That worked perfectly. The world's first (afaik) interactive poetry:
"u slow
u glow
whatever"
It may be a little abstract and esoteric, but I think it really works.
Thank you for starting that.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
yea
Marcos11754 2 years ago
this proves nothing.. Devin Clark faked the footage from his office view..its a fact!
scottishcreamthe1st 2 years ago
This video wasn't meant to prove anything. I think it provides plausible answers to the questions posed about the videos featured in this video. Those questions boil down to: "If it wasn't faked, why does the smoke, shadow, brightness, background, foreground, etc not line up between video A and video B?" This video says, all those things DO line up and don't support TV fakery.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
do you know who Devin Clark is?
do you know who michael Hezarkhani is?
do you know Carmen Taylor is?
scottishcreamthe1st 2 years ago
I am very familiar with Clark's, Hezarkhani's, and Taylor's individual contributions to the pile of documentation of that day. Do you find something fishy about any of their videos or pictures?
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
This is a brilliant video, thank you for taking the time to do this :-)
hairy0pothead 2 years ago
Can you do the Verazzano Bridge analysis as well...why the hell was it so close and why was it moving?
taimurdar 2 years ago 5
I can do such an analysis. Which youtube video best portrays the movement that you described? I've looked at hundreds of videos that juxtapose videos shot from different angles and focal lengths, and not just involving 9/11. I have not seen such a 9/11 video yet that I can't explain.
By the way, is it safe to assume that you accept the analysis done in this video as accurate?
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
Here is a clip about the bridge sequence. I was able to determine that the History Channel used their Poetic License to snip out about 41 seconds of footage.
I'd be interested in your analysis, please. Especially if you can explain how the bridge looks 'too large' compared to the WTC.
Thanks!
YougeneDebs 2 years ago
Thanks, YougeneDebs, but you didn't provide a link any way to find the clip you mention. Is it on YouTube?
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
My bad; sorry. Heres the title and the link:
ABC Chopper 2: Hi res "moving bridge" with audio: kept at .. 5 miles from WTC
watch?v=Hqth2DBzb04
YougeneDebs 2 years ago
A good example of an optical illusion. A VERY long and changing zoom combined with horizontal movement along a curved path that is centered on a large stationary vertical object with another stationary horizontal object with prominent cable parabolas in the background. The illusion results from the fact that our brain assumes OUR view (from the camera) is stationary and therefor the movement we see must be the objects, not us. The cables even trick our brains into seeing vertical movement.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
Hi BIM, I have a few questions for you. I've watched all of your videos, visit your website, listen to the radio show and have been on the Queen Mary tours with Pat Wheelock. I have been following you guys for a couple of years now. You seem to have access to a lot of information that the average person can't gain access to. Do you guys work for or have connections with the government? If not, how is it that you have access to certain pieces of information others can't?
LisaKateLinus 2 years ago
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LisaKateLinus 2 years ago
To who ever at the BIM Team that reads the You Tube comments. You seem to be unwilling to answer my questions regarding your connection to the U.S. government. Could it be that the photos I have seen of you at one of the FBI offices tells a little more than you would like?
LisaKateLinus 2 years ago
Lisa, we are in no way connected to the government. As for how do we gain access to certain info, we have just been lucky so far.
BeyondInvestigation 2 years ago
you wana believe what your told on faith alone then good luck, you wana sit down pay attention learn something and make up your own mind based on logic & reasoning, search Zeitgeist 911
calzagheisthebest 2 years ago
I've watched Zeitgeist, thank you. It's not very compelling. But, the point of THIS video is only to see if simple camera perspective could explain why some of the buildings seemed to be in different positions from nearly the same camera position, and why Brooklyn and the bridges could not be seen in the background. Based on this simple analysis, camera angles easily explains such things. If anyone now uses such evidence to support a conspiracy theory, they have lost credibility.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
im sorry if my comment sounded like an attack on you i just watched zeitgeist and it totally changed my view on 9/11, but then again those type of videos are supposed to
calzagheisthebest 2 years ago
A group of aliens had hijacked the AA11 and UA175.
Then two UFOs morphed to the shape of AA11 and UA175 respectively.
The two fake AA11 and UA175 crashed to the Twins Towers. And the crew and passenger were sent to another earth with high cultivation to become alien's hostages.
is84041 2 years ago
JJLatBIM, I have a few things I can't figure out. Like, where did all of the dust come from?If there weren't any explosions, why was so much concrete turn into dust?
LisaKateLinus 2 years ago
was a rough estimate and was slightly off,. the camera views on 9.11 are 100 acurate. just the plane was inserted thats all. nothing wrong with anything else.
Dynamicdj 2 years ago
Aside from the fact that someone COULD create A convincing fake plane flying along the NYC skyline, there is nothing I've seen yet that suggests any of the numerous videos depict anything other than actual airliners actually flying into the towers. However, the point of this video is to show why simple perspective differences of the various cameras accounts for buildings apparently shifting.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
JJLatBIM, once again you guys go that one step farther to present the facts and that's what makes you guys stand out above the rest! ; )
LisaKateLinus 3 years ago
Thanks Lisa. We try our best to remain faithful to a systematic acquiring of knowledge and facts.
JJLatBIM 2 years ago
how you get the world trade center to be seen?
toropov01 3 years ago
I created those buildings and the smoke using the polygon shapes built into Google Earth. In future videos using GE, I'll use a simple cone shape created in SketchUp to portray the smoke instead of the polygon.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
3:04
NeanderthalUFO 3 years ago
Here's your answer, the missing money is from even before Clinton, and the first Bush. The missing money probably started within the Reagan era, but we'll never know now will we, since our current government blew up the building with the documents as well as blowing up the other buildings. All on 9/11, what a coincidence, or as my friend says a "coinky dink". INVESTIGATE 9/11. The 9/11 commission was a cover-up.
beastshawnee 3 years ago
I would guess that the losses have been building up since before Reagan. I think the losses are from bad book keeping, waste, and even some corruption. Though not corruption on the grand scale that conspiracy theorists believe.
But you didn't quite answer the question. Not where did all the money come from, but why was the Bush administration chosen to finally hide it? Why still in the Clinton budget, was it time to, once and for all, hide decades of theft?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
How much did they give you, JJLatBIM?
ZotDudot7 3 years ago
That information may or may not be part of a classified agreement.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
Ah, gotcha. Okay, I see. No more questions.
ZotDudot7 3 years ago
I knew you bastards were in on it all along!
joefarthole 3 years ago 2
You know as far as I'm concerned, if Clinton and Gore are involved, hang them too. I'm not saying they are not involved. Could be. This horrible group of people have been organized for a lonnnnng time, and they pull politicians into their circle as fast as they can. Politicians see the only way to get anywhere is through them, so they join up, knowing only the tip of the iceberg. Many are kept out of the loop altogether. Why don't you ask Cynthia McKinney if they let her play with the big boys?
beastshawnee 3 years ago
OK, so do you think the missing money had just grown too large to continue hiding in the way that had apparently been working just fine throughout the Clinton administration?
Cynthia McKinney is a small, angry, impulsive, and violent person and way out of her league to try playing with the big boys.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
You are small, angry, impulsive and violent and way out of your league to try playing with the big boys, too. So go to sleep. Leave the investigations to people who care about the world.
beastshawnee 3 years ago 2
Once again beastshawnee, I don't know where this hostility comes from. I wasn't insulting you. I just asked a logical question and expressed my opinion of former Representative McKinney, which is based partially on her assault of a police officer.
But now, it seems to me the only people you want investigating the events of 9/11 are people who buy into some conspiracy theory and join in the accusations against the Bush administration. That's not the same thing as "caring about the world".
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
You must believe everything you read from Big Brother. But thanks for looking up Cynthia McKinney, even the false stuff because from your earlier reply I could see you didn't even know who she was. Now if you'd just keep on educating yourself you might know what you're talking about once in a while.
beastshawnee 3 years ago 2
What is "Big Brother" hiding from me or lying to me about McKinney? And why did u think I knew nothing about her? Is it because I left out "paranoid delusional racist" from her list of attributes? I first caught wind of McKinney when her district was declared unconstitutional and then again when she railed against Gore.
And you still haven't answered the question: had the missing money grown too large to continue hiding in the way that had worked throughout the Clinton administration?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
What makes you assume that presidents of any sort are the ones stealing the money? Weird.
beastshawnee 3 years ago
I didn't say any Presidents were stealing the money. Your theory states that Rumsfeld was covering up the misappropriation of $2.3T. I'm saying that some of that money you say is being protected must have began being stolen during previous administrations, and if the SecDef is aware of the funds then Cohen is very likely to have known also. I refer to the President's name only in the name of the administration in office during the thefts. I ASKED if YOU thought Clinton/Gore/Cohen are involved.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
watch?v=zQTsiLX3XbA if you watch that video you can tell its REAL! the camrea is moving around properly like it should... This also shows the proper color and shadows that you would see on a very very sunny and CLEAR day!! you can see boats and other things because its not a FAKE VIDEO! You can also see no PLANE FLYING anywhere near the towers.. and hear the reportes witness NO PLANE AT all just an explosion.. This is real video those other still images u use were taken from fake videos.
rollonequick 3 years ago
zQTsiLX3XbA IS real? It shakes bcuz it's from an aircraft unlike most others. All cameras have numerous auto settings for how to deal with light and white balance making color meaningless. There is no difference in shadows, only the brightness of the north face of the towers, which is normal given the design and angle of the sun. And by the way, I see the plane at about 0:11 on the right enter from the top of the frame.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
I dont hate America I hate the way people ignore the simple truth.. Camera angles dont lie. shadows from the sun does not lie.. This video proves that all the live feeds were faked on 9/11 and im just sad that others dont see it.. thats all man so chill out with calling me names and grow up.
rollonequick 3 years ago
"Camera angles dont lie. shadows from the sun does not lie."
Correct. But how that information is interpretted by the human brain may not be congruent with factual reality. A video may not show you enough to deduce all the important facts. That doesn't make such video fake.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
Well my comment is back up now.. I either missed it last time I looked or somehow its been re posted... but anyway.. 2.3 Trillions dollars stolen from the pentagon as reported on 2/10/2001 could pay for anything, controlling the media paying off people to say whatever they want would be the easy part. 2.3 TRILLION goes along way.. Donald Rumsfield declared war on the Pentagon Bureaucrats on 2/10/2001 his exact words were 'matter of life and DEATH' we all know what happened the next day!!!
rollonequick 3 years ago
I mean 9/10/2001 and 9/11/2001 :-(
rollonequick 3 years ago
Was Rummy foolish, or was he just being brazen, to make such an obvious statement knowing the very next day he planned to kill so many people and destroy so much in broad daylight?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
The people who were investing the stolen/lost 2.3 trillions dollars were the target on 9/11/01 in the pentagon..
This area of the pentagon was also recently reinforced to allow for some chance of survival for these people.. If a terrorist from another country was flying a plane into the pentagon why not fly it directly in the front door, or anywhere else other then the area where people were investing the pentagon?
architectureweek . com/2001/1003/news_1-1.html
rollonequick 3 years ago
"If a terrorist from another country was flying a plane into the pentagon why not fly it directly in the front door[?]"
So because they didn't fly the plane into the most significant part (from a death and destruction or psychological impact perspective) of the building, you're saying that it suggests foreign terrorists are less likely than a massive government conspiracy?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
watch?v=C9uzpvRzzYQ to understand what I am talking about you may have to watch this video
rollonequick 3 years ago
Do I need to pick everything apart in that video? One easy target is at 1:26. The screen says, "supposing such a vantage point exists, how did NBC deploy a live camera unit up here in barely 6 minutes?"
That shot is obviously from the GE building and aligns perfectly with all the points in the other video. What's in the GE building? GE owns NBC and that building is where the NBC Today is filmed. How could NBC get a camera there so quick? Is that really a mystery in need of investigation?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
A well applied "dick sack smack"!!!
joefarthole 3 years ago
I would agree with you if NBC was the ones who took that video, NBC was given that video by a profesional Animator who worked in that building and decided to give them the video for free. Thats the OFFICIAL story behind that video.. NBC did not record from that location. The investigation on that video has already taken place.. :-)
rollonequick 3 years ago
rollonequick, I think you're confusing the CNN and NBC shots. It was one of the CNN shots that CT believers accuse of being the same as Devin Clark's. Which of course, the accusation has been shown to be without merit. Clark's video was from 1 Penn Plaza and CNN happens to lease the top couple floors of 5 Penn Plaza. They would have been only about 150 yards apart and nearly 3 miles from ground zero. That's less than a 2 degree difference in perspective. Nearly imperceptable.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
He admits he gave the video to CNN and HBO for free. He admits it was his footage that they used.. How can you say it has no merit..
watch?v=nMtVPHMGRRU
rollonequick 3 years ago
"Admits" is a loaded word that implies he tried to conceal the fact. In nMtVPHMGRRU, he says that he freely gave his footage to CNN and that CNN used it. He didn't say his footage was the live CNN feed. Remember, his view was less than 2 degrees off from CNN's and the same distance. It SHOULD look almost identical. There is no merit to a claim that CNN used Devin's camera for a live feed. It's not true and the truth is inconsequential.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
Rumsfeld was just being his clever criminal self. Here's how it happened: A.People want to know where the money went. B.They put off looking into it. C. They announce they are looking into it. D. They destroy all the evidence so it can never be looked into. This is an old technique. The American government owes 7 trillion dollars on land leases to Native American Indians, they ask for an inquiry, and boom, all the evidence gets destroyed. Soooorrrry, no evidence, no payout.
beastshawnee 3 years ago 2
beastshawnee, I think your motive theory stretches credibility and overreaches my ability to acquire evidence for or against the theory. It assumes that all the money was stolen for illicit purposes and there was some credible threat of exposure. As 9/11 was only 8 months into the Bush administration, the action must have been designed to at least partially coverup money missing from the Clinton administration. Is that your contention?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
It doesn't assume any such thing. I don't know who took the money or why they took the money. I know it's missing and I assume that whoever "mislaid" the money doesn't want people to know they have it.
beastshawnee 3 years ago
You can claim a lack of such assumptions, but the theory assumes alot. The theory must assume the money was taken illegally, else why cover it up? The entire FY2001 federal income was $2T so in order to hide the siphoning of $2.3T the theory must assume it was taken in chunks easily hidden over multiple years which started during the previous administration. Even if the ENTIRE Defense budget was stolen, it would have taken at least 8 years to get $2.3T. So, are Clinton/Gore/Cohen also involved?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
The shadows on the buildings are not correct in the news videos!! there should be DARK SHADOWS!! which there are at the forground buildings but then the background buildings have been some how LIT UP! as if the son is at 2 places.. They were using same tech as you just with greater detail and took the sun completly OUT! thank your for making this video because it proves the media did fool everyone who watched that day.. and please do not delete my comment again! people deserve to know the truth!
rollonequick 3 years ago
First, I never deleted any comments by you or anyone else.
Most importantly, the brightness of the tower faces varied more than other buildings because of the way the windows are inset in aluminum-clad slots. On 9/11 at 9:03 am, from ENE, the north face appears as bright as the east because you're actually seeing the east facet of the aluminum cladding. From NNE, the north face was only tangentially lit aluminum and unlit dark windows. Distance also exaggerates the effect.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
Shadows on the news vids... Yeah, cuz the media LOVES Bush, so they are in on it. Dumbass.
"and please do not delete my comment again!" Yeah the people at BIM wanted to delete YOUR comment, cuz they are in on it, right? Dumbass...
"people deserve to know the truth!" Truth? What you mean the bullshit you believe in and are trying to spread because you hate Bush and America? That's it, you're a dick sack!
joefarthole 3 years ago
I referred you to two sources easily available on youtube. Their being posted on youtube does not negate the research involved any more than your video being posted does. You can take your obssession with the "mostly" and cram it along with your shill covering what happened on 9/11. People are dead and you are obstructing justice.
giraffedancing 3 years ago
giraffedancing, I'm sorry, but I see only 2 comments from you for this video and neither contains reference to sources of any kind. Now, I didn't raise the issue that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections. I tried to avoid it because it's so difficult to repeat in order to determine what is normal or expected. I merely picked that one from the list as a research focal point. Can you try again to send links to related compelling evidence?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
You are with the bad guys. You are one of the bad guys. You are a BAAAAAD MAAAAAN. Trying to convince people the government's thin conspiracy story of 19 hijackers is real.
beastshawnee 3 years ago
Does that mean you're unwilling to help me understand how you concluded that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
hilarious, another Einstein declaring you guys at BIM are connected to the government. As many times as I have seen this stupidity, it always seems to make me laugh.
joefarthole 3 years ago
Your comment of asking for evidence of 50.1% is on this same page. Your game is to say -oh beast can't prove the "most" part of the statement, therefore all is wrong.- Great, you are correct I didn't count the witnesses and I never will. So therefore all is right with the world, la la la. Prez Bush is the best prez we ever had. la la la. The towers are still standing and everyone is innocent. You win.
Or else you are a stinking shill. la la la.
giraffedancing 3 years ago 2
I didn't ask beastshawnee for that evidence until she slammed me with the dilemma of either being with the bad guys (among thee most teacherous evil group of our time) or moronically and almost actively ignorant. And I'm not saying prove this one thing or everything she says is wrong. Let's start somewhere. Just help me understand how you can stand by the claim that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
Wow, how do you go about your day with such delusions? Are the black helicopters following you? Do the backs of all the street signs contain hidden maps for the NWO troops? Is the government eliminating aluminum foil so you can't make your secret mind protection pyramid hat?
How much is your prozac and zoloft costing me each month?
joefarthole 3 years ago
Shill, show me evidence of the government's real evidence against Osama Bin laden. Because even the FBI doesn't have that. Show me evidence of a fiberglass nose cone that can break through steel and concrete. And then talk to the guys that researched for september clues and the USATODAY videos.
SHOW ME A REAL INVESTIGATION where shills don't play games like you are.
beastshawnee 3 years ago
beastshawnee, in my video I tried only to express my opinion and focus specifically on one video that came to our attention. I wasn't rude or disrespectful either in the video or in response to comments. I offered my opinion of your points that were unrelated to this video and then asked you to followup on a single such point, even after your insults. And now, apparently one of the few things that can convince you is for me, John Q. Public, to waltz into FBI HQ and return with "real" evidence?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
okay, my bad. But I did respond, and what I got from you was typical shill behavior -demanding evidence on every single little point as if 1)There were no evidence. 2)this comment board is the place for the multitudes of evidence that exists. 3)you weren't already aware of the evidence. 4)you weren't willing to look at the evidence yourself. 5) the evidence isn't the evidence ie. the nosecone isn't a nosecone. That missile hole is not a missile hole.
beastshawnee 3 years ago
I beg to differ. Until you said I might be working for the bad guys, I never asked for evidence from you at all. I am aware of the evidence for each point you raised. I HAVE looked at the evidence. That's why I decided to start out by focusing on ONE of your points so that we can see where it goes before straying back into the pool. Can we do that? What is the best evidence you've seen that supports the claim that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections?
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
"Shill"??? Because he doesn't buy into your claims of conspiracy? You are a dick sack.
"governments real evidence"??? When was the last time you were able to walk into the local DA's office and have them hand you the case file? Name one time you have EVER been able to do so.
"fiberglass nose cone"... Show me a photo of the nose cone intact and on the ground. You and the other dick sacks claim the nose cone is seen exiting the building but you ar GUESSING that the object is the nose cone.
joefarthole 3 years ago
Listen joe, there's really no need for name calling. "Shill" is an insult by beastshawnee that relates to his opinion of my opinion to the topic at hand. It's a bit unsophisticated and emotional and showing a lack of objectivity, similar to someone calling him a "CT nut". But, "dick sack" is just plain juvenile.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
BUT, you have to admit, it fits.
joefarthole 3 years ago
Your name fits you too, I'm sure. And Dick sack might fit a guy, but I'm a woman you bozo.
beastshawnee 3 years ago
"dick sack" and scrotum filled with useless dicks. It has no male or female significance. A useless sack of dicks is simply useless, nothing more. So yep, it fits.
joefarthole 3 years ago
Wow you do attempt to explain everything away by pulling a thin cover over large holes. You are either working for the bad guys or you fall in this category:
There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see.
I could readdress each point successfully but I won't. It would be pointless with you. Other people interested in finding the real answers to this impossible story can start by watching September Clues. Search for USATODAY fake tv 9/11. No way the media's not involved. INVESTIGATE.
beastshawnee 3 years ago
OK beastshawnee, let's you and me focus on one of these "large holes":
Show me evidence that witnesses shown on TV were "mostly" media producers or connections. At least 50.1% of ALL witnesses EVER shown on ANY TV broacast.
JJLatBIM 3 years ago
And do you attempt to exclude media involvement when in some videos the smoke is pitch black and another view same time the smoke is wispy and light gray? And what about the growth of the hole for the wingtip explosion. One minute it's small and then it gets larger in some views. There is extra fire painted in in others. I'm not saying most of the reporters had a clue what was going on. Of course they didn't. But media was definitely involved before, during and continuing after 9/11. COVER-UP!
beastshawnee 3 years ago